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Seanp156 · 02-21-2006, 01:43 PM

Nice,
165x16
175x15

both overhand seems pretty good grip wise.

AndrewSS · 02-21-2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Nice,
165x16
175x15

both overhand seems pretty good grip wise.

thanks sir, its super tough to get that high of weights on a day I have already done deadlifts, that day I didnt so it was easier on my hands.

AndrewSS · 02-21-2006, 11:10 PM

2/21/06 Chest and Biceps: Shock

1. Superset: BB Flat bench: 125x7
120x9
DB Incline Bench: 35x9
35x8

2. Dropset: DB Flat bench: 45x9, 40x9, 35x6

3. Superset: Hammer DB curls: 35x14
40x10
Regular DB curls: 30x10
35x6

4. Dropset: BB curls: 45x10, 40x8, 35x9

*pretty good workout, however my left shoulder was a little annoying, it didnt really hurt ever, I could just feel it some... didnt make me confident, I dont want to push it so I sorta held back, especially on the incline bench. It is a bit odd, I wonder if I did something, but atleast it isnt horrible and painful, just a bit of a feel from the left should area I could feel... Oh and my BB flat benching is pretty sad... I could only do 125x7! I havnt progressed on flat BB benching forever, but my DB flat benching is doing ok... I dont get it

Seanp156 · 02-22-2006, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewSS

2/21/06 Chest and Biceps: Shock

1. Superset: BB Flat bench: 125x7
120x9
DB Incline Bench: 35x9
35x8

2. Dropset: DB Flat bench: 45x9, 40x9, 35x6

3. Superset: Hammer DB curls: 35x14
40x10
Regular DB curls: 30x10
35x6

4. Dropset: BB curls: 45x10, 40x8, 35x9

*pretty good workout, however my left shoulder was a little annoying, it didnt really hurt ever, I could just feel it some... didnt make me confident, I dont want to push it so I sorta held back, especially on the incline bench. It is a bit odd, I wonder if I did something, but atleast it isnt horrible and painful, just a bit of a feel from the left should area I could feel... Oh and my BB flat benching is pretty sad... I could only do 125x7! I havnt progressed on flat BB benching forever, but my DB flat benching is doing ok... I dont get it

What kind of grip are you using on flat BB bench??? middle finger on the ring or what? If you've been using the same grip for a long time, consider changing it... Also, you could do decline/incline BB.

AndrewSS · 02-23-2006, 04:10 PM

^ I put my ring finger in the middle of the "ring" for a long while.

Seanp156 · 02-23-2006, 04:46 PM

Hrmm maybe try pinky at the ring for a while, and then even narrower later.

Wide grip pressing does start to bother my shoulder(s) after a while, so that could be where your pain originated from.

AndrewSS · 02-23-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Hrmm maybe try pinky at the ring for a while, and then even narrower later.

Wide grip pressing does start to both my shoulder(s) after a while, so that could be where your pain originated from.

I will try that out then when I do BB flat benching next

AndrewSS · 02-23-2006, 07:55 PM

2/23/06 Legs and Shoulders: Shock

Superset: "squat press": 250x10
290x9
leg curl: 50x10
leg curl: 55x8

Dropset: BB Squat: 145x10
135x10
120x8

Superset: calves: lever: 105x15
lever: 105x15
DB: 65x12
DB: 65x15

Dropset: DB Seated mil press: 40x8, 35x6, 30x6

Superset: DB Lateral raises: 15x12 (per arm)
20x10 (per arm)
DB Front raises: 20x16 (combined)
DB Front raises: 25x12 (combined)

** Good workout... the dropset of squats really really kicked my ass, I was so tired after that, ridiculous I was so light headed and out of breath, it took forever to calm down. Good workout though, I was surprised I felt so good doing the shoulders even though recently my left one has been a bit annoyed.

