snflwr77 journey to 1st figure competition

BritChick · 02-15-2005, 05:25 PM

Hi and good luck, progress pics looking awesome!

snflwr77 · 02-15-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BritChick

Hi and good luck, progress pics looking awesome!

Thank you!

Archangel · 02-15-2005, 08:21 PM

Your progressive pics are incredible. However, I didn't see anything really wrong before

You are a very attractive woman. Keep it up and post more pics as you progress!!!

snflwr77 · 02-15-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Your progressive pics are incredible. However, I didn't see anything really wrong before

You are a very attractive woman. Keep it up and post more pics as you progress!!!

Thank you very much.

**P-funk** · 02-16-2005, 04:24 AM

figure out why you need to know when your breathing rate goes up yet???

snflwr77 · 02-16-2005, 07:17 AM

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figure out why you need to know when your breathing rate goes up yet???

No. Do you have any insight? I will have to ask her today I guess.

**Jodi** · 02-16-2005, 09:49 AM

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The F&B Nazis are gonna come after ya if you aren't careful Jodi.

They already are

PFunk and I had a tiny little debate with Patyal and they are already talking about banning me

It would be one thing if I insulted her and was rude but I was polite. I guess you aren't allowed to have an opinion that differs from them or you are banned. Pathetic! No wonder why so many people hate Patyal.

JLB001 · 02-16-2005, 10:29 AM

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Thats good feedback. And its appreciated. I think they feel that I need all the help I can possibly get being I am soooo out of shape and didn't start training until 16 weeks out. I am really trying to find the right workout for me at this point. I will definitely take your questions into consideration! THANKS!

Too much in the excerise dept can lead to burn out. Rely more on your diet to get you were you need to be in the 16 weeks.

JLB001 · 02-16-2005, 10:30 AM

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They already are

PFunk and I had a tiny little debate with Patyal and they are already talking about banning me

It would be one thing if I insulted her and was rude but I was polite. I guess you aren't allowed to have an opinion that differs from them or you are banned. Pathetic! No wonder why so many people hate Patyal.

We still love you Jodi.

snflwr77 · 02-16-2005, 10:43 AM

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Too much in the excerise dept can lead to burn out. Rely more on your diet to get you were you need to be in the 16 weeks.

I thought I needed to be kicking my ass in the gym right now to get some more muscle mass...will backing off the lifting a bit still allow me to do that efficiently and in the time I need it to occur?

**P-funk** · 02-16-2005, 10:45 AM

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Too much in the excerise dept can lead to burn out. Rely more on your diet to get you were you need to be in the 16 weeks.

I agree.

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We still love you Jodi.

I love both Jodi(e)'s.

snflwr77 · 02-16-2005, 10:45 AM

I am sorry if my journal caused some issues on F&B.

In all honesty, I am a little shocked I didn't get banned from there after getting into it with some people too.

I am really at a loss. I just keep getting confused as to whose advice I should follow in order to achieve my goal.

**P-funk** · 02-16-2005, 10:46 AM

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I thought I needed to be kicking my ass in the gym right now to get some more muscle mass...will backing off the lifting a bit still allow me to do that efficiently and in the time I need it to occur?

you aren't going to add that much muscle while hypocaloric like this. Realistically you are atempting to maintain what you have (hopefully add a little) and lose fat.

**Jodi** · 02-16-2005, 10:47 AM

Lifting smart is the key here. More doesn't equal better. You need to build a bit of muscle but what you are doing now is only going to wear you out and you won't build mass.

**Jodi** · 02-16-2005, 10:48 AM

Thanks, I love you both too

**P-funk** · 02-16-2005, 10:49 AM

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I am really at a loss. I just keep getting confused as to whose advice I should follow in order to achieve my goal.

the best thing you can do is to follow ONE person. If there are to many cooks in the kitchen then you are just going to get messed up. You need to pick a person and stick it out. But, you also need to educate yourself on the topics of training and diet as much as possible and how the work together to achieve the results you are looking for, not just for contest but for overal life fitenss. No one here is telling you to leave your coach. People here all do things differently. We are just givning you things to think about and reasearch. Ask as many questions as you can and learn as much as possible. But, stick with one persons method when going to contest.

**Jodi** · 02-16-2005, 10:57 AM

True unless your coach is a complete moron.

Julz · 02-16-2005, 12:11 PM

Good luck here too! (hi everyone else!

)

**P-funk** · 02-16-2005, 12:22 PM

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Good luck here too! (hi everyone else!

)

LOL.....traitor!!!! I'm telling!!!

Julz · 02-16-2005, 01:19 PM

who? moi??

