Pirate's First AAS Cycle.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 10:11 PM

Sub-Q. Can't feel a thing. Maybe if I shot it right into the testes....

gococksDJS · 01-11-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Sub-Q. Can't feel a thing. Maybe if I shot it right into the testes....

mmm, now that would feel nice. Cycle looks quite impressive so far man.

V Player · 01-11-2005, 10:25 PM

This is gettin better as the day goes by......

A 1000 calorie chinese dinner........wow.

Cardinal · 01-11-2005, 10:29 PM

Glad to see you keeping a log of this one Pirate! I thought I was the only one logging a first AAS cycle starting up New Year's. Looks like you are a few weeks ahead of me given that the Test has already kicked in.

What signs did you notice telling you the Test had kicked in? Did you mainly notice the libido increase or were there quite a few other things as well?

I think you are making the right decision to bump calories. Since you already have experienced the initial big weight jump from the Dbol, I think the rest will likely come on at a more moderate pace. Keeping the cals and protein up will give it the substrate it needs.

Injections are fun aren't they? I am finally getting to the point where I masochistically look forward to them. Everyone said I would but I didn't believe it. That will all change when I hit a nerve though, lol.

Good luck and I'll be watching this one.

-Cardinal

Purdue Power · 01-11-2005, 11:08 PM

I always injected my HCG like you would HGH, in the fat of my stomach. There was hardly any feeling at all from it.

19-chief · 01-12-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

Injections are fun aren't they? I am finally getting to the point where I masochistically look forward to them. Everyone said I would but I didn't believe it. That will all change when I hit a nerve though, lol.

we'll see... i don't want to beleive that either, yet.

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Originally Posted by PurduePower

I always injected my HCG like you would HGH, in the fat of my stomach. There was hardly any feeling at all from it.

so, i'm guessing it can can be sub-q anywhere? how deep is sub-q... 1/4"??? 1/2"???

gococksDJS · 01-12-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

I always injected my HCG like you would HGH, in the fat of my stomach. There was hardly any feeling at all from it.

subQ is the way to go...

**Pirate!** · 01-12-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

What signs did you notice telling you the Test had kicked in? Did you mainly notice the libido increase or were there quite a few other things as well?

Increase in Libido to some degree, but a definite increase in aggression--not aggressive action, but aggressive potential. There are feelings of slight euphoria and serious rushes of adrenaline just from listening to music or other normal stimuli. You feel a little more invincible and ready to kick down doors and take out a handful of people if you had to (not that I would want to hurt people or act violent). Even when I am not horny, I think about women--and their bodies--a lot. I guess there is no simple way to explain, but you know when it is there. Unfortunately, sometimes I get real impatient very easy, and have to strive to not act like a jerk. This is rare, but very pronounced when it happens.

**Pirate!** · 01-12-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

Injections are fun aren't they? I am finally getting to the point where I masochistically look forward to them. Everyone said I would but I didn't believe it. That will all change when I hit a nerve though, lol.

I do look forward to them, but not so I can hurt myself.

Luke9583 · 01-12-2005, 11:58 AM

I bet that chinese dinner had 4g of sodium

Flex · 01-12-2005, 12:00 PM

That's the first cycle i ever ran, bro, and damn was it fun

What kind of test/dbol you runnin'?

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I just finished a Chinese dinner that must have been in excess of 1000 calories and I'm eating a Hershey's bar right now.

I've decided that I must raise my caloric intake.

Good idea in bumping up the cals. EAT EAT EAT is the best advice for ya. Just make sure to keep those cals high when you come off, that's where most people go wrong. They drop cals way too low, and you lose alot of that weight, so keep 'em up.

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Libido is fluctuating a lot. The 2 mg/day of finasteride may be a factor.

Man, my libido was to the moon when i was on that cycle, esp. after i worked out. I'd have a raging sex drive on my way home from the gym, due to the crazy pumps and all the test and endorphins flying through my body.

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

The Sustanon doesn't seem to be as anabolic as I would prefer.

It probably seems that way cuz you are coming off the dbol. (i'm assuming). Once you drop that and are just on test it does seem like your cycle "downgrades" a tad, if you will.