Tom_B · 02-24-2006, 06:43 AM

That left shoulder doesn't sound too good .. sounds smiliar to mine. Then eventually mine just got to a point where I couldn't do any direct shoulder work and limiting Bench Pressing.
Do you do any rotator cuff exercises?? These helped me tons ...
Theres some really good info from Emma in This (Boilermaker Cut Down) post here ....

Seanp156 · 02-24-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_B

That left shoulder doesn't sound too good .. sounds smiliar to mine. Then eventually mine just got to a point where I couldn't do any direct shoulder work and limiting Bench Pressing.
Do you do any rotator cuff exercises?? These helped me tons ...
Theres some really good info from Emma in This (Boilermaker Cut Down) post here ....

OMG, someone besides andrew and I posted in here... Yeah, I don't know what yours is andrew... My was a strain in the summer and I wasn't allowed to do direct shoulder work for about 4 weeks (or maybe it was more?), but a rotor cuff is more serious... What does the pain feel like exactly? Does it hurt when you're in position to do something like a pull-up or pull-down? Does it ever "pop" or "crack?"

AndrewSS · 02-24-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_B

That left shoulder doesn't sound too good .. sounds smiliar to mine. Then eventually mine just got to a point where I couldn't do any direct shoulder work and limiting Bench Pressing.
Do you do any rotator cuff exercises?? These helped me tons ...
Theres some really good info from Emma in This (Boilermaker Cut Down) post here ....

Thanks for the input, um I dont do any rotator cuff exercises. I will look into that, I am gonna check out that link now, thanks.

AndrewSS · 02-24-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanp156

OMG, someone besides andrew and I posted in here... Yeah, I don't know what yours in andrew... My was a strain in the summer and I wasn't allowed to do direct shoulder work for about 4 weeks (or maybe it was more?), but a rotor cuff is more serious... What does the pain feel like exactly? Does it hurt when you're in position to do something like a pull-up or pull-down? Does it ever "pop" or "crack?"

hah, yes

I dunno, my left shoulder isnt that bad as far as pain and strength really. I have noticed for a while some stuff like incline bench and what not strains my left side much faster than my right side, sometimes I would get a numbness down like the back of my triceps, but I cant remeber actual noteable pain from it. Just earlier this week the issue was a bit of numbness/aggravation for a while. It seems to be gone now, and has been for a few days, but regardless im still worried about it some. Certain postitions dont really aggravate it, but when I just move around my shoulders my left one seems to pop/crack some... so yeah...

AndrewSS · 02-24-2006, 11:47 AM

I looked in that post, this link is good - I think I might try some of those rotator cuff exercises out... any other input from anyone?

heres the link: http://www.ruggedmag.com/index.php?type=Article&i=2&a=5

Seanp156 · 02-24-2006, 12:33 PM

A lot of those exercises are similar to what I did during physical therapy, so you it might be a good idea once a week... Haha, the guy's face on that site is so serious...

On things like L-Lateral Raise don't use anything over 20lbs... The point isn't to use a lot of weight, you'll probably want to start around 8 or so lbs...

Tom_B · 02-24-2006, 07:30 PM

hahaha I'm mostly a lurker

For me all I do is 2x a week (Mon & Wed with my cardio) is 4 sets of the Upright External Rotations and 4 sets of the DB scaptions , keeping it light. It's Helped me ALOT -> theres no pain there anymore whatsoever.
haven't tried any of the other exercises ..
But Either way good luck! Hope they help somewhat!

