P-Side Training: Developing the Beast (the ultimate athlete)

**P-funk** · 06-16-2005, 08:23 PM

Don't worry monkey man. I am on it!! I have been eating cookies like a mad man.

GoalGetter · 06-16-2005, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I have been eating cookies like a mad man.

He's not lying...

GoalGetter · 06-16-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

Ivonne said I was going rock bottom today....

He was going CRAZY low. It looked GREAT!

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Man, I can't seem to gain weight...I even lost a pound and a half.

And I can't even LOOK at a carb without gaining a pound.

**P-funk** · 06-16-2005, 08:35 PM

I wouldn't lie.

shiznit2169 · 06-16-2005, 09:23 PM

time to have a MAJOR cheat day.

Eat 5000+ calories, all junk..cookies, cake, pizza, everything!

The Monkey Man · 06-16-2005, 09:49 PM

MMMMMmmmmmm, chiiiccckeeennn...

MMMMbbaaaghhhhhhhhh

**P-funk** · 06-17-2005, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

time to have a MAJOR cheat day.

Eat 5000+ calories, all junk..cookies, cake, pizza, everything!

I can't do that man. I feel so sick when I do something like that.

shiznit2169 · 06-17-2005, 01:44 PM

p, i have a quick question about when you were dieting down. Did you use the zig-zag approach? Like did you have a 3 days in a row eating low calories then 1 day high calories to keep your body guessing..to avoid your metabolism from decreasing? I read BFFM by tom venuto and he was talking about something like this. I have seem to hit a plateau and i have tried doing different methods such as changing my macronutrient ratios and im thinking about doing the low carbs high protein method to see if i can break the plateau. You have any suggestions?

Right now im at about 12% BF and i want to get down to 7-8%.

**P-funk** · 06-17-2005, 01:47 PM

I have done that in the past. I only did the zig zag thing the last 4 weeks out. The rest of the diet was just restricted calories but my carbs were high enough to sustain workouts. I had one high calorie day on sunday.

PreMier · 06-17-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I can't do that man. I feel so sick when I do something like that.

Lightweight

**P-funk** · 06-18-2005, 05:28 PM

Just got back into town!! One of my clients is the owner of a summer sports camp up in the Berkshires (Mass.). Every year a week and a half before the kids come up the counslers are up there and he has me and my buddy (his old trainer) come up there and take the counslers out for a day and run them through all sorts of conditioning drills on the football field. We left last night and trained them this AM. It was a blast. My buddy is competiting in the state champioships for olympic lifting in July and also doing the competition in Conn. that I am going to try and do in Aug. So, we went into the gym at the camp to goof around a bit earlier today. He was giving me all sorts of awesome pointers on my snatch and clean and jerks. I can't wait to get into the gym and train. I want to go back tonight!! I am fired up.

shiznit2169 · 06-18-2005, 06:14 PM

how old were the kids at the camp? What kind of conditioning were you guys working on?...like an obstacle course kind of thing?

**P-funk** · 06-18-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

how old were the kids at the camp? What kind of conditioning were you guys working on?...like an obstacle course kind of thing?

we were just working with the camp counslers. Most of them were college sutdents, graduate and undergaduate (18-24). Not so much obstacle course stuff, more foot ball conditioning. Things like speed and agility drills and BW strength exercises (squats, push ups, lunges).

**Jodi** · 06-18-2005, 06:26 PM

Oh man, the Berkshires are beautiful. Where did you stay, at the camp?

