Time to face the jury (and myself)

Fitgirl70 · 08-29-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

Sometimes I regret my choice of a username...

Well what if she said, the DOMS really kicked into my glutes today?

b_reed23 · 08-29-2006, 01:16 PM

I have the WORST DOMS in my ass today...

seriously though Dev...stuff like that really does make you appreciate life a lot more....I'm glad you are doing okay, and we all love you, girl!

Burner02 · 08-29-2006, 01:31 PM

'ello, 'ello...y'all need to strip, and lie down...ol Mike and his magic fingers will work everything out....

Devlin · 08-29-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

Sometimes I regret my choice of a username...

Devlin · 08-29-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitgirl70

Well what if she said, the DOMS really kicked into my glutes today?

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Originally Posted by b_reed23

I have the WORST DOMS in my ass today...

Well it seems Billie took that line

Billie-It certainly does and it makes family and friendships even more special.

Devlin · 08-29-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

'ello, 'ello...y'all need to strip, and lie down...ol Mike and his magic fingers will work everything out....

Devlin · 08-29-2006, 07:41 PM

I got o the gym tonight

Cardio & Abs- 1 hour 5 minutes

Treadmill-35 minutes
3 minutes @ 2.5
2 minutes @ 3.8
20 minutes @ 5.5

1 minute @ 3.0
9 minutes @ 3.8
Miles: 2.71

Max HR: 175 (93%)
Min HR: 152 (81%)

Recumbant bike-30 minutes
Level 3
Miles: 10.8 miles
Max HR: 146 (78%)
Min HR: 138 (73%)

Crunches
+10lbs x 50

Bicycles
20, 20, 30

Lying leg raises on decline board 2nd rack from floor
15, 15, 15

Sauna
20 minutes

Another good cardio session. I believe that is the longest I have jogged at 5.5 mph. Abs were feeling the crunches and leg raises today. Overall feeling pretty good.

DOMS · 08-29-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitgirl70

Well what if she said, the DOMS really kicked into my glutes today?

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Originally Posted by b_reed23

I have the WORST DOMS in my ass today...

You are two seriously messed up women, which is an attribute that I can appreciate.

Burner02 · 08-29-2006, 08:41 PM

Hiya Ms. D!
You are better than I! Had too many things to do after work this afternoon before had to go to the other office.

b_reed23 · 08-30-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

You are two seriously messed up women, which is an attribute that I can appreciate.

you don't even know the half of it

Devlin · 08-30-2006, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

Hiya Ms. D!
You are better than I! Had too many things to do after work this afternoon before had to go to the other office.

Excuses, excuses

I know how things can pile up after work preventing one from getting to the gym.

Devlin · 08-30-2006, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by b_reed23

you don't even know the half of it

Fitgirl70 · 08-30-2006, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by b_reed23

you don't even know the half of it

Yeah sweetie....you're just scratchin the surface!

DOMS · 08-30-2006, 07:20 AM

Triple Threat · 08-30-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

That's right, DOMS. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Trouble · 08-30-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

'ello, 'ello...y'all need to strip, and lie down...ol Mike and his magic fingers will work everything out....

Sometimes you wish we really did have (ionizing beam) transporters...

OK, now we have to talk..

When you push your heartrate past 95-90%, you are moving into the anaerboic damage threshold for CNS and muscle. Very counterproductive for conditioning, Devlin. If you could back it off just a hair... and add those 20-30 min meditative walks, you would be much better off.

Just a suggestion.

DeadBolt · 08-30-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble

When you push your heartrate past 95-90%, you are moving into the anaerboic damage threshold for CNS and muscle. Very counterproductive for conditioning, Devlin. If you could back it off just a hair... and add those 20-30 min meditative walks, you would be much better off.

Just a suggestion.

Depending on her shape this may or may not be true for her.

Some people are so well conditioned that in order for them to achieve any gains they need to train in the 90%+ range.

But most will achieve results in the 60-70 range.

Trouble · 08-30-2006, 03:45 PM

"Some people are so well conditioned that in order for them to achieve any gains they need to train in the 90%+ range."

That is an incorrect - and a misleadingly destructive - statement.

You meant: some people have a low (impaired) energy efficiency, that in order to loose weight, they have to exert themselves more than many others do.

I have repeatedly asked for Devlin to post her early morning HR, a marker for conditioning. She is under a lot of stress and has little or no relaxation built into her day. Trust me, if she were well conditioned, her heart rate would drop very quickly after exertion.

To maximize fat loss, she should maintain an intensity level of 60-75% of maximum heart rate. Higher than 85% is pushing across the anaerobic max threshold and compromising an aerobic training workout.

DeadBolt · 08-30-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble

"Some people are so well conditioned that in order for them to achieve any gains they need to train in the 90%+ range."

That is an incorrect - and a misleadingly destructive - statement.

You meant: some people have a low (impaired) energy efficiency, that in order to loose weight, they have to exert themselves more than many others do.

I have repeatedly asked for Devlin to post her early morning HR, a marker for conditioning. She is under a lot of stress and has little or no relaxation built into her day. Trust me, if she were well conditioned, her heart rate would drop very quickly after exertion.

To maximize fat loss, she should maintain an intensity level of 60-75% of maximum heart rate. Higher than 85% is pushing across the anaerobic max threshold and compromising an aerobic training workout.

Well then someone had better change the books in the sport medicine degree program b/c thats what they say. Marathon runners who regularly train miles upon miles a day have to train harder and longer to achieve their results...

And did I not say to train in the 60-70% range? You re-state it as if i hadn't just posted it...

Devlin · 08-30-2006, 07:33 PM

Is it safe to come out

Sorry DB and Trouble. I got the feeling that was a bit of a heated discussion while I was working today.

Trouble-I understand what you are saying. I keep forgetting to take my heart rate in the am when I wake up, but will really try to get it for you. I do sleep really heavy, (yes I am one of those that could sleep through a bomb going off) and it takes me a few minutes to get my bearings when I wake up. I also have to sit up with my feet hanging for a minute before standing up or I get dizzy. Cardio....Here is the 'problem' I have when I get on the treadmill. When walking at 3.0-3.5 mph my hear rate is running around 135. When I jog at 5.0-5.5 mph my heart rate will climb up to between 150-174. I can maintain that heart rate for 20 minutes or more, not be extremely winded and carry on a conversation while jogging. When I drop down to a walk, my heart rate drops down to 135 or so in about a minute, 2 minutes at the most.

Devlin · 08-30-2006, 07:42 PM

Today was an interesting cardio day. I had planned to do my usually split of treadmill and recumbant bike. Instead I got watching a movie and stayed on the treadmill.

Cardio- 1 hour

Treadmill
5 minutes @ 3.5
10 minutes @ 5.5
5 minutes @ 4.0
15 minutes @ 5.3
5 minutes @ 4.0
5 minutes @ 5.3
5 minutes @ 5.0
10 minutes @ 3.5
Miles: 4.63
Heart rate: Max 174 (93%); Average 154 (82%)
In 150-168 zone for 18 minutes

I felt really energized after this. My lungs held up with no problem, my legs started to get really tired.

Devlin · 08-30-2006, 07:55 PM

I just realized that my heart rate monitor is not recording my true minimum heart rate during the session. It is only recording the average. I will try to note my true minimums from now on.

Devlin · 08-31-2006, 07:27 PM

I cut back on cardio today and added in some lifting.

Cardio & Back

Treadmill-30 minutes
3 minutes @ 3.0
7 minutes @ 4.0
10 minutes @ 5.0
5 minutes @ 4.1
5 minutes @3.5
Miles: 2.08
Heart rate: max: 162 (86%), average: 139 (74%), 9+ minutes in the 150-168 range

BB Pullovers
30 x 12, 12, 12

Bentover DB Rows
25 x 12, 12, 12

WG pulldowns ss Underhanded pulldowns
55 x 12...ss...55 x 12
55 x 12...ss...55 x 12
55 x 12...ss...55 x 12

Cable rows
55 x 12, 12, 12

My legs were a little tired today, but not bad. The lifting felt good and reminded me I need to get back to lifting. There are just 2 problems with getting back to liftinf like I was. The first problem is, the next week and a half I will be busy at work taking radiographs. Doesn't sound like a big deal except it involves atleast 32 radiographs per horse, minimum of 2 horses per day and up to 5 a day which results in me wearing a lead shield for a minimum of an hour straight and up to 3 hours straight. The radiograohs also involve lots of repetitive up and down from a squating position. I'm praying for cool weather

The second problem is after the couple weeks of radiographs comes the horse sales that I will be working. A week and a half to 2 weeks of showing yearling thoroughbreds to prospective buyers.

These yearlings can be high strung and strong so no working out hard since I can't take the chance of being sore from the gym. Why do I work the sales if it can be dangerous? The money is too good to pass up.

08-29-2006, 01:16 PM	#3032
b_reed23 this is why I'm hot! Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Tennessee Posts: 5,212 Photos: 34	I have the WORST DOMS in my ass today... seriously though Dev...stuff like that really does make you appreciate life a lot more....I'm glad you are doing okay, and we all love you, girl!
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08-29-2006, 01:31 PM	#3033
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,308	'ello, 'ello...y'all need to strip, and lie down...ol Mike and his magic fingers will work everything out....
	Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

08-29-2006, 07:41 PM	#3037
Devlin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: KY Posts: 3,278 Photos: 27	I got o the gym tonight Cardio & Abs- 1 hour 5 minutes Treadmill-35 minutes 3 minutes @ 2.5 2 minutes @ 3.8 20 minutes @ 5.5 1 minute @ 3.0 9 minutes @ 3.8 Miles: 2.71 Max HR: 175 (93%) Min HR: 152 (81%) Recumbant bike-30 minutes Level 3 Miles: 10.8 miles Max HR: 146 (78%) Min HR: 138 (73%) Crunches +10lbs x 50 Bicycles 20, 20, 30 Lying leg raises on decline board 2nd rack from floor 15, 15, 15 Sauna 20 minutes Another good cardio session. I believe that is the longest I have jogged at 5.5 mph. Abs were feeling the crunches and leg raises today. Overall feeling pretty good.
	Time to face the jury (and myself) Time to bring sexyback

08-29-2006, 08:41 PM	#3039
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,308	Hiya Ms. D! You are better than I! Had too many things to do after work this afternoon before had to go to the other office.
	Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

08-30-2006, 07:20 AM	#3044
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08-30-2006, 03:45 PM	#3048
Trouble Anti-mediocrity Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: On Loan From A Distant Star System Posts: 2,080 Photos: 2	"Some people are so well conditioned that in order for them to achieve any gains they need to train in the 90%+ range." That is an incorrect - and a misleadingly destructive - statement. You meant: some people have a low (impaired) energy efficiency, that in order to loose weight, they have to exert themselves more than many others do. I have repeatedly asked for Devlin to post her early morning HR, a marker for conditioning. She is under a lot of stress and has little or no relaxation built into her day. Trust me, if she were well conditioned, her heart rate would drop very quickly after exertion. To maximize fat loss, she should maintain an intensity level of 60-75% of maximum heart rate. Higher than 85% is pushing across the anaerobic max threshold and compromising an aerobic training workout.

08-30-2006, 07:33 PM	#3050
Devlin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: KY Posts: 3,278 Photos: 27	Is it safe to come out Sorry DB and Trouble. I got the feeling that was a bit of a heated discussion while I was working today. Trouble-I understand what you are saying. I keep forgetting to take my heart rate in the am when I wake up, but will really try to get it for you. I do sleep really heavy, (yes I am one of those that could sleep through a bomb going off) and it takes me a few minutes to get my bearings when I wake up. I also have to sit up with my feet hanging for a minute before standing up or I get dizzy. Cardio....Here is the 'problem' I have when I get on the treadmill. When walking at 3.0-3.5 mph my hear rate is running around 135. When I jog at 5.0-5.5 mph my heart rate will climb up to between 150-174. I can maintain that heart rate for 20 minutes or more, not be extremely winded and carry on a conversation while jogging. When I drop down to a walk, my heart rate drops down to 135 or so in about a minute, 2 minutes at the most.
	Time to face the jury (and myself) Time to bring sexyback

08-30-2006, 07:42 PM	#3051
Devlin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: KY Posts: 3,278 Photos: 27	Today was an interesting cardio day. I had planned to do my usually split of treadmill and recumbant bike. Instead I got watching a movie and stayed on the treadmill. Cardio- 1 hour Treadmill 5 minutes @ 3.5 10 minutes @ 5.5 5 minutes @ 4.0 15 minutes @ 5.3 5 minutes @ 4.0 5 minutes @ 5.3 5 minutes @ 5.0 10 minutes @ 3.5 Miles: 4.63 Heart rate: Max 174 (93%); Average 154 (82%) In 150-168 zone for 18 minutes I felt really energized after this. My lungs held up with no problem, my legs started to get really tired. Last edited by Devlin : 08-30-2006 at 07:56 PM.
	Time to face the jury (and myself) Time to bring sexyback

08-30-2006, 07:55 PM	#3052
Devlin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: KY Posts: 3,278 Photos: 27	I just realized that my heart rate monitor is not recording my true minimum heart rate during the session. It is only recording the average. I will try to note my true minimums from now on.
	Time to face the jury (and myself) Time to bring sexyback

08-31-2006, 07:27 PM	#3053
Devlin Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: KY Posts: 3,278 Photos: 27	I cut back on cardio today and added in some lifting. Cardio & Back Treadmill-30 minutes 3 minutes @ 3.0 7 minutes @ 4.0 10 minutes @ 5.0 5 minutes @ 4.1 5 minutes @3.5 Miles: 2.08 Heart rate: max: 162 (86%), average: 139 (74%), 9+ minutes in the 150-168 range BB Pullovers 30 x 12, 12, 12 Bentover DB Rows 25 x 12, 12, 12 WG pulldowns ss Underhanded pulldowns 55 x 12...ss...55 x 12 55 x 12...ss...55 x 12 55 x 12...ss...55 x 12 Cable rows 55 x 12, 12, 12 My legs were a little tired today, but not bad. The lifting felt good and reminded me I need to get back to lifting. There are just 2 problems with getting back to liftinf like I was. The first problem is, the next week and a half I will be busy at work taking radiographs. Doesn't sound like a big deal except it involves atleast 32 radiographs per horse, minimum of 2 horses per day and up to 5 a day which results in me wearing a lead shield for a minimum of an hour straight and up to 3 hours straight. The radiograohs also involve lots of repetitive up and down from a squating position. I'm praying for cool weather The second problem is after the couple weeks of radiographs comes the horse sales that I will be working. A week and a half to 2 weeks of showing yearling thoroughbreds to prospective buyers. These yearlings can be high strung and strong so no working out hard since I can't take the chance of being sore from the gym. Why do I work the sales if it can be dangerous? The money is too good to pass up.
	Time to face the jury (and myself) Time to bring sexyback