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I will definitely need to cut for 10-14 days toward the end of my cycle.

Don't worry about cutting, bro. When you come off, you're gonna lose alot of weight already. You're bulking now, so take full advantage of it.

Since this is your first cycle, i'll warn you in advance. Coming off SUCKS. You gotta mentally prepare yourself for the loss in strength, and mainly size that you'll endure. You get so used to looking and feeling like Superman that when you come off, you forget that it was only a temporary thing.

Best of luck, brotha, and pm me if you have any q's...

FLEX

Flex · 01-12-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke9583

I bet that chinese dinner had 4g of sodium

so you're saying i shouldn't eat chinese almost every weekend?

1,000cals isn't even that much in one meal. Sometimes i almost top 2,000

PFH-EAT EAT EAT, bro

Flex · 01-12-2005, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

There are feelings of slight euphoria and serious rushes of adrenaline just from listening to music or other normal stimuli. You feel a little more invincible

Best way you can describe it is you feel like a million bucks, right?

redspy · 01-12-2005, 01:40 PM

Flex: What's you opinion on adding EQ to a test cycle - worth it?

DimebagDarrell · 01-12-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Increase in Libido to some degree, but a definite increase in aggression--not aggressive action, but aggressive potential. There are feelings of slight euphoria and serious rushes of adrenaline just from listening to music or other normal stimuli. You feel a little more invincible and ready to kick down doors and take out a handful of people if you had to (not that I would want to hurt people or act violent). Even when I am not horny, I think about women--and their bodies--a lot. I guess there is no simple way to explain, but you know when it is there. Unfortunately, sometimes I get real impatient very easy, and have to strive to not act like a jerk. This is rare, but very pronounced when it happens.

sounds like fun!

**Pirate!** · 01-12-2005, 05:07 PM

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What kind of test/dbol you runnin'?

British Dragon D-bol and Organon Sustonon 250 in amps.

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Man, my libido was to the moon when i was on that cycle

Yeah, my libido has been real high most of the time. I almost started a thread just to ask advice about how to dampen the libido since I was becoming completely obssesed. Of course, having it frequently makes things much better.

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It probably seems that way cuz you are coming off the dbol. (i'm assuming). Once you drop that and are just on test it does seem like your cycle "downgrades" a tad, if you will.

This is exactly the situation. I wish I could just stay on the d-bol. I'm surprised that test without the d-bol hasn't yielded more mass, but I guess I'll just be patient.

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1,000cals isn't even that much in one meal. Sometimes i almost top 2,000

I've done this a lot with the holidays. The first three weeks of my cycle I was out of school with family in town, and ate and ate and ate... It was amazing that I put on almost no fat.

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Don't worry about cutting, bro. When you come off, you're gonna lose alot of weight already. You're bulking now, so take full advantage of it.

I'm not sure what I am going to do about this. I'll be doing PCT around Spring Break time, and have extra fat at the wrong time of year. I lose muscle real easy when cutting, too. If I did it close to the end of the cycle, I think I could be happy with my bf level. We will see

Thanks for all the solid advice, Flex.

I'm Trying · 01-12-2005, 05:12 PM

Damn I wish I seen this journal earlier. Good luck on this bro. I'm going to be checking back often. It looks very interesting.

DimebagDarrell · 01-12-2005, 05:20 PM

Pie Rat, how much is this cycle costing you? ($$ wise)

Flex · 01-12-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

British Dragon D-bol and Organon Sustonon 250 in amps.

I ran russian dbols, and i swear those hafta be teh best ever. I felt them the first day, literally hours after i ingested. And I ran Organon my 2nd time (by itself). IMO, and my buddies, its the best sust you can get.

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Yeah, my libido has been real high most of the time. I almost started a thread just to ask advice about how to dampen the libido since I was becoming completely obssesed. Of course, having it frequently makes things much better.

No SHIT, bro, huh? Most of the time i thought my libido was TOO high. It sucked i didn't have a gf at the time, cuz she woulda loved me, but at the same time, i woulda prob. put her in the hospital for a week cuz she couldn't walk.