AndrewSS · 02-24-2006, 07:32 PM

^ Thanks

AndrewSS · 02-26-2006, 12:44 AM

2/25/06 Back and Triceps: Shock

Superset: DB Rows: 50x10
55x8
BB Shrugs: 175x13
165x16

Dropset: Latpulldown: 100x13, 90x10, 80x8

Dropset: BB Rows: 95x14, 85x10, 75x10

Dropset: DB Skullcrushers: 20x15, 15x10, 10x11

Superset: Benchdips: 45x12
45x10
Cable Pushdowns: 60x10
50x10

AndrewSS · 03-01-2006, 12:59 AM

2/28/06 Chest and Biceps: Power

BB flat bench: 135x6
145x4 (pb)
135x4

Butterfly machine: 80x9 (figuring what weight i should do)
100x6
110x5

Dips: 15x6
20x5
20x4

DB Curls: 30x14 (with both)
35x10 (with both)
35x8 (with both)

BB curls: 45x7
55x5

* Well, I am somewhat happy with my flat BB benching, I got 145x4 which was surprising and a PB, however I am pretty mad that my right shoulder began to hurt right after 135x6 on flat BB (form was ok to my knowledge) but yeah its ALWAYS been my left shoulder but today my right was annoyed... I dont get it, it was bad enough that even curls were aggravating it (top of the curl) ... very weird - my left shoulder wasnt annoyed really, just the right.

I did start the workout with some lateral raises (5lbs) to try to loosen up (lame attempt at rotary cuff work, I will start 2x next week) but yeah anyway im very surprised.... well atleast I did 145x4 today

AndrewSS · 03-02-2006, 10:08 PM

3/2/06 - Back and Triceps: Power

Deadlifts: 165x6
195x5
215x4 (pb)

DB Rows: 55x6
60x6
65x4 (pb)

Lat Pulldowns: 110x6
120x5
120x4

^ in between the sets I did sets of pullups: for- 7, 6, 6

DB Shrugs: 65x10
75x8
70x8

DB Skullcrushers: 25x6
30x1
25x5
20x7

Pushdowns: 60x6
70x4
60x6

* good workout, although again my shoulders started to feel annoyed from this, I think I should take off next week, what do you think? I dunno this is starting to be pretty annoying, but yeah any advice would be nice - I will start up those exercises for the rotary cuff or whatever here very soon to help to train it some.

oh and I weighed in today at: 149.2 lbs

Seanp156 · 03-02-2006, 10:43 PM

Good w/o andrew... Wow 149, that's fairly high for you lately... Was that with shoes/clothes or just boxers etc? I dunno what to tell you about your shoulder, do what you're comfortable with I guess... If you get actual pain, I'd say probably take a week off... At least from and type of pressing movements.

Just a random question, why do you like DB skulls so much? They're alright for a change, but I don't really like them all that well...

I just think with a 4-6 rep range, weighted dips and CG bench would be better choices instead of purely isolation, or even normal skulls.

AndrewSS · 03-04-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Good w/o andrew... Wow 149, that's fairly high for you lately... Was that with shoes/clothes or just boxers etc? I dunno what to tell you about your shoulder, do what you're comfortable with I guess... If you get actual pain, I'd say probably take a week off... At least from and type of pressing movements.

Just a random question, why do you like DB skulls so much? They're alright for a change, but I don't really like them all that well...

I just think with a 4-6 rep range, weighted dips and CG bench would be better choices instead of purely isolation, or even normal skulls.

I have always weighed with just t-shirt, shorts, boxers, and socks... just what I wear to workout, minus the shoes. Yeah I might take next week off, well I might do some stuff, just not what may affect the shoulders.

I do DB skulls because I kinda like them, but I guess I have done them several times in a row per week, maybe I could switch back to the BB kinds... I should start CG bench though, I never do that.

Tom_B · 03-04-2006, 01:44 AM

If your really serious about your shoulder, I would take an entire month (one week isn't going to do it.) off direct shoulder work (Still able to do some light Lateral and Rear Delt Work), focusing on those rotator cuff exercises. Also take a look at the ratio of Pressing to pulling movements in your routine and make sure it's balanced. If your also are doing Any type of Incline Pressing I'd switch it over to a decline Plane for a while, and not hit complete failure on your sets (I'd also be apprehensive Of doing normal flat Bench pressing too..). I know it sucks and your not going to want to do it .. but trust me it's worth it, I've been in your position. You need to ask yourself what's more important. Getting out a couple more weeks of training and risk tearing something that's going take you off training for months and leave you with a life long problem, forever affecting your training. Or switch things up for a bit and get more balance/strength within your shoulders then getting back to training, stronger than ever. One step backwards, two steps forward.

