About that time I (nutrition)

Stewart20 · 10-11-2006, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Well my brother worked out with me today, so I decided to do

ME Bench
Bench
135x8
185x5
225x3
250x3
275x3
285x1
305x1
315x1 (a 10lb improvement from last time!)

Incline
185x10
195x9
205x8

1-Arm Rows
110x10
120x10
120x10

Skulls
110x10
110x10
110x10

Alternating DB Curls
35x10
35x10
35x10

Bent Over Laterals
25lb Db'sx10
25lb Db'sx10
25lb Db'sx10

213.3 (feel kinda chubby after yesterday, but abs are still visible so it will be ok)

how are you liking the program so far? Bench was nice, but those rows are even nicer, that's good stuff right there

**Jodi** · 10-11-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

So far today:

grams cals %total
Total: 1092
Fat: 46 416 38%
Sat: 11 101 9%
Poly: 4 32 3%
Mono: 17 156 14%
Carbs: 42 139 13%
Fiber: 8 0 0%
Protein: 136 543 49%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

And I got up at 8:30 pm, to begin my midnights. Only got 5 hours of sleep at that. I realize now how many more grams of protein I have been taken in compared to my carbs, but today I have a little better effort, I have eaten some red potatoes and of course got my veggies in.

With your goals to add LBM, you got to get your carbs. Most people here, IMO, get too much protein.

JerseyDevil · 10-11-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Well my brother worked out with me today, so I decided to do

ME Bench
Bench
135x8
185x5
225x3
250x3
275x3
285x1
305x1
315x1 (a 10lb improvement from last time!)

Incline
185x10
195x9
205x8

1-Arm Rows
110x10
120x10
120x10

Skulls
110x10
110x10
110x10

Alternating DB Curls
35x10
35x10
35x10

Bent Over Laterals
25lb Db'sx10
25lb Db'sx10
25lb Db'sx10

213.3 (feel kinda chubby after yesterday, but abs are still visible so it will be ok)

Solid workout Double! Impressive strength.

Brutus_G · 10-11-2006, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

With your goals to add LBM, you got to get your carbs. Most people here, IMO, get too much protein.

LOL you would'nt like my diet then

Brutus_G · 10-11-2006, 02:33 PM

That is some heavy benching Double D. Do you find the skullcrushers hurt your elbows?

Burner02 · 10-11-2006, 03:38 PM

110lbs Skulls? u animal!
I was ablwe todo that weight a long time ago...it did hurt my elbows....I found, using the outer curve of the camber bar, it didn't hurt as much..now I just can't do that much weight...right now...

Nice workout!

Tom_B · 10-11-2006, 03:47 PM

Very great workout!
Like Jodi said up those carbs! By od'ing on the protein, it's basically like eating the carbs. Your just wasting money/calories and not getting some much needed fibre/vitamin/minerals

LOL I know the feeling of 'chubby' right now. Still holding some water from Thanksgiving, although unlike you I don;t have abs so it's all pudge (lucky bastard! hahaha)

Malley · 10-11-2006, 11:09 PM

Stewart Rows were a little tough, however I think I probably couldve increased weight a little. I really do like the program thus far. Tommorow is my ME Squat.

Jodi I'll try my damndest to get my carbs up. What do you think about carbs before bedtime? Good or bad right now?

JD Thanks buddy, I am starting to get back where I was a few years back!

Brutus Skulls used to not bother my elbows at all, but it does bother my elbows slightly. A few years back I was actually doing 140lbs on skulls for 10 reps. I want back to that!

Burner Thanks buddy, I do believe in a few months I will have those back to the way they used to be!

Tom Well Tom I can feel myself getting a little chubbier everyday. My abs are starting to go away and am starting to get me some little love handles!! URGH.....wow I hate that. But I am going to continue on my bulk until atleast my bench hits around 350! And yes those carbs are going to have to increase.

Stewart20 · 10-12-2006, 07:05 AM

oh how I remember the days of heavy skulls and db extensions, I just don't think it's in the cards now, fricken tendinitis

I used to do 1 arm db tricep overhead extensions with a 55 pound db for 10 reps on each arm. THAT was cool.....but that was also about 8 years ago too.....8 years of pounding on the elbows takes its toll....

