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Old 11-23-2004, 10:55 PM   #61
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Took another mg of perg this morning and attempted to no-carb it again, but for a different reason. I wanted to see if ginger - that classic home remedy for nausea - had any effect on perg's overall feeling-of-well-beaten. I hadnt even thought of it untill i saw some references to it in some literature i was reading... and suprise suprise, it did work (to an extent). There was a noticable decrease in nausea, but not enough to wipe the pergo-grimace off my face.

I havent had a chance to bump the dosage up lately, since vomiting onto a lawyer and/or professor probably wouldnt go over well. Luckily turkey day is almost here, which gives me a perfect opportunity to see how lots of pergolide interacts with lots of tryptophan (and i have a nagging feeling that its going to = lots of vomit).

I didnt make it into the gym today. So much for that fancy-schmancy routine i put together up above. Ah well.



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Old 11-23-2004, 10:57 PM   #62
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I wish I had your enthusiasm when it came to medicating myself.



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Old 11-24-2004, 05:29 PM   #63
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:32 PM   #64
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Took another mg today. Nausea is basically a nonfactor at this point as long as i get a decent amount of carbs in me, but i didnt feel like tempting fate. And since ive got the next 4 days off, theres plenty of time for me to make myself spew.

No gym today... only excuse is that im dead tired. Got about 90 minutes of sleep last night, so i doubt id be very effective in the squat rack anyway. Gym is closed tomorrow.



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Old 11-24-2004, 05:38 PM   #65
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Let´s try something fun tonight. Overdose.



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Old 11-24-2004, 05:50 PM   #66
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Let´s try something fun tonight. Overdose.
After an overdose on pergolide i'd be able to projectile vomit all the way to brazil.



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Old 11-24-2004, 05:55 PM   #67
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Old 11-25-2004, 05:59 PM   #68
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1.125mg this morning, about an hour after i ate some carbs (pumpkin bread - with no cream cheese - kthx). No nausea, etc etc. Still had a couple waves of feeling "woozy," but nothing bad.

I was planning on doing a full week of effexor @ 75mg, but i think i might go down to 37.5mg tomorrow and bump the perg to 1.375mg.

Diet was probably similar to most people, today. Im finally going to put all this overeating to use by headin in to the gym tomorrow. Halle-fuckin-lujah.



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Old 11-26-2004, 11:33 PM   #69
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Bumped to 1.375mg. Dropped effexor to 37.5mg. No nausea. Felt a little out of it for a good part of the morning, but nothing too bad. No gym, again. God, im turning into such a fat, lazy bastard. Fucking holidays.

Anyway, im not sure what im dosing the perg at tomorrow. Obviously it'll be a 125 or a 250mcg jump... just havent decided which, yet. I need to be productive tomorrow, but still, that 250 is calling my name. Eh....



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Old 11-27-2004, 07:15 AM   #70
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is any of this stuff helping MONO? Or are you still just trying to get the dosages right?



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is any of this stuff helping MONO? Or are you still just trying to get the dosages right?
Still messing with the dose.

And i suppose im not really even looking for it to "help" anything at this point, its more just curiosity.



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Old 11-27-2004, 06:41 PM   #72
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Bumped to 1.5mg this morning. Then i vomited. WTF. I bumped by 250mcg yesterday and had no problem. Yet just 125mcg today makes me feel like complete shit and i end up clinging to the toilet bowl (at least i made it to the bowl this time, and didnt have to clean chunky puke out of the sink).

The one similarity i can see between this time and the last time i puked was the timing of the dose. Last time i took the perg late, around 11:30am. Thats about the time i took it this morning. Something to look into.



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Old 11-29-2004, 12:48 PM   #73
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Sorry for the missed update yesterday. I was busy ignoring all of my responsibilities and playing ultima online (ugh) for most of the day.

Took 1.375mcg yesterday, IIRC i felt physically fine, but mentally i had the urge to run around raping and pillaging. I also didnt take any effexor today, and had some really bizarre mental sides. If i was up and walking around, or if i moved much at all, id get waves of dizziness and some other shit thats rather hard to describe. There's a bunch of shit on "effexor withdrawal" on google if anyones that interested.

Anyway, in an effort to control the nausea, as i mentioned, ive been decreasing the use of other DA stimulating drugs... however, the problem here is that because of the nasty fucking depression i fall into without these happy pills, i lose all motivation and generally just want to stay in my room and stare at the ceiling, as i mentally masturbate to images of death and destruction (merry xmas!!). So, that said, i decided to add just about everything back in today... since theres no way i was gonna make it through the end of the semester with a decent gpa with that kind of residual teen-angst. Stupid to add everything in at once, but hey - im a stupid guy.

So this mornings brew looked like this:
1.375mg pergolide
500mcg pramipexole
60mg adderall XR
300mg wellbutrin
37.5mg effexor

One hour later (prompt as always), i puked in the school parking lot. It was some pretty nasty looking puke, too... whey/casein mix, an apple, and some cider doughnuts. Blech. Got a pretty viscious sleep "attack" as well. I should note that these only seem to affect me when im not actively doing something. When this one hit i was just sitting in my car trying to dig out a toothbrush so i wouldnt walk around all day with vomit-breath. If i'm doing something like driving, writing, or really involved with any kind of stimuli... i can feel them coming on, but theyre easily ignored and dont feel very strong. Also of interest is that i only got around 4.5-5 hours of sleep last night... which as ive noticed a couple times before, the lack of sleep seems to drastically potentiate the force of the "sleep attacks."

I felt like shit for most of the morning, but its just clearing up now. I can tell i didnt vomit up all of the encapsulated goodness, because mood is still rather good. I feel tired (although im sure this is nothing more than not getting enough sleep last night), but generally im in a much better mood than i was over the weekend.



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Old 11-30-2004, 03:18 PM   #74
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Oh, i went to the gym yesterday. Finally. Hit chest/back. Felt good, and interestingly, strength had actually maintained or increased slightly since last week... and all i did a week ago was 6 sets for chest and 4 for back. Normally my strength drops a bit if i take a week off... especially if my last w/o was pretty weak.

Was gonna hit legs today, but im feeling rather crappy (pergolide). Took 1.375mg again this morning, along with my bucket 'o happiness, with some carbs. Still felt pretty shitty. It'll probably take a couple days to adjust. Dammit. Stupid fucking drug. I need a non-ergot agonist NOW! *throws tantrum*

Maybe i should just throw back 4mg for a week and see what happens. I wont eat for 7 days, but maybe it'll just get this titration bullshit over with. I should probably get myself a DA antagonist on hand just in case....



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60mg adderall xr
300mg wellbutrin
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1.125mcg pergolide

yeah... so i woke up late and was in a rush to get out the door, and didnt measure out the right amount of pergolide. ive felt pretty good (great, even... since im back on the XR) so far today, obviously in part because im not on a full pergo dose.

Finals begin for me next week. Ugh.



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Old 12-02-2004, 07:09 PM   #77
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lmao

First, a little background: A few years ago, when i was 15-16, i got pushed into therapy. I didn't want to go, and did my best to remain mute during these forced sessions (this is before i realized how much fun prescription drugs are). As you can imagine, very little was accomplished. Even if i hadnt been so resistant, there probably still wouldnt have been much benefit since in general i dont like talking about my completely whacked psychosocial/dynamic state. It's mostly out of a fear of scaring people off, but i digress.

My current psychiatrist suggested i give therapy another shot. After much prodding, i finally agreed to give it a go. I wasn't sure how much i'd be willing to discuss untill i was actually in the room with this person, but figured one session wouldnt hurt. This first session was this morning...


So i woke up late this morning, around 10am (was up late). Didnt have class untill 2pm. I had meant to get up earlier because of a 10:30 appointment with the therapist, but obviously overslept. I wanted to get a couple hours of pergolide behind me before i went in. Unfortunately, by taking it at 10, it coordinated the worst sides with the exact time id be having my brain picked by this person. Needless to say, the session didnt go well. I got there late, and felt alright when i arrived. As soon as i went into the therapists office, though, i began to feel the pergolide start on it's daily hour long journey of nausea and disorientation. So we sit down, and this woman starts going into the whole "we're a team; we can talk about anything," etc spiel. I'm speaking a bit, but i slowly become more and more mute. Why? Because i dont know which therapist to talk to at this point - my vision is going nutso, and unless i actively refocus my eyes on an object/person, everything blurs out and multiplies.

I tell her i'm just not very comfortable with talking about my emotions, but she continues prying. By this point im wondering if the little wicker basket she has in the corner can hold puke or not. My concentration on her is minimal, as most of it is going into trying to appear sober and not stoned to shit. I start realizing that she's asking me indirect questions, and im not picking up on them. I just smile wryly as if i dont want to answer.

Finally, after an entire agonizing hour of hearing her cluck on and on about all this touchy-feely bullshit, she starts making subtle gestures to indicate the session is coming to a close. I gladly stumbled up out of the chair, out into the reception area, and respond with a rather slurred "you too" to someone who just proffered a "have a good day" to the person she was talking to on the phone.

Once back in my car, i drove over to the far end of the parking lot, and promptly passed out for an hour.

I've done it half a dozen times now, but i never learn. That is: don't try to cut your sleep short on pergolide. It really makes everything worse. I dont think i got more than 5-5.5 hours of sleep last night. With 7-8 hours, these "sleep attacks" are more or less nonexistent... even if im sitting in class listening to a boring lecture.



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Old 12-02-2004, 07:32 PM   #78
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Are you going to go back to her? Why not tell her you are using pergo?



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Are you going to go back to her? Why not tell her you are using pergo?
Any doctor would freak at the thought of someone using unprescribed drugs. It's understandable - they dont know how much you know, and if they use the general population as a baseline, then there's reason to worry. Not to mention that it'd be rare to find a psychologist who's familiar with the specific pharmacology of a drug like pergolide. Theyre trained as therapists, not pharmacists.

If i were in their shoes, i know i'd probably say something like "WTF? You're a healthy 21 year old, why the fuck are you taking an anti-parkinson agent?! It makes you vomit!! What kind of weirdo are you?? Most people abuse drugs that make them feel GOOD, not BAD!"

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Where are you getting your "haloween candy"?



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Ya, what kind of weirdo are you?
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Ya, what kind of weirdo are you?
Your subtly serious question hidden in a faux-smiley is well taken.

And to answer it... i dunno. I suppose someone has to soak up all the crazy juice to protect the rest of the gene pool.



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Old 12-03-2004, 03:01 PM   #83
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Oh yeah, weight training.

I doubt anyone's interested in the numbers, but i ran through days 2 and 4 this past week of the routine i posted in the training forum. I felt suprisingly strong. My training and diet has been far below par lately, yet i managed to confidently press more weight than ever before on the flat bench. I did a couple singles with 250. Ive gone slightly higher before (255 i think?), but that was with a wider grip and a faster, less controlled tempo.

This definitely isnt normal for me, especially since - again - my diet has been shit. Ive barely been getting my minimum protein in (and some of that protein has come from peanut M&M's).

Also, as for todays pergolide update: i'm backing down to 1mg, as im getting close to the end of my stash and didnt order more in time. Worse comes to worst, i can just go stealth around some old people home and thief their meds.



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Where are you getting your "haloween candy"?
Legitimate Rx and a few gray market sources.



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Your subtly serious question hidden in a faux-smiley is well taken.

And to answer it... i dunno. I suppose someone has to soak up all the crazy juice to protect the rest of the gene pool.
I thought my family had sucked up all the crazy juice.....
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