Dale Mabry's Athletic Endeavor...

**Dale Mabry** · 02-17-2006, 05:43 PM

I played with some of the se again today and did some plyos, still trying to get over the flu.

So P, you could stand on a stability ball, that's pretty good. I tried a couple of times but just said fuck it and stopped.

**P-funk** · 02-17-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I played with some of the se again today and did some plyos, still trying to get over the flu.

So P, you could stand on a stability ball, that's pretty good. I tried a couple of times but just said fuck it and stopped.

I don't know if I can anymore. About 3 years ago my old manager would stand on it and squat 135lbs and it looked pretty bad ass so I used to work on it. the best I could do was stand on it and squat and press 10lb DBs.

I haven't done it since then because I felt like it was a bit excessive and the risk was greater then the reward. Especially when I heard that JC Santana tore his ACL standing on the Stability Ball doing a demostration for a lecture.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-17-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

Especially when I heard that JC Santana tore his ACL standing on the Stability Ball doing a demostration for a lecture.

Damn, how much of a piece of shit does that make you feel like?

**P-funk** · 02-17-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Damn, how much of a piece of shit does that make you feel like?

yea, that had to suck.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 12:45 PM

Here is the next 4-6 week mesocycle.

Monday
Linear Speed-8 30yd sprints
Resistance Training
Power-2-3 minute recovery
Hang Snatch 3x3
Bench Throw 3x3
Hypertrophy-60 second recovery
DB Shoulder Press-2x12
reverse Grip Lat Pulldown-2x12
Incline Flyes-2x12
Rear Delt raises-2x12
Cable Pushdown-2x12
Hammer Curls-2x12
Focus/Balance/Concentration
Weapon X-2x10 each side
1-leg squat to med ball free throw-2x10 each side

Tuesday-
Agility
Pro Agility-8 sets
Resistance Training
Strength-2-3 minute recovery
Back Squat- 3x4
Step ups- 3x4
Muscular Endurance-30 seconds recovery
Leg Extensions- 2x15
Leg Curl- 2x15
Hip Flexion- 2x15
Reverse Hypers- 2x15
Focus/Balance/Concentration
BR med ball chest pass-4x10
1-leg med ball bowling pass and catch-4x10

Wednesday-
Linear Speed-8 10yd sprints
Plyos-Don't know what my plyo routine is yet

Thursday-
Agility-zigzag pattern-6 sets
Strength-2-3 minute recovery
Flat Bench- 3x4
Wide Grip Pull-ups- 3x4
Shoulder Press-3x4
Muscular Endruance-30 seconds Recovery
Low cable crossover-2x12
Reverse Grip Cable Row-2x12
Lat raise-2x12
Db Scaption-2x12
1-arm db extension-2x12
Cable Double Bi curls-2x12
Focus/Balance/Concentration
BR Med Ball chest pass-2x10 each side
Weapon X-2x10 each side

Friday-
Linear Speed-6x30 yds, low intensity
Power-2-3 minute recovery
Jump Squat- 3x3
Power lunge- 3x3
Hypertrophy-60 seconds recovery
Eccentric Hip Flexion-2x12
Eccentric GHR-2x12
Focus/Balance/Concentration
1-leg squat to med ball free throw-2x10
1-leg med ball bowling toss and catch-2x10

That be it.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 12:48 PM

Today

Linear Speed-8 30yd sprints
Power-2-3 minute recovery
Hang Snatch 115 3x3
Bench Throw 90+ bar 3x3
Hypertrophy-60 second recovery
DB Shoulder Press-35s 2x12
reverse Grip Lat Pulldown-120 2x12
Pec Deck-120 2x12
Rear Delt raises-25s 2x12
Cable Pushdown-60 2x12
Hammer Curls-30s 2x12
Focus/Balance/Concentration
Weapon X-2x10 each side
1-leg squat to med ball free throw-2x10 each side

Had to do pec deck instead of incline flye, all benches were taken. Will increase Snatch, Lat Pulldown, tri pushdown, and prolly rear delt weights next week.

**P-funk** · 02-20-2006, 02:56 PM

no cleans?