If I were you, being that you are still kind of young, PROTECT THOSE ELBOWS! it isn't worth it to try to do 140 pound skulls if it messes up your elbows and then you can't do pressing stuff. At least now I can still press heavy, if I kept up with the extensions, who knows....

would you rather bench 400, or skull crush (that sounds a little funny) 150 pounds? BE CAREFUL

Stewart20 · 10-12-2006, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

With your goals to add LBM, you got to get your carbs. Most people here, IMO, get too much protein.

What do you consider to be too much protein?

JerseyDevil · 10-12-2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart20

oh how I remember the days of heavy skulls and db extensions, I just don't think it's in the cards now, fricken tendinitis

BE CAREFUL

Good advice! I can relate to that. I used to do the same, but now my elbows (especially the left) are screwed up.

**Jodi** · 10-12-2006, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart20

What do you consider to be too much protein?

Anything more than 1.5G protein time bodyweight. The body doesn't anymore protein than that and it can't process as you intend it to. All you are doing is 1 of 2 things.

1. Gluconeogenesis
2. Pissing it out and wasting it

More than likely number 1.

**Jodi** · 10-12-2006, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Stewart Rows were a little tough, however I think I probably couldve increased weight a little. I really do like the program thus far. Tommorow is my ME Squat.

Jodi I'll try my damndest to get my carbs up. What do you think about carbs before bedtime? Good or bad right now?

JD Thanks buddy, I am starting to get back where I was a few years back!

Brutus Skulls used to not bother my elbows at all, but it does bother my elbows slightly. A few years back I was actually doing 140lbs on skulls for 10 reps. I want back to that!

Burner Thanks buddy, I do believe in a few months I will have those back to the way they used to be!

Tom Well Tom I can feel myself getting a little chubbier everyday. My abs are starting to go away and am starting to get me some little love handles!! URGH.....wow I hate that. But I am going to continue on my bulk until atleast my bench hits around 350! And yes those carbs are going to have to increase.

I feel it's best to stay away from carbs in your last meal unless its your PWO meal.

Stewart20 · 10-12-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Anything more than 1.5G protein time bodyweight. The body doesn't anymore protein than that and it can't process as you intend it to. All you are doing is 1 of 2 things.

1. Gluconeogenesis
2. Pissing it out and wasting it

More than likely number 1.

ok thanks!

I didn't know that excess protein gets pissed out, I always assumed you just pooped it out or something. Is there a way of knowing if you are pissing out protein, ie, does the urine become discolored or smell?

**Jodi** · 10-12-2006, 12:29 PM

More than likely it's not pissed out but it turns into glucose through gluconeogenesis.

Malley · 10-13-2006, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

More than likely it's not pissed out but it turns into glucose through gluconeogenesis.

Which is turned into fat. URGH!!!! I do however need to get my carbs up. I was thinking about that today on my way into work, for the 30th day in a row!!!

Malley · 10-13-2006, 12:54 AM

Stewart Yeah I know about the whole hurting my elbows thing, and you are right. Whenever I was younger I never felt it at all on my elbows! Now I am feeling an aweful lot of pulling here of late. I wil be careful of that!

Malley · 10-13-2006, 12:58 AM

Well guys I have been completely exhausted here of late. I just started midnights a few night ago and tonight is my 3rd one. I got 5 more left! But after tonight I only got 3 more 12 hour shifts after tonight! Wow I have now worked 25 12 hour shifts in the past month and 4 8 hour shifts and I came in for a single 4 hour shift! Wow this has really taken a toll on me! I actually skipped a workout today, because I overslept and didnt have time to workout and come into work on time. I am very frustrated at this time!!! I really havent had a very good diet of the last few days either, I have basically stopped eating! I think I did eat a few hours ago. I ate 2 red potatoes, 6 ounces steak, and green beans. Other than that I have been up since 8:30 and its now 2 and thats the only thing I have ate. I feel like everytime I want to put something into my mouth, I feel like I am going to puke! Wish me luck guys.

Stewart20 · 10-13-2006, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Which is turned into fat. URGH!!!! I do however need to get my carbs up. I was thinking about that today on my way into work, for the 30th day in a row!!!

I am gonna try an experiment to see what happens....I had been drinking 3 shakes per day, 2 scoops of protein powder in each one, so pretty much it was about 50g protein in each shake. The experiment is to drop the morning and before bed shake down to 1 scoop or around 25 g, and keep the middle one at 50, that is my usual post workout drink anyway, so we want to keep that high , and on off days, I'll just keep it the same to be consistent.

