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Old 12-01-2004, 12:04 PM   #91
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WOW drop set circuits are gonna be nuts...I want to attempt some normal circuits I've been following in cowpimps journal. They look fun.

I've been weight training for 2 years or so now and the year before that just some cardio and rec sports. Last year I had to take alot of time off from overtraining. I was working out with a guy who wasn't natural and his volume was crazy. I was hitting the weights like 6 days a week and it was nuts LOL. Really fried me out.

Nuts, but a sure way to get the weights overwith sooner. I may start snooping around the journals to get some more ideas. You can never have too many w/o's

That's cool. Most people don't stick with it. Good intentions, but the drive dies in some. I bet you're proud of yourself. I know I am

6 days a weeks/high intensity is crazy. Even I wouldn't do that....but guys are dif though and I don't know anything about "juice,etc..." Guess you really have to "hit it" when you're not natural.

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Old 12-01-2004, 11:20 PM   #92
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Nuts, but a sure way to get the weights overwith sooner. I may start snooping around the journals to get some more ideas. You can never have too many w/o's

That's cool. Most people don't stick with it. Good intentions, but the drive dies in some. I bet you're proud of yourself. I know I am

6 days a weeks/high intensity is crazy. Even I wouldn't do that....but guys are dif though and I don't know anything about "juice,etc..." Guess you really have to "hit it" when you're not natural.

But you're doing much better, eh?
I always like have multiple w/o's on hand. I use to have maybe 15 or 20 different ones but lost em all once my comp died!!! Kinda sucked so now I don't have anything and will never dig those all up again.

Yea I'm glad I stuck with it and I owe that to my cousin. He made it fun for me for a long time so I just loved it from day 1. He got me hooked and now I have no intentions of purposly stopping weight training. As for progress...I have made soso gains...they could be better if conditions were better but the cards I was weren't to great.

Yea when you juice your ability to recover is so much faster then someone thats natural so your volume is like 2-3 times as much just to really rip the muscles up. B/c of the juice you don't overtrain and kill yourself...b/c you heal so much faster. So I was destroying my muscles without giving them enough time to heal b/c I was natural.

I wish I were doing better. It seems I have been getting hurt alot lately. All in the legs! I got a new job maybe 2 months ago or so...Valet Parking. I never use to run then I got the job and went straight into running like a mad man and I am just destroying my lower body. First I screwed up my left MCL now its my left hip flexor/groin. I am just always in pain and can't fix it. I think it has to do with it being so cold out the muscles never stay warm so I'm always running with cold stiff legs. I am not doing legs for a while now just to try and heal up. I will also be putting in like 50 hours a week the month of december so it will be hectic plus full time school and volunteer fireman!



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I have a question though...its not always possible for me to eat real food so I was wondering if a tri-o-plex would be ok for the next few weeks? It gets crazy at work and shakes just get me so sick sometimes. I almost hurled yesterday after I drank one at work...just killed me! So I know the tri-o-plex's are pretty natural and whole grain so I figured for now they may be OK for an emergency and the macros are pretty close to my needs. What do ya think?
As long as your cals add up right that should be ok



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I have a question though...its not always possible for me to eat real food so I was wondering if a tri-o-plex would be ok for the next few weeks? It gets crazy at work and shakes just get me so sick sometimes. I almost hurled yesterday after I drank one at work...just killed me! So I know the tri-o-plex's are pretty natural and whole grain so I figured for now they may be OK for an emergency and the macros are pretty close to my needs. What do ya think?
I eat one every day, which I save for a time when a regular meal would be most inconvenient. Their primary source of carbs is oats, and the sugar is mostly fructose, which is low GI.



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I eat one every day, which I save for a time when a regular meal would be most inconvenient. Their primary source of carbs is oats, and the sugar is mostly fructose, which is low GI.
Yea thats why I thought it would be OK. Everyone always says bars are horrible and crap though. I don't see anything wrong with chef jay's bars heh.