AndrewSS · 03-05-2006, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_B

If your really serious about your shoulder, I would take an entire month (one week isn't going to do it.) off direct shoulder work (Still able to do some light Lateral and Rear Delt Work), focusing on those rotator cuff exercises. Also take a look at the ratio of Pressing to pulling movements in your routine and make sure it's balanced. If your also are doing Any type of Incline Pressing I'd switch it over to a decline Plane for a while, and not hit complete failure on your sets (I'd also be apprehensive Of doing normal flat Bench pressing too..). I know it sucks and your not going to want to do it .. but trust me it's worth it, I've been in your position. You need to ask yourself what's more important. Getting out a couple more weeks of training and risk tearing something that's going take you off training for months and leave you with a life long problem, forever affecting your training. Or switch things up for a bit and get more balance/strength within your shoulders then getting back to training, stronger than ever. One step backwards, two steps forward.

Thanks for the post man, I agree I gotta take the shoulder problem seriously before I really mess mine up and truely regret it. I am going to think up exactly what I am going to do but yeah direct shoulder is done for like you said like a month. I might still do some flat bench - but very light weight if it feels ok. I will review those rotator cuff exercises and figure out a little routine. Finally would ya explain the push/pull ratio a bit more... like what exactly do you mean?

Again, thanks for your input

AndrewSS · 03-05-2006, 10:04 PM

2/4/05 Legs: Power (no shoulder due to injury)

*I had to do this workout at my house (pretty good gym) because im back home on spring break (at school in indiana)... I was going to go to the world gym with Sean but it was closed before I could go so we worked out at my house.

Squat machine: 230x6
250x6
260x5

Leg Ext: 150x6
160x6
70x4

Leg curls: 60x6
70x6
80x4

Calveraises: lever: 150x8
DB: 50x15
lever: 150x10
DB: 50x10

Then 5min (yeah, should do longer...

) of stair master - got .65mi

Then some abs work.

AndrewSS · 03-07-2006, 08:18 PM

2/7/06 Rotator cuff/shoulder conditioning and triceps then some abs: "rep range"

I did 3 sets of each of these exercises:

DB Upright external rotation (used 3 pounds)

L lateral raises (used 5lbs)

Cuban press (used a 15lb ezcurl BB)

DB Scaptions (used 5lbs)

I just did every set till I got a decent burn going. I think I like all these exercises, and will do them 2x a week, but I will probably rotate 1 of them each week to get it 3 workouts with 3 sets each per day I do them.

Triceps:

Close grip bench: 65x8 (I stopped cause I felt like my shoulder might be a little affected by it...)

BB Skullcrushers: 35x12, 55x8, 55x8

Pushdowns: 50x8, 50x8, 50x8

Then some abs stuff.

This week I will do legs like normal again, and hopefully back about like normal, its just chest and shoulders that are getting a rest really, and shoulders will be rested for a while I think besides the rotator cuff stuff for probably over 4 weeks, benching and chest work I will see about but I am taking them out for this week. Anyway I really hope nothing has been hurt badly and that I can get my shoulders healthy

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02-21-2006, 11:10 PM	#63
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	2/21/06 Chest and Biceps: Shock 1. Superset: BB Flat bench: 125x7 120x9 DB Incline Bench: 35x9 35x8 2. Dropset: DB Flat bench: 45x9, 40x9, 35x6 3. Superset: Hammer DB curls: 35x14 40x10 Regular DB curls: 30x10 35x6 4. Dropset: BB curls: 45x10, 40x8, 35x9 *pretty good workout, however my left shoulder was a little annoying, it didnt really hurt ever, I could just feel it some... didnt make me confident, I dont want to push it so I sorta held back, especially on the incline bench. It is a bit odd, I wonder if I did something, but atleast it isnt horrible and painful, just a bit of a feel from the left should area I could feel... Oh and my BB flat benching is pretty sad... I could only do 125x7! I havnt progressed on flat BB benching forever, but my DB flat benching is doing ok... I dont get it
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