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 03:17 PM

Nah, snatch took precedent since I haven't really given them any use in the past year. I am wanting my training volume low on upper body so that I can focus on the drills, hopefully the cleans I have done up to this point will prove to have been of some benefit. My next mesocycle I am going to center around the full clean, push press, and snatch, doing full body workouts each day to give something else a whirl. I actually thought about doing quad sets to get density up, a la Mike Boyle. For example, during lower body strength day, I would squat for a set, then do an upper body assistance exercise for 3 straight sets of 12 with 60 seconds rest after each set to get training density up. Still may do it at the end of this dealio.

**CowPimp** · 02-20-2006, 03:56 PM

I'm so glad the journal section has some more interesting approaches to training on display now. I seem to recall a time when everoyne's split was a different day for each body part M-F. Bleh.

Good looking routine. Do you have any specific goals in terms of weights moved, your vertical leap, a 40 yard dash time, etc?

**P-funk** · 02-20-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Nah, snatch took precedent since I haven't really given them any use in the past year. I am wanting my training volume low on upper body so that I can focus on the drills, hopefully the cleans I have done up to this point will prove to have been of some benefit. My next mesocycle I am going to center around the full clean, push press, and snatch, doing full body workouts each day to give something else a whirl. I actually thought about doing quad sets to get density up, a la Mike Boyle. For example, during lower body strength day, I would squat for a set, then do an upper body assistance exercise for 3 straight sets of 12 with 60 seconds rest after each set to get training density up. Still may do it at the end of this dealio.

yea, the quad sets are brutal....he uses no rest though!! It is lower body, upper body, core (usually some sort of stabalization) and then an active strecth. Then you are right back into lower body!! Fucking brutal.

**P-funk** · 02-20-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Do you have any specific goals in terms of weights moved, your vertical leap, a 40 yard dash time, etc?

I think his goal is to beat Ronnie Coleman in all of those events.

**CowPimp** · 02-20-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I think his goal is to beat Ronnie Coleman in all of those events.

I think Ronnie Coleman would die of a heartattack after running a 40. Heh.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-20-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I think his goal is to beat Ronnie Coleman in all of those events.

I could beat Ronnie COleman in the 40yd dash if I only used one leg right now.

Cow-My goal is actually to just try a bunch of different things over the next few months, kinda find something of my own thru all of the methods I try. I really like the concentration stuff, I didn't have much concentration today doing it last, though. The D-cups in the room prolly didn't help much either.

It is funny, I can sort of feel greater recruitment in my legs during the sprints, and I am able to get my CG much lower on the agility stuff now, allowing me to change direction quicker. I prolly won't time my 40 until I can do it outside with cleats, I slip on the gym floor coming out of a 3 pt stance.

**CowPimp** · 02-20-2006, 07:38 PM

Gotcha. Sounds like a good plan. I've been throwing in more unilateral movements that require some balance lately. I also throw in a little bit of agility type stuff in my cardio circuits. I do feel it makes a difference. Balancing during a bilateral movement is child's play once you get used to doing a lot of unilateral stuff.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-21-2006, 12:22 PM

Today-Changed some stuff
Agility
Pro Agility-8 sets
Resistance Training
Strength-2-3 minute recovery
Back Squat- 275 3x4
1-legged press- 215 3x4
Muscular Endurance-30 seconds recovery
Hip Flexion- 80 2x15
Leg Curl- 150 2x15
Focus/Balance/Concentration
BR med ball chest pass-6lbs 4x10
1-leg med ball bowling pass and catch-6lbs 4x10

Pro-Agility-I am happy to say that I am quite horrible at doing these things, good thing I added them. With 8 sets of them, that means I have 24 changes of direction. I estimate 3 of them were good. Some were because I slipped on the floor (I have to do them indoors until it gets warm), but since I got 3 of them right, it is possible to do them on the BBall court.
For some reason I thought I was supposed to do leg press today instead of Step ups so I decided to switch it. I did the leg presses on the machine and I will continue to do so. I also cut out 2 isolation exercises and will stick with only 2, I had no idea how hard 8 sets of the pro-agility would be on my legs.

I also shot some hoops when I was done for the calorie burn.

**P-funk** · 02-21-2006, 01:12 PM

what does Pro-agility consist of?

**Dale Mabry** · 02-21-2006, 03:30 PM

Set up a course, cone in center, 1 cone 5yds to the left, 1 cone 5yds to the right. Straddle the center line. On go, you turn to either side and sprint to the cone. When you reach the cone, you change directions and go to the cone all the way on the other side. Once you reach the cone on the opposite side, you change direction again and sprint thru the center cone.

topolo · 02-21-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Set up a course, cone in center, 1 cone 5yds to the left, 1 cone 5yds to the right. Straddle the center line. On go, you turn to either side and sprint to the cone. When you reach the cone, you change directions and go to the cone all the way on the other side. Once you reach the cone on the opposite side, you change direction again and sprint thru the center cone.

ghey

**P-funk** · 02-22-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Set up a course, cone in center, 1 cone 5yds to the left, 1 cone 5yds to the right. Straddle the center line. On go, you turn to either side and sprint to the cone. When you reach the cone, you change directions and go to the cone all the way on the other side. Once you reach the cone on the opposite side, you change direction again and sprint thru the center cone.

Oh yea. I didn't know what it was called.

Last year at the Arnold classic strength and conditioning convention Sandler was talking about it. He had video clips of some football players he trains running it. And he would freeze the video and highlight things about each player was cutting, or their gate, or their posture around the turns and through the end of the sprint etc...pretty cool shit.

**CowPimp** · 02-23-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Set up a course, cone in center, 1 cone 5yds to the left, 1 cone 5yds to the right. Straddle the center line. On go, you turn to either side and sprint to the cone. When you reach the cone, you change directions and go to the cone all the way on the other side. Once you reach the cone on the opposite side, you change direction again and sprint thru the center cone.

Sounds pretty cool. Just to get my conceptualization on point, do the cones form a triangle?

**Dale Mabry** · 02-23-2006, 12:23 PM

No, a straight line, I should have mentioned that.

Ok, I am going to run down today point by point, I suffered probably one of the most significant, acutely painful exercises I can remember suffering.

So, I do my warm up and do 8 sets of zig zag agility stuff, felt really good, zipped right thru them. I decide I am going to do plyos in between my upper body sets since I was unable to do them yesterday, I was too sore to get any benefit from it.

So, Here is how resistance training went, I did Strength/Muscular Endurance.

A1 Bench Press 275 3x3
A2 1-Leg Depth Drops 35lbs 3x4

So I supersetted those, not too bad. I am not going to just do unloading weeks every 4-6 weeks from now on. At the end of my last meso with bench I was getting 295 for 4 sets of 4 and I was still gaining strength so I will wait until I plateau from now on. Anyway, next...

B1 Wide Grip Pull Ups- 3x4
B2 Quick Response Tuck Jumps- 3x6

Went by good.

C1 DB Shoulder Press-65 3x4
C2 1-leg vert leap- 3x4

So, I see some retards are humping away on the cable machines so i go out of order and decide to do Lat raises first. I grab 20s and my first rep is great, I bring the weights to the bottom to start the second rep, they accidentally clank, and I bring them up for the top of the second rep. All of a sudden, one of the...Words cannot even describe the pain I was in...worst pains I have ever felt came over me. At that point, I had an out of body experience and relived the past. I saw me completing my first rep and dropping the weights in front of me, accidentally clanging them. Being out of my body, I noticed something. I noticed that I got a pretty good amount of my shorts caught between the weights at the bottom. At this point I was back in my body and clutching my dick, I pinched that motherfucker bad! I looked down my drawers and noticed an area about the size of a pea cut in half that was swelling and purple. I went to the bathroom and went into a shitter to regroup. I cannot tell you how much that fucking hurt. Anyway, after about what seemed like hours, I went back out and completed the day.

Lat raises-20s- 2x15
DB Scaption-15s 2x15
Cable reverse grip row-105 2x15
1-arm db tri extension-20 2x15
Double Bicep cable curl-35 2x15
Low Cable Crossovers-40-2x15

Balance/Focus/Concentration
BR Med ball Chest Pass-6lbs ball 4x10
Weapon X-6lbs med ball 4x10

Man, my dick still hurts.

**IainDaniel** · 02-23-2006, 01:02 PM

LOL Damn..... Topolo will be happy with the swelling though

**P-funk** · 02-23-2006, 02:05 PM

jesus...I have no words...NONE.

**Dale Mabry** · 02-23-2006, 02:16 PM

It has gotten more purple, but at least it no longer hurts...much.

