fufu

I know what you mean. If I was held back by injury I'd feel like shit. If you can't enjoy yourself, live just sucks.

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Brutus_G

Kelju remmber man it could be worse to. If you had a knee injury or a shoulder injury. Im sure you'll get better fast. BTW 100 pound dips for reps damn i can do 4 at my bw lol. What is your program? push pull legs?

"My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

KelJu

Oh thanks man. I have been using push/pull/legs with an alternating periodization scheme for the last 3 months. Before that I was doing push/pull/legs coupled with p/rr/s. Both are good programs.

Trouble

Hand pain is a grip issue? Maybe Patrick will show up and comment on the possibility. For this injury, I strongly recommend you find and use Traumeel, a theraputic cream that works wonders (I kid you not, this stuff is dynamite) for this type of overuse/strain injury.

Sleep is going to suck for a while. I would look back on your daytime activies the other day, see if you had excess stress surge (anger does it), used stims late in the day, missed a meal, or ate a bit late in the morning. When you go for that early morning run, make sure you eat first, as it can cause blood sugar yo yo effects that cause a weird "delay" and rebound in cortisol, hitting hard when melatonin should be peaking at 1-2am.

Hang in there. Nice journal, very solid training program. You look great in your pics. Update your thread in the health section when you have a chance - let us know how you are progressing with skin/sleep/mood issues.

Brutus_G

trouble how do you know so much?

"My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

viet_jon

WOw....you really are insane.!!!!

I love dog meat.

Trouble

Kelju, Patrick and I would like to know:

What is the nature of your hand pain - where it is located? Can you describe it for us (type of pain)? What movments cause pain when you flex your hand in different positions?

It maybe that your grip on the bar or machine is the problem; my concern would be that if you don't identify the cause, you might face repetitive injury (chronic strain, tendonistis).

Have you changed up grips recently; did you change something in your workout that might correlate with this injury?

KelJu

Sunday 09/17/2006
1.3 mile Run - 10:20.46

My running is getting stronger. I hope to knock out 4 miles in a month’s time. My workouts have been exponentially better since I have started running. I have the energy to finish the last set of deadlifts or squats without that light headed feeling, and my cardiovascular recovery is better.

KelJu

Sunday 09/17/2006
Pull Day / (5-8) Range
Deadlifts: (2m RI)
Set 1: 225 x 8
Set 2: 275 x 8
Set 3: 295 x 5
Set 4: 315 x 5 *PR

Chin-Ups: (2m RI)
Set 1: BW x 12
Set 2: BW x 8
Set 3: BW+25 x 5
Set 4: BW+35 x 4

T-Bar Row: (2m RI)
Set 1: 90 x 10 (Pronated)
Set 2: 90 x 8 (Supinated)
Set 3: 90 x 6 (Pronated)
Set 4: 90 x 6 (Supinated)


Barbell Shrugs: (2m RI)
Set 1: 155 x 20
Set 2: 205 x 15
Set 3: 235 x 15 *PR
Set 4: 255 x 15 *PR

Barbell Curls: (2m RI)
Set 1: 95 x 8
Set 2: 100 x 6
Set 3: 110 x 5
Set 4: 115 x 4

I had an excellent workout. My hand didn't hurt, so I have no complaints.

fufu

good shit. Congrats on the PR. How did your back feel?

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KelJu

I appreciate your concern and your kind words. You are right on with the grip. It seems that a wide grip hurts like hell, and causes inflammation and pain later, while a narrow grip does not aggravate my hand. My hand hurts at work all of the time, because the thing that hurts my hand the most is picking up heavy furniture at work in a way that the furniture is always pushing on my hand in that trouble spot.
I don’t know what to do. I can’t take off of work, because I live from check to check. I am going to keep taking the pills that the doctor gave me and maybe my hand will heal.




I circled the area that hurts.


If anything pushes on my hand at that position that the arrow is pointing, the area I scribbled in throbs.

Trouble

Your work is aggravating the dip between pads of muscle at the base of the thumb and index fingers. There are nerves that are shallow and easily pinched against the underlying bone/joint. Hard corners pressing into that area repeatedly (from moving heavy furniture) can cause the adjascent ennervated area of tissue to become inflammed and sore.

With your wide grip, you have what sounds like a wrist rotation problem. Patrick mentioned this as a possibility. He needs to see your position on the bar -get someone to take a picture of your hands and arms on the bar in both wide and narrow grip. My guess is that you are rotating your palms and wrists, placing most of the pressure for that hand on the affected area.

