Thread: Sand of the Colosseum

What type of training regimen are you currently doing?

CowPimp: My training is fairly flexible now. The focus will be on hypertrophy for the next few months. I have followed a strength protocol for several months now and it will be an interesting switch.

Basically I am training 4x/week or EOD. Pretty much a legs/push/pull split where I just alternate workouts. Deads can go on pull or leg day or neither =D . Nothing fancy. I can experiment with different routines if I want in the context of this workout plan. Nice variety. As long as I don't try to train lifts too frequently, I find I can vary volume quite a bit and still make measureable progress. A lot of times for hypertrophy training I go by percentages so that I can keep my intensity low enough not to fry my cns. I naturally want to bump it up to 90%+ too often and do really low reps.

January 2, 2005

Squat 245x3, 225x3x5
SLDL (Down to mid-shin) 225x3x15

Squats were down about 20 lbs since my last squat workout. Deads felt light and good overall. My cardiovascular system started to give out on me first with such high reps. I wanted to do more afterwards but couldn't think of anything on the fly that I could use to work quads more without hurting my knee. I'll be back in my regular gym next week and will have access to a few machines I like.

Diet/Supps

I am reducing my dosage of T3 to about 50 mg/day both to avert side effects and to taper off in the usual fashion. I'll probably run it at this dose for the next week or two and then taper further.

Diet today was largely meat and brown rice with some veggies thrown in. Already I've ingested way too many calories, but I don't feel like I have overeaten or binged. So not too bad all in all.

January 4, 2005

Weight: 225
Gut: about 39" (expanding rapidly)
Superdrol/M5AA Combo: Awesome
Food: Oats/Casein/Blueberries

Workout

Bench 205x7, 205x2x6
DB OH Press 60x2x110, 65x7
Decline 205x4, 185x7, 185x6
DB Bench 80x4
Flies 45x9
Extensions 35x7, 30x2x8
Tates 40x9

Notes

205x7 is a PR on bench for me. Workout went well. My cardiovascular endurance is rather horrendous at the moment. Need to work on this.

How long have you been on the Superdrol?

How are you handling the bloat/digestive/IBS issues. I think I'm just giving into to my doctor and let him put me on medication for it

Hey Jodi! Today is one week on Superdrol. I am running what I consider to be a very high dose at 40mg/ED. All around I really like it so far, much nicer to be on than M1T but I can't say with certainty how much of the strength gains I get/am getting are from the Drol.

My IBS isn't too bad at this point. It was caused by binging on veggies and as long as I avoid certain foods I can live with it fine. I still notice it each time I eat something though. Sorry to hear that yours is still troubling you so much. I'd go ahead and give the medications a shot and see if they help you. You might also check with Cass over at Ruggedmag to see if she has found out any knew info that might help.

How are you liking the Superdrol? This is your first time with any AAS, no? I hope you notice some of the same effects the guys do when you get up to your max dose (5mg?). Visually, the compound seems at least as effective as M1T if not moreso!

I've been on the superdrol for a week as well. I'm currently just staying on 4mg. I've had a few minor things happen that I noticed so I want to make sure they are nothing before I up the dosage again. My strength started going up and damn it was like it happened overnight. I like the strength

I attempted 19nor transdermal before but after a few days I stopped because I was freaking myself out LOL! I ended up giving it away to a friend. So yeah, this will be my first and last cycle due to they ban. I'd just prefer to stay legal which is why I figured if I was going to do this, I had to do it now!

I'm going to the doc Friday so I'm going to finally just give in and get the Zelnorm. I 've always been hesitant because I just didn't want my body to rely on something in order to stay regular. This is why for a long time now I've been hunting for my own answer but I have run out of options and I'm tired of always feeling this way. Ah well! At least I gave it my best shot!

For those interested, I want to outline a hypothetical bulking plan that could help achieve certain goals rather efficiently. This is all role play of course. I would never think of doing anything like this in real life.