**P-funk** · 06-18-2005, 06:31 PM

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Oh man, the Berkshires are beautiful. Where did you stay, at the camp?

yea, we stayed at the camp (greylock). My client has a nice house across the street from the camp grounds with a bunch of bedrooms so we stayed there.

shiznit2169 · 06-18-2005, 07:12 PM

i live in foxboro, Mass. so it's kind of close, well i never heard of berkshire..lol

actually nevermind, googled it and it's far west of mass. I live in southeast mass

**P-funk** · 06-19-2005, 01:05 PM

6/19/05

warm up- 5min bike; active stretching

snatch
95/3x3
105/3
115/3x2
125/3

Man, my snatching is starting to come along nicely. My form is getting better. It is actually much better than my clean form since I can cheat on cleans and just muscle the weight up (if I had better form I can do more wieght though on my clean).

clean and Jerk (a jerk was performed after each clean)
175/2x4
185/2
195/2

Gotta work on my form and stop muscling the weight up. My split jerking is getting better and more comfortable. I am getting quicker under the bar. I think I can actually jerk more in the split stance because I am a pretty good presser adn when I try and power jerk I end up pressing it more.

BB step up
65/5
75/5
85/5

chin ups
BW/15, 10

stretching

I'm Trying · 06-19-2005, 02:36 PM

Good luck to you P. Got no advice just read the journal.

min0 lee · 06-19-2005, 02:47 PM

What does your diet look like now P-funk? That's if your on a diet?

ihateschoolmt · 06-19-2005, 02:58 PM

Looks like your going to reach your snatch goal pretty easily.

**P-funk** · 06-19-2005, 06:49 PM

I'm trying- thanks

Mino- right now I am not weighing anything but my diet is pretty clean except for Sunday's where I eat whatever the hell I want. A lot of protein and carbs. Most of my carbs are oats, basmati rice, apples, sweetpotato, whole grain couscous, whole grain sprouted breads and buckwheat pancakes.

Michael- Yea, i think I can hit my snatch goal right now. 125 was easy as pie. I should be able to hit my clean goal, I just need some form adjustment. I can do everything else, shrug it, front squat it (for reps), deadlift it. I just need to work on getting full extension and dropping under the bar faster.

shiznit2169 · 06-19-2005, 07:39 PM

those videos of you doing the clean and jerk, snatch coming anytime soon? I remember you saying that you would show us what it's like.

**P-funk** · 06-19-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

those videos of you doing the clean and jerk, snatch coming anytime soon? I remember you saying that you would show us what it's like.

yes, yes. I am going to get them up in a few weeks. I see no sense in posting a video of me working on form with a low weight. I would rather let you see me hitting a solid clean and jerk and a solid snatch. Don't worry. If anything I will get a video clip of me at competition performing my lift.

shiznit2169 · 06-19-2005, 09:16 PM

lol, nobody is going to make fun of you doing low weight. It's just how the exercise is performed that i am interested in. You are the god of this forums and probably the most knowledgeable. Look how many people here look up to you? I think everyone would rather see you snatch with just the BB alone rather than see me deadlift 315.

**P-funk** · 06-20-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

lol, nobody is going to make fun of you doing low weight. It's just how the exercise is performed that i am interested in. You are the god of this forums and probably the most knowledgeable. Look how many people here look up to you? I think everyone would rather see you snatch with just the BB alone rather than see me deadlift 315.

lol.....it is a mental thing for me. I will get some video up when I have some time. Don't worry.

06-16-2005, 08:23 PM	#91
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	Don't worry monkey man. I am on it!! I have been eating cookies like a mad man.
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06-16-2005, 08:35 PM	#94
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	I wouldn't lie.
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06-16-2005, 09:23 PM	#95
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	time to have a MAJOR cheat day. Eat 5000+ calories, all junk..cookies, cake, pizza, everything!
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06-17-2005, 01:44 PM	#98
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	p, i have a quick question about when you were dieting down. Did you use the zig-zag approach? Like did you have a 3 days in a row eating low calories then 1 day high calories to keep your body guessing..to avoid your metabolism from decreasing? I read BFFM by tom venuto and he was talking about something like this. I have seem to hit a plateau and i have tried doing different methods such as changing my macronutrient ratios and im thinking about doing the low carbs high protein method to see if i can break the plateau. You have any suggestions? Right now im at about 12% BF and i want to get down to 7-8%.
	My Journal

06-17-2005, 01:47 PM	#99
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	I have done that in the past. I only did the zig zag thing the last 4 weeks out. The rest of the diet was just restricted calories but my carbs were high enough to sustain workouts. I had one high calorie day on sunday.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

06-18-2005, 05:28 PM	#101
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	Just got back into town!! One of my clients is the owner of a summer sports camp up in the Berkshires (Mass.). Every year a week and a half before the kids come up the counslers are up there and he has me and my buddy (his old trainer) come up there and take the counslers out for a day and run them through all sorts of conditioning drills on the football field. We left last night and trained them this AM. It was a blast. My buddy is competiting in the state champioships for olympic lifting in July and also doing the competition in Conn. that I am going to try and do in Aug. So, we went into the gym at the camp to goof around a bit earlier today. He was giving me all sorts of awesome pointers on my snatch and clean and jerks. I can't wait to get into the gym and train. I want to go back tonight!! I am fired up.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

06-18-2005, 06:14 PM	#102
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	how old were the kids at the camp? What kind of conditioning were you guys working on?...like an obstacle course kind of thing?
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06-18-2005, 06:26 PM	#104
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Oh man, the Berkshires are beautiful. Where did you stay, at the camp?
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06-18-2005, 07:12 PM	#106
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	i live in foxboro, Mass. so it's kind of close, well i never heard of berkshire..lol actually nevermind, googled it and it's far west of mass. I live in southeast mass
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06-19-2005, 01:05 PM	#107
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	6/19/05 warm up- 5min bike; active stretching snatch 95/3x3 105/3 115/3x2 125/3 Man, my snatching is starting to come along nicely. My form is getting better. It is actually much better than my clean form since I can cheat on cleans and just muscle the weight up (if I had better form I can do more wieght though on my clean). clean and Jerk (a jerk was performed after each clean) 175/2x4 185/2 195/2 Gotta work on my form and stop muscling the weight up. My split jerking is getting better and more comfortable. I am getting quicker under the bar. I think I can actually jerk more in the split stance because I am a pretty good presser adn when I try and power jerk I end up pressing it more. BB step up 65/5 75/5 85/5 chin ups BW/15, 10 stretching
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

06-19-2005, 02:36 PM	#108
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	Good luck to you P. Got no advice just read the journal.
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06-19-2005, 02:47 PM	#109
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,809 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	What does your diet look like now P-funk? That's if your on a diet?
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06-19-2005, 02:58 PM	#110
ihateschoolmt Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,796 Photos: 10	Looks like your going to reach your snatch goal pretty easily.

06-19-2005, 06:49 PM	#111
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	I'm trying- thanks Mino- right now I am not weighing anything but my diet is pretty clean except for Sunday's where I eat whatever the hell I want. A lot of protein and carbs. Most of my carbs are oats, basmati rice, apples, sweetpotato, whole grain couscous, whole grain sprouted breads and buckwheat pancakes. Michael- Yea, i think I can hit my snatch goal right now. 125 was easy as pie. I should be able to hit my clean goal, I just need some form adjustment. I can do everything else, shrug it, front squat it (for reps), deadlift it. I just need to work on getting full extension and dropping under the bar faster.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! Ivonne's Blog on Health and Wellness! Looking for online training/coaching/consulting? --> Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

06-19-2005, 07:39 PM	#112
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	those videos of you doing the clean and jerk, snatch coming anytime soon? I remember you saying that you would show us what it's like.
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06-19-2005, 09:16 PM	#114
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	lol, nobody is going to make fun of you doing low weight. It's just how the exercise is performed that i am interested in. You are the god of this forums and probably the most knowledgeable. Look how many people here look up to you? I think everyone would rather see you snatch with just the BB alone rather than see me deadlift 315.
	My Journal