I've been here almost a year, so

I'm actually a double agent for another site

JLB001 · 02-16-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by snflwr77

I thought I needed to be kicking my ass in the gym right now to get some more muscle mass...will backing off the lifting a bit still allow me to do that efficiently and in the time I need it to occur?

Size/Mass comes in time.

Is this a workout you got from a trainer?
Its overkill to me. Yes, you do need more muscle mass in the upper body, but you can only gain so much in the time you have. You don't want to be spending no more than 45 mins to an hour in the gym lifting, then of coarse a lil longer when you add in the cardio afterwards.

The diet doesn't look bad to me, just the cottage cheese I would ditch the closer you get to the show. As tall as you are, the calories you can handle. In your before and now pics it looks like it is working for you.

JLB001 · 02-16-2005, 01:28 PM

What do you do for cardio?

snflwr77 · 02-16-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JLB001

What do you do for cardio?

I don't do any cardio. My coach doesn't want me to. Just lifting. Not even suppose to do cardio to warm up. I spend about 1 to 2 hours per day in the gym depending on if it is an ab day as well. (Sorry, I know I told someone in a PM that it was 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours, but that includes getting ready for work too, oops).

As far as the cottage cheese goes, my last day with it is Friday. After that, my coach wants me to switch over to EvoPro. I may try to talk her into just doing a second protein shake and 1/2 oz. nuts instead (thanks Jodi!

). I have not been able to find a lot of information on the pro's and con's of casein so if someone else has an opinion on this, please enlighten me!

**Jodi** · 02-16-2005, 03:05 PM

The reason for casein protein is because it's a slow digesting protein. You want that for a bedtime meal. You are about to sleep for 6-8 hours and you want the slowest possible digesting protein before bed to prevent catabolism.

I don't like to spend the money on expensive proteins so that is why I just use whey with some fat to slow down digesting or I eat cottage cheese.

**P-funk** · 02-16-2005, 03:16 PM

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I don't like to spend the money on expensive proteins so that is why I just use whey with some fat to slow down digesting or I eat cottage cheese.

Ditto. Either that or I eat a real meal (usually protein/fat/fiber unless I am bulking). I hate spending money on expensive protein powerds. Plus when you are dieting whole foods are much more beneficial as it will require a greater energy output to break them down.

JLB001 · 02-16-2005, 04:10 PM

No cardio and she expects you to be ready for a May show?

I'm not meaning to sound mean...but what the hell?

Does she plan to add this in when the diet stops working or adjust your diet?

02-15-2005, 08:21 PM	#33
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,183 Photos: 4	Your progressive pics are incredible. However, I didn't see anything really wrong before You are a very attractive woman. Keep it up and post more pics as you progress!!!
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02-16-2005, 04:24 AM	#35
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	figure out why you need to know when your breathing rate goes up yet???
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02-16-2005, 10:47 AM	#44
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Lifting smart is the key here. More doesn't equal better. You need to build a bit of muscle but what you are doing now is only going to wear you out and you won't build mass.
	Essence EFA

02-16-2005, 10:48 AM	#45
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Thanks, I love you both too
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02-16-2005, 10:57 AM	#47
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	True unless your coach is a complete moron.
	Essence EFA

02-15-2005, 05:25 PM	#31
BritChick Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: BC Canada Posts: 5,449 Photos: 7	Hi and good luck, progress pics looking awesome!

02-16-2005, 10:45 AM	#42
snflwr77 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 75 Photos: 9	I am sorry if my journal caused some issues on F&B. In all honesty, I am a little shocked I didn't get banned from there after getting into it with some people too. I am really at a loss. I just keep getting confused as to whose advice I should follow in order to achieve my goal.

02-16-2005, 12:11 PM	#48
Julz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: WV, USA Posts: 31	Good luck here too! (hi everyone else! )

02-16-2005, 01:19 PM	#50
Julz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: WV, USA Posts: 31	who? moi?? I've been here almost a year, so I'm actually a double agent for another site

02-16-2005, 01:28 PM	#52
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	What do you do for cardio?
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02-16-2005, 03:05 PM	#54
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	The reason for casein protein is because it's a slow digesting protein. You want that for a bedtime meal. You are about to sleep for 6-8 hours and you want the slowest possible digesting protein before bed to prevent catabolism. I don't like to spend the money on expensive proteins so that is why I just use whey with some fat to slow down digesting or I eat cottage cheese.
	Essence EFA

02-16-2005, 04:10 PM	#56
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	No cardio and she expects you to be ready for a May show? I'm not meaning to sound mean...but what the hell? Does she plan to add this in when the diet stops working or adjust your diet?
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."