Hypothetical Bulking Plan

Start Date: 12-28-04
Age: 25
Height: 6'2"
Minimum Bodyweight: 202.5 Taken 12-25-04 (have eaten since then)
Current Bodyweight as of 1-6-05 225 lbs
Waistline as of 1-6-05: Just under 39" (just keep reading!)
Arms: 16" left, 15.8" right measured throughout december

Cycle Plan

Weeks 1-5: Superdrol 40mg/ED
Weeks 1-5: M5AA 80-100mg/ED (40mg Preworkout)
Week 2: 1000mg Testosterone Enanthate
Week 3-13: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate/EW (Split Tuesday/Saturday)

Post Cycle Therapy
10 days after last dose Test E
Standard Nolvadex Cycle 40/40/30/20

Other Supplements Taken While On
Letrozole
Nolvadex
Milk Thistle 1g/ED
NAC
Green Tea (for Caffeine)
Nicotine
Liothyronine Sodium (T3) (<= 15mg/ED)
Multivitamins/Multiminerals
Extra Zn, Ca+, K+, Mg+, B, C, E
HCG if used, will follow Swale's protocol starting week ~4

Diet
Minimum 2g/lb Protein
Way the hell too many calories

Hypertrophy Goals
Shouldn't have too much trouble hitting 250 lbs, hopefully decently partitioned.

So there you have it. Nice little bulker.

Official Superdrol Feedback

1)10 days into my cycle
2)Using 40mg/ED
3)Quite a bit of bloat but measureably less than with M1T
4)Weight up to 225
5)Strength gains likely coming mainly from M5AA at this point
6)Moderately high blood pressure 151/75. Highest on M1T was only 138/70!!
7)Definitely lots of sweating at night and a general warm feeling.
8)Good muscle pump round the clock
9 One major abdominal cramp so far. No chest cramping (one of my worst M1T side effects)
10) Cell Volumization is flat out awesome!
11) All around I like it much better than M1T. Mood is positive. As usual my appetite precedes me. Libido much stronger than expected. Feel much more comfortable staying on this compound for longer periods of time.

January 6, 2005

Weight: 225
Waist: <39
Blood Pressure post w/o: 151/75

Hammer Strength Iso Pulldowns 270x3x5
HS High Rows 220x7, 200x9, 200x8
Chins 225x4
Lat Pulldowns 160x8
Weighted Crunches 80x9, 80x8
Curls 50x9, 55x6, 50x8
Forearm Work 30x6, 25x2x8, 40x10
Shrugs 110x17, 110x18, lost grip on both sets

Workout Notes

None of these lifts are at full strength capacity yet. i.e. no new PR's on pulling work today. But I did feel a lot of cns stimulation from the M5AA and had a good workout overall. Long after the workout I felt a slight sharp pain/cramping sensation in both arms. around the bicep/forearm joints. I knew immediately that it was due to lack of K+, so I added quite a bit earlier. Should go away.

Tweaked my lower back about a week or so ago on leg press and it is still recovering somewhat. Hopefully will be back to normal for leg day Saturday.

January 8, 2005

Horizontal Leg Press 270x20, 310x10, 370x9, 370x8
HS Kneeling Leg Curl 77.5x2x10, 77.5x9, 85x8, 100x3
Leg Extension 160x12, 180x12, 220x6, 200x8, 180x15

Notes

Workout totally fubar! Planned to do squats, sldl, and leg press. Had too much lower back pain to do normal vertical leg press. Developed middle back pain while warming up for squats and was unable to do squats or sldl. Couldn't do calves as planned either b/c my achilles heel seemed to bother me a bit too much. Above is my improvisation. My ass was hurting for an entirely different reason.

Bodyweight: 225
Blood Pressure: 148/83

January 9, 2005

Incline 200x3x5, 200x4, 200x3
CGBP 185x6, 175x8, 175x6
Extensions 35x2x10, 35x9, 60x9
HS Declines 120x11, 120x10, 120x8
Laterals 30x10, 30x8, 30x9

Notes

Clear 5 lb increase on Inclines. Endurance high even though I seem to get short of breath easily. Back felt like back of 90 year old man. Better today. Blood pressure 139/63 (a bit better). Sweating and body warmth getting tougher to deal with by the day. Felt a lot of pressure in my head like when I was on M1T. Aggression from M5AA pronounced. Bodyweight up to 226.5 (heavier shoes). Considering lowering dose of Drol to 30mg/ED and dropping M5AA except for pre-workout at the 2 week mark. For the record, dropped T3 entirely about a week ago, and am no longer taking letrozole at the moment (it might be causing some moderate joint pain).

