Pirate's First AAS Cycle.

**Pirate!** · 01-10-2005, 08:04 PM

I'll skip the boring stuff and get straight to it. I am now 4 weeks into my first AAS cycle. The basics are as follows:

Week 1-12 Sustanon 500 mg/week (2 x 250)
Week 1-4 D-bol 25 mg/day (12.5 x 2)
Week 2-13.5 HCG 500 iu/week (250 x2)

PCT will be with Nolva for 5 weeks starting 15 days after last Test shot.

I began at 153 lbs, got up to 172 lbs, then lost 4 lbs after getting off the D-bol and no longer Holiday eating.

Creatine Mono works well for me, so I ran it from day one. I discovered that with the D-bol the pumps were too much and my lower back couldn't hack it, so I stopped the creatine and the problem was solved. Before getting off the creatine, I had gained 18 lbs in 18 days.

When the Sustanon finally kicked in around day 25, I had a gyno scare about 2 hours after popping a D-bol. Took 2.5 mg femera and 80 grams of nolva and the problem disappeared. Now I take 20 mg nolva a day as a precaution and occasionally I'll take about 4 drops of femera. Taking Femera when you don't need it will kill your libido, BTW.

I've tried to be conservative with the HCG usage. I examine the nads a few times a day. I usually don't go more than 4 days without, though.

I gave up on glute shots after the first one. I like the delts and thighs. 25 g 1" works fine. The 1.5" just did more damage to my thighs.

Tonight, I shot too close to the knee slightly toward the inner thigh, and I'm pretty sure I hit connective tissue.

Not pleasant.

Now that the D-bol is out of my system, I've started creatine--as of today. Hopefully, it will be beneficial. I've also ordered CEE, and may try it on cycle.

I'll post picks in about a month.

Well, I could

for ever, but I just thought I should get off my lazy ass and start this journal since a handful of my IM Bros have been asking. I know a lot of you would like to start your first AAS cycle soon, and I hope the lessons I learn along the way can be useful to you.

BTW, Have at least two girlfriends or one Super-freak before starting a cycle of Test.

Du · 01-10-2005, 08:27 PM

Hell ya boss. Looks good. 18 pounds in 18 days? Thats fucking insane, congrats.

How are the workouts comin along? Any other supps besides the ones you listed?

Keep it up, seriously. Keep us posted.

Twin Peak · 01-10-2005, 08:38 PM

Nice journal. Do you have before pics?

**Pirate!** · 01-10-2005, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

How are the workouts comin along? Any other supps besides the ones you listed?

Workouts are great. I'm constantly gaining strength. I take a multi-v, vit-e, ALA, Gluc/Chodr, Milk Thistle, flax/fish oil, green tea, maybe a few others...ALCAR pre-workout...

**Pirate!** · 01-10-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Nice journal. Do you have before pics?

They are on my computer, which is in the shop.

Twin Peak · 01-10-2005, 08:44 PM

That's cool, we don't need em until the end.

DimebagDarrell · 01-10-2005, 08:47 PM

good luck Pie Rat

redspy · 01-10-2005, 08:59 PM

Great gains Pirate. I'm subscribing to this thread and will be following your progress closely. Good luck!

PreMier · 01-10-2005, 09:05 PM

Good luck.

BigDyl · 01-10-2005, 09:51 PM

Your a beast man. Please port your workouts dude, I can't wait to see them.

gococksDJS · 01-10-2005, 10:11 PM

Looks good man. Im starting a test cyp/dbol/winny cycle in about 3 weeks.

DOMS · 01-10-2005, 10:21 PM

18 pounds in 18 days?! Maybe you should take gococksDJS' avatar.

Are you having any problems with stretch marks? If so, are you doing anything to combat them?

Thanks and congrats!

LAM · 01-11-2005, 12:13 AM

looks good.

a word of warning about using AAS. beware of increasing your working loads when it comes to the shoulders. very easy to injury the tendons and ligaments of the shoulder girddle...

