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And you are the only one with the skin of a 14 year old.

They're beauty spots, actually.

Yesterday was a total off day, except for the bowling last night (where i set a new PB )

Yesterday and today have been really harsh for hunger control. I'v not broken diet, but it's been hard. I'm definately carb loading tomorrow night. No ifs or buts about it. It's something i need.

Training today has been a welcome distraction and a brilliant hunger blunter. Of course give me a few hours and i'll be ravenous. Strength wasn't really there today, and i finally found out that my overhand grip limit clocks off at about 170k or so (with straps). Although that was after a set of 8 reps with 165k, so there may be a bit left in me yet. However, despite that, i still managed to pull off a good session using drop sets and what not.

Workout summary:

Quads: 6 sets.
Hams: 5 sets.

Then a 20 minute powerwalk on the tready.

Out of interest, is there anything people want me to log more detailed or such? I'm just curious because i rarely get asked about anything and i'm pretty sure i don't know absolutely everything about everything. Just let me know and i'll fill you in.

No thanks.

Thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Question for ya Rob, exactly what type of diet are you on, Carb Cycling or Keto. I know you mentioned earlier that you were using high/low carb cycling but just wondered if you were following a specific diet plan or modifying to meet your needs.

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

No thanks.

Cute.

Originally Posted by bludevil

Thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Question for ya Rob, exactly what type of diet are you on, Carb Cycling or Keto. I know you mentioned earlier that you were using high/low carb cycling but just wondered if you were following a specific diet plan or modifying to meet your needs.

Actually no mate, i'm not doing any sort of low carb or carb cycling. I've kept my carbs up actually, in the 280-300g region. Tomorrow will mark only my second carb load, and it'll be over about 3-4 hours, so i can only manage about 400g carbs in that session.

Protein is around the 300g mark and i've been making dietary amendments every week apart from last Sunday. I'll weigh myself tomorrow to see how things are going before tomorrow night's carb load. The next "official" weigh in for the comp is next Sunday. Pics taken on saturday afternoon for checkpoint two.

I can't remember exactly, but i may have made note somewhere in this journal that i'm gonna play around with low/high carb days, but since i now have some T3, i'm not so sure.

That help clarify?

Thanks for the question.

Yeah, you summed it up. I'll be interested to see your weight checkpoints given the T3 and consumption of 300g of carbs. Have you ever taken T3 before. If so, what results did you see. Just curious because carbs seem fairly high to be on a cut. You thinking of stacking T3 with Hoodia later in the diet.

So you are consuming about 2800 calories on protein and carbs? What about fat? I would never drop fat at that level, even if fat was zero.

Also, I dropped a pound today; I will probably do my checkpoint measurments and pictures a few days early or a few days late -- I won't be around this weekend.

Originally Posted by bludevil

Yeah, you summed it up. I'll be interested to see your weight checkpoints given the T3 and consumption of 300g of carbs. Have you ever taken T3 before. If so, what results did you see. Just curious because carbs seem fairly high to be on a cut. You thinking of stacking T3 with Hoodia later in the diet.

The carbs are being taken out most weeks, remember. Bit by bit.

Yes, i used T3 last easter for about 3 weeks at a mild dose while i was using ONE. Overall, no huge change in bf loss, though i did see some muscle gain. there seemed to be a nice synergistic effect from the T3 and 1T.

Probably no hoodia, no. I use nicotine and eph for appetite/hunger. Nor can i really afford anymore supplements at this stage.

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

So you are consuming about 2800 calories on protein and carbs? What about fat? I would never drop fat at that level, even if fat was zero.

When i first started the diet 4 weeks back i was around 3100kcals. I've been making amendments each week so i'm probably between 2900-3000kcals now. Fat seems to still be coming off, albeit slower than it was at first. But that's to be expected.

After this week, i'm gonna shift the carb loads a bit closer together. So i've gone from doing them once a fortnight, so about once every ten days. Next time i'll probably do one after 8 days. After that, by week 6 or so, i'll be doing them once a week. This is also when i start the T3.

Trained shoulders and tris this evening, and threw some abs in to boot.

Workout summary:

Delts: 8 sets.
Tris: 6 sets.
Abs: 3 sets.

This AM i weighed in half a lb lighter than Sunday, so i gotta drop another half lb by Sunday to meet my second checkpoint. That shouldn't be a problem.

I've started my carb load after training (current), although i have started it a bit late at night (8:30ish). I'll still manage to get down a decent 3-400g carbs before midnight though. I may have to economise in places however. I may go and buy myself some lucozade or something. I don't want to tempt myself with the sweets at the shop, however. Definately not during a carb load anyway.

just checkin up on yall suckas

It's going all gravy, baby.

Back this afternoon. Progressively, it was a good workout, and i did some deadlifts for a bit fun instead of rack pulls (managed 205k [451lbs] for a single too, and that's without properly deadlifting for ages). However, it didn't "feel" productive, if you know what i mean?