02-23-2006, 04:10 PM	#65
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	^ I put my ring finger in the middle of the "ring" for a long while.
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

02-23-2006, 04:46 PM	#66
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,173 Photos: 11	Hrmm maybe try pinky at the ring for a while, and then even narrower later. Wide grip pressing does start to bother my shoulder(s) after a while, so that could be where your pain originated from. Last edited by Seanp156 : 02-23-2006 at 07:28 PM.
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02-23-2006, 07:55 PM	#68
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	2/23/06 Legs and Shoulders: Shock Superset: "squat press": 250x10 290x9 leg curl: 50x10 leg curl: 55x8 Dropset: BB Squat: 145x10 135x10 120x8 Superset: calves: lever: 105x15 lever: 105x15 DB: 65x12 DB: 65x15 Dropset: DB Seated mil press: 40x8, 35x6, 30x6 Superset: DB Lateral raises: 15x12 (per arm) 20x10 (per arm) DB Front raises: 20x16 (combined) DB Front raises: 25x12 (combined) ** Good workout... the dropset of squats really really kicked my ass, I was so tired after that, ridiculous I was so light headed and out of breath, it took forever to calm down. Good workout though, I was surprised I felt so good doing the shoulders even though recently my left one has been a bit annoyed. Last edited by AndrewSS : 02-23-2006 at 09:40 PM.
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

02-24-2006, 06:43 AM	#69
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	That left shoulder doesn't sound too good .. sounds smiliar to mine. Then eventually mine just got to a point where I couldn't do any direct shoulder work and limiting Bench Pressing. Do you do any rotator cuff exercises?? These helped me tons ... Theres some really good info from Emma in This (Boilermaker Cut Down) post here ....

02-24-2006, 11:47 AM	#73
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	I looked in that post, this link is good - I think I might try some of those rotator cuff exercises out... any other input from anyone? heres the link: http://www.ruggedmag.com/index.php?type=Article&i=2&a=5
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

02-24-2006, 12:33 PM	#74
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,173 Photos: 11	A lot of those exercises are similar to what I did during physical therapy, so you it might be a good idea once a week... Haha, the guy's face on that site is so serious... On things like L-Lateral Raise don't use anything over 20lbs... The point isn't to use a lot of weight, you'll probably want to start around 8 or so lbs...
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02-24-2006, 07:30 PM	#75
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	hahaha I'm mostly a lurker For me all I do is 2x a week (Mon & Wed with my cardio) is 4 sets of the Upright External Rotations and 4 sets of the DB scaptions , keeping it light. It's Helped me ALOT -> theres no pain there anymore whatsoever. haven't tried any of the other exercises .. But Either way good luck! Hope they help somewhat!

02-24-2006, 07:32 PM	#76
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	^ Thanks
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

02-26-2006, 12:44 AM	#77
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	2/25/06 Back and Triceps: Shock Superset: DB Rows: 50x10 55x8 BB Shrugs: 175x13 165x16 Dropset: Latpulldown: 100x13, 90x10, 80x8 Dropset: BB Rows: 95x14, 85x10, 75x10 Dropset: DB Skullcrushers: 20x15, 15x10, 10x11 Superset: Benchdips: 45x12 45x10 Cable Pushdowns: 60x10 50x10
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