I have been looking into my diet a little more now with overall cals. In the past I would just go by portions and everything was scientific to the ounces and such of all my foods. But I never payed attention to the overall cal intake and I feel this is what hindered me from getting below my 9%BF last year. I am going to be really focusing on my overall cal intake this time and see if I can shed some pounds faster now. It took me 5 months to lose 10-12 lbs last year and so far I'm down to like 3 or so lbs in the month of november. I know progress will be slow from here on out but with cardio kicking up soon--another month--I think I could drop another 5 or so by Febuary.



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Old 12-02-2004, 01:40 PM   #96
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I always like have multiple w/o's on hand. I use to have maybe 15 or 20 different ones but lost em all once my comp died!!! Kinda sucked so now I don't have anything and will never dig those all up again.
I've been thinking about setting up multiple w/o's to have on hand. Hmm, next time you log, try saving them onto disk. That def. suck though

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Yea I'm glad I stuck with it and I owe that to my cousin. He made it fun for me for a long time so I just loved it from day 1. He got me hooked and now I have no intentions of purposly stopping weight training. As for progress...I have made soso gains...they could be better if conditions were better but the cards I was weren't to great.
I bet your cousin would be proud to know that. That's why I love my trainer. He and I make w/o's fun. I try to do the same with my clients. Keep going DB and DON'T look back

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Yea when you juice your ability to recover is so much faster then someone thats natural so your volume is like 2-3 times as much just to really rip the muscles up. B/c of the juice you don't overtrain and kill yourself...b/c you heal so much faster. So I was destroying my muscles without giving them enough time to heal b/c I was natural.
That's what I've heard., yet never experienced. I wonder why your w/o partner didn't tell you this before hand?

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I wish I were doing better. It seems I have been getting hurt alot lately. All in the legs! I got a new job maybe 2 months ago or so...Valet Parking. I never use to run then I got the job and went straight into running like a mad man and I am just destroying my lower body. First I screwed up my left MCL now its my left hip flexor/groin. I am just always in pain and can't fix it. I think it has to do with it being so cold out the muscles never stay warm so I'm always running with cold stiff legs. I am not doing legs for a while now just to try and heal up. I will also be putting in like 50 hours a week the month of december so it will be hectic plus full time school and volunteer fireman!
Sound hectic but you do you really have to run? Are you taking glutamine, vitamins, etc...?

Hey, the fireman deal sounds FUNNNNNNNN. When do you start that?



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I've been thinking about setting up multiple w/o's to have on hand. Hmm, next time you log, try saving them onto disk. That def. suck though?
Yea I should have done that...wasn't thinking at the time. Now I'm to busy to surf the web as much as I'd like but eventually I'll get all my goodies back

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I bet your cousin would be proud to know that. That's why I love my trainer. He and I make w/o's fun. I try to do the same with my clients. Keep going DB and DON'T look back?
Yea my cousin is proud of me...he always brags how I was his little prodigy and how he has transformed me. I should carry my before pictures around for him to show people to LOL. I still workout with him after 2 years now so its been really great. We go on and off but been consistent for months now. I love working out with him.


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That's what I've heard., yet never experienced. I wonder why your w/o partner didn't tell you this before hand??
He told me but as a young kid I tried to keep up and didn't know about juice at the time. I was foolish and just did everything he did thinking eh steroids don't help that much. Boy was I wrong LOL. As he progressed I degressed and got sick....but in the end I got the last laugh. Me and him are equal now b/c he got so many injuries he had to take off of training for so long and lost most of his mass. Hahahahaha

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Sound hectic but you do you really have to run? Are you taking glutamine, vitamins, etc...? ?
Yes I have to run if I want to make money and keep my job. The longer people wait the less tips I make and some of the places I have to get cars are close to 2 blocks away so I really need to run in order to make decent timing. As for Vit's no I don't take any. I have some left over but my budget got really tight so its tuff for me to keep up with em. I guess I could try and start taking some again. Would that really help alot?

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Hey, the fireman deal sounds FUNNNNNNNN. When do you start that?
I have been a volunteer fireman for over a year now and its really awsome. In may or april I am trying to take the test in order to become a paid fireman. Thats my ultimate goal in life so if I could get hired I would be so damn happy.



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I eat one every day, which I save for a time when a regular meal would be most inconvenient. Their primary source of carbs is oats, and the sugar is mostly fructose, which is low GI.
I'm glad CP answered this better for you.... we don't have Trio bars here so i didn't know what was in them...



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I'm glad CP answered this better for you.... we don't have Trio bars here so i didn't know what was in them...
O man your missing out...best bar I've had so far!! I would ship some over but then you'd get hooked and I'd be shipping em over all the time LOL. Your better off living through our words.



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Rep Range Back 12-02-04

Sorry I meant to post this earlier but I had to run to work. I was schedualed to do legs but they are really sore from work and just overall my joints are hurting so I am taking another week or so off from them. I can't afford to keep getting injured its ruining my life and other workouts.

DB Row
60'sx8
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70'sx6

WG Cable Row
150x8
150x10

Stiff Arm Pulldown
2 sets @ 100x10

CG Chin

spotx12
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***Spotter really just hold my ankles and doesn't help me just sort of takes a few pounds off almost until my last rep then he lifts my legs and I can push off from my ankles. Tuff to explain but I do all the work until the last few reps when I use him for help.

Single Arm Pulldown
2 sets @ #4(about 50/60lbs)x10

Good Mornings
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***Nice change up. I couldn't do deads b/c of the pain in my legs so I did good mornings--don't have to bend the legs--and they were awsome. From now on they are staying in my workout routine. Went really light with higher reps purposly so my form is there but i hope to add some decent weight soon.

Bent row mixed w/ shrug--traps
115x15
125x15
135x12
135x12

I really messed with the overall workout and changed the order of the lifts but I just felt like something new. I had a killer back workout and the weights felt awsome. Still have a problem with my grip though for them cable rows...can't get over that and don't know what the problem is.



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Yea thats why I thought it would be OK. Everyone always says bars are horrible and crap though. I don't see anything wrong with chef jay's bars heh.

I have been looking into my diet a little more now with overall cals. In the past I would just go by portions and everything was scientific to the ounces and such of all my foods. But I never payed attention to the overall cal intake and I feel this is what hindered me from getting below my 9%BF last year. I am going to be really focusing on my overall cal intake this time and see if I can shed some pounds faster now. It took me 5 months to lose 10-12 lbs last year and so far I'm down to like 3 or so lbs in the month of november. I know progress will be slow from here on out but with cardio kicking up soon--another month--I think I could drop another 5 or so by Febuary.
They're not horrible. There are better things you could eat if your choices weren't limited, but it's better than the other options you have in a pinch: other small packaged goods (Chips, candy bars, etc.) or slipping into the evil grip of catabolism.

Diet is going to make all the difference for you. If you really pay attention to overall calories, then you have a baseline to correct against.



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Nice WO !

I know i could scan back but I can't remember what is wrong with your leg ?



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Nice WO !

I know i could scan back but I can't remember what is wrong with your leg ?
First it was my MCL(knee) and now I did something to me hip flexor. Can't lift my leg for shit without a ton of pain. When laying flat I can't lift me left leg at all it just hurts to much but I can still walk around and stuff. If I go from sitting to standing it hurts alot but once I loosens up its not so bad.



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They're not horrible. There are better things you could eat if your choices weren't limited, but it's better than the other options you have in a pinch: other small packaged goods (Chips, candy bars, etc.) or slipping into the evil grip of catabolism.

Diet is going to make all the difference for you. If you really pay attention to overall calories, then you have a baseline to correct against.
Yea they are def. better then junk food. They always help me when I'm in a bind but work really has me screwing up my diet. Its tuff to keep on track when I'm so damn busy...but hey yesterday was only one day.



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Yea I should have done that...wasn't thinking at the time. Now I'm to busy to surf the web as much as I'd like but eventually I'll get all my goodies back



Yea my cousin is proud of me...he always brags how I was his little prodigy and how he has transformed me. I should carry my before pictures around for him to show people to LOL. I still workout with him after 2 years now so its been really great. We go on and off but been consistent for months now. I love working out with him.




He told me but as a young kid I tried to keep up and didn't know about juice at the time. I was foolish and just did everything he did thinking eh steroids don't help that much. Boy was I wrong LOL. As he progressed I degressed and got sick....but in the end I got the last laugh. Me and him are equal now b/c he got so many injuries he had to take off of training for so long and lost most of his mass. Hahahahaha


Yes I have to run if I want to make money and keep my job. The longer people wait the less tips I make and some of the places I have to get cars are close to 2 blocks away so I really need to run in order to make decent timing. As for Vit's no I don't take any. I have some left over but my budget got really tight so its tuff for me to keep up with em. I guess I could try and start taking some again. Would that really help alot?


I have been a volunteer fireman for over a year now and its really awsome. In may or april I am trying to take the test in order to become a paid fireman. Thats my ultimate goal in life so if I could get hired I would be so damn happy.
All of this makes me tired!!! You are ONE busy man and you've learned a lot in the process.

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Sorry I meant to post this earlier but I had to run to work. I was schedualed to do legs but they are really sore from work and just overall my joints are hurting so I am taking another week or so off from them. I can't afford to keep getting injured its ruining my life and other workouts.

DB Row
60'sx8
65'sx8
70'sx6

WG Cable Row
150x8
150x10

Stiff Arm Pulldown
2 sets @ 100x10

CG Chin

spotx12
spotx10
***Spotter really just hold my ankles and doesn't help me just sort of takes a few pounds off almost until my last rep then he lifts my legs and I can push off from my ankles. Tuff to explain but I do all the work until the last few reps when I use him for help.

Single Arm Pulldown
2 sets @ #4(about 50/60lbs)x10

Good Mornings
75x12
75x15
85x15
***Nice change up. I couldn't do deads b/c of the pain in my legs so I did good mornings--don't have to bend the legs--and they were awsome. From now on they are staying in my workout routine. Went really light with higher reps purposly so my form is there but i hope to add some decent weight soon.

Bent row mixed w/ shrug--traps
115x15
125x15
135x12
135x12

I really messed with the overall workout and changed the order of the lifts but I just felt like something new. I had a killer back workout and the weights felt awsome. Still have a problem with my grip though for them cable rows...can't get over that and don't know what the problem is.
Killer work out dude



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All of this makes me tired!!! You are ONE busy man and you've learned a lot in the process.

Keep faith that all will fall into place with your work outs.
You and me both...it gets exhausting sometimes. But hey it needs to be done. Every so often it gets crazy and i start stressin but somehow it always works out for the best.

Just found out this morning I am almost leading my fire dept. in the amount of calls I've made this year so far. 4 more weeks to catch the leader. He's only got me by 2 calls so I hope this last month of 2004 I can top him.



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Killer work out dude
Thanks Babs!!! Nothing like your workouts but these rep range weeks kill me...take so much out of ya to get those darned reps LOL.



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You and me both...it gets exhausting sometimes. But hey it needs to be done. Every so often it gets crazy and i start stressin but somehow it always works out for the best.

Just found out this morning I am almost leading my fire dept. in the amount of calls I've made this year so far. 4 more weeks to catch the leader. He's only got me by 2 calls so I hope this last month of 2004 I can top him.

I know it's hard, but try not to stress out a lot. It's not good for D muscles.


Are you soliciting? What kind of calls are these?



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Thanks Babs!!! Nothing like your workouts but these rep range weeks kill me...take so much out of ya to get those darned reps LOL.

You're welcome.

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I know it's hard, but try not to stress out a lot. It's not good for D muscles.


Are you soliciting? What kind of calls are these?
Yea stress sux but soon enough...dec 20th I go on winter vacation so I'll be stress FREE !!!!! lol The rest will be nice.

Calls...Fire Calls. We have pagers that the fire headquarters in our town can activate when there is a fire. So if someone calls for the firemen the dispatcher sends out our "tones" and the specific companies they tone out respond to the firehouse to gear up then we respond on the engine. Each call is documented..a report is taken..and a roll call is signed stating who made it to the call. At the end of the year if you make 30%+ of all the calls you get something called LOSAP which is a few thousand $ a year that gets put into something like a 401k and once you retire you get all the $$. The people that always m