Workout summary:

Back: 8 sets.
Erectors: 3 sets (1 set being the single).
Traps: 2 sets.

Then did a 15 minute powerwalk on the tready.

Just about to put checkpoint 2 progress pics up on Avant. Checkpoint 2 stats will be taken and posted tomorrow. I only had half a lb to drop between Thursday morning and Sunday morning, so i'm quietly confident i've met my deadline.

Forgot to mention, i've started LipoDerm-Y Ultra (1 sq per pec and 1 sq either side of my navel) and SesaThin (starting at 2 caps/day) also.

Starting to feel flat again already. Today's workout was meh. Thought i'd tugged my left delt again pushed myself too hard on the incline smith press, but it seems alright now. Obviously still not 100%.

Workout summary:

Chest: 9 sets.
Biceps: 6 sets.

15 minute power walk on the tready afterwards.

Went to bed quite late/early this morning also. Was at my mates house playing on Athens 2004, Smackdown Vs. Raw and Pro Evo 4 for a good 6 hours last night.

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

So you are consuming about 2800 calories on protein and carbs? What about fat? I would never drop fat at that level, even if fat was zero.

Also, I dropped a pound today; I will probably do my checkpoint measurments and pictures a few days early or a few days late -- I won't be around this weekend.

Ok, just took the time to work out how many calories i'm on right now after all my dietary amendments over the past four weeks. My current numbers are:

230C
305P
57F

(Not exact mind you) So my calories are approx. 2650kcals at present. My current bodyweight is 217lbs (as of this AM), which means i'm on just slightly over 12kcals per lb, which is ideal so soon into a diet.

Shoulders-50 1/4"
Chest-42 3/4"
Arms-14 3/4"
Forearms-12 1/4"
Abdomen-32 7/8"
Waist-33 1/2"
Hips-38 1/4"
Thighs-24"
Calves-16 3/8"

Skinfolds

Chest-5mm
Abd-25mm-This is becoming easier to grab so I don't imagine it will move much in the next couple of weeks.
Thigh-5mm

Weight-209lbs unofficial-I used my roommates scale instead of the one at the gym, I will hit that one up tomorrow.

Here are som epics. I am very disappointed in these. I did eat like an asshole the last 2 days so it is to be expected.

I am posting 2 leg shots I took a few weeks ago as well.

aight fella's, chime in and let us inquiring minds know how it's going

Trained thighs today. Strength was alright, but the stamina just wasn't there. I was back at Uni today also, which has effected my day somewhat. I am really starting feel like i'm dieting now, and it sucks. It's getting to the stage where the taste of plain oats or rice is becoming near euphoric.

I'm scheduling a carb load for this weekend. I reckon i may do it on Friday night after back training. That would mean 8 days between then and my last carb load which is about right. I'd then plan another for 8 days after that on the saturday before the frequency of them increases to 6-7 days apart.

I've worked out that if i'm around 12%bf like i think i am, dropping another 8lbs would make me about 8%, which would suit me fine by week 10. However, i have a feeling to make that i'll have to do up to 12 weeks, so we'll see (Currently in week 5 remember).

Workout summary:

Quads: 9 sets.
Hams: 4 sets.

A 15 minute powerwalk on the tready afterwards.

I started my volume phase today. Nice change of pace, really. I had a pretty crappy weekend, but an ultra-tight day yesterday righted this lypolytic ship. After today even tigher (lower calorie) day, I should be shedding fat faster than Oprah before her wedding day. I even tightened my belt an extra notch today (that is two notches since this started).

In total, I am down (in 4 weeks) about 11 pounds, and 2 inches on the gut. I want more -- I still am fat. I will be posting pics (taken yesterday) on Avant tonight; and I have already posted my updated stats.

Tis all.

I only realised on Sunday night, but if my love handles were tighter, i'd probably have a 2" smaller waist.

IF.

Pics are up, lovehandles blow yours away.

Ha. Yeah, "if".

Had a strange session today because unlike the weekend where my chest and back were stronger but i didn't "feel" like i'd had a productive workout, today my strength was down and yet i'm really pleased with the workout i had. Go figure.

I've been swamped the past two days with Uni work that's due in on Friday morning. I've still got loads to go. Looks like i'll be pulling a late one tonight.

Workout Summary:

Delts: 9 sets.
Triceps: 7 sets.
Abs: 4 sets.

Hopefully i'll get enough work done tomorrow so i can go to the gym and do some sort of cardio business. Looks like friday night will be my carb load evening. I need it, but i'm dreading it.

Hows the strength? Post the weights you guys have been using pre cut to post cut.

Good question. For me, its holding up rather nicely. For example:

.....................week 1............week 4
pullups...............6....................9
barbell rows.....205 x 11......225 x 10
Incline Bench....225 x 16.....225 x 15
barbell curls.....135 x 11......135 x 8

That was during my intensity phase (to failure and beyond). This week I began my volume phase, so I will not be training to failure (and thus getting less reps than if I was).