Katia7

Just noticed that you eat sugar free stuff. Stay away from that too. That stuff is HORRIBE on the digestive system (worse then sugar).

BulkMeUp

told him that already several times. See post #82 for last discussion.

BulkMeUp

mmm.. no. I dont think we heard that one. I remember you said that it had something to do with Phone sex. You know that a public telephone reciever is not a sex object, dont you?

BulkMeUp

Been meaning to ask this. Do you have a link as to how you do these? Just want to check what form you are using.

Katia7

Yeah, Lewie you're REALLY gonna have to change some things if you want your tummy to get better. It's hard but it really is doable. There's substitutions for almost everything. I read your journal.. I was going throught EXACT same thing. Very similar to your problems.
Other things you should really avoid are protein powders, especially whey (it makes a lot of people bloated) and penuts (almonds are fine and you can get natural almond butter.. tastes REALLY good). Penuts are a root and not really a nut, so it tends to ferment in the digestive system, causing a lot of gas.
Reguarding calsium..you can get it through other things. Yogurt is fine (as long as you get plain, low fat and natural kind... goat's yogurt is best, but tastes a bit weird), broccoli is great for calsium too. And you can always take a Calsium suppliment (make sure it has magnesium in it too). The thing is, when you have digestive problems, you're not digesting food well and therefore not really getting all of the vitamins and minerals out of it anyway. Also, try to REALLY tune in to your body and see what foods cause you problems. Some of the foods that everyone do GREAT with you might have problems with. For example, I can't have eggs or oats which to most are probably the healthiest foods out there.
Your health is EVERYTHING. You'll never be able to achieve a good looking body if it's not healthy.

I could be wrong (I'm no Dr) but it sounds like you have some type of bacteria in your digestive track. Pau D'Arco is a suppliment that works kind of like an antibiotic, but doesn't kill the good bacteria that you need. Grapefruit Seed Extract is good for this too (I never took this so I can't say as much about it). Both are safe and you can get them at almost any suppliment store.
What I was told to do is take Pau D'Arco with Golden Seal (Emmune boosting suppliment) 3 times a day. And it helped a lot. They're both very safe so you can try it for a week and see if it starts to help.

For constipation there're a couple of things you can try:
Slippery Elm... you buy it in capsules and then make tea out of it. It's not a lexative. All it does is makes things slippery.
Flaxseed tea... you take 1 to 3 tablespoons of ground flaxseed, poor 1c boiled water over it (make sure to mix it while pooring water) and let it stand for 15 min. Then drink (everything.. the flaxseed too).

Hope that helps.

Sorry for all the spelling mistakes/typos... it's 2:30 AM here and I really don't feel like going back to check it all lol

Tom_B

- but me dairy , I luvs my dairy LOL

LOL! Well what happened was I was out with 2 firnds , we went to a payhone and one called a sex line and he said listen to this So he gave it to me and well there was this women on the phone saying "Hi my names Tiffany and I want you etc." I was like so my friend went to grab the phone reciever put I pulled it back , well it whiped aroudn hit me in the mouth , factored my gums (didn't even know this was possible ) and broke my front tooth in half. Parents were NOT happy LOL
Well there from that website you gave me for exercises
http://www.bsu.edu/vignette/error404/
but it's down .. But I do them on the Lat Pulldown machine .. I guess I could show them to ya once I'm in Toronto

Tom_B

LOL nah won't PM - I'm stupid and post personal info over the internet for all to read
I live in Amherst , Nova Scotia and my zip code is B4H - 4T6.
Hmm well I'm experciening the constipation , LOTS of bloating , admonial pain , and the whole belching / gas thing.
It gets worse throughout the day ..I'll pay attention throughout the week with my new diet plan and figure out what meals it's worse at.
Yup I have a prob with veggies - find them really har dto eat some days .. also if I eat too much PB like more than 1 TBSP ... not sure if I get it from dairy but will see if I do ..
Alos yup my Tongue is coated in this white stuff .. it's been like that for a while now .. I remember cause a couple of months ago a friend pointed it out when I was eating.
Ok But sooo yummy LOL! I notice I get it espically bad after SF Jam I seem to be fine with SF maple syrup becuase I use to little .. the ketchup is ify some days its bad then other I'm fine