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Your a beast man. Please port your workouts dude, I can't wait to see them.

I cycle the number of sets, reps, and rest time by a method too tedious to detail here. This is what I will do today:

Chest/Shoulder/ABS Day:

3 x 12 Leg Raises
3 x 20; 50 lbs. Weighted Floor Crunches
3 x 12; 30 lbs. Swiss Ball Crunches
2 x 15; 50 lbs. Oblique Raises
5 x 4-7; 185 lbs. Bench
5 x 4-7; 140 lbs. Incline Bench
5 x 4-7; 165 lbs. Cable Flies
5 x 4-7; 120 lbs. Shoulder Press on Smith
5 x 4-7; 25 lbs. Side Latterals.

5 sets of each exercise is the highest I go, and 4 reps is the heaviest I go. When off cycle, I don't stay at this phase for long.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfs3

Are you having any problems with stretch marks? If so, are you doing anything to combat them?

The creatine and d-bol combo gave me insane pumps that started to stretch my skin across the biceps area. The pumps became manageable after cutting out the creatine, and it doesn't appear that any permanent stretch marks will remain--although I could see were they were beginning.

Du · 01-11-2005, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

The creatine and d-bol combo gave me insane pumps that started to stretch my skin across the biceps area. The pumps became manageable after cutting out the creatine, and it doesn't appear that any permanent stretch marks will remain--although I could see were they were beginning.

Theyre a badge of honor anyway. You worked hard for 'em.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 08:32 AM

Strangely, I'm loosing fat. I do about 20 minutes of moderate intensity cardio right after lifting, before pwo shake, about 5 days a week. This is just to keep fat in check since I am eating so much.

The following is a rough outline of my calorie consumption:

Pre-WO Meal: 140 g carbs, 47 g protein
Post-WO: 140 g carbs, 47 g protein
3rd Meal: 90 g carbs, 60 g protein
4th Meal: 90 g carbs, 60 g protein
5th Meal: 30 g carbs, 45 g protein

Fat isn't counted, but I keep it on the lower side. I take Flax or Fish Oil and often eat a couple spoons of natty peanut butter or some almonds. I get a lot of my protein from meat and cheese, so there is a fair amount of fat there, but I go for the leaner choices. I'm getting a minimum of 4,000 calories a day, sometimes between 5-6,000.

I weigh 167 lbs. this morning and hope to weigh 172 this time next week after the creatine kicks in.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

Theyre a badge of honor anyway. You worked hard for 'em.

Is that what you tell women who don't wan't to wear a two-peice after having children?

Du · 01-11-2005, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Is that what you tell women who don't won't to wear a two-peice after having children?

Thats a different case.

You lift hard and dedicate a lot to the gym. Big difference.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 08:42 AM

I presume there are topical creams or something that might help with stretch marks. I'd rather avoid them if possible. The only place I have them now is right where my upper peck meets the armpit. Well, I have some around the love handle area from 10 years ago when I thought that being a senior in HS meant drinking a case of beer for breakfast. Gained 30 lbs of fat my senior year.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

very easy to injury the tendons and ligaments of the shoulder girddle...

Injury to connective tissue has been my main concern. I originally planned to run Deca, but bagged it so I could see how I reacted to just test. I tore a tendon in my leg really bad this last summer, and I've had shoulder problems before. I do rotator cuff exercises, and I am trying to be particularly careful with my form. I'm also taking glucosamine/chondroitin twice daily. I'm not sure what else to do to prevent injury--other than listen to my body. But, I had no idea that my tendon in my leg was about to almost completely detach from my pelvis and put a rip in my abs on it's way out.

Don't think I've done leg press since--or ever will.

BigDyl · 01-11-2005, 09:33 AM

Keep it up man, everything is look great.

gococksDJS · 01-11-2005, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I presume there are topical creams or something that might help with stretch marks. I'd rather avoid them if possible. The only place I have them now is right where my upper peck meets the armpit. Well, I have some around the love handle area from 10 years ago when I thought that being a senior in HS meant drinking a case of beer for breakfast. Gained 30 lbs of fat my senior year.

the stretch mark creams are expensive as shit, but usually a little cocoa butter can help.

**Pirate!** · 01-11-2005, 11:57 AM

Maybe I'll try cocoa butter.

I forgot to mention that I've been taking 2 Lipo-6 liquid caps pre-workout for over a week now. I think that it is boosting my metabolism and causing less water retention.

DOMS · 01-11-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Injury to connective tissue has been my main concern. I originally planned to run Deca, but bagged it so I could see how I reacted to just test. I tore a tendon in my leg really bad this last summer, and I've had shoulder problems before. I do rotator cuff exercises, and I am trying to be particularly careful with my form. I'm also taking glucosamine/chondroitin twice daily. I'm not sure what else to do to prevent injury--other than listen to my body. But, I had no idea that my tendon in my leg was about to almost completely detach from my pelvis and put a rip in my abs on it's way out.

Don't think I've done leg press since--or ever will.

Try taking some MSM. It's supposed help with connective tissue.

Here are a couple of links:

http://www.gout-treatment.com/what_is_inflam_med.html
http://www.organicfood.co.uk/vms/glucosaminemsm.html (scoll down a bit)

Purdue Power · 01-11-2005, 01:46 PM

I subscribed too. I was one of the handful that was bugging him on his progress.

01-10-2005, 08:04 PM	#1
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,767	Pirate's First AAS Cycle. I'll skip the boring stuff and get straight to it. I am now 4 weeks into my first AAS cycle. The basics are as follows: Week 1-12 Sustanon 500 mg/week (2 x 250) Week 1-4 D-bol 25 mg/day (12.5 x 2) Week 2-13.5 HCG 500 iu/week (250 x2) PCT will be with Nolva for 5 weeks starting 15 days after last Test shot. I began at 153 lbs, got up to 172 lbs, then lost 4 lbs after getting off the D-bol and no longer Holiday eating. Creatine Mono works well for me, so I ran it from day one. I discovered that with the D-bol the pumps were too much and my lower back couldn't hack it, so I stopped the creatine and the problem was solved. Before getting off the creatine, I had gained 18 lbs in 18 days. When the Sustanon finally kicked in around day 25, I had a gyno scare about 2 hours after popping a D-bol. Took 2.5 mg femera and 80 grams of nolva and the problem disappeared. Now I take 20 mg nolva a day as a precaution and occasionally I'll take about 4 drops of femera. Taking Femera when you don't need it will kill your libido, BTW. I've tried to be conservative with the HCG usage. I examine the nads a few times a day. I usually don't go more than 4 days without, though. I gave up on glute shots after the first one. I like the delts and thighs. 25 g 1" works fine. The 1.5" just did more damage to my thighs. Tonight, I shot too close to the knee slightly toward the inner thigh, and I'm pretty sure I hit connective tissue. Not pleasant. Now that the D-bol is out of my system, I've started creatine--as of today. Hopefully, it will be beneficial. I've also ordered CEE, and may try it on cycle. I'll post picks in about a month. Well, I could for ever, but I just thought I should get off my lazy ass and start this journal since a handful of my IM Bros have been asking. I know a lot of you would like to start your first AAS cycle soon, and I hope the lessons I learn along the way can be useful to you. BTW, Have at least two girlfriends or one Super-freak before starting a cycle of Test.

01-10-2005, 08:27 PM	#2
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	Hell ya boss. Looks good. 18 pounds in 18 days? Thats fucking insane, congrats. How are the workouts comin along? Any other supps besides the ones you listed? Keep it up, seriously. Keep us posted.
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01-10-2005, 08:59 PM	#8
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01-10-2005, 09:05 PM	#9
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01-11-2005, 12:13 AM	#13
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