03-01-2006, 12:59 AM	#78
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	2/28/06 Chest and Biceps: Power BB flat bench: 135x6 145x4 (pb) 135x4 Butterfly machine: 80x9 (figuring what weight i should do) 100x6 110x5 Dips: 15x6 20x5 20x4 DB Curls: 30x14 (with both) 35x10 (with both) 35x8 (with both) BB curls: 45x7 55x5 * Well, I am somewhat happy with my flat BB benching, I got 145x4 which was surprising and a PB, however I am pretty mad that my right shoulder began to hurt right after 135x6 on flat BB (form was ok to my knowledge) but yeah its ALWAYS been my left shoulder but today my right was annoyed... I dont get it, it was bad enough that even curls were aggravating it (top of the curl) ... very weird - my left shoulder wasnt annoyed really, just the right. I did start the workout with some lateral raises (5lbs) to try to loosen up (lame attempt at rotary cuff work, I will start 2x next week) but yeah anyway im very surprised.... well atleast I did 145x4 today
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

03-02-2006, 10:08 PM	#79
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	3/2/06 - Back and Triceps: Power Deadlifts: 165x6 195x5 215x4 (pb) DB Rows: 55x6 60x6 65x4 (pb) Lat Pulldowns: 110x6 120x5 120x4 ^ in between the sets I did sets of pullups: for- 7, 6, 6 DB Shrugs: 65x10 75x8 70x8 DB Skullcrushers: 25x6 30x1 25x5 20x7 Pushdowns: 60x6 70x4 60x6 * good workout, although again my shoulders started to feel annoyed from this, I think I should take off next week, what do you think? I dunno this is starting to be pretty annoying, but yeah any advice would be nice - I will start up those exercises for the rotary cuff or whatever here very soon to help to train it some. oh and I weighed in today at: 149.2 lbs
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs

03-02-2006, 10:43 PM	#80
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,173 Photos: 11	Good w/o andrew... Wow 149, that's fairly high for you lately... Was that with shoes/clothes or just boxers etc? I dunno what to tell you about your shoulder, do what you're comfortable with I guess... If you get actual pain, I'd say probably take a week off... At least from and type of pressing movements. Just a random question, why do you like DB skulls so much? They're alright for a change, but I don't really like them all that well... I just think with a 4-6 rep range, weighted dips and CG bench would be better choices instead of purely isolation, or even normal skulls.
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03-04-2006, 01:44 AM	#82
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	If your really serious about your shoulder, I would take an entire month (one week isn't going to do it.) off direct shoulder work (Still able to do some light Lateral and Rear Delt Work), focusing on those rotator cuff exercises. Also take a look at the ratio of Pressing to pulling movements in your routine and make sure it's balanced. If your also are doing Any type of Incline Pressing I'd switch it over to a decline Plane for a while, and not hit complete failure on your sets (I'd also be apprehensive Of doing normal flat Bench pressing too..). I know it sucks and your not going to want to do it .. but trust me it's worth it, I've been in your position. You need to ask yourself what's more important. Getting out a couple more weeks of training and risk tearing something that's going take you off training for months and leave you with a life long problem, forever affecting your training. Or switch things up for a bit and get more balance/strength within your shoulders then getting back to training, stronger than ever. One step backwards, two steps forward.

03-05-2006, 10:04 PM	#84
AndrewSS nobleman's cockslinger Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,591 Photos: 2	2/4/05 Legs: Power (no shoulder due to injury) *I had to do this workout at my house (pretty good gym) because im back home on spring break (at school in indiana)... I was going to go to the world gym with Sean but it was closed before I could go so we worked out at my house. Squat machine: 230x6 250x6 260x5 Leg Ext: 150x6 160x6 70x4 Leg curls: 60x6 70x6 80x4 Calveraises: lever: 150x8 DB: 50x15 lever: 150x10 DB: 50x10 Then 5min (yeah, should do longer... ) of stair master - got .65mi Then some abs work.
	Height: 5'11" \| Weight: 155lbs Bench: 175lbs \| Deadlift: 265lbs \| Squat: 235lbs