Sean's going for strength.

Seanp156 · 01-05-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Very nice effort. Didnt catch you kicking shit and cussin huh? I wouldnt have been so lucky, haha.

Actually, when I went off the frame I pounded the pad on the reverse hyper, you can hear it if you listen. I think I actually whispered "shit" near the end too... And I cussed plenty afterwards too

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Double D · 01-05-2007, 01:26 AM

I tried to get 330 on bench about a month ago I got it half way up and then it went back down. I kicked the plate tree in my garage and I thought I broke my toe. Now that was dumb!

Seanp156 · 01-05-2007, 01:27 AM

You lift in your garage? Do you have a power rack with safety stops, or did you have a spotter?

Double D · 01-05-2007, 01:29 AM

Spotter. I either drive 30 mins to go to a buddies or lift alone in the garage at home. I have a bench, hyper bench, a single bench, and thats about it at home. He has a squat rack at his house. I normally try to do relativly easy weights without a spotter. Though a few weeks ago I went for 300x3 without a spotter and I got it, barely! Scared the hell out of me.

Double D · 01-05-2007, 01:30 AM

I do pullups/chins on the rafters.

Seanp156 · 01-05-2007, 01:33 AM

That's badass... Tell me you at least don't put clips on the sides so you can dump it to the side if need be!

Double D · 01-05-2007, 01:35 AM

No, no clips. Lets just say the 3rd rep went up as slow as you could imagine.

PeteTheGreek · 01-05-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanp156

Fucking Bullshit...

Conventional Deadlifts
45lbs x 8
135lbs x 6
185lbs x 4
225lbs x 4
275lbs x 2
315lbs x 1 (belt on)
365lbs x 1
405lbs x 1 - Felt heavier than 405 x 3 did last week...
440lbs x 0 - Goddamn fucking bullshit... I got it half-way up and had to stop, I could feel my legs shaking, and I kept pulling and pulling but eventually the weight starting going the opposite way... That's the first time I've missed a deadlift that got past the first 2 inches of movement

.

Felt like leaving at that point.

Cybex Leg Press
180lbs x 6
270lbs x 6
360lbs x 6
450lbs x 6
540lbs x 6
540lbs x 6
360lbs x 12

Prone Leg Curls
#9 x 10
#9 x 10
#8 x 10
#7 x 10

DB Shrugs
60lbs x 20
60lbs x 14

stretch

I have video's of 315-440 on deadlifts, but I'm not going to bother with them tonight, I need sleep... I'm definately taking next week off... I feel like doing some light bodybuilder shit the week after that too...... I need to re-evaluate my program... I've gained 10-12lbs, but haven't even put that on my deadlift, that's not a good thing... Maybe I need to stop powerlifting for a while.

Junior: I told you to stop deadlifting every week. I don't care what JS thinks. Your CNS is now officially fried. Pulling heavy every week is too taxing on your nervous system.

When I was your age (in the 80's), I pulled every ten days, and only if I was getting ready for a meet. Now I pull 4 or 5 times a year. The rest of the time I'm doing romanian deads, good mornings, pull thrus, reverse hypers, back extensions with the cambered bar on my back, etc. Squatting with a close stance, with the hatfield bar, to a low box also helps. Read this:

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/tr...e_deadlift.htm

and this (pay close attention to mistake #1):

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459744

Don't take time off, you just need to do something different. Bring your video camera this week-end. I'm benching 540 tomorrow and pulling 600 on Sunday

fufu · 01-05-2007, 01:32 PM

I thought you had it! Nice effort.

Good article too, I enjoyed it.

fufu · 01-05-2007, 02:35 PM

I finally got my legit PL belt from elitefts Seany(late christmas gift). This thing is fucking thick...how should I break it in?

Seanp156 · 01-05-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteTheGreek

Junior: I told you to stop deadlifting every week. I don't care what JS thinks. Your CNS is now officially fried. Pulling heavy every week is too taxing on your nervous system.

When I was your age (in the 80's), I pulled every ten days, and only if I was getting ready for a meet. Now I pull 4 or 5 times a year. The rest of the time I'm doing romanian deads, good mornings, pull thrus, reverse hypers, back extensions with the cambered bar on my back, etc. Squatting with a close stance, with the hatfield bar, to a low box also helps. Read this:

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/tr...e_deadlift.htm

and this (pay close attention to mistake #1):

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459744

Don't take time off, you just need to do something different. Bring your video camera this week-end. I'm benching 540 tomorrow and pulling 600 on Sunday

I'll try to read those articles if/when I get a chance, but I'm honestly already a little behind in reading for a class, I'm working a little too much too. Usually at work, I'd be able to read stuff like that on my shift, but from Jan-March I'm really busy with all the New-Years Resolutions people that usually quit after 1 week-3 months.

When you squat with a narrow stance with the hatfield bar, do you do that on squat day, or "deadlift" day (thursday for me)?

PeteTheGreek · 01-05-2007, 06:22 PM

There is no separate deadlift day. The squat and deadlift mimic each other so one movement is done on the same day, i.e. a westside max effort squat/deadlift day. On Sunday, I do a max effort squat OR deadlift OR good morning movement followed by a lower back assistance movement like reverse hypers, pull throughs, back extensions with the cambered bar, etc and then some heavy abs.

On thursdays I do some more lower back assistance work but do not work any of it for a max single.

If you insist on having a separate deadlift day, you might want to try pulling every other week instead of every week. DO the close stance hatfield bar squats on sundays

fufu · 01-05-2007, 11:08 PM

Did you see my question Sean?

Seanp156 · 01-06-2007, 12:10 AM

Yeah... I don't really have any advice on "breaking it in" except using it

...

First time I used mine back in the spring/maybe early summer I think I did something like Squats with 255x3, 275x3, 295x3, then 315x3. The 295 x 3 and then 315 x 3 were PR's.... The best I'd done before that was 295lbs x 1 without a belt.

fufu · 01-06-2007, 11:14 AM

lol I just watched your video again with sounds...those are some sweet tunes.

Maybe you didn't rest enough between 405 and 440, it seemed like they were playing the same song on both attempts.

Brutus_G · 01-06-2007, 12:34 PM

I pull twice a week heavy and i dont feel any drain and if you include the snatchs/cleans its more like 4-5 times a week in fact i always make improvements on my deads. Then again i read from Dave Tate some people are built for the dead lift so its not as stressful on them which makes sense to me since squatting is alot more stressful for me.

Seanp156 · 01-06-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fufu

lol I just watched your video again with sounds...those are some sweet tunes.

Maybe you didn't rest enough between 405 and 440, it seemed like they were playing the same song on both attempts.

I thought that too, but between attempts I even went and pissed... There was at LEAST 7 mins between them.

fufu · 01-06-2007, 01:15 PM

Have you started to devise a plan yet?

Seanp156 · 01-06-2007, 01:38 PM

Brutus_G · 01-06-2007, 02:18 PM

It looked really close Sean i was thinking wtf at the end.

PeteTheGreek · 01-06-2007, 02:25 PM

Junior:

Being that you didn't show up today, you will remember tomorrow's workout for the rest of your life

AndrewSS · 01-06-2007, 03:31 PM

pwned

Brutus_G · 01-06-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteTheGreek

Junior:

Being that you didn't show up today, you will remember tomorrow's workout for the rest of your life

So what are you gonna do tomorrow?

PeteTheGreek · 01-06-2007, 06:49 PM

I'm not in charge tomorrow. Our 800 lb squatter is. And he's not nearly as lenient as I am

Seanp156 · 01-06-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteTheGreek

I'm not in charge tomorrow. Our 800 lb squatter is. And he's not nearly as lenient as I am

Heh, did Lynn say something today like he was going to kick my ass tomorrow? He shouldn't even be in the gym a week out from his meet should he?

LexusGS · 01-06-2007, 08:43 PM

Sean, do you go to a powerlifting gym? What is all this talk about? I wish there was a gym like that around here...

Seanp156 · 01-06-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LexusGS

Sean, do you go to a powerlifting gym? What is all this talk about? I wish there was a gym like that around here...

No, it's not a powerlifting gym, but there's a group of powerlifters that I train with there; 5 excluding me. It's just a World Gym... They're nice commerical gyms though, but not specifically for powerlifting; they still don't allow some things, like the use of chains, but bands, boards, etc are ok.

PeteTheGreek · 01-06-2007, 09:10 PM

Better get to bed little man, cause it will suck to be you tomorrow. Don't eat too much for breakfast

Seanp156 · 01-06-2007, 10:41 PM

fufu · 01-06-2007, 10:43 PM

that's right Sean, come to bed already, you seem so tense!

