Stus MDien Cycle

Stu · 01-31-2005, 09:46 AM

Just a basic log of my MDien cycle for anyone that might be interested

Aim of cycle: to lose body fat while maintaining current weight

CYCLE:

wk1: MD 12mg
wk2: MD 16mg
wk3: MD 16mg

may do another week depending on sides

PCT:

wk1: Novla 40mg
wk2: Nolva 30mg
wk3: Nolva 20mg

Additional Sups: L-Arginine, Now Foods Liver Support, Now Foods Super Antioxidants

STATS:

Height: 5'8
Current weight: 172lbs
Bodyfat: 14-15%

TARGET:

Height 6'0 (j/k

)
Weight: 174lbs
Bodyfat: 11%

Current Cals 3500+ tapering down to 3000 by the end of the cycle

Training Split - HIT

Monday: Chest, Tris, Bis

Wednesday: Back

Friday: Legs, Shoulders

Sat: Core, Abs, Cardio

Stu · 01-31-2005, 09:50 AM

Trained chest, bis, tris today. Gym was pretty much empty so got a free personal training session from one of the guys who works there. He absolutely killed me on the dips.

Recovery seems to have improved a bit but nothing significant to report yet.

Luke9583 · 01-31-2005, 09:56 AM

I ran one cycle at 8-12mg. I think 16 might be alittle high man. G'luck with the cycle though. You're goals like VERY acheivable.

Robboe · 01-31-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu21Ldn

STATS:

Height: 5'8
Current weight: 172lbs
Bodyfat: 14-15%

TARGET:

Height 6'0 (j/k

)
Weight: 174lbs
Bodyfat: 11%

Not trying to sound the pessimist here, but based on your targets, you want to drop 5lbs of fat while adding 7lbs of LBM. I'm not sure i see you dropping the fat on over 3000kcals over three weeks.

But good luck in trying all the same. This'll work more as a recomp which is a good thing.

Stu · 01-31-2005, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

I ran one cycle at 8-12mg. I think 16 might be alittle high man. G'luck with the cycle though. You're goals like VERY acheivable.

There are guys on AM running higher doses for longer than me but if you think 16s too high ill stick at 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Not trying to sound the pessimist here, but based on your targets, you want to drop 5lbs of fat while adding 7lbs of LBM. I'm not sure i see you dropping the fat on over 3000kcals over three weeks.

But good luck in trying all the same. This'll work more as a recomp which is a good thing.

3000 cals is about maintanence for me do you think it would be worth aiming for a bit lower than that?

Robboe · 01-31-2005, 10:37 AM

Your maintenance level is 17kcals/lb BW?

Jesus H. Christ on a moped driving through Brixton in a KKK outfit. You must have some badass partitioning. You musta really let yourself slip to get up to 14-15%!

If that is true what you say, then just ignore me and go for it.

Luke9583 · 01-31-2005, 10:38 AM

You won't add 7lbs of LBM, but you'll hit your target weight. The goal looks realistic to me.

Stu · 01-31-2005, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Your maintenance level is 17kcals/lb BW?

Jesus H. Christ on a moped driving through Brixton in a KKK outfit. You must have some badass partitioning. You musta really let yourself slip to get up to 14-15%!

If that is true what you say, then just ignore me and go for it.

Beer, pizza and xmas is what helped to get me to 14-15%

lol Ive had to walk to the underground station in brixton at about 5am its not a nice place in the day, its even worse at night. Mind you some of Newcastle and Sunderland aint that great either.

Robboe · 01-31-2005, 10:44 AM

He wants to hit the target weight, but also reduce his bodyfat by 3-4%. That is what is not realistic in three weeks. At least not on MDien.

Robboe · 01-31-2005, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu21Ldn

Beer, pizza and xmas is what helped to get me to 14-15%

lol Ive had to walk to the underground station in brixton at about 5am its not a nice place in the day, its even worse at night. Mind you some of Newcastle and Sunderland aint that great either.

I don't know much about Scumderland really, other than they're all tramps.