Still on seefood diet. I see very clean foods mostly though. Keeping fat in check. Calories still sky high. Heart arrhythmia that I get from excessive protein intake has been acting up. Though it might be influenced by T3, hence my reason for disontinuing its usage.

January 11, 2005

Bodyweight: 228
Waist: <39

HS Pulldown 275x2x5, 270x5
HS High Row 200x10, 200x8
Weighted Crunches 80x10, 80x9
Curls 55x7, 50x9, 50x8
Forearms 30x7, 25x10, 25x9, 40x10, 40x9, 50x13

Notes

My back still feels somewhat like it is falling apart. Will get better so long as I don't squat though. Still noticing the heart arrhythmia from food/T3. Normally, when I reduce protein the symptoms go away, but not this time. I'll have to think of some new and inventive ways to treat this one. If it is hypothyroid problem then perhaps a stimulant like ephedrine might help. Caffeine seems to help it somewhat. Hopefully within the next 4-5 weeks that symptom will abate as I recover completely from the t3 cycle. I dropped M5AA as noted except for pre-workout and I already feel like my mood has improved somewhat.

You always have the neatest journals

Are you at the 30mg of SD yet? I haven't had any back issues which is good. I'm sticking to 3mg and figured that my strength is still high so there is no reason to increase it.

I started the medication from the doctor for my IBS and all I can say is I wish I did it sooner. I hope I'm not speaking too soon but so far it's been a blessing.

That is really good news Jodi! I don't know if I would have had the gumption to stick it out as long as you have without medication. Glad to hear it appears to be working well. Keep fingers crossed.

I have gone down to 30mg Superdrol. So far I haven't noticed much of a change. Biggest change is a weight jump of about 3 lbs coming off letrozole and dosing down M5AA. btw, I took 60 mg M5AA pre-workout today. Talk about insane cns stimulation. Definitely a lot of sweating going on. Massive amounts food/M5AA and superdrol is one heck of a thermogenic combo. Doesn't help much that it is like 70 degrees in TX now at midnight in the middle of January, lol. Feeling like a human blast furnace.

Back pumps haven't been bad from Superdrol for me either. Its more generalized back pain/injury from specific movements (squat/leg press). I have noticed a bit more calf pump/crampiness than usual these last few days. Likely drol is the cause of that.

January 12, 2005

Went to take a short walk around campus today. Flat terrain, modest difficulty. Not 1/4th the way around campus, I had to stop and rest. Got really bad shin splints like I had been running 10 miles or something. I definitely think this is a Superdrol effect. Never had this happen before when I was only walking!

I did learn something about my heart arrythmia from the affair. It seemed to lessen the minute I started doing cardio/walking and came back full strength and frequency within a minute or so of stopping. So it seems like increasing heart rate and blood flow combats the arrythmia to some extent. I am still not sure how to get it to stop completely as I can't walk all the time lol. That is bugging me somewhat. From what I can tell it is more like a PVC or a PAC than anything else. I noticed that I seemed to have slightly more endurance than I expected and felt like I could have walked for an hour if it weren't for the shin splints.

Also setting class, I worked up quite a sweat despite moderate temperatures. Superdrol sure does appear to be one strong compound. Since I didn't take any M5aa or other stimulants, I can only surmise the effect is from Superdrol directly. I could be hypothyroid, but it shouldn't produce more sweating or increased heartrate.

January 13, 2005

Bodyweight: 235
Waist: 39.25"
BP: 151/78
Arms, Cold Flexed: L=17", R=16.75"

Both arms are up about 1" from my measurements taken in December off cycle. That is a lot of water weight storage in the muscle! I think I am at a PR in total bodyweight now as well.

HS Kneeling Leg Curls 85x8, 85x9, 90x2x6
SLDL (down to mid-shin) 225x20 (easy, felt like I could have done 30)
Leg Extension 180x20, 200x12, 220x7, 200x11, 200x9
Horizontal Leg Press 290x20, 330x20, 380x15, 390x8 (self-assisted)

Workout Notes (skip unless bored)
Some modest strength increases. Endurance very high. Couldn't test limit strength b/c of the machines I was using. Back still giving me shit.

