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Old 06-11-2005, 02:28 PM   #301
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Nice and solid w/o there, Jeesh Brother PB, can ya leave some pb's for the rest of us!!! J/K!!! Great job, I think if you think you need a change you prolly do!!! Do what you feel is right, Thats what I'm doin!!!



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Well PB's are coming fairly easy right now because I'm kind of a beginner. Also, I have Rep Range and Shock Weeks to build my strength up to go all out on power weeks, which I find I like a lot .

I don't know if I should finish the two weeks of Rep Range and Shock, or if I should go ahead and take a week off and plan out my new routine... I'm also considering switching to the World Gym sooner than I originally was. I was going to switch after July 7th when my current membership runs out, but I paid for it annually so 3 weeks use isn't really losing much when I only paid like $240 for a year. I just feel like going to a REAL gym for as much time as possible before college would be a great benefit to me, and I'd be a little more motivated. Also, working out at night appeals to me as well.



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Old 06-11-2005, 09:29 PM   #303
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I think if I do not make the team or if I make it definately after the season i might need to try P/RR/S, ive heard and seen nothing but good reviews

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Old 06-12-2005, 08:07 AM   #304
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Hey bro, if you are living in ohio you should be ckecking out elitfitness website those boys will take care of you. I am a competetive powerlifter and at 5'10" 165 I can squat 360, bench 295 and deadlift 580(28th in the country). I am always on the elite website and I follow all of their training. Drop me a line if you want to talk shop sometime. hartsgym@verizon.net
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:15 PM   #305
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Where are you going to college? College gyms are FREE
I'm going to CCAD (Columbus College of Art & Design). Yes, I'm an artist, I've drawn on and off my whole life. I plan on majoring in Time Based Media Studies (animation and computer animation) and maybe minoring in Illustration. As a career I'd like to be involved with concept art and animation/special effects in movies and that type of thing.

Ok, here's the deal lately. Sunday - Monday I had college orientation at CCAD. It's located downtown. I checked out the "gym" they have, and basically, it's what a nice hotel gym would be. There's about 6-8 cardio machine, ONE bench, and DB's up to 50lbs, and about 4 machines.... This definately is NOT going to work for me.

However, there is a World Gym a few blocks away (probably 10 minutes walking) so that'll probably be my answer. Also, as a student I have free use of the bus to go anywhere in the city.

The meal plan's 3 meals/day which probably isn't going to work for me. The dorms have a small kitchen (2 stove tops, small fridge/freezer) and then you have to bring a microwave and/or toaster if you want one) ..... So, I guess I could use some advice on in between meals I could have... It would be best if the food was somewhat non-perishable
, and that are quick and easy to make. The first year at this school is very demanding (at one point, the first year was ranked right below Harvard for homework load), so I'm going to be pressed for time for food and working out. Also, while I was at orientation, I had a couple cheats a brownie at one point, and then some of us went to Coldstone, so I had some icecream... It's been a while since I've eaten like that, so it can't hurt much .

Right now I'm really tired and kind of burnt out. I think I'm going to take a little break (no longer than a week) from lifting... I might do cardio still, but I'm not sure. During this time I'm just going to try to get back on some type of normal schedule, get caught up on rest, and start revising my routine. If I feel like I'm ready to go back sooner than a week, then I will.



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ya, the 3 meals a day plan is going to kill me as well once i start college. However, they do have a very nice athletic gym that is open for all students (not just athletes like most colleges)



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Well PB's are coming fairly easy right now because I'm kind of a beginner. Also, I have Rep Range and Shock Weeks to build my strength up to go all out on power weeks, which I find I like a lot .

I don't know if I should finish the two weeks of Rep Range and Shock, or if I should go ahead and take a week off and plan out my new routine... I'm also considering switching to the World Gym sooner than I originally was. I was going to switch after July 7th when my current membership runs out, but I paid for it annually so 3 weeks use isn't really losing much when I only paid like $240 for a year. I just feel like going to a REAL gym for as much time as possible before college would be a great benefit to me, and I'd be a little more motivated. Also, working out at night appeals to me as well.
Youre still throwin around PB's like crazy!!!
Go ahead and finish this cycle, you can start your new routine next week!!!



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Did you read my most recent post? I don't know Arch, my diet's been a little inconsistant lately and I haven't gotten much sleep either. Now you're making me rethink taking this week off... I'm just exhausted right now after college orientation. Maybe I'll change my mind tomorrow morning. I don't know, at this point I just kinda feel like taking a little break and revising my routine a bit.



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Sorry BRother, didn't catch all that, I feel like an idiot!!! Have you thought about HIT? You don't need alot of weight to do it, trust me on that one!!! About the 3 meals, can you grab some MRP drinks in between? Just an idea, Sorry again, I feel like such an ass!!!



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MRP drinks? So...like a weightgainer are you thinking? Haha, don't worry about it Arch, I've missed replies to my own posts plenty of times.

What exactly is HIT? I know it stands for high intensity training, but I don't know much beyond that... I'm guessing really low/no RI's, but I don't really know if that's going to help me gain much strength. Then again, I have no clue about it, so enlighten me .

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Kinda like a weight gainer, but without all the extra calories!!! Thank you Brother for understanding!!!
You have it pretty much in a nutshell, and believe me, it does wonders for your strength!!!
http://www.drweitz.com/scientific/hit.htm Check this out, it might help ya out!!!



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Cool, thanks... Now if I can just stay awake reading them... I think it's going to be another 12 hour sleep night .

Well, I just read the first sentence and it mentioned failure.......... I don't have a spotter...



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You can train to failure with DB's, and just do what I do on BB exercises, I do 2 sets!!! You CAN train to failure on squats too, trust me on that one!!!



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That article(the first one) sounded a little confusing.... It seems like it kept presenting ideas, and then refuting them...

So, you just set the safety stops at a good level for squats(in the power rack) to failure "just in case?"

I'm thinking this routine might be a good thing to try when I hit college for time constraint reasons.

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That article(the first one) sounded a little confusing.... It seems like it kept presenting ideas, and then refuting them...

So, you just set the safety stops at a good level for squats(in the power rack) to failure "just in case?"

I'm thinking this routine might be a good thing to try when I hit college for time constraint reaons.
It's just a quick overview on HIT!!!

Exactly, and you can do it on everything with legs too, anything with DB's etc.

It would be excellent for you as far as time goes, the Uppers, should you choose to split it into Uppers/Lowers, are the longest, and after time you'll get that down in about 25 minutes ot less!!! I do have to warn you though, I a few times!!!



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http://www.bullz-eye.com/furci/2001/0318qa01.htm
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These might help better!!! Especially the first one!!!



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What exactly do you mean by uppers/lowers? Do you mean training your ENTIRE upper body in one w/o rather than isolating a few muscle groups? If so, how many times a week would you want to train, and how many times would you do upper body/lower body?

I'm guessing these are probably answered somewhere in the reading your provided, I best get started . Thanks again.



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I did HIT for a few months, and really liked it. You don't have to go to failure on each set if you don't have a spotter. You can stop on the rep before failure, which I'm sure you can ID by now.

HIT will build strenght, but more than that it is a grueling w/o every time without too much stress on the body. And it is FAST.

For the food thing, tuna pouches, microwave rice pouches, whey protein, etc...Nothing too fancy, nothing too exciting...



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Yes, You can follow a routine like this
Mon-Upper
Wen-Lower
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Mon-Lower
Wen-Upper
Fri-Lower
etc.
Or you can if you like, just w/o every other day because youre not hitting the same BP's until the 4th day, plenty of rest without Overtraining.
Or the one article I sent you breaks it down even more!!!
Some HITters beleive in a FullBody HIT, I do not, I don't think you can keep theIntensity up that long, but its up to you!!!
Let me know if I can help any more!!! Would be cool to have a fellow HITter along for the ride!!!



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Ah yes, my Brother Pylon................... He's still fighting the voices in his head...................HIT, HIT
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I did HIT for a few months, and really liked it. You don't have to go to failure on each set if you don't have a spotter. You can stop on the rep before failure, which I'm sure you can ID by now.

HIT will build strenght, but more than that it is a grueling w/o every time without too much stress on the body. And it is FAST.

For the food thing, tuna pouches, microwave rice pouches, whey protein, etc...Nothing too fancy, nothing too exciting...
Yeah, right now I have been going pretty much to the rep before failure on a lot of my lifts.

I'm already planning on whey for sure, and I've already been having usually a can of tuna a day. The hardest thing's going to be getting the food to the dorm... I'm not going to have a car. Hopefully there are some local places with what I need.



Ok Arch.... So, how you listed it, on the first upper day could I break it down to something like Chest/Biceps... Then the next upper, do Back/Triceps.... Then the next one do shoulders or something along those lines, or do you even break it down like that?

What I guess I'm asking is, you don't train the same muscles 3 times a week right?



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What I guess I'm asking is, you don't train the same muscles 3 times a week right?
Not on that cycle. You lift 3x/week, alternating upper and lower. One week will be 2 upper 1 lower, the next week 2 lower 1 upper. Keeps you balanced.

I liked that split a lot. I can't imagine having the energy needed to do whole body HIT. I was dead on my feet after most w/o sessions.



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Ah, I see... If that's the case, where should I put deadlifts? Upper or lower?



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Ah, I see... If that's the case, where should I put deadlifts? Upper or lower?
I'd put them in upper, if only to split them from squats.



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