02-17-2006, 05:43 PM	#61
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	I played with some of the se again today and did some plyos, still trying to get over the flu. So P, you could stand on a stability ball, that's pretty good. I tried a couple of times but just said fuck it and stopped.
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02-20-2006, 12:45 PM	#65
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	Here is the next 4-6 week mesocycle. Monday Linear Speed-8 30yd sprints Resistance Training Power-2-3 minute recovery Hang Snatch 3x3 Bench Throw 3x3 Hypertrophy-60 second recovery DB Shoulder Press-2x12 reverse Grip Lat Pulldown-2x12 Incline Flyes-2x12 Rear Delt raises-2x12 Cable Pushdown-2x12 Hammer Curls-2x12 Focus/Balance/Concentration Weapon X-2x10 each side 1-leg squat to med ball free throw-2x10 each side Tuesday- Agility Pro Agility-8 sets Resistance Training Strength-2-3 minute recovery Back Squat- 3x4 Step ups- 3x4 Muscular Endurance-30 seconds recovery Leg Extensions- 2x15 Leg Curl- 2x15 Hip Flexion- 2x15 Reverse Hypers- 2x15 Focus/Balance/Concentration BR med ball chest pass-4x10 1-leg med ball bowling pass and catch-4x10 Wednesday- Linear Speed-8 10yd sprints Plyos-Don't know what my plyo routine is yet Thursday- Agility-zigzag pattern-6 sets Strength-2-3 minute recovery Flat Bench- 3x4 Wide Grip Pull-ups- 3x4 Shoulder Press-3x4 Muscular Endruance-30 seconds Recovery Low cable crossover-2x12 Reverse Grip Cable Row-2x12 Lat raise-2x12 Db Scaption-2x12 1-arm db extension-2x12 Cable Double Bi curls-2x12 Focus/Balance/Concentration BR Med Ball chest pass-2x10 each side Weapon X-2x10 each side Friday- Linear Speed-6x30 yds, low intensity Power-2-3 minute recovery Jump Squat- 3x3 Power lunge- 3x3 Hypertrophy-60 seconds recovery Eccentric Hip Flexion-2x12 Eccentric GHR-2x12 Focus/Balance/Concentration 1-leg squat to med ball free throw-2x10 1-leg med ball bowling toss and catch-2x10 That be it.
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02-20-2006, 12:48 PM	#66
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	Today Linear Speed-8 30yd sprints Power-2-3 minute recovery Hang Snatch 115 3x3 Bench Throw 90+ bar 3x3 Hypertrophy-60 second recovery DB Shoulder Press-35s 2x12 reverse Grip Lat Pulldown-120 2x12 Pec Deck-120 2x12 Rear Delt raises-25s 2x12 Cable Pushdown-60 2x12 Hammer Curls-30s 2x12 Focus/Balance/Concentration Weapon X-2x10 each side 1-leg squat to med ball free throw-2x10 each side Had to do pec deck instead of incline flye, all benches were taken. Will increase Snatch, Lat Pulldown, tri pushdown, and prolly rear delt weights next week.
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02-20-2006, 02:56 PM	#67
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	no cleans?
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02-20-2006, 03:17 PM	#68
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	Nah, snatch took precedent since I haven't really given them any use in the past year. I am wanting my training volume low on upper body so that I can focus on the drills, hopefully the cleans I have done up to this point will prove to have been of some benefit. My next mesocycle I am going to center around the full clean, push press, and snatch, doing full body workouts each day to give something else a whirl. I actually thought about doing quad sets to get density up, a la Mike Boyle. For example, during lower body strength day, I would squat for a set, then do an upper body assistance exercise for 3 straight sets of 12 with 60 seconds rest after each set to get training density up. Still may do it at the end of this dealio.
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02-20-2006, 03:56 PM	#69
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,405	I'm so glad the journal section has some more interesting approaches to training on display now. I seem to recall a time when everoyne's split was a different day for each body part M-F. Bleh. Good looking routine. Do you have any specific goals in terms of weights moved, your vertical leap, a 40 yard dash time, etc?
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02-20-2006, 07:38 PM	#74
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,405	Gotcha. Sounds like a good plan. I've been throwing in more unilateral movements that require some balance lately. I also throw in a little bit of agility type stuff in my cardio circuits. I do feel it makes a difference. Balancing during a bilateral movement is child's play once you get used to doing a lot of unilateral stuff.
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02-21-2006, 12:22 PM	#75
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	Today-Changed some stuff Agility Pro Agility-8 sets Resistance Training Strength-2-3 minute recovery Back Squat- 275 3x4 1-legged press- 215 3x4 Muscular Endurance-30 seconds recovery Hip Flexion- 80 2x15 Leg Curl- 150 2x15 Focus/Balance/Concentration BR med ball chest pass-6lbs 4x10 1-leg med ball bowling pass and catch-6lbs 4x10 Pro-Agility-I am happy to say that I am quite horrible at doing these things, good thing I added them. With 8 sets of them, that means I have 24 changes of direction. I estimate 3 of them were good. Some were because I slipped on the floor (I have to do them indoors until it gets warm), but since I got 3 of them right, it is possible to do them on the BBall court. For some reason I thought I was supposed to do leg press today instead of Step ups so I decided to switch it. I did the leg presses on the machine and I will continue to do so. I also cut out 2 isolation exercises and will stick with only 2, I had no idea how hard 8 sets of the pro-agility would be on my legs. I also shot some hoops when I was done for the calorie burn.
	If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

02-21-2006, 01:12 PM	#76
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	what does Pro-agility consist of?
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02-21-2006, 03:30 PM	#77
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	Set up a course, cone in center, 1 cone 5yds to the left, 1 cone 5yds to the right. Straddle the center line. On go, you turn to either side and sprint to the cone. When you reach the cone, you change directions and go to the cone all the way on the other side. Once you reach the cone on the opposite side, you change direction again and sprint thru the center cone.
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02-23-2006, 12:23 PM	#81
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	No, a straight line, I should have mentioned that. Ok, I am going to run down today point by point, I suffered probably one of the most significant, acutely painful exercises I can remember suffering. So, I do my warm up and do 8 sets of zig zag agility stuff, felt really good, zipped right thru them. I decide I am going to do plyos in between my upper body sets since I was unable to do them yesterday, I was too sore to get any benefit from it. So, Here is how resistance training went, I did Strength/Muscular Endurance. A1 Bench Press 275 3x3 A2 1-Leg Depth Drops 35lbs 3x4 So I supersetted those, not too bad. I am not going to just do unloading weeks every 4-6 weeks from now on. At the end of my last meso with bench I was getting 295 for 4 sets of 4 and I was still gaining strength so I will wait until I plateau from now on. Anyway, next... B1 Wide Grip Pull Ups- 3x4 B2 Quick Response Tuck Jumps- 3x6 Went by good. C1 DB Shoulder Press-65 3x4 C2 1-leg vert leap- 3x4 So, I see some retards are humping away on the cable machines so i go out of order and decide to do Lat raises first. I grab 20s and my first rep is great, I bring the weights to the bottom to start the second rep, they accidentally clank, and I bring them up for the top of the second rep. All of a sudden, one of the...Words cannot even describe the pain I was in...worst pains I have ever felt came over me. At that point, I had an out of body experience and relived the past. I saw me completing my first rep and dropping the weights in front of me, accidentally clanging them. Being out of my body, I noticed something. I noticed that I got a pretty good amount of my shorts caught between the weights at the bottom. At this point I was back in my body and clutching my dick, I pinched that motherfucker bad! I looked down my drawers and noticed an area about the size of a pea cut in half that was swelling and purple. I went to the bathroom and went into a shitter to regroup. I cannot tell you how much that fucking hurt. Anyway, after about what seemed like hours, I went back out and completed the day. Lat raises-20s- 2x15 DB Scaption-15s 2x15 Cable reverse grip row-105 2x15 1-arm db tri extension-20 2x15 Double Bicep cable curl-35 2x15 Low Cable Crossovers-40-2x15 Balance/Focus/Concentration BR Med ball Chest Pass-6lbs ball 4x10 Weapon X-6lbs med ball 4x10 Man, my dick still hurts.
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02-23-2006, 01:02 PM	#82
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02-23-2006, 02:05 PM	#83
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	jesus...I have no words...NONE.
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02-23-2006, 02:16 PM	#84
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 13,838 Photos: 10	It has gotten more purple, but at least it no longer hurts...much.
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