AAS Notes

It has been several days since most of the femara cleared my system. Not surprisingly my weight jumped 7 lbs in just 2 days time. I couldn't pull my shirt sleeve over my shoulder like normal to get the blood pressure cuff on. That was kind of cool. Pretty soon I may not fit in the machine. It says it is built for someone with 9 to 13 inch arms. And they put this thing in the middle of a weightroom. Whatever. Waist was up maybe 1/2 inch or so, not too bad.

Without as much M5AA and no femara I seem to veritably explode with size. Same thing happened on M1T as it is now on Superdrol. But this time I am not holding back on my diet! No woosing out. At this pace, I will hit my goal weight for the cycle long about the time the Test Enanthate finally kicks in, lol. Maybe I should go back on letro and more M5AA to try and keep my weight down.

Nice workout Cardinal. What's your body fat sitting at?

A crude waist to bodyweight calculation says I am around 19%. That actually seems pretty reasonable to me. I know I am likely holding 20-30 lbs water as well, so that might skew the results slightly.

January 14, 2005

Injection Fun

I did a right quad injection on Tuesday and about 40 hours later did my leg workout. I was okay until Friday. When I woke up I could barely walk into class, lol. Kind of carried my right leg along with the rest of me. Between that and my lame ass back, it was quite a funny spectacle.

Test E Notes

I felt like sleeping a bit longer than usual yesterday, about 10 hours to be specific and I am experiencing acne like I did when I was a youngster. I feel it is possible both effects could be due to the Test Enanthate even though I haven't been 'on' for quite two weeks.

SuperDrol

I took 20 of my 30 mg Superdrol right before bed last night. I woke up today, Saturday, feeling normal. But when I got to moving around, I started to feel really clammy quickly and shaky like I missed a caffeine dosage. The temperature in the house is only about 66 degrees but I feel quite hot, almost uncomfortably so.

Arrhythmia

My observation for today is that my heart arrhythmia doesn't seem to go away like it did in the past. Also this time it is still much like a PAC or PVC. I feel it much more strongly and perhaps a bit more frequently around meals. It is least noticable early morning. Activity like walking still seems to improve it. I have been monitoring my heartbeat pretty closely and it seems to be around 78-90 or so beats per minute at rest which isn't too bad, but perhaps a bit higher than usual for me.

January 15, 2005

Bodyweight: 234.5

Bench 215x5, 220x5, 225x5
BB OH Press 145x6
DB OH Press 65x10 70x6
Pushdowns 30x11, 30x2x8, 30x6

Notes

Every set on bench press was a personal record today. Such dramatic strength increases were definitely unexpected. I timed my M5AA dosing perfectly so that it kicked in right at the 1 hour mark when I decided to go for 225 It seems almost as if superdrol is gaining momentum the longer I am on it. It will be three weeks next tuesday. Added 10 lbs to my DB presses today as well. Muscle pumps were about as strong as they ever have been in my triceps. Felt good.

January 16, 2005

Bodyweight: 245.5

HS High Rows 200x10, 220x8, 240x6, 260x3, 220x9
Curls 60x3, 50x10
Lat Pulldowns 200x7, 200x2x6
Forearms 30x8, 25x11, 25x8, 40x14, 45x8, 55x10

Notes

I, I need a girlfriend. Any volunteers?

Workout was good. Nearing PR territory on pulling work. Libido is even better. I spent about half my workout time checking out the females on the cardio machines. There were about 7 or 8 girls training today, and this is Texas, so they were all pretty hot. There is something in the water here. So I guess I'll have to mark today as the first day my sex drive was over the top. Been waiting for this!

Bodyweight jumped 10 lbs since...since yesterday. I can tell it is bloat from a dietary change. My head felt like it was going to explode, but blood pressure only ran 142/73, lower than it has been. My whole body was swollen. Wrists especially noticable.

January 17, 2005

Superdrol

Wow! Once again, I loaded my 30mg dose of Superdrol toward nighttime. The same effects occured again. Sleep pattern is recognizable at this point. Could have stayed in bed 10 hours. Same darn pattern.

Right now I am sitting here shaky and clammy as hell. Insane cns stimulation, shaking and sweating at the moment. It seems to start right as I am getting out of bed. Doesn't bother me at night so badly. This happens about 12-15 hours after dosing. The feeling I experience now will pass within a few hours.