01-05-2007, 01:27 AM	#3393
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	You lift in your garage? Do you have a power rack with safety stops, or did you have a spotter? My Journal

01-05-2007, 01:33 AM	#3396
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	That's badass... Tell me you at least don't put clips on the sides so you can dump it to the side if need be! My Journal

01-05-2007, 01:32 PM	#3399
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	I thought you had it! Nice effort. Good article too, I enjoyed it. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

01-05-2007, 02:35 PM	#3400
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	I finally got my legit PL belt from elitefts Seany(late christmas gift). This thing is fucking thick...how should I break it in? fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

01-05-2007, 11:08 PM	#3403
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	Did you see my question Sean? fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

01-05-2007, 01:26 AM	#3392
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	I tried to get 330 on bench about a month ago I got it half way up and then it went back down. I kicked the plate tree in my garage and I thought I broke my toe. Now that was dumb!

01-05-2007, 01:29 AM	#3394
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	Spotter. I either drive 30 mins to go to a buddies or lift alone in the garage at home. I have a bench, hyper bench, a single bench, and thats about it at home. He has a squat rack at his house. I normally try to do relativly easy weights without a spotter. Though a few weeks ago I went for 300x3 without a spotter and I got it, barely! Scared the hell out of me.

01-05-2007, 01:30 AM	#3395
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	I do pullups/chins on the rafters.

01-05-2007, 01:35 AM	#3397
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	No, no clips. Lets just say the 3rd rep went up as slow as you could imagine.

01-05-2007, 06:22 PM	#3402
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 746	There is no separate deadlift day. The squat and deadlift mimic each other so one movement is done on the same day, i.e. a westside max effort squat/deadlift day. On Sunday, I do a max effort squat OR deadlift OR good morning movement followed by a lower back assistance movement like reverse hypers, pull throughs, back extensions with the cambered bar, etc and then some heavy abs. On thursdays I do some more lower back assistance work but do not work any of it for a max single. If you insist on having a separate deadlift day, you might want to try pulling every other week instead of every week. DO the close stance hatfield bar squats on sundays

01-06-2007, 12:10 AM	#3404
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	Yeah... I don't really have any advice on "breaking it in" except using it ... First time I used mine back in the spring/maybe early summer I think I did something like Squats with 255x3, 275x3, 295x3, then 315x3. The 295 x 3 and then 315 x 3 were PR's.... The best I'd done before that was 295lbs x 1 without a belt. My Journal

01-06-2007, 11:14 AM	#3405
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	lol I just watched your video again with sounds...those are some sweet tunes. Maybe you didn't rest enough between 405 and 440, it seemed like they were playing the same song on both attempts. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

01-06-2007, 12:34 PM	#3406
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,122 Photos: 24	I pull twice a week heavy and i dont feel any drain and if you include the snatchs/cleans its more like 4-5 times a week in fact i always make improvements on my deads. Then again i read from Dave Tate some people are built for the dead lift so its not as stressful on them which makes sense to me since squatting is alot more stressful for me. "My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

01-06-2007, 01:15 PM	#3408
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	Have you started to devise a plan yet? fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

01-06-2007, 01:38 PM	#3409
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	nope My Journal

01-06-2007, 03:31 PM	#3412
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,607 Photos: 2	pwned Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

01-06-2007, 02:18 PM	#3410
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,122 Photos: 24	It looked really close Sean i was thinking wtf at the end. "My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

01-06-2007, 02:25 PM	#3411
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 746	Junior: Being that you didn't show up today, you will remember tomorrow's workout for the rest of your life

01-06-2007, 06:49 PM	#3414
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 746	I'm not in charge tomorrow. Our 800 lb squatter is. And he's not nearly as lenient as I am

01-06-2007, 08:43 PM	#3416
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	Sean, do you go to a powerlifting gym? What is all this talk about? I wish there was a gym like that around here...

01-06-2007, 09:10 PM	#3418
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 746	Better get to bed little man, cause it will suck to be you tomorrow. Don't eat too much for breakfast

01-06-2007, 10:41 PM	#3419
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	My Journal

01-06-2007, 10:43 PM	#3420
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	that's right Sean, come to bed already, you seem so tense! fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

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