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    Where'd the Beast Go?!?

    Well, I unleashed the beast and now I can't find him

    I can't sit on my ass and do nothing while waiting for my Doc appointment so I went back to the gym and started that Hybrid Hypertrophy by Chad Waterbury.

    Started lighter today to get a feel for it and the hernia.

    CG Bench-
    175 x 3
    180 x 3
    190 x 3

    Skull-
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    CG Bench-
    190 x 3


    Deads- Double overhand Grip
    225 x 3
    245 x 3
    265 x 3 (way too easy)

    Front squat-
    65 x 12

    Deads-
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    Chins-
    0 x 3
    5 x 3
    7.5 x 3

    Str8 arm Pulldown-
    70 x 14

    Chins-
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    Went well, most weights were too light. With Deads the grip was weak with that grip.

    Front Squats are hard as hell for me. I keep going on my toes. Also had to hold the bar by crossing my arms, not Oly style.

    Hernia has hurt most of the night, must mean good w/o
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Brother Rocco, you better take it easy with that hernia my Friend!!! Good lokin w/o, but I don't want to see you hurt more than you already do!!!
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    Your fuckin crazy hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    Your fuckin crazy hahaha
    I'll second that. Like Archangel said, don't make it worse.

    When do you get to see the doc?

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    You have another hernia ?????? Damn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    .....that sucks!!

    When's your surgery ?

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    Rocco,
    looks pretty much like we all agree...YOU"RE FREAKIN' CRAZEEE !!!! Go back to sittin' on your ass until after the doc appointment .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Brother Rocco, you better take it easy with that hernia my Friend!!! Good lokin w/o, but I don't want to see you hurt more than you already do!!!
    Thanks Angel. I figure the worst that can happen is the intestine will strangulate in which case they will do surgery right away. That's better than waiting for 2-3 months and not doing anything

    Quote Originally Posted by Premier
    Your fuckin crazy hahaha
    Haha, I guess I've got a bit of crazy in me

    Quote Originally Posted by Triple
    I'll second that. Like Archangel said, don't make it worse.

    When do you get to see the doc?.
    I see the physician on Dec 1. I can't wait so I know what's going on. I hate waiting or being kept in suspense. I also have a job interview next week and I'm sure my manager already told them I've got a hernia. Definately lessens my chances of getting the job.

    Quote Originally Posted by YM
    You have another hernia ?????? Damn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    .....that sucks!!

    When's your surgery ?
    Haha, Should be the last one I hope. Then I'll be invincible Don't know when the surgery is yet, seeing the Doc on Thursday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary
    Rocco,
    looks pretty much like we all agree...YOU"RE FREAKIN' CRAZEEE !!!! Go back to sittin' on your ass until after the doc appointment .
    LOL, no can do. The gym is the only thing I look forward to and keeps me sane. It'll have to be forcibly taken from me, I won't willingly give it up.

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    Hardcore, baby, hardcore!
    LOL, thanks buddy
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    Cardio

    Just cardio today.

    30 min on Elliptical
    30 min on Treadmill

    Kept HR between 125-135.

    Then some calf work afterwards.
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Don't be doing stupid shit. Take it easy.

    Last thing you need to do is make it more serious. Many more workouts in your lifetime.


    Is this the copper Job? Been looking for a job myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel
    Don't be doing stupid shit. Take it easy.

    Last thing you need to do is make it more serious. Many more workouts in your lifetime.


    Is this the copper Job? Been looking for a job myself
    Well my point is the only thing making it more serious will do is speed my surgery here quicker. When I had my umbilical hernia I kept lifting up to the day before my surgery. I'd just keep pushing my extremities back in

    No, not copper job. It's a courrier job at Lockheed. Much better hours and more hands on with TS equipment and information. It'd be more of a foot out of Security.
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    W/o #2

    Power Cleans- 135 x 3/ 145 x 3/ 165 x 3
    Squat w/ Manta Ray- 165 x 14
    Power Clean- 165 x 1/ 165 x 1