I look at my diet and it looks pretty good, so I was wondering why although the rest of me is pretty cut, I can't get rid of anything in the midsection. My experiment will see if I am in fact taking in too much protein and that it is being stored in the wrong places....

Malley · 10-13-2006, 11:32 PM

Sounds good to me Stew. I would like to see what happens as well. as far as I go this overtime is starting to get to me. I have gained some fat around my midsection and around my waist. Although I can still see my abs, I am feeling like a huge lardass! What do you guys think I should do? Keep trying for stregnth and size and worry about the cut later, ot go ahead and cut?

Malley · 10-14-2006, 05:46 AM

Well I have been on midnights and I havent ate anything tonight at all. Just cant bring myself to do it. I feel as if I am sick. I am totally stressed out and feel like sleeping all the time. Plus it doesnt help that my wife is being a total well I guess I will go with a butthead. She thinks that whenever I go to work she needs to start a drinking binge. But both of my girls are in bed. what if they wake up and need something and she is to drunk to help them? Wow yeah I get really mad at her whenever she tries to pull that shit. Not to mention she lied to me and said that she was going to bed. Give me a break that get really old. Anyways enough venting. I love my wife a ton along with my babies, but as of now I am just throwing my hands up on this one.

Stewart20 · 10-14-2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Sounds good to me Stew. I would like to see what happens as well. as far as I go this overtime is starting to get to me. I have gained some fat around my midsection and around my waist. Although I can still see my abs, I am feeling like a huge lardass! What do you guys think I should do? Keep trying for stregnth and size and worry about the cut later, ot go ahead and cut?

well, I would keep the stength and size thing going...it is going into the winter you know, not exactly beach weather, the only people seeing your abs or lack there of would be you and your wife, so get the size and worry about the abs next year, ya know? Besides, when you wear your "winter clothes" the bigger you actually are, the better you will look...it does no good to be ripped underneath layers of clothing, you'll just look smaller in reality, and I doubt you want that.

Eat everything in sight, get big and strong, and worry about the diet when the warm weather comes back around

Malley · 10-14-2006, 07:52 AM

Thanks Stew.....appreciate the advice. I will continue with what is working.

Malley · 10-14-2006, 09:16 AM

Well I decided to give some of my overtime to another guy because I know I need the rest. So 1 got one more 12 hour shift and then I have a few 8 hour shifts so I can get back to being normal. It will feel pretty nice!

**Jodi** · 10-14-2006, 11:30 AM

DD, I am getting a bit worried about you. You aren't getting enough sleep, you aren't eating enough, you are working too much, you are stressed about home life now and your wife now...........I have something I want you to read on what you are doing to your body right now. It's about 70 pages. If you are interested, please PM me your email addy.

10-11-2006, 02:33 PM	#365
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10-11-2006, 03:38 PM	#366
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,316	110lbs Skulls? u animal! I was ablwe todo that weight a long time ago...it did hurt my elbows....I found, using the outer curve of the camber bar, it didn't hurt as much..now I just can't do that much weight...right now... Nice workout!
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10-11-2006, 03:47 PM	#367
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	Very great workout! Like Jodi said up those carbs! By od'ing on the protein, it's basically like eating the carbs. Your just wasting money/calories and not getting some much needed fibre/vitamin/minerals LOL I know the feeling of 'chubby' right now. Still holding some water from Thanksgiving, although unlike you I don;t have abs so it's all pudge (lucky bastard! hahaha)

10-11-2006, 11:09 PM	#368
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Stewart Rows were a little tough, however I think I probably couldve increased weight a little. I really do like the program thus far. Tommorow is my ME Squat. Jodi I'll try my damndest to get my carbs up. What do you think about carbs before bedtime? Good or bad right now? JD Thanks buddy, I am starting to get back where I was a few years back! Brutus Skulls used to not bother my elbows at all, but it does bother my elbows slightly. A few years back I was actually doing 140lbs on skulls for 10 reps. I want back to that! Burner Thanks buddy, I do believe in a few months I will have those back to the way they used to be! Tom Well Tom I can feel myself getting a little chubbier everyday. My abs are starting to go away and am starting to get me some little love handles!! URGH.....wow I hate that. But I am going to continue on my bulk until atleast my bench hits around 350! And yes those carbs are going to have to increