GC Test/EQ/Dbol cycle

gococksDJS · 02-14-2005, 10:47 PM

Well I finally have everything I need to start my cycle after a few set backs, so im starting it tomorrow. Im running test e at 250mg's 2x/week and EQ at 300mg's 2x/week for 12 weeks but probably dropping the EQ a week before the test, and 25mg's of dbol ED for the first 4 weeks.

I also have some IBE anastrozole, but am not sure if im going to run it or not yet, but if I do it's going to be .5mg EOD. Does anyone know about how many drops are .5 ml or 1 ml of IBE's liquids? I also have plenty of nolva powder and liquid nolva just incase I see any gyno symptoms. The 3rd week is probably when i'll start running HCG at 250 iu E5D and increase it if I need to, but I might start it during week 2.

Right now i'm around 180 lbs. and would like to end up around 200, but more would be nice. Im not to worried about putting on fat because I plan on cutting with T3 after PCT. Not sure about my bf% but it's not that high, I would guess around the lower teens. Ill be trying to eat at least every 2-3 hours, and eventually taking in about 5000 cals a day but tapering up for the first few weeks from my present intake. If I can figure it out, im going to take pictures every 3 days or so and make a timeline of sorts with them and post it or link to it at the end of my cycle. Well that's all I can think of for now. Ill try my best to update as much as possible but at the least every other day.

simbh · 02-14-2005, 10:50 PM

good luck bro , mind posting some before and after pics to see the progess ?

gococksDJS · 02-14-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by simbh

good luck bro , mind posting some before and after pics to see the progess ?

yeah, ill get up the before pictures as soon as I can, but im a dumbshit when it comes to my digital camera so it might be a few days.

cider303 · 02-14-2005, 10:55 PM

good luck pal

Cardinal · 02-15-2005, 12:22 AM

IBE's droppers are 1mL I believe. You can eyeball half a dropper fairly easily and get a pretty good estimate. I am not sure you would want to count out drops every time you take something like that. The taste is bad enough no to have to worry about other tedium.

Good luck with the cycle. I'll be following.

gococksDJS · 02-15-2005, 05:07 PM

Just did my first injection, and surprisingly I wasn't scared at all until the needle was actually in me. Im shooting with a 25g x 1.5 and I shot 1 ml of Test e 250 and 1 ml of EQ 300. When I had both in the syrenge, it looked like a shitload to inject, but it was only 2 ml's. I put the syrenge under warm water to heat the oil then changed tips from the 20 g to the 25 g and wiped my right glute with an alcohol pad. When I started injecting it, it went very slow, which also caught me off guard, and this is actually when i began to get nervous. I could tell I was shaking and moving the pin around, but hopefully I didn't do any damage. But that's about it, ill post my diet tonight after I go to the gym.

Cold Iron · 02-15-2005, 05:24 PM

Good stuff. I'll be following fo sho.

How long you been training?

LAM · 02-15-2005, 05:49 PM

I would always use T3 while on cycle. at least 25 mcg/ED. AAS lowers TBG which causes total T4 and T3 levels will go down

gococksDJS · 02-15-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

I would always use T3 while on cycle. at least 25 mcg/ED. AAS lowers TBG which causes total T4 and T3 levels will go down

Ive heard this lam, but haven't read a lot about it. If im bulking, when during the cycle would it be best to run the T3 and will it hinder my gains in any way?

LAM · 02-15-2005, 07:02 PM

I would use T3 during all steroid cycles. unless you are looking to increase your bf% I would run it the entire cycle. it would be a benefit, as it helps to increase protein synthesis

gococksDJS · 02-15-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

I would use T3 during all steroid cycles. unless you are looking to increase your bf% I would run it the entire cycle. it would be a benefit, as it helps to increase protein synthesis

So you don't think it would be counterproductive if I ran it the whole 12 weeks at 25mcg/ED?

Cold Iron · 02-15-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

So you don't think it would be counterproductive if I ran it the whole 12 weeks at 25mcg/ED?

Thats what it's intended for. Too high of a risk of inducing severe catabolism if ran without an accompanying AAS. Though im unfamiliar with dosages.

Cardinal · 02-15-2005, 09:05 PM

Sounds like the injection went well. It always surprises me how slowly 25 gauge needles take to shoot. And 2mL would take twice as long lol. There are quite a few little things I do when I inject just as a precaution. You may or may not think them necessary. I always rub alcohol on the rubber stopper to clean it before inserting needle. When I clean the injection site, I always start at the place I am going to inject and rub in a circular motion outward careful not to wipe an unclean part over the inject site a second time. All trying to ensure a sterile injection technique.

Cardinal · 02-15-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

So you don't think it would be counterproductive if I ran it the whole 12 weeks at 25mcg/ED?

I would be running the full length of my cycle as well, but unfortunately I am afraid it might exascerbate a heart arrhythmia I am dealing with. My suggestion whatever doses you run is to ramp up kind of slowly to test for sides, especially if you go very high.

soxmuscle · 02-15-2005, 09:50 PM

don't tell me your cocks are going to hold on here and beat Kentucky...

LAM · 02-15-2005, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

So you don't think it would be counterproductive if I ran it the whole 12 weeks at 25mcg/ED?

definetly, not. personally I don't do a cycle with out taking T3

gococksDJS · 02-15-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

don't tell me your cocks are going to hold on here and beat Kentucky...

OOOHHH Dang, the Cocks did just hold on to knock off Kentucky.

gococksDJS · 02-15-2005, 10:46 PM

Thanks for the T3 info bros, I acquired a bottle of IBE's in a trade and my knowledge was rather limited about it so thanks. Ill give the T3 a try starting tomorrow morning and keep everyone updated.
I had a rather quick, basic chest workout tonight. Ill have to wait until this weekend to post my specific workouts and diet because in the next three days I have a physics exam, a chemistry exam and a formal lab report so I souldn't be on here at all but ill be updating during my study breaks.
Obviously nothing has kicked in seeing as I started 6 hours ago, but just the fact that ive started made me a lot more motivated in the gym.
Cardinal, I swabbed the top of both vials with separate alcohol whipes, drew both into the needle, held the syrenge under some warm running water then switched out tips. I also took a shower and then cleaned the injection site with an alcohol whipe before shooting. At first I thought I pulled way to much into the syrenge because I thought to myself "There's no way there's 10ml's in this little vial", and the real shocker was how slow the injection was but I finally got it all out. Ive heard from a few different people that QV's Test E can be a little painful but with the EQ I doubt it will be. Feels fine so far, but ill wait until tomorrow morning to see. Well back to the books. Peace

gococksDJS · 02-16-2005, 10:59 AM

Woke up this morning with a little sorness in my right glute, but after a quick stretch I felt fine. Took 25 mcg of T3 this morning, and it's quite a nice energy boost. No signs of redness or swelling at the injection site. For breakfast I ate on campus this morning. Had a 4 egg omlette with ham, cheese, and mushrooms. Biscuit with gravy, cheese grits a glass of orange juice and a glass of chocolate milk. After my first class I had a banana and a protein drink and am eating a trioplex bar right now.
Slept great last night, and woke up feeling fine. My upcoming physics exam is starting to worry the shit out of me because I feel like I dont know any of it and I have a formal lab report due by 5 this evening, so im not sure if im going to lift tonight or tomorrow night, but im hoping to take a study break tonight to go lift. Well it's class time, ill keep updating as often as I can

LAM · 02-16-2005, 12:18 PM

make sure to take the T3 on an empty stomach. I take it like 15 minutes before my AM shake.

gococksDJS · 02-16-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

make sure to take the T3 on an empty stomach. I take it like 15 minutes before my AM shake.

Yeah, i took it right when I woke up, and ate about 30 min. later

gococksDJS · 02-16-2005, 10:39 PM

Just got done with another quick workout. Did back tonight, ill post the specifics this weekend. For dinner I ate more campus food just because I had gotten out of a lab and was hungry. Had a big plate of chicken and dumplings, a cup of corn, and a cup of mixed vegetables, a cup of chocolate pudding then a protein shake. Started Dbol yesterday as well, im taking 25mg's in two doses and the T3 really gave me some energy this morning, but I seemed to crash pretty hard when it wore off so I took an adderall to study. Back to the books, ive got a chem exam tomorrow afternoon.

Stu · 02-17-2005, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Just got done with another quick workout. Did back tonight, ill post the specifics this weekend. For dinner I ate more campus food just because I had gotten out of a lab and was hungry. Had a big plate of chicken and dumplings, a cup of corn, and a cup of mixed vegetables, a cup of chocolate pudding then a protein shake. Started Dbol yesterday as well, im taking 25mg's in two doses and the T3 really gave me some energy this morning, but I seemed to crash pretty hard when it wore off so I took an adderall to study. Back to the books, ive got a chem exam tomorrow afternoon.

good luck il be following

you won't have any trouble hitting your target cals with campus food!

gococksDJS · 02-17-2005, 01:27 PM

Slept good last night. Woke up and took 25mcg's of T3. For breakfast I had a 4 egg omlette with ham, cheese and mushrooms, a cup of cheese grits, a cup of tater-tots, a cup of milk and 2 cups of apple juice. Was in class all day until 2 and for lunch had 1/2 of a barbecued chicken, 1 cup of mixed vegetables, 1.5 cups of maccaroni, 2 cups of sweet tea and a 30g protein drink. This morning my left glute was a little more sore than yesterday but the pain seemed to be more localized in a quarter size circle around the injection site, but the pain has since gone away. Ive got to go to a chemistry review so ill post more this evening around 11.

gococksDJS · 02-18-2005, 11:00 AM

Did legs and traps last night. Workout went a little slow because I kept stopping to watch Virginia Tech beat Duke, but other than that it went well. Woke up this morning and took 25-35mcg of T3 and 15 mg's dbol. For breakfast I had 3 scrambled eggs with cheese and ham, biscuit with gravy, 2 cups of tater tots, a cup of chocolate milk and 2 cups of apple juice. After my first class I had a protein bar and am eating a few banannas right now. Ill do my injection later today, and update after that but then im going home for the weekend, so all 2 of you that read this journal will have to wait until Sunday night for an update.

Yunier · 02-18-2005, 11:41 AM

Any measurements?
Chest, Arms, Calves, ect...

gococksDJS · 02-18-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yunier

Any measurements?
Chest, Arms, Calves, ect...

I plan on getting a tape measure or something so I can keep track, but im not a huge guy. Im about 5' 10"-11" and my weight yesterday was 179lbs 10oz. which is less than I thought. I just got done injecting into my left quad. 250mg's of test e and 300mg's of EQ. I stuck the needle in, and aspirated and drew no blood, but after I was done, i pulled the needle out and there was a tiny bit of blood in the little reservoir behind the actual needle, which surprised me. Im heading back home for the weekend so my next update will be Sunday night.

gococksDJS · 02-21-2005, 10:59 AM

Well got back from home last night and I didn't update because I was tired as hell and there really isn't much to update as of yet. Didn't lift Saturday or Sunday because I was hanging out with my family. My last shot on Friday was in my left quad and it started to get pretty sore as Friday and Saturday went on but as of yesterday there's no pain at all, and I think im going to pin today just so I can keep my injections at Monday and Thursday because of how busy I am with school and labs every Tuesday.

Ive been taking 25mg's ED of dbol, and so far haven't really noticed a whole lot but im starting to look a little more full and can tell im starting to hold water. Im still trying to eat as much as possible so I can get between 4000-4500 cals a day. Im going to do delts tonight after im done with class so ill update more this evening. Later.

gococksDJS · 02-21-2005, 03:15 PM

Needing a break from campus food, I went and got some Sonic for lunch. Had a double cheeseburger, tatertots and a cherry-limeade. Damn it was some good shit.

02-14-2005, 10:47 PM	#1
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	GC Test/EQ/Dbol cycle Well I finally have everything I need to start my cycle after a few set backs, so im starting it tomorrow. Im running test e at 250mg's 2x/week and EQ at 300mg's 2x/week for 12 weeks but probably dropping the EQ a week before the test, and 25mg's of dbol ED for the first 4 weeks. I also have some IBE anastrozole, but am not sure if im going to run it or not yet, but if I do it's going to be .5mg EOD. Does anyone know about how many drops are .5 ml or 1 ml of IBE's liquids? I also have plenty of nolva powder and liquid nolva just incase I see any gyno symptoms. The 3rd week is probably when i'll start running HCG at 250 iu E5D and increase it if I need to, but I might start it during week 2. Right now i'm around 180 lbs. and would like to end up around 200, but more would be nice. Im not to worried about putting on fat because I plan on cutting with T3 after PCT. Not sure about my bf% but it's not that high, I would guess around the lower teens. Ill be trying to eat at least every 2-3 hours, and eventually taking in about 5000 cals a day but tapering up for the first few weeks from my present intake. If I can figure it out, im going to take pictures every 3 days or so and make a timeline of sorts with them and post it or link to it at the end of my cycle. Well that's all I can think of for now. Ill try my best to update as much as possible but at the least every other day.
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02-14-2005, 10:50 PM	#2
simbh Simon Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greater Ottawa Region , Canada Posts: 986 Photos: 4	good luck bro , mind posting some before and after pics to see the progess ?
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02-14-2005, 10:55 PM	#4
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02-15-2005, 05:07 PM	#6
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Just did my first injection, and surprisingly I wasn't scared at all until the needle was actually in me. Im shooting with a 25g x 1.5 and I shot 1 ml of Test e 250 and 1 ml of EQ 300. When I had both in the syrenge, it looked like a shitload to inject, but it was only 2 ml's. I put the syrenge under warm water to heat the oil then changed tips from the 20 g to the 25 g and wiped my right glute with an alcohol pad. When I started injecting it, it went very slow, which also caught me off guard, and this is actually when i began to get nervous. I could tell I was shaking and moving the pin around, but hopefully I didn't do any damage. But that's about it, ill post my diet tonight after I go to the gym.
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002

02-15-2005, 05:49 PM	#8
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I would always use T3 while on cycle. at least 25 mcg/ED. AAS lowers TBG which causes total T4 and T3 levels will go down
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

02-15-2005, 12:22 AM	#5
Cardinal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,009	IBE's droppers are 1mL I believe. You can eyeball half a dropper fairly easily and get a pretty good estimate. I am not sure you would want to count out drops every time you take something like that. The taste is bad enough no to have to worry about other tedium. Good luck with the cycle. I'll be following.

02-15-2005, 05:24 PM	#7
Cold Iron High $ociety Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ONtario Posts: 1,615	Good stuff. I'll be following fo sho. How long you been training?

02-15-2005, 07:02 PM	#10
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I would use T3 during all steroid cycles. unless you are looking to increase your bf% I would run it the entire cycle. it would be a benefit, as it helps to increase protein synthesis
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

02-15-2005, 09:05 PM	#13
Cardinal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,009	Sounds like the injection went well. It always surprises me how slowly 25 gauge needles take to shoot. And 2mL would take twice as long lol. There are quite a few little things I do when I inject just as a precaution. You may or may not think them necessary. I always rub alcohol on the rubber stopper to clean it before inserting needle. When I clean the injection site, I always start at the place I am going to inject and rub in a circular motion outward careful not to wipe an unclean part over the inject site a second time. All trying to ensure a sterile injection technique.

02-15-2005, 09:50 PM	#15
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 8,548 Photos: 10	don't tell me your cocks are going to hold on here and beat Kentucky...
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02-15-2005, 10:46 PM	#18
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Thanks for the T3 info bros, I acquired a bottle of IBE's in a trade and my knowledge was rather limited about it so thanks. Ill give the T3 a try starting tomorrow morning and keep everyone updated. I had a rather quick, basic chest workout tonight. Ill have to wait until this weekend to post my specific workouts and diet because in the next three days I have a physics exam, a chemistry exam and a formal lab report so I souldn't be on here at all but ill be updating during my study breaks. Obviously nothing has kicked in seeing as I started 6 hours ago, but just the fact that ive started made me a lot more motivated in the gym. Cardinal, I swabbed the top of both vials with separate alcohol whipes, drew both into the needle, held the syrenge under some warm running water then switched out tips. I also took a shower and then cleaned the injection site with an alcohol whipe before shooting. At first I thought I pulled way to much into the syrenge because I thought to myself "There's no way there's 10ml's in this little vial", and the real shocker was how slow the injection was but I finally got it all out. Ive heard from a few different people that QV's Test E can be a little painful but with the EQ I doubt it will be. Feels fine so far, but ill wait until tomorrow morning to see. Well back to the books. Peace
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002

02-16-2005, 10:59 AM	#19
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Woke up this morning with a little sorness in my right glute, but after a quick stretch I felt fine. Took 25 mcg of T3 this morning, and it's quite a nice energy boost. No signs of redness or swelling at the injection site. For breakfast I ate on campus this morning. Had a 4 egg omlette with ham, cheese, and mushrooms. Biscuit with gravy, cheese grits a glass of orange juice and a glass of chocolate milk. After my first class I had a banana and a protein drink and am eating a trioplex bar right now. Slept great last night, and woke up feeling fine. My upcoming physics exam is starting to worry the shit out of me because I feel like I dont know any of it and I have a formal lab report due by 5 this evening, so im not sure if im going to lift tonight or tomorrow night, but im hoping to take a study break tonight to go lift. Well it's class time, ill keep updating as often as I can
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002

02-16-2005, 12:18 PM	#20
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	make sure to take the T3 on an empty stomach. I take it like 15 minutes before my AM shake.
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

02-16-2005, 10:39 PM	#22
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Just got done with another quick workout. Did back tonight, ill post the specifics this weekend. For dinner I ate more campus food just because I had gotten out of a lab and was hungry. Had a big plate of chicken and dumplings, a cup of corn, and a cup of mixed vegetables, a cup of chocolate pudding then a protein shake. Started Dbol yesterday as well, im taking 25mg's in two doses and the T3 really gave me some energy this morning, but I seemed to crash pretty hard when it wore off so I took an adderall to study. Back to the books, ive got a chem exam tomorrow afternoon.
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002

02-17-2005, 01:27 PM	#24
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Slept good last night. Woke up and took 25mcg's of T3. For breakfast I had a 4 egg omlette with ham, cheese and mushrooms, a cup of cheese grits, a cup of tater-tots, a cup of milk and 2 cups of apple juice. Was in class all day until 2 and for lunch had 1/2 of a barbecued chicken, 1 cup of mixed vegetables, 1.5 cups of maccaroni, 2 cups of sweet tea and a 30g protein drink. This morning my left glute was a little more sore than yesterday but the pain seemed to be more localized in a quarter size circle around the injection site, but the pain has since gone away. Ive got to go to a chemistry review so ill post more this evening around 11.
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002

02-18-2005, 11:00 AM	#25
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Did legs and traps last night. Workout went a little slow because I kept stopping to watch Virginia Tech beat Duke, but other than that it went well. Woke up this morning and took 25-35mcg of T3 and 15 mg's dbol. For breakfast I had 3 scrambled eggs with cheese and ham, biscuit with gravy, 2 cups of tater tots, a cup of chocolate milk and 2 cups of apple juice. After my first class I had a protein bar and am eating a few banannas right now. Ill do my injection later today, and update after that but then im going home for the weekend, so all 2 of you that read this journal will have to wait until Sunday night for an update.
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02-18-2005, 11:41 AM	#26
Yunier C U T T I N G Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 378 Photos: 5	Any measurements? Chest, Arms, Calves, ect...

02-21-2005, 10:59 AM	#28
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Well got back from home last night and I didn't update because I was tired as hell and there really isn't much to update as of yet. Didn't lift Saturday or Sunday because I was hanging out with my family. My last shot on Friday was in my left quad and it started to get pretty sore as Friday and Saturday went on but as of yesterday there's no pain at all, and I think im going to pin today just so I can keep my injections at Monday and Thursday because of how busy I am with school and labs every Tuesday. Ive been taking 25mg's ED of dbol, and so far haven't really noticed a whole lot but im starting to look a little more full and can tell im starting to hold water. Im still trying to eat as much as possible so I can get between 4000-4500 cals a day. Im going to do delts tonight after im done with class so ill update more this evening. Later.
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002

02-21-2005, 03:15 PM	#29
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	Needing a break from campus food, I went and got some Sonic for lunch. Had a double cheeseburger, tatertots and a cherry-limeade. Damn it was some good shit.
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002