    Decline Situp, (DB's By Head)- 40 x 3/ 40 x 3/ 45 x 3
    Cable Crunch- 80 x 14
    Decline Situp- 50 x 3

    Bench- 205 x 3/ 215 x 3/ 225 x 3
    Naut Flye- 140 x 12
    Bench- 225 x 3

    BB Curl- 90 x 3/ 95 x 3/ 105 x 3
    Preacher Curl- 45 x 14
    BB Curl- 105 x 3

    Cool W/O Today!!! I REALLY liked the Power Cleans. My form needs ALOT of work but I can see why people like Oly lifting!!!! I don't think I'm dropping down enough to catch the weight, shrugging enough with the traps and bringing my elbows up enough when I catch the weight. That last set I keep losing form on the 2nd rep

    I borrowed someone's Manta Ray for the squats, first time. I really liked it!
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    I can't say I agree with what you're doing, but good luck nonetheless you crazy bastard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco32
    Well my point is the only thing making it more serious will do is speed my surgery here quicker. When I had my umbilical hernia I kept lifting up to the day before my surgery. I'd just keep pushing my extremities back in
    You know your body better than anyone else. It sounds a little comical to have to push your guts back in after each set.

    Where'd you get the new workout from? It seems a bit shorter than the westside you were doing.

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    I defenitly wouldn't be working out with hernia, especially performing deads, squats and cleans. Even with light weight. The biggest risk you run is pushing your intestines out through the opening. The intensitines can only survive for an hour or so outside of the human body. If they pop out on ya, you will have to have emergency surgery to have a portion of your bowel removed which will leave you with a lifetime of problems (digestions wise, etc...). It isn't worth it if you ask me. Be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp
    I can't say I agree with what you're doing, but good luck nonetheless you crazy bastard!
    Thanks Cow

    Quote Originally Posted by Triple
    You know your body better than anyone else. It sounds a little comical to have to push your guts back in after each set.

    Where'd you get the new workout from? It seems a bit shorter than the westside you were doing.
    Haha, I don't have to push it in this time. It was with the umbilical hernia I did. It hurt each time too!!!

    This is the Hybrid Hypertrophy Bludevil was doing. Just kicking things around right now. Really interested in doing Oly lifting, especially after the power cleans today, that was a lot of fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by P-Funk
    I defenitly wouldn't be working out with hernia, especially performing deads, squats and cleans. Even with light weight. The biggest risk you run is pushing your intestines out through the opening. The intensitines can only survive for an hour or so outside of the human body. If they pop out on ya, you will have to have emergency surgery to have a portion of your bowel removed which will leave you with a lifetime of problems (digestions wise, etc...). It isn't worth it if you ask me. Be safe.
    Hey Patrick, thanks for the feedback. We've had people come in with strangulated hernias when I was in the ER and we never had a problem getting them surgery and things were fine afterwards. And hopefully that won't happen, just a worst case scenario. I mean I've HAD the hernia for awhile and look how I've been lifting, it's been fine. It's just starting to hurt a bit now. I really don't know what I would do if I couldn't go to the gym. I tried and lasted 3 days LOL!! We could be talking about 4-5 months before surgery What else would you suggest?

    Also, I'm really interested in Oly lifting. Do you recommend any good sites to brush up my knowledge on it. I've been going through your journal and watching the vids in your other journal, that's some great stuff. I did the power cleans today and never felt anything like I did when doing those!!!!
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    why so long until surgery?

    If you are really going to o-lift don't power clean, learn to squat clean. You can do more weight that way. Use light weight and just tons of sets with low reps and really drive the form, multiple times a week. try and get someone who knows what they are doing to teach you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    why so long until surgery?

    If you are really going to o-lift don't power clean, learn to squat clean. You can do more weight that way. Use light weight and just tons of sets with low reps and really drive the form, multiple times a week. try and get someone who knows what they are doing to teach you.
    The last two surgery's just took awhile to get put on the books since it's not emergent. I have a pretty popular physician.

    I'm doing the power cleans as part of the Hybrid Hypertrophy routine by Chad Waterbury. I was going to go ahead and do the 4 weeks while I wonder listlissly. Do you still not recommend doing the powercleans?

    I think my goal is to get to a certain weight and then attack Oly lifting. Just work on form and get used to movements up until then. But do I have to give up Powerlifting once I get serious about Oly lifting?

    The manager at my gym that I was talking about, he may be able to help me. I'm sure he's old school though but who knows?
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Actually I just looked up squat clean and that's what I thought a power clean was. What's the difference?
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    power clean- you basically pull in a similiar way, you have to explode really hard and catch the bar in a quarter squat. the biggest problem people have is that they use their arms to much. you will use less weight here then on the squat clean.

    squat clean- you pull and then catch in a full squat position. really have to be quick and shrug hard on the second pull to get under the bar.

    you don't have to give up powerlifting if you want to do olympic lifting.

    I would drop the power cleans and learn how to squat clean. it is more specific to the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    power clean- you basically pull in a similiar way, you have to explode really hard and catch the bar in a quarter squat. the biggest problem people have is that they use their arms to much. you will use less weight here then on the squat clean.

    squat clean- you pull and then catch in a full squat position. really have to be quick and shrug hard on the second pull to get under the bar.

    you don't have to give up powerlifting if you want to do olympic lifting.

    I would drop the power cleans and learn how to squat clean. it is more specific to the sport.
    Thanks Patrick. I'll definately start doing the squat clean then instead! I'm going to finish the Hybrid Hypertrophy program and then maybe we can talk about a hybrid oly/power routine.

    Are you doing any competitions up there next year? That would be neat to do a competition together!
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    there is one in NJ in jan. that I may do. There is one in NYC in feb. that I will defenitly do. that is all i know so far.
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    I really wish you would rest yourself...otherwise I'm gonna have to come over there and kick your ass...hernia and all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    So...you blew out you innards doing a comp, now you are lifting while waiting for surgery and planning your next comp? Crazy, man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    there is one in NJ in jan. that I may do. There is one in NYC in feb. that I will defenitly do. that is all i know so far.
    That's cool. I'd probably be jumping the gun if I thought I could do a Oly comp by February even w/o the hernia I guess. LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billie
    I really wish you would rest yourself...otherwise I'm gonna have to come over there and kick your ass...hernia and all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Well that's just incentive to train even harder

    Quote Originally Posted by Pylon
    So...you blew out you innards doing a comp, now you are lifting while waiting for surgery and planning your next comp? Crazy, man...
    Crazy? Or just a sad, pitiful life?!?
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Training today

    Well, I went to the gym and started lifting. People kept talking to me which were interuppting my RI's but it wasn't bothering me. Finally I realised it didn't bother me because I really don't care about what I'm doing. I'm definately ready to get back into powerlifting and I really want to start Oly lifting.

    I talked to the manager and he got all excited about the prospect. He wants to train with me (which I don't know how well that would work considering my schedule and that he is deloading right now). But it would be good to have someone look at my form.

    I tried the Overhead squats at the end of my w/o and that was just a joke. I kept trying with the 45lb bar and I'm going on my toes, falling to the left, falling to the right, twisting my legs inwards. I kept trying and the managers coach is watching me do this from across the room. Finally I get frustrated and start to walk away when he motions me over. He said the bar is too heavy, start with a broom. And then he pointed to a bar in the corner and asked if I saw it. I replied yes. He then said it is a women's olympic bar, more suited to me right now, LOL!!! Cool :thumbs
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco32
    Well, I unleashed the beast and now I can't find him
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    yea, the womans bar is 15kg (33lbs) as opposed to the mens bar which is 20kg (44lbs).

    Defenitly start with a broom stick! That is the best way to learn. that is how i started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
    I just wanted this entered in for the record.
    Oh, enter it. It'll that much better when I kick ass
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    yea, the womans bar is 15kg (33lbs) as opposed to the mens bar which is 20kg (44lbs).

    Defenitly start with a broom stick! That is the best way to learn. that is how i started.
    Yeah, that men's bar was KICKING MY ASS!!!! LOL.
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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