So is all dairy besides yogurt out?? I did notice that my CC has the bacteria culture as well, now I'm not sure if this bloats me. But I do notice taht it does sometimes , not sure if Its because I got the Peanut Butter with it .. so I'll look out for that.
Whey .. hmm I don't think that give me probs... will monitor it though.
MMMM Almond butter this is better than peanuts???? I love almond butter!


Okay will be on the look out for those ~ just need some more money LOL , are they expensive?? I think there mgith be a place here that sounds like it would have that stuff ..


Will the xanthum gum and psyllium act like the flaxseed??
Slippery Elm .. never heard of the stuff will look for this too ..


VERY much so Thank you!


LOL my writting always has spelling / grammer errors! I"m scared to think about what this is all gonna look like as I just got back from the cancer relay thingy and am going on 3 hours sleep

Tom_B

Well just got back from the cancer relay thingy , our town raised $70,739.29 which is really really good considering that our community has a population of around 10,000
And all of Nova Scotia has raised over 1 million dollars , best they've ever had

Tom_B

Morning weight was 140.5lbs .. I gained 2lbs this week water weight from decreasing my water?? I know that I did wake up extremely bloated / cramped up this mronign , probabaly the reason why ..
Also when I added the psyllium / xanthan gum to my water directly it made me really bloated .. so I'm gonna cap fibre intake at around 35 - 40G ..

P.S. Here's my new haircut

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jaim91

Cutie!

Ms. O...HERE I COME! (6 years...?)

Katia7

Yeah you have all the symptoms as I had. I'll try to search for a Dr in your area, maybe I can come up with something. Are you OK with cooked veggies? For me, only the raw ones cause problems. Coated tongue can be a couple of things. Either fermentation and yeast overgrowth or bacteria. Stay away from wheat and yeast too (bacteria feeds on wheat and sugar).

Yeah, stay away from ALL sugar free stuff. As a sweetener the only healthy one is Stevia. It's a natural herb, calorie free. It has a bit of a different taste then sugar and other sugar substitutes, but you'd get used to it. Just dont' use too much or it will be bitter.
You should stay away from all the tomatoe products too. Tomatoes are fine, but not ketsup, tomatoe sauce..etc. I cant' remember why exctly, I think it's because they're too acidic.

Yup Almonds are really good for you, and can actually help with constipation. Just don't go crazy on them. Everything in moderation. And almond butter is sooooo tasty! You'd love it!
I'd cut out whey either way. It migth not cause bloating but is a very high possibility that it is contributing to constipation. CC.. just see how you feel, just no more PB! What I was told to do with CC is to eat it with pine apple. Never tried it though since I hate pine apple and felt better just not eating CC at all.

No they're not expensive at all. Pau D'Arco might be a little expensive ($20?) bt they're all much cheaper then the regular drugs. I think GNC sells them or any health food store. But try to stay away from those foods 1st, because that might fix everything and you won't even need these things. Definitely get some digestive enzymes and take them with every single meal. You migth have to experiment to find which work well with you. The ones I take are by TheraTech called Multi Enzymes.

No xanthum gum and psyllium won't act like flaxseed. Psyllium is actually really hard on some people (REALLY bad on me personaly). Flaxseed is really cheap. It's best to get whole seeds and then grind them yourself in a blender or a caffee grinder.
Don't take them both though. Try one, if it doesn't help then try another.
The less you take the better

You'e very welcome. If you ever have questions, you know how to reach me

Katia7

OMG you're a cutie!

BulkMeUp

you hit yourself in the mouth with the phone. That musta hurt OUCH!!

That site has been down for a while. I guess they must have moved/removed those pages. But check out this thread. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...am#post1022254

BulkMeUp

Nice!

Tom_B

Thanks Katia
Umm actually the Adrian said the fozen type of broccoli is working really well , and to me they taste yummier as well . I think I jsut might start having steamed broccoli and sometimes some green beans ..
Okay will stay away from wheat and yeast.



Ok, I'll save my SF stuff for my cheat meals
Yup I already use STevia (the white type) I love having it in with my green tea.


LOL I use to be addcited to almond butter , I'd eat like 3+ TBSP a day
Hmm well with whey I'm not having that much trouble with it .. but jsut incase I decreased it to like 1 scoop a day which is only 90 cals and like 16G of protein , there not big scoops. So i should be fine with that ..
Okay PB's gone , well ... unless I get tempted LOL.
Cottage cheese .. hmm gonna try it with other stuff other that PB and see how I react ...
What pine apple??


Okay I'll experiment with food stuff beforehand ..
I thought I wasn't suppos to get digestive Enzymes?? As me body will be become dependent on them .. I think I remember Emma saying that ..

Okay.. I'm gonna try out pysllium / xanthan gum first before experimenting with the flaxseed as well I now have this tub of both the gum and psyllium LOL.
I'm gonna try out 2-3 tsp. a day of the stuff ...


Ok thank you so much for helping me Katia!

Tom_B

ya I was reading that thread .. My version ain't any of those LOL. I guess the most similar version would be the one where the guy is holding the others legs, except instead I have my legs locked underneath the LAT pulldown machine try and keep a straight back (my but usually sticks out though) and lower myself down , touch the floor with my fingertips then try pulling myself back up while contrcating my glutes / hamstrings...

Tom_B

Thanks so much guys
- I decided to actaully smile for one picture , you can see my laugh lines! I'm 16 years old and I already have laugh lines LOL , I'm gonna need some serious botox when I hit 40!

Tom_B

Okay re - worked some stuff from my diet .. took me a good 3 hours

Meal 1 (Pre Workout) -
1 cup of yogurt
1/2 a scoop of whey
60G rolled oats

393 calories
5G fat
59G carbs (5G fibre)
26G protein

*Post Workout*
1 cup of yogurt
1/2 a scoop of whey
30G rolled oats
1 cup of grape / strawberry juice

424 calories
3G fat
74G carbs (2G fiber)
24G protein

Meal 2 -
60G of muesli mix (oat flakes , rye flakes , barley flakes)
150ml of egg whites
80G banana
2 tsp. of olive oil

480 calories
12G of fat
72G carbs (12G fibre)
25G protein


Meal 3 -
20G muesli mix
2 tsp. olive oil
1/2 cup of pearl barley
2 fishies
1 cup of yogurt
20G of chicken
1 tsp. of psyllium or xanthan gum

443 calories
14G fat
58G carbs (8G fibre)
24G protein

Meal 4 -
1.5 tsp. of olive oil
2 fishies
65G chicken
200G sweet Potato
1/2 a med apple
~ Will be taking my probiotic pill here ~

412 calories
12G fat
52G carbs (8G fibre)
25G protein

Meal 5 -
2 tsp olive oil
3 fishies
150ml egg whites
3 /4 cup of yogurt
1 tsp. psyllium or xanthan gum
15G museli mix

326 calories
13G fat
27G carbs (4G fibre)
26G protein

Meal 6 -
3 fishies
1 tsp. of pysllium / xanthan gum
3/4 a cup of CC
1 TBSP. of Almond butter

264 calories
12G fat
15G carbs (2G fibre)
25G protein



There how's it looking?
Totals for the day are
2742 calories
71G fat (7G sat)
357G carbs (41G fibre)
175G protein

Katia7

Just regular pineapple. Unfortunately I can't say if it really helps, because I've never tried that (hate pineapple).

Hmmmm, I've never heard of that before. All of my Drs have told me to take them. The thing is... the reason you have trouble digesting some foods is because your body doesn't have the enzymes that are needed to digest it. That's why you should suppliment.

Yeah, be VERY careful with psyllium, it tends to bloat people really bad. But you might be fine with it. Just start out really slow.

You're very welcome!

Emma-Leigh

Hey Tom tom!!!

First - Oh. My. God!! You have the BEST smile!! You are absolutely gorgeous! You should smile more often! I really like your haircut too! Very perty!

Now - in terms of your tummy...

1. Katia's problem is different to yours - so what works for her might not work for you. Just keep that im mind when you are changing your diet around and buying expensive supplements and other things...

2. I told you to decrease your SF stuff AGES ago!!

3. It is generally only recommended to decrease dairy if you are lactose intolerant (usually not a problem for people of european background) and if you really want to know you could get yourself tested (when you see your doctor)... But you can try to decrease it and see if it helps. But remember that the cultures in the yoghurt are considered good for people with IBS (and, additionally - actually DIGEST the lactose - which not only decreases the lactose but also decreases the carb content....)..

4. Be careful about chaning too much of your diet all at once. See, you might do something that helps - but, because you have done all these other things as well, you can't tell which bit worked and which bit didn't. Change 1 thing and leave it for 2 weeks. If that helps then great. If not, try something different.

5. Calcium is a factor for you - and although calcium is found in other things the level you get is not enough... Broccoli has some, but being a green vegetable it is basically unavailable for you - the oxalates in the vegetables bind it and prevent you from absorbing it. Same goes for a lot of other vegetables and legumes that it is found in... Your best bet is dairy and calcium suppliments.

6. Whey is probably not a factor for you either - it is usually the lactose that causes the problem for people and that is, once again, related to lactose intolerance. If you can afford it, a good whey isolate (or even a hydrolysed whey to make it really easy to digest) would be good.

7. The 'white stuff on your tongue' thing is only really an oral problem (that means, it is related to your mouth). It is linked to local yeast infections or local bacterial growth in your mouth - but most people don't even have this and it is usually just a transient thing unrelated to bacteria/yeast (in order for it to be significant the white 'fluff' would be there ALL THE TIME and a number of other symptoms would also be seen). So don't sweat it! I don't think you have anything to worry about.

8. In terms of the digestive enzymes - I didn't say they didn't work - I said that these will probably not work for you. Not only do most people make enough enzymes to digest all the food they eat at any given time but you have symptoms of IBS - which is more related to your LOWER intestines (large intestines). The people for whom enzymes work have digestive problems higher in their GIT tract (small intestines or stomach). Oh - and it was the laxatives I was talking about in terms of you becoming dependant on them.

10. Stop with the garlic powder silly!!! I have mentioned a few times that garlic can cause bloat!

11. Psyllium is actually one of the important things that they recommend for people with IBS to increase fibre - because it is soluble and not insoluble (esp for those pations who have the constipation type - there is also a diarrhoea form of the disease)... But you shouldn't take massive amounts because too much fibre is also problem too (as I said before) and it can cause bloat if you take too much. So you will just have to find a 'balance'.

12. Be VERY careful of some of the things you can get from natropaths... Some of them can be very dangerous and can't be combined with other things... Go and see one - some are very good and they can help you... But make sure you go and see the doctor as well. And make sure you TELL the doctor if you start taking any herbs or supplements because they can interfere with medications, investigations and treatments.

13. In terms of pineapple - where you asking what it is?? (it is a type of fruit)... The reason why it was probably suggested was because it has natural enzymes in it and it is highly acidic - both of which would help if you have digestion problems. But it is pretty high in sucrose - so if you wanted it you would have to calculate it in to your diet.

13. Check out this video for your Glute-Ham raises

There was more... But I can't remember what else I wanted to talk about...

Your diet looks fine. You have some funny combinations for meals (muesli mix, olive oil, pearl barley, yogurt and chicken!!! UUmmm... Yummy?!! )!!

Oh yeah - and something else you might want to consider - some people with IBS find that oats are an issue... So, try this diet for 2 to 3 weeks. If you get no relief of symptoms you could consider replacing your oats with barley or rye flakes and see if that helps.