There are about 7-8 really bad parts of Newcastle. I live in and around 4 of them.

Luke9583 · 01-31-2005, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

He wants to hit the target weight, but also reduce his bodyfat by 3-4%. That is what is not realistic in three weeks. At least not on MDien.

I'm saying he'll drop the fat, and hit the target weight (but with mostly water). It's up to him wether or not he builds the muscle.

Stu · 01-31-2005, 11:01 AM

Scumderland - You must be a newcastle fan

Be interesting so see if Bellamy is still on your books by the end of the day. I hear he just turned down the offer from the Brummies

Luke9583 · 01-31-2005, 11:03 AM

I am a newcastle fan.... and guiness

Stu · 01-31-2005, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

I am a newcastle fan.... and guiness

This is a cutting cycle mentioning the word guiness in my log again an il have to ban you

Luke9583 · 01-31-2005, 11:11 AM

mmmmm Guiness

That glass looks so lonely. We should fill it with that COLD stout

O ya, have a great cycle man

Robboe · 01-31-2005, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu21Ldn

Scumderland - You must be a newcastle fan

Be interesting so see if Bellamy is still on your books by the end of the day. I hear he just turned down the offer from the Brummies

Get serious, i'm not gonna have Newcastle as my location and be supporting the mackums.

Born and bread here.

Yeah, i hear he's hoping Celtic will come and get him on loan.

Stu · 01-31-2005, 01:45 PM

Half my families mackum. thankfully im from the better half. I was seeing a brough girl for a while, damn northern girls are goers! shame she was married

Robboe · 01-31-2005, 03:24 PM

Haha.

P.s. I hate half of you.

Stu · 02-01-2005, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Haha.

P.s. I hate half of you.

Yeah well i inherited the northern ability for drinking but i mananaged to avoid that accent

I can translate geordie into english quite well

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myself

Recovery seems to have improved a bit but nothing significant to report yet.

Gonna have to retract this statement recovery aint up at all. In fact chest and tris ache more than usual

Robboe · 02-01-2005, 05:37 PM

You'd have trouble interpretting my accent if i really turned it on.

Stu · 02-02-2005, 07:21 AM

Did back today, i think the stuff is starting to kick in seemed to be able to add a couple more reps on some exercises. nipples are a bit puffy today so i guess thats a sign that somethings happening

Stu · 02-03-2005, 09:15 AM

After feeling pretty good yesterday things kind of went down hill last night woke up feeling rough as hell this morning. I feel the likely hood of me chucking today is fairly high. I don't think the Mdien has anything to do with it but i do not feel well at all

Luke9583 · 02-03-2005, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu21Ldn

After feeling pretty good yesterday things kind of went down hill last night woke up feeling rough as hell this morning. I feel the likely hood of me chucking today is fairly high. I don't think the Mdien has anything to do with it but i do not feel well at all

If you have alot of drainage, sinus pressure and an iffy stomache.. that's a common symptom with MD and M1-t. Lower the dosage.

Stu · 02-03-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

If you have alot of drainage, sinus pressure and an iffy stomache.. that's a common symptom with MD and M1-t. Lower the dosage.

Yeah stomach is iffy, and i got a nice headache no sinus problems tho

Ill see how i feel by the end of the day if im still rough il drop it to 8mg. It seems a bit pointless being on cycle if i cant eat anything

Luke9583 · 02-03-2005, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu21Ldn

It seems a bit pointless being on cycle if i cant eat anything

Exactly! This was the problem i had with mD.

Higher Power MD?

Stu · 02-03-2005, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

Exactly! This was the problem i had with mD.

Higher Power MD?

no its UL

its not even really done anything for me either i know im only seven days in but still

Luke9583 · 02-03-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu21Ldn

no its UL

its not even really done anything for me either i know im only seven days in but still

With MD and M1t, I don't see any positive results until at least 18 days into the cycle. But the neusia and sinus effects hit me within the first day.

So that's another reason i'm on my last cycle. A cycle to me, means at least a month of feeling like I have the flu. And I still force myself to eat 4000cals

I'd rather have fun

01-31-2005, 09:46 AM	#1
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	Stus MDien Cycle Just a basic log of my MDien cycle for anyone that might be interested Aim of cycle: to lose body fat while maintaining current weight CYCLE: wk1: MD 12mg wk2: MD 16mg wk3: MD 16mg may do another week depending on sides PCT: wk1: Novla 40mg wk2: Nolva 30mg wk3: Nolva 20mg Additional Sups: L-Arginine, Now Foods Liver Support, Now Foods Super Antioxidants STATS: Height: 5'8 Current weight: 172lbs Bodyfat: 14-15% TARGET: Height 6'0 (j/k) Weight: 174lbs Bodyfat: 11% Current Cals 3500+ tapering down to 3000 by the end of the cycle Training Split - HIT Monday: Chest, Tris, Bis Wednesday: Back Friday: Legs, Shoulders Sat: Core, Abs, Cardio

01-31-2005, 09:50 AM	#2
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	Day 4 Trained chest, bis, tris today. Gym was pretty much empty so got a free personal training session from one of the guys who works there. He absolutely killed me on the dips. Recovery seems to have improved a bit but nothing significant to report yet. Last edited by stu21Ldn : 01-31-2005 at 10:00 AM.

01-31-2005, 09:56 AM	#3
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,379 Photos: 9	I ran one cycle at 8-12mg. I think 16 might be alittle high man. G'luck with the cycle though. You're goals like VERY acheivable.
	New goal for 2005, 190lbs @ 7% bf "She Blew my nose, and then she blew my mind"

01-31-2005, 10:37 AM	#6
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Your maintenance level is 17kcals/lb BW? Jesus H. Christ on a moped driving through Brixton in a KKK outfit. You must have some badass partitioning. You musta really let yourself slip to get up to 14-15%! If that is true what you say, then just ignore me and go for it.
	Being held down by The Man

01-31-2005, 10:38 AM	#7
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,379 Photos: 9	You won't add 7lbs of LBM, but you'll hit your target weight. The goal looks realistic to me.
	New goal for 2005, 190lbs @ 7% bf "She Blew my nose, and then she blew my mind"

01-31-2005, 10:44 AM	#9
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	He wants to hit the target weight, but also reduce his bodyfat by 3-4%. That is what is not realistic in three weeks. At least not on MDien.
	Being held down by The Man

01-31-2005, 11:01 AM	#12
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	Scumderland - You must be a newcastle fan Be interesting so see if Bellamy is still on your books by the end of the day. I hear he just turned down the offer from the Brummies

01-31-2005, 11:03 AM	#13
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,379 Photos: 9	I am a newcastle fan.... and guiness
	New goal for 2005, 190lbs @ 7% bf "She Blew my nose, and then she blew my mind"

01-31-2005, 11:11 AM	#15
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,379 Photos: 9	mmmmm Guiness That glass looks so lonely. We should fill it with that COLD stout O ya, have a great cycle man
	New goal for 2005, 190lbs @ 7% bf "She Blew my nose, and then she blew my mind"

01-31-2005, 01:45 PM	#17
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	Half my families mackum. thankfully im from the better half. I was seeing a brough girl for a while, damn northern girls are goers! shame she was married

01-31-2005, 03:24 PM	#18
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Haha. P.s. I hate half of you.
	Being held down by The Man

02-01-2005, 05:37 PM	#20
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	You'd have trouble interpretting my accent if i really turned it on.
	Being held down by The Man

02-02-2005, 07:21 AM	#21
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	Day 6 Did back today, i think the stuff is starting to kick in seemed to be able to add a couple more reps on some exercises. nipples are a bit puffy today so i guess thats a sign that somethings happening

02-03-2005, 09:15 AM	#22
Stu cooking up a storm Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,868 Photos: 1	Day 7 After feeling pretty good yesterday things kind of went down hill last night woke up feeling rough as hell this morning. I feel the likely hood of me chucking today is fairly high. I don't think the Mdien has anything to do with it but i do not feel well at all