High Intensity Angel

Archangel · 07-23-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

315 x 21!!! Man ! That's nice.............real nice AA!!!!!

Thank you my Friend, I very much appreciate that!!!

soxmuscle · 07-23-2005, 02:57 PM

makes perfect sense - its just frustrating to be blasting over 200 on the extensions and then a machine over do under a hundo on the curls. eh, whatever. Thanks Pete, Arch.

MorteSubite · 07-23-2005, 03:20 PM

Nice new avatar and I'm looking forward to seeing how that new split works out, Arch!

Cris2Blis · 07-23-2005, 03:28 PM

very unique avi, love the color!

Archangel · 07-23-2005, 03:30 PM

Brother Sox - I hear ya, BBing is VERY frustrating at times, we have to take the good with the bad, and just hope we can improve as much as we can on the bad!!! Your doin awesome at it, I wouldn't worry too much!!!

Brother Morte - Thank you on both accounts, I apreciate the encouragement!!!

Sister Cris - Thank you, it's my favorite color!!! Hows it goin?

b_reed23 · 07-23-2005, 04:26 PM

oooh...your AVI is so pretty!!

FishOrCutBait · 07-24-2005, 04:41 PM

The new avvy is all, Spiffeh... Nice!

Miss ya, brother!

DeadBolt · 07-24-2005, 05:44 PM

Whats up man hows things goin?

Rissole · 07-24-2005, 09:35 PM

How's the weekend buddy??

Archangel · 07-25-2005, 04:48 PM

Sister Billie - Thank you!!!

Brother Fish - Thank you too!!!

Brother Bolt - Hey Brother, I just got news today no more 12 hour days!!! WhooooHooooo!!! Course now I'm thinkin of a return to P/RR/S though!!!

Brother Pete - Weekend was GREAT my Friend, thanks for askin!!! How was yours?

Archangel · 07-25-2005, 05:08 PM

Today - Uppers

10 minute warm-up on stationary bike

CHEST

Iso Vertical Bench Press
240x12 (Last rep was a 10 count negative) Please chest GROW!!!

Hammer Incline Presses
70 (each side)x12

Pec Dec
165x12 (Last rep was a 10 count negative) See above

BACK

Deadlifts (AngelStyle)
225x12 (12 Shrugs too)

CG Hammer Pulldowns
80(each side)x12

Bent-Over Rows
205x7

DB Pullovers
75x10

DELTS

DB Standing Presses
75x8

Side Laterals
25x8

Reverse Pec Dec
150x9

TRAPS

Behind Back BB Shrugs
135x12

DB Shrugs
80x11

TRICEPS

CG Bench
185x10

DB Overhead Extensions
75x8

V-Bar Pushdowns
130x11

BICEPS

BB Flex Curls
85x8

Seated Incline Curls
30x8

Cable Curls
80x9

W/O Time : 31 minutes and 8 Seconds

Not really happy with todays w/o, lacked real focus a few times!!! I'm thinkin I cannot maintain the High level of Intensity for the entire upper body!!! It was hard and hectic, the gym was really crowded so I was scamperin around a few times tryin to stay on track (Subbing exercises and such) Also I got the news today I'm done with 12 hour days, which IMMEDIATLY my mind drifted towards P/RR/S!!! Help me my Brothers and Sisters, I feel like a confused little kid in a candy store with only $1.00

Would I be a fool for going back, or would I be a fool for staying? I really like both routines, not sure now. I did HIT because of the time crunch I had with the 12 hour days, and now that I have the extra time, I'm not so sure

Seanp156 · 07-25-2005, 05:41 PM

Whew, nice workout... All that in one day's gotta be tough.

Rissole · 07-25-2005, 06:37 PM

Stick with HIT for a few weeks Brother... Let your body kinda get used to it and come back and smash it with some P/RR/S!!

gwcaton · 07-25-2005, 07:19 PM

Screw HIT !!!!

P/RR/S

Archangel · 07-25-2005, 08:37 PM

Brother Sean - It was definatly one I wasn't exactly ready for!!! Thanks for the compliment!!!

Brother Pete -

I like your idea, and I really do enjoy HIT, will prolly do that!!!

Brother Gary -

I'm definatly thinking about it!!!

Rissole · 07-25-2005, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwcaton

Screw HIT !!!!

P/RR/S

A man of few words....

shiznit2169 · 07-25-2005, 09:30 PM

arch, i'll give my opinion but i'm not sure you're going to take it anyways...oh well

I think you should stick with HIT for like another week or so because you are doing something new to your muscles, "shocking them" under short rest intervals and higher intensity. This is a great way to throw your body a whole new curve so if u keep track of your measurements and stats every week, you will be able to tell if it's working or not. Once you feel too exhausted to squash all of these exercises into one, then you should definitely go back to P/RR/S. The only reason i suggested that was because you have been doing P/RR/S for a while before (i think

) so your muscles pretty much adapt to that routine unless you always change exercises/variables/sets/reps around a lot..then it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm not trying to make u do what i say, that's just basically how i feel and would probably do if i was in your shoes. Every 3-4 weeks, i always change up my routine so my muscles won't adapt to the same thing all the time and i have been seeing great gains and i am just loving it every second of every day.

btw, if you dont mind...would u post your diet? I was also wondering if you're family eats healthy too, or you're pretty much the "odd ball out" while they snack on chips and pizza and mess around with ya while you're eating chicken and vegetables.

Once again, that's just my opinion. I like to help out people by adding some input to it so don't be offended if i came off on you the wrong way! Do what you feel is best for you. GOOD LUCK!!

Rissole · 07-25-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

so your muscles pretty much adapt to that routine unless you always change exercises/variables/sets/reps around a lot..then it shouldn't be a problem.

You obvioulsy know nothing of P/RR/S bro..... Thats exactly what its all about!!
Variables that your body will never get used to

shiznit2169 · 07-25-2005, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rissole

You obvioulsy know nothing of P/RR/S bro..... Thats exactly what its all about!!
Variables that your body will never get used to

i know a little bit about P/RR/S, i have read gopro's routines. I know that the variables are different every week since there are 3 different categories. But if you stick to those 3 categories (power, rep range, shock) and do the same exercises with the same tempo, reps, weight, RI, all the time...then your body is going to say, "oh we just finished power week, prepare for rep range week next and then shock week is coming after that!" ...see what i mean?

So when i asked if he always changed his variables around, i don't mean that he does P, then RR, then S...what i mean is does he do certain exercises for Power week, and then the next time he does power week, does he throw in some different exercises with different tempo's and RI's? That's what i was trying to explain.

Sorry for getting into this whole thing, maybe i shouldn't have said anything.

Rissole · 07-25-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

i know a little bit about P/RR/S, i have read gopro's routines. I know that the variables are different every week since there are 3 different categories. But if you stick to those 3 categories (power, rep range, shock) and do the same exercises with the same tempo, reps, weight, RI, all the time...then your body is going to say, "oh we just finished power week, prepare for rep range week next and then shock week is coming after that!" ...see what i mean?

I don't think your body can get used to a 3 week cycle... There are too many variables, including even changing what exercise you do for each week which i'm pretty sure Arch does all the time.

Quote:

So when i asked if he always changed his variables around, i don't mean that he does P, then RR, then S...what i mean is does he do certain exercises for Power week, and then the next time he does power week, does he throw in some different exercises with different tempo's and RI's? That's what i was trying to explain.

Sorry for getting into this whole thing, maybe i shouldn't have said anything.

Everyones opinion is needed bro, don't be sorry

DeadBolt · 07-25-2005, 10:26 PM

Shiznit Hell no man you got an opinion voice it...but if you not 100% on it be prepared for critisizm. I see where your thinking comes from but I'm siding with Riss here....the body cannot adapt to a 3 week routine. The muscles have that memory thing but they aren't a trained monkey...they can only remember so much. And if prrs is done properly I can promise you week to week those muscle wont know what hit em. As well I've debated this in numerous of my classes over my years of college and my all my professors agreed with me.

Arch I say stick with HIT for now....maybe you can adjust it so you don't have to do an entire upper body w/o in one sitting. Do it for another month or so then switch to prrs and give it hell!

b_reed23 · 07-26-2005, 01:01 AM

holy cow thats a lot of volume and work!!

yellowmoomba · 07-26-2005, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rissole

Stick with HIT for a few weeks Brother... Let your body kinda get used to it and come back and smash it with some P/RR/S!!

I agree with Rissole. Stay with HIT for a couple more weeks then check your results. I think you've done HIT for 4 weeks or so already. That's the only way you'll know if HIT worked for YOU.

I saw good results for about 8 weeks when I did it.

Archangel · 07-26-2005, 03:56 PM

Brother Shiznet - Hey now, I appreciate anyone coming here and voicing advice, so post away!!! I understand where your coming from, but I do think P/RR/S is an excellent program. I didn't feel I got used to it, and there are so many ways to shake it up, but really my Friend, I appreciate your input, keep it comin!!!

Brother Pete - I tend to agree with ya on the P/RR/S routine, I will prolly go back after I finish this cycle with Uppers/Lowers, or I might make up my own variation of HIT, not sure

Brother Bolt - Hey my Friend, hows it goin? I'm seriously toying with my own variation of HIT, when I get it all down I'll bounce it by all you guys, and see what you all think!!!

Sister Billie - It wasn't so much the volume that got to me, it's that I knew the Intensity wasn't there for the latter part of the w/o!!! I am toying with it, but not sure how I'm gonna do this, Thanks for stoppin in!!!

Brother YM - You are right, I really didn't start seeing results until around week 6 or so, so I will stick it out, who knows, I might get to where I'm busting out the Intensity all over and stick with it!!! Thanks for the input!!! How are you doin my Friend?

07-23-2005, 02:57 PM	#182
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07-23-2005, 03:20 PM	#183
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07-23-2005, 03:28 PM	#184
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07-23-2005, 03:30 PM	#185
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,183 Photos: 4	Brother Sox - I hear ya, BBing is VERY frustrating at times, we have to take the good with the bad, and just hope we can improve as much as we can on the bad!!! Your doin awesome at it, I wouldn't worry too much!!! Brother Morte - Thank you on both accounts, I apreciate the encouragement!!! Sister Cris - Thank you, it's my favorite color!!! Hows it goin?
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07-23-2005, 04:26 PM	#186
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07-24-2005, 04:41 PM	#187
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07-24-2005, 05:44 PM	#188
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07-24-2005, 09:35 PM	#189
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07-25-2005, 04:48 PM	#190
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,183 Photos: 4	Sister Billie - Thank you!!! Brother Fish - Thank you too!!! Brother Bolt - Hey Brother, I just got news today no more 12 hour days!!! WhooooHooooo!!! Course now I'm thinkin of a return to P/RR/S though!!! Brother Pete - Weekend was GREAT my Friend, thanks for askin!!! How was yours?
	"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13 "For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

07-25-2005, 05:08 PM	#191
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,183 Photos: 4	Today - Uppers 10 minute warm-up on stationary bike CHEST Iso Vertical Bench Press 240x12 (Last rep was a 10 count negative) Please chest GROW!!! Hammer Incline Presses 70 (each side)x12 Pec Dec 165x12 (Last rep was a 10 count negative) See above BACK Deadlifts (AngelStyle) 225x12 (12 Shrugs too) CG Hammer Pulldowns 80(each side)x12 Bent-Over Rows 205x7 DB Pullovers 75x10 DELTS DB Standing Presses 75x8 Side Laterals 25x8 Reverse Pec Dec 150x9 TRAPS Behind Back BB Shrugs 135x12 DB Shrugs 80x11 TRICEPS CG Bench 185x10 DB Overhead Extensions 75x8 V-Bar Pushdowns 130x11 BICEPS BB Flex Curls 85x8 Seated Incline Curls 30x8 Cable Curls 80x9 W/O Time : 31 minutes and 8 Seconds Not really happy with todays w/o, lacked real focus a few times!!! I'm thinkin I cannot maintain the High level of Intensity for the entire upper body!!! It was hard and hectic, the gym was really crowded so I was scamperin around a few times tryin to stay on track (Subbing exercises and such) Also I got the news today I'm done with 12 hour days, which IMMEDIATLY my mind drifted towards P/RR/S!!! Help me my Brothers and Sisters, I feel like a confused little kid in a candy store with only $1.00 Would I be a fool for going back, or would I be a fool for staying? I really like both routines, not sure now. I did HIT because of the time crunch I had with the 12 hour days, and now that I have the extra time, I'm not so sure
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07-25-2005, 05:41 PM	#192
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07-25-2005, 06:37 PM	#193
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Stick with HIT for a few weeks Brother... Let your body kinda get used to it and come back and smash it with some P/RR/S!!
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07-25-2005, 07:19 PM	#194
gwcaton Lookin' for abs ! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: central missouri Posts: 9,271 Photos: 28	Screw HIT !!!! P/RR/S
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07-25-2005, 08:37 PM	#195
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,183 Photos: 4	Brother Sean - It was definatly one I wasn't exactly ready for!!! Thanks for the compliment!!! Brother Pete - I like your idea, and I really do enjoy HIT, will prolly do that!!! Brother Gary - I'm definatly thinking about it!!!
	"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13 "For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

07-25-2005, 09:30 PM	#197
shiznit2169 flawless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,098 Photos: 1	arch, i'll give my opinion but i'm not sure you're going to take it anyways...oh well I think you should stick with HIT for like another week or so because you are doing something new to your muscles, "shocking them" under short rest intervals and higher intensity. This is a great way to throw your body a whole new curve so if u keep track of your measurements and stats every week, you will be able to tell if it's working or not. Once you feel too exhausted to squash all of these exercises into one, then you should definitely go back to P/RR/S. The only reason i suggested that was because you have been doing P/RR/S for a while before (i think ) so your muscles pretty much adapt to that routine unless you always change exercises/variables/sets/reps around a lot..then it shouldn't be a problem. I'm not trying to make u do what i say, that's just basically how i feel and would probably do if i was in your shoes. Every 3-4 weeks, i always change up my routine so my muscles won't adapt to the same thing all the time and i have been seeing great gains and i am just loving it every second of every day. btw, if you dont mind...would u post your diet? I was also wondering if you're family eats healthy too, or you're pretty much the "odd ball out" while they snack on chips and pizza and mess around with ya while you're eating chicken and vegetables. Once again, that's just my opinion. I like to help out people by adding some input to it so don't be offended if i came off on you the wrong way! Do what you feel is best for you. GOOD LUCK!!
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07-25-2005, 10:26 PM	#201
DeadBolt MP Minister of Pain! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ocean County NJ Posts: 7,342	Shiznit Hell no man you got an opinion voice it...but if you not 100% on it be prepared for critisizm. I see where your thinking comes from but I'm siding with Riss here....the body cannot adapt to a 3 week routine. The muscles have that memory thing but they aren't a trained monkey...they can only remember so much. And if prrs is done properly I can promise you week to week those muscle wont know what hit em. As well I've debated this in numerous of my classes over my years of college and my all my professors agreed with me. Arch I say stick with HIT for now....maybe you can adjust it so you don't have to do an entire upper body w/o in one sitting. Do it for another month or so then switch to prrs and give it hell!
	"Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson ´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((((º>

07-26-2005, 01:01 AM	#202
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07-26-2005, 03:56 PM	#204
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,183 Photos: 4	Brother Shiznet - Hey now, I appreciate anyone coming here and voicing advice, so post away!!! I understand where your coming from, but I do think P/RR/S is an excellent program. I didn't feel I got used to it, and there are so many ways to shake it up, but really my Friend, I appreciate your input, keep it comin!!! Brother Pete - I tend to agree with ya on the P/RR/S routine, I will prolly go back after I finish this cycle with Uppers/Lowers, or I might make up my own variation of HIT, not sure Brother Bolt - Hey my Friend, hows it goin? I'm seriously toying with my own variation of HIT, when I get it all down I'll bounce it by all you guys, and see what you all think!!! Sister Billie - It wasn't so much the volume that got to me, it's that I knew the Intensity wasn't there for the latter part of the w/o!!! I am toying with it, but not sure how I'm gonna do this, Thanks for stoppin in!!! Brother YM - You are right, I really didn't start seeing results until around week 6 or so, so I will stick it out, who knows, I might get to where I'm busting out the Intensity all over and stick with it!!! Thanks for the input!!! How are you doin my Friend?
	"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13 "For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

07-26-2005, 07:27 PM	#205
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