P-funk will need to see photos of your lifting position on the bar - get a friend to take them for you. He can tell you best if you have a technical grip problem that can be resolved by changing grip and wrist / forearm position under the bar. I have a feeling this is the cause of your persistant palm pain, but I maybe wrong.

Get that Traumeel cream, use it twice per day on the affected area (pressure point and tissue to the side of it). This is direct treatment of the area and will augment what ever anti-inflamms your doctor prescribed for you.

This may sound dumb, and you may get a rude comment on two, but get yourself chap padded (lifting or cycling) gloves to wear at work. This will cushion the chronic irritation to the interweb (thumb/forefinger) area of the palm.

KelJu

Monday 09/18/2006
1.5 mile Run - 10:59.44

My endurance is improving gradually. I can see 4 miles in the distance.

KelJu

I was stoned and depressed last night, so I hate 5 PB&J sandwiches on white bread.

I haven't broken away from my diet that bad in a while. I guess for the next few weeks, I need to adjust my diet to compensate for the bomb I dropped on my macros.

Trouble

No, when you are in a depressed phase, you need to avoid smoking. Since you are running and working out fairly intensely, I wouldn't worry overly about correcting for energy surplus or deficit for that one transgression. It may play havoc with your skin problem, but that will be temporary.

BigDyl

Running and squating during the same cycle is bad news. Your knee joints will be feeling it. I wouldn't run that much if I were you. Instead do low impact cardio... also it's uber catabolic.

Total ownage.

KelJu

You think so? I run on my toes which I figured would absorb a lot of shock. I have never had a knee problem, knock on wood, so I didn't know those two combined are a hazard. Running is the only cardio I have ever done. I don't have anywhere to swim, and I hate using machines to do cardio. I like the outdoors, and I enjoy checking out the scenery in the back of my neighborhood while I run.
You might be right, but I am enjoying the running too much to quit now, so I will keep a close check on my legs, and if I ever start to develop any pain in my knees I will stop running.

Brutus_G

Nice deadlifts and chins

"My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

KelJu

Thanks dude. I am happy with my deads, but I am not progressing fast enough on the chins, but I will take what I can get.


Tuesday 09/19/06
Leg Day / (1-5) Range


Squats: (3m RI)
Set 1: 225 x 6
Set 2: 295 x 6
Set 3: 315 x 5
Set 4: 335 x 3 *PR

Leg Press: (3m RI)
Set 1: 315 x 6
Set 2: 405 x 6
Set 3: 495 x 6
Set 4: 545 x 8 *PR

Lying Leg Curls: (3m RI)
Set 1: 150 x 6
Set 2: 160 x 6
Set 3: 170 x 5
Set 4: 180 x 3

Standing Calf Raises: (1m RI)
Set 1: 300 x 25
Set 2: 300 x 25
Set 3: 350 x 15 + 10s static squeeze at the end *PR
Set 4: 350 x 15 + 10s static squeeze at the end *PR

Seated Calf Raises: (1m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 60
Set 2: 135 x 60
Set 3: 135 x 60 *PR




Wow! I got nothing else to say but wow. My workout went great, but as soon as I left the gym, my Aunt called me to ell me that my Pawpaw had a stroke this morning, so I rushed to spring hill hospital to see him. He looked pretty good for being a 95 year old man that had a stroke. The first thing he said when He awoke was where is my money? Lawl!
Luckily it wasn’t a stroke. His blood pressure had fallen too low causing him to fall and pass out in his garden. Luckily his neighbor was a doctor, and he got help fast. It has been a weird day, and I now have to go to class.

fufu

Big ol' kick ass workout.

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Bakerboy

Your Pawpaw sounds like he still has a lot left in the tank. He sounds like a fighter like you. Nice squats.

No strength within, no respect without - Kasmiri Proverb

fufu

Yeah, how hard was your last set? Gonna keep bumping the weight up?

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KelJu

3 was damn near failure, so I doubt I could have gotten 4. I am still eating tons, so i am sure I will be able to bump the weight up by 20lbs by my next power cycle.

Brutus_G

man 60 rep calf raises damn. What is your 1 rep max on bench?

"My main objective is to be professional but to kill him." "I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people."- Mike Tyson

KelJu

To be honest I don't know. I am too scared of injuring my shoulder again to go for a 1RM flat bench press. I would guess it is close to 280 atm, but it was closer to