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

This is exactly the situation. I wish I could just stay on the d-bol. I'm surprised that test without the d-bol hasn't yielded more mass, but I guess I'll just be patient.

dbol does that to ya. I know it sucks, cuz you just wanna stay on, but thats part of the cycle, bro. Besides, the dbol is all waterweight anyway. you'll actually prob. lose some weight for a few weeks coming off teh dbol cuz you lose all that excess water.
No wonder why Arnie and his cronies all loved BB, right? they ate SO much dbol

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I've done this a lot with the holidays. The first three weeks of my cycle I was out of school with family in town, and ate and ate and ate... It was amazing that I put on almost no fat.

atta boy...EAT EAT EAT

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I'm not sure what I am going to do about this. I'll be doing PCT around Spring Break time, and have extra fat at the wrong time of year. I lose muscle real easy when cutting, too. If I did it close to the end of the cycle, I think I could be happy with my bf level. We will see

Like i said, don't worry about cutting yet. How much time you got left on cycle?

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Thanks for all the solid advice, Flex.

You got it, brotha. Glad i could be of service

FLEX

Purdue Power · 01-12-2005, 05:54 PM

My stuff will be in this Friday. I've got a ton of Dbol already, and the Sust and some Winny are on the way. I will prob start next Monday or so. I will probably start my own journal. Sorry to have mine going when your's is, Pirate. I will have a link to your's in my signature while I am running mine.

PreMier · 01-12-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 19-chief

so, i'm guessing it can can be sub-q anywhere? how deep is sub-q... 1/4"??? 1/2"???

http://www.hopkins-arthritis.com/cor...wtoinject.html

**Pirate!** · 01-12-2005, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

I will probably start my own journal. Sorry to have mine going when your's is, Pirate.

Definitely start a journal. Start it from the begining like my lazy ass should have. Gococks will be running a cycle similar to yours pretty soon, too. I suppose he will start one as well.

LAM · 01-12-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 19-chief

we'll see... i don't want to beleive that either, yet.

so, i'm guessing it can can be sub-q anywhere? how deep is sub-q... 1/4"??? 1/2"???

an 1" to the left or right of the navel is the spot. inj at a 90 degree angle with a 29g - 1/2" slin pin and burry it then inject

JerseyDevil · 01-12-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex

dbol does that to ya. I know it sucks, cuz you just wanna stay on, but thats part of the cycle, bro. Besides, the dbol is all waterweight anyway. you'll actually prob. lose some weight for a few weeks coming off teh dbol cuz you lose all that excess water. No wonder why Arnie and his cronies all loved BB, right? they ate SO much dbol

Boy I agree with that Flex. Dbol rocks, no doubt.

01-11-2005, 10:25 PM	#63
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01-11-2005, 10:29 PM	#64
Cardinal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,009	Glad to see you keeping a log of this one Pirate! I thought I was the only one logging a first AAS cycle starting up New Year's. Looks like you are a few weeks ahead of me given that the Test has already kicked in. What signs did you notice telling you the Test had kicked in? Did you mainly notice the libido increase or were there quite a few other things as well? I think you are making the right decision to bump calories. Since you already have experienced the initial big weight jump from the Dbol, I think the rest will likely come on at a more moderate pace. Keeping the cals and protein up will give it the substrate it needs. Injections are fun aren't they? I am finally getting to the point where I masochistically look forward to them. Everyone said I would but I didn't believe it. That will all change when I hit a nerve though, lol. Good luck and I'll be watching this one. -Cardinal

01-12-2005, 05:20 PM	#78
DimebagDarrell Cutting sucks. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 774 Photos: 4	Pie Rat, how much is this cycle costing you? ($$ wise)
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01-12-2005, 05:54 PM	#80
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	My stuff will be in this Friday. I've got a ton of Dbol already, and the Sust and some Winny are on the way. I will prob start next Monday or so. I will probably start my own journal. Sorry to have mine going when your's is, Pirate. I will have a link to your's in my signature while I am running mine.
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