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11-15-2004, 04:58 PM
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11-15-2004, 05:32 PM
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happy sumo
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P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B. |
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11-16-2004, 07:14 AM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Went up to 375mcg today. Dropped the adderall XR, just out of curiousity. I better not fall asleep in class.
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11-16-2004, 08:24 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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No nausea with the increase today. Felt pretty good. Gonna do 500mcg tomorrow.
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11-17-2004, 03:38 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Bumped to 500mcg this morning. Zero sides, except for a sudden wave of moderately intense nausea around 11:30am, about 4 hours post ingestion. I forced myself to eat some food, and it cleared up rather quickly. I think the nausea is a result of the brain confusing the signals its getting from the stomach. Perhaps a lot of DA + an abnormal amount of some other hunger modulator really screws up the brains interpretation of hunger.
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11-17-2004, 04:20 PM
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11-17-2004, 06:36 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MA
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Training for 11/17: Chest/Back
Flat BB press 240lbx1 245lbx1 245lbx1 BB row - 215lbx6 215lbx6 215lbx5 215lbx5 215lbx4 215lbx4 Incline DB - 60lbx11 60lbx8 WG cable pulldowns - 150lbx11 150lbx8 Cable machine fly - 30lbx20 ------ Ive been tired and short on time lately, and its starting to show. Progress is slowing. I havent done any direct arm work in a month or so. This weekend im gonna set up a new mesocycle. Ive got a ticket appeal to go to tomorrow. Then ive got another one on monday. lol. I may be able to get out of em, though... i suppose working for lawyers does have some benefits.  |
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11-17-2004, 07:27 PM
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11-18-2004, 09:23 AM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Bumped to 750mcg perg this morning. Dropped the wellbutrin because of the rather large jump (500-750), if all goes well ill add it back in in a few days.
Took the perg ~2 hours ago. No sides so far, except im a bit more depressed than normal (normal being defined as my mood for the past 3 or 4 weeks). My ticket appeal went rather poorly. The magistrate offered to reduce the fine to $100 (from $250), but that wouldnt really cut it considering id lose my license regardless of the fine. Anyway, talking to her afterwards while i was paying the appeal fee, she mentioned that she couldnt have given me a break anyway, because the statie would have appealed her decision anyway. Apparently a friend knows the judge im appealing to, though, so theres another shot. |
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11-18-2004, 03:03 PM
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happy sumo
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I got pulled over, and I had an expired drivers lisence. So I got a ticket for it, and a warning for speeding. I paid it, no biggie. Then 9 days later, I was pulled over for expired registration(2 days over) and the cop gave me a ticket for that AND an expired lisence. I dont feel I need to pay 2 expired lisence tickets, seeing as it wasnt even 2 weeks, and I had to take time out of my day to go to the DMV and re-take the test to get it renewed. I also dont want to pay the registration, because I thought there was a grace period. I need to know if I should plea not guilty, or no contest(and just tell my side of the case?) Not sure how it all works. |
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11-18-2004, 06:38 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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I'm not sure what the laws are in your state, but there are sometimes loopholes such as if you get two tickets for the same offence within a given time period, theyll be combined into one ticket. Normally its only like 72 hours, though. But for what you should say to the magistrate... whatever you do, dont say "i dont feel like i should have to pay this because i just got fined for it a few days ago." All the court cares about is determining whether or not you have a legitimate, legal defense of your action. Saying something like "its not fair" will probably just piss off the court, and you wont even get a reduction. Did you ever go down to the DMV after getting that first ticket? |
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11-18-2004, 06:39 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
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Im tempted to jump to 1mg tomorrow, but i think ill just do 875mcg + the wellbutrin, since ive got a pretty busy schedule tomorrow morning. |
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11-18-2004, 06:48 PM
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happy sumo
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P-side Inc.
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11-19-2004, 06:26 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Bumped to 875mcg this morning. Added the wellbutrin back in, too. I barely noticed a thing... very limited nausea. I'm toying with the idea of jumping right up to 1.25mg tomorrow, since i really dont want to spend a month titrating up to 4-5mg.
Diet has been its usual shitty self. Damn, im a fat mofo... but chocolate chip cookies are soooo tasty.  I tried setting up a new split today. Here's what im thinking it'll look like: Day 1 - Chest/Back Flat BB press - 3 sets, 8-10 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Incline DB press - 3 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo BB row - 3 sets, 4-6 reps, 2-3m RI, 3/0/1 tempo DB pullover - 1 set, timed, 1m RI, 2/0/2 tempo Day 2 - Legs Squats - 4 sets, 4-6 reps, 2-3m RI, 3/0/1 tempo SLDL - 4 sets, 4-6 reps, 2-3m RI, 3/0/1 tempo Day 3 - Calves/Abs/Grip Standing calf raise - 2 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Seated calf raise - 2 sets, 10-12 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Standing calf raise - 1 set, timed, 1m RI, 2/0/2 tempo Cable crunch - 3 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Decline situps - 3 sets, 10-12 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Rear BB curl - 2 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Forward BB curl - 2 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Day 4 - Chest/Back Flat BB press - 3 sets, 1-3 reps, 4-5m RI, 3/0/x tempo Cable fly - 1 set, timed, 1m RI, 2/0/2 tempo Cable rows - 3 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo WG pulldowns - 3 sets, 8-10 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Day 5 - Legs Leg Press - 3 sets, 8-10 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Leg extenstion - 2 sets, timed, 1m RI, 2/0/2 tempo Lying leg curl - 2 sets, 8-10 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Seated leg curl - 2 sets, timed, 1m RI, 2/0/2 tempo Day 6 - Shoulders/Arms/Traps Standing BB mil press - 2 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Reverse pec dec - 2 sets, 6-8 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Cam bar preacher curl - 2 sets, 10-12 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Cable pushdowns - 2 sets, 10-12 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo DB shrugs - 3 sets, 10-12 reps, 1-2m RI, 3/0/2 tempo Day 7 - OFF ----------------------------- So for the week, the direct sets per bp looks like this - Chest: 10 Back: 10 Quads: 9 Hams: 8 Abs: 6 Calves: 5 Grip: 4 Shoulders: 4 Biceps: 2 Triceps: 2 Workouts shouldnt have me in the gym more than 45-60mins each. I'm currently bulking, not using any anabolics. Thoughts/comments/suggestions, please? |
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11-19-2004, 06:28 PM
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Peak Physiques™
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NY
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Your sig is really annoying.
5 mg? You are insane. Post some of those weights, dammit. |
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11-19-2004, 07:11 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MA
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Pick out a new sig for me, then.
And what weights am i supposed to be posting? About the only weight thats increasing by any degree of interest is my bodyweight. |
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11-19-2004, 07:18 PM
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Peak Physiques™
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Dunno. I just see sets and reps, with no idea of how much weight you are using.
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11-20-2004, 02:08 AM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Oh... well, i suppose id have to give the routine a run through first to be very specific. Weights would probably be pretty similar to the earlier stuff i posted, just modified a bit for the different rep ranges obviously.
Update for the journal: I dropped 30mg IR adderall and 500mcg pramipexole before i went out tonight. Had a very mild headache that lasted about 5 minutes soon after i took it, but beyond that, i felt fine. |
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11-20-2004, 09:59 AM
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Looks like a lot of gym time and not enougth rest. For me - a day of rest in between every workout has really helped my strength. At least put a day off in betwen Back and Legs. Lastly - I'd throw in deadlifting on back day. |
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"You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you." |
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11-20-2004, 01:56 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Thanks for the suggestions, YM!
Youre right about adding in another rest day... thats the one thing i was concerned about too. But i thought that due to how "easy" a couple of the days were (like day 3 where im only doing calves, abs, and forearms) i could get away with it. Plus its so damn nice to have a routine that falls on the same day every week. As for the deadlifts... im not so sure about that. Id actually really like to throw them in, but theyve always seemed to hit my legs harder than my back. Probably because my legs are weak as shit.  Putting them on one of the back days would kinda suck, because then id be going in the next day to work legs.I might try to switch things around a bit, though. I miss deads. |
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11-20-2004, 02:17 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MA
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Update time...
Last night before i went out i threw back 500mcg pramipexole and 30mg IR adderall. Didnt notice the effects consciously, but there was a subtle yet rather pronounced elevation of mood and sociable behavior as i look back. Only side was a slight headache soon after i ingested those happy little pills. Im becoming more confident in concomitant use of pergolide and pramipexole, as each drugs affinity for the D2 receptor is separated by a factor of 10. Pergolide has no activity at the D3 receptor, which is where pramipexole does all its work. Anyway, i woke up late this morning - around 11:30 - and decided to dose the pergolide anyway, since one day of an endocrine car wreck wasnt going to kill me (and chocolate chip cookies are soooooo goooooooood). I also decide i should go for a 250mcg bump, since im impatient. Well... long story short, by 1:30 i had written myself a little note: stop being a fucking retard. Yeah, things didnt go well. An hour or so after 1.125mg pergolide (along with my other cocktail of DA signaling goodies), i started to feel the nausea comin' on. It was no big deal, as im fairly used to it at this point. But then it went beyond the normal nausea by 10% or so. Then 20%. 50%. Then i puked into my sink, because i just didnt start the sprint to the bathroom soon enough to make it to the toilet. Let me tell you, cleaning puke out of a sink is NOT FUN. What pissed me off the most, though, is that my goddamn piece of shit body made me waste half the pergolide. Thats my estimate, anyway... since peak absorption occurs about 2 hours post-ingestion, and i was only at an hour. Anyway, i felt fine immediately afterwards... which leads me to believe that large dose increases might best be taken on an empty stomach, since its just the feeling of a full stomach that can piss off your body. I also got thinking about what i could do to reduce the nausea associated with pergolide titration. I know its related to Substance P/neurokinin 1, but thats about it. I know capsaicin can reduce levels of Substance P... maybe i should start chugging hotsauce? Theres also the possibility of using cancer anti-nausea drugs usually used after chemotherapy. Assuming theyre not very finicky drugs, they might make pergolide use a whole lot more attractive to most people... |
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11-21-2004, 01:23 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ
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