What did I learn from this. It is definitely important to spread out the dosing as evenly as possible. I think it would be nice if it were given in 5mg doses instead of 10 like the 5mg M1T tablets. Makes a difference.

It is really an interesting experience testing out and learning new compounds.

January 18, 2005

Bodyweight: 253

HS Leg Curl 85x8, 85x9, 90x8, 95x5
Squats 225x2x8, 225x7
Leg Extensions/Leg Curls Did more

Workout Notes

This was one funky workout! First time seriously doing squats for quite awhile. Back felt decent. I have gained so much weight I couldn't seem to perform my usual squat motion. My hamstrings hit the back of my calves and my whole body felt tight. Didn't quite make depth but it wasn't because of lack of strength lol. Got a lot of work to do squatting assuming my back holds up to it.

I couldn't really do leg extensions because my legs would shake uncontrollably. It was wierd. I have experienced it before on leg press but never this bad. It is due to the androgens methinks. It is funny to watch.

Felt strong as an ox on leg curls and hit a few PR's.

Test E Notes

Okay. I think it is safe to assume that my 1 gram frontload worked! Since the 11th I am now bloated up to 253. That is up from a min. of 202.5 on December 25th. Needless to say, people are more than noticing. I can't cover up 50 lbs in less than a month. Until now I have played it off fairly well claiming honestly that I have been having trouble with my binging (true).

But today every person I saw commented on my unusual weight gain, my father most of all. So consequently I feel the need to reduce my calories somewhat for the next few days. I am starting back on a combo of Nolvadex and Letrozole to hopefully rid myself of the bloat. I am going to kill the Superdrol for a few days and use only M5AA to further reduce the bloat.

I am feeling the exact same side effects that I have noted in the past when my testosterone levels have been really high. This time they are all amplified. I can't complain!

The combo of Test E and SuperDrol has to be the equivalent of Dbol in terms of overall muscle pump/bloat. My flexibility is compromised to a much greater extent than I expected it would be.

Anyway, that was my day

January 9, 2005

Incline 200x3x5, 200x4, 200x3
CGBP 185x6, 175x8, 175x6
Extensions 35x2x10, 35x9, 60x9
HS Declines 120x11, 120x10, 120x8
Laterals 30x10, 30x8, 30x9

January 20, 2005

Incline 210x5, 220x4, 205x5
CGBP 185x9, 195x7, 195x7
DB OH Press 70x7, 65x9
Pushdowns 30x13, 40x5, 30x9, 30x2x7
HS Declines 120x15, 120x15
Laterals 30x2x12
Machine Extensions/Crossovers 4 sets


Bodyweight: 248
Gut: looks like I have two of them now
Diet: Yes, I am eating

Notes

Stronger, much stronger. I had help from Drol, M5AA and the Test E frontload so that explains the gains. Feels good to be off the Drol. Sweating and clamminess has decreased quite a bit. Heart arrhythmia is still there and very noticable. It is due more to my extreme eating I think than anything else. A blessing and a curse that most of my problems seem to be diet related.

My body temperature still feels elevated and now I can distinguish more clearly those effects that are from Test E specifically. I am noticing a lot more acne. Libido still through the roof. Increased shedding of hair (upping dose of finasteride to accomodate). Muscle pump has diminished slightly but not much. It is cool feeling a massive pump in my neck after benching lol.

I now can feel the sense of well-being from the testosterone also. I can stop what I am doing, relax and feel good about the world and overall happy. All emotions are still amplified considerably. I feel a greater sense of caring/aggression etc....I could go on and on.

I am going to have to be really careful to keep from further injuring myself. I was laying back to do dumbbell flies when I felt a little pop in my neck for no reason at all. So I switched exercises. Just have to be careful on androgens and really attentive to small details. And to large details. No more leg press for me.

Damn, impressive gains after 11 days. I like how you post your previous workout's results. That's a good idea.

Thanks! Having that base of testosterone under the prohormones seems to really jack up strength and size. I got the posting idea from Brian (b5150) over at Avant labs and Anabolicminds. That is how he structured his SuperDrol feedback log when it was being beta tested. So I just stole the idea and will probably keep doing it. Makes it easy to keep up with gains.