Pergolide, Mirapex, Amphetamine, Selegeline, and other assorted halloween candies

Monolith · 12-05-2004, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbchick

the language in this log is a fucking disgrace.
I couldn't deal with all that vomiting and pizza and french fries would do that w/out the chemicals.
so you think it's worth it?
is it possible to vomit in a straitjacket?

lmao

The vomiting isnt much fun, but suprisingly it doesnt bother me too much. I havent had any of it lately, but ive been keeping my dose steady.

As for the question of whether or not its worth it... thats truly a personal decision. I mean, there are so many different variables that would go into a decision like this. i.e., is it worth the actual COST of the drug? would spending that money on something else make me happier? do i really want to deal with the side effects just to see if it works as described? do i have the time to deal with the sides? do i have the time to learn about the pharmacodynamics of the drug in general; to educate myself about what it is im ingesting? etc etc etc....

For me, its worth it. Not so much for the reasons written about by Lyle and Loki (although that was certainly the catalyst), but for the fascinating way in which DA agonists (and drugs in general) can completely alter mood, perception, personality, etc. The body is one giant chemistry set, and im enjoying the experimentation.

Rocco32 · 12-05-2004, 04:39 PM

Damn, I just read the whole journal and I didn't understand any of it, LOL. Hey there Mono! Good luck with what your doing and IMO impressive weights, keep posting numbers. BTW, clean your diet the fuck up!

Monolith · 12-06-2004, 01:36 PM

rofl, thanks rock.

Monolith · 12-06-2004, 02:28 PM

Not much to update with yesterday. Still at 1mg pergo. Appetite has been fairly strong in the evenings.

I might go to the gym today, might not. Ive got a ton of shit to do, and its also snowing, cold, and generally crappy out.

Monolith · 12-07-2004, 08:00 AM

Just won on a ticket appeal this morning... long story short, someone i know was able to reschedule my appeal without telling the statie. So he was a no show.

PreMier · 12-07-2004, 03:02 PM

Damn you lucky bastard

Vieope · 12-07-2004, 04:44 PM

Mono needs recreational drugs. Damn, who the hell takes that much drugs just to be stable? You need to get high. That is the whole purpose of the existence of drugs.
Bounce with me Mono.

Monolith · 12-09-2004, 07:02 PM

Sorry for the lack of updates (again). Finals are giving me a nice little skullfuck. I know there are at least a couple people who had some interest in this log... so here's a note to say it's not dead, just not a priority for the moment.

Not much to update with over the past 3 days. I stayed at 1mg on tuesday and wednesday along with the rest of my cocktail. The effexor is still at 25mg. May try dropping to 12.5mg over the weekend... but it seems like my depression is worsening (although it could just be that im interpreting some withdrawal symptoms as a worsening depression). I'm going to come off for at least a couple weeks just to make sure im not imagining things, but at the moment i feel like it won't be gone for long.

I ran out of pergo today, and downed my last 250mcg. "Made up for it" with 500mcg pramipexole (along with the rest of the cocktail). Suprisingly, hunger has still been suppressed quite well.

An interesting note is that over the past week or so ive been experiencing a bit of a tremor in my hands. Now let me make this clear, it's nothing noticable to a third person. Even if i hold up my hand in front of a light, the tremor is barely noticable. It is definitely there, however. The only time i find it annoying is when i'm writing. It's not as if my writing is scrawled across the entire page, but it's certainly not as crisp as usual.

There are quite a few hypotheses for why this happens (as its pretty common in people using dopaminergics for parkinsons), but either directly or indirectly they almost all revolve around 5-HT. I'd go into greater detail, but school shit beckons, and i dont have any of the literature on this shit organized.

Oh yeah, i havent been to the gym in a fucking week. I havent hit my legs in a week and a half. I feel like shit. I cant wait for break.

Monolith · 12-09-2004, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vieope

Mono needs recreational drugs. Damn, who the hell takes that much drugs just to be stable? You need to get high. That is the whole purpose of the existence of drugs.
Bounce with me Mono.

Maybe im always high, and just trying to claw back to reality.

PreMier · 12-09-2004, 07:06 PM

How long do you suspect it will take before the 'tremors' subside?

aggies1ut · 12-09-2004, 07:13 PM

Tremors while taking medications for Parkinson's Disease...interesting...

I'm Trying · 12-09-2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock4832

Damn, I just read the whole journal and I didn't understand any of it, LOL.

Good to see I wasn't the only one...

Whats up Mono??

Monolith · 12-12-2004, 02:11 PM

Hey IT.

Tremors will probably last as long as i'm sitting at a steady dose. The up-titration doesnt give the receptors enough time to sensitize. I've been off for a few days now and the tremors are gone (although that could be related to something else, which im too lazy to explain. lol).

Anyway, something interesting to note... my diet lately has consisted of M&M's, pie, cookies, etc... and over the past week i lost 10lbs. I'm pretty pissed. Obviously there's probably a ton of muscle in that 10lbs, although i do look a LOT leaner, and my gut is down about an inch and a half. Theres probably some water in there too.

Twin Peak · 12-12-2004, 02:36 PM

10 lbs and you are eating like that? The pergo? Have you used bromo?

Monolith · 12-12-2004, 03:18 PM

Never used bromo, although the pramipexole - which im using right now - is very similar to bromo.

I'm thinking the weight loss is mostly a result of a straight caloric defecit, though. Even with all that shit ive been eating, the hunger suppression from the perg and the pram have been pretty intense. Then again, that lower dose of perg i was on could very well have equated with a higher dose, considering i was on a few other dopaminergic drugs at the same time.

We'll see tomorrow, when i finally make it back into the gym (i hope). If i'm weak as shit, then it was just the defecit. If i'm only down a tiny bit or (as far fetched as it may seem) unchanged, then we'll know there was something else going on.

Monolith · 12-15-2004, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monolith

my diet lately has consisted of M&M's, pie, cookies, etc... and over the past week i lost 10lbs. I'm pretty pissed. Obviously there's probably a ton of muscle in that 10lbs, although i do look a LOT leaner, and my gut is down about an inch and a half. Theres probably some water in there too.

So i finally made it back into the gym today. I did some light chest/back work... and my weights hadnt dropped at all. In 2 weeks. With a shitty diet. And after losing 10lbs.

Monolith · 12-19-2004, 12:50 PM

THREE MORE DAYS!

JUST THREE MORE!

And no, i dont mean christmas.

PreMier · 12-20-2004, 03:16 PM

Is that when you get more pergo?

Monolith · 12-20-2004, 03:40 PM

lol, nah, close. finals are over in 3 days.

Vieope · 12-20-2004, 09:01 PM

Hey Mono.

Rocco32 · 12-24-2004, 11:24 AM

Hey Mono, hope you have a great Christmas!

Vieope · 12-31-2004, 05:27 PM

.. and a happy new year!

12-05-2004, 04:39 PM	#92
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Damn, I just read the whole journal and I didn't understand any of it, LOL. Hey there Mono! Good luck with what your doing and IMO impressive weights, keep posting numbers. BTW, clean your diet the fuck up!
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

12-06-2004, 01:36 PM	#93
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	rofl, thanks rock.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-06-2004, 02:28 PM	#94
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Not much to update with yesterday. Still at 1mg pergo. Appetite has been fairly strong in the evenings. I might go to the gym today, might not. Ive got a ton of shit to do, and its also snowing, cold, and generally crappy out.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-07-2004, 08:00 AM	#95
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Just won on a ticket appeal this morning... long story short, someone i know was able to reschedule my appeal without telling the statie. So he was a no show.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-07-2004, 03:02 PM	#96
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,081 Photos: 2	Damn you lucky bastard
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

12-07-2004, 04:44 PM	#97
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,826 Photos: 10	Mono needs recreational drugs. Damn, who the hell takes that much drugs just to be stable? You need to get high. That is the whole purpose of the existence of drugs. Bounce with me Mono.
	FURtherness

12-09-2004, 07:02 PM	#98
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Sorry for the lack of updates (again). Finals are giving me a nice little skullfuck. I know there are at least a couple people who had some interest in this log... so here's a note to say it's not dead, just not a priority for the moment. Not much to update with over the past 3 days. I stayed at 1mg on tuesday and wednesday along with the rest of my cocktail. The effexor is still at 25mg. May try dropping to 12.5mg over the weekend... but it seems like my depression is worsening (although it could just be that im interpreting some withdrawal symptoms as a worsening depression). I'm going to come off for at least a couple weeks just to make sure im not imagining things, but at the moment i feel like it won't be gone for long. I ran out of pergo today, and downed my last 250mcg. "Made up for it" with 500mcg pramipexole (along with the rest of the cocktail). Suprisingly, hunger has still been suppressed quite well. An interesting note is that over the past week or so ive been experiencing a bit of a tremor in my hands. Now let me make this clear, it's nothing noticable to a third person. Even if i hold up my hand in front of a light, the tremor is barely noticable. It is definitely there, however. The only time i find it annoying is when i'm writing. It's not as if my writing is scrawled across the entire page, but it's certainly not as crisp as usual. There are quite a few hypotheses for why this happens (as its pretty common in people using dopaminergics for parkinsons), but either directly or indirectly they almost all revolve around 5-HT. I'd go into greater detail, but school shit beckons, and i dont have any of the literature on this shit organized. Oh yeah, i havent been to the gym in a fucking week. I havent hit my legs in a week and a half. I feel like shit. I cant wait for break.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-09-2004, 07:06 PM	#100
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,081 Photos: 2	How long do you suspect it will take before the 'tremors' subside?
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

12-09-2004, 07:13 PM	#101
aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	Tremors while taking medications for Parkinson's Disease...interesting...

12-12-2004, 02:11 PM	#103
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Hey IT. Tremors will probably last as long as i'm sitting at a steady dose. The up-titration doesnt give the receptors enough time to sensitize. I've been off for a few days now and the tremors are gone (although that could be related to something else, which im too lazy to explain. lol). Anyway, something interesting to note... my diet lately has consisted of M&M's, pie, cookies, etc... and over the past week i lost 10lbs. I'm pretty pissed. Obviously there's probably a ton of muscle in that 10lbs, although i do look a LOT leaner, and my gut is down about an inch and a half. Theres probably some water in there too.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-12-2004, 02:36 PM	#104
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	10 lbs and you are eating like that? The pergo? Have you used bromo?
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12-12-2004, 03:18 PM	#105
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Never used bromo, although the pramipexole - which im using right now - is very similar to bromo. I'm thinking the weight loss is mostly a result of a straight caloric defecit, though. Even with all that shit ive been eating, the hunger suppression from the perg and the pram have been pretty intense. Then again, that lower dose of perg i was on could very well have equated with a higher dose, considering i was on a few other dopaminergic drugs at the same time. We'll see tomorrow, when i finally make it back into the gym (i hope). If i'm weak as shit, then it was just the defecit. If i'm only down a tiny bit or (as far fetched as it may seem) unchanged, then we'll know there was something else going on.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-19-2004, 12:50 PM	#107
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	THREE MORE DAYS! JUST THREE MORE! And no, i dont mean christmas.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-20-2004, 03:16 PM	#108
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,081 Photos: 2	Is that when you get more pergo?
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

12-20-2004, 03:40 PM	#109
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	lol, nah, close. finals are over in 3 days.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

12-20-2004, 09:01 PM	#110
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,826 Photos: 10	Hey Mono.
	FURtherness

12-24-2004, 11:24 AM	#111
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Hey Mono, hope you have a great Christmas!
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

12-31-2004, 05:27 PM	#112
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,826 Photos: 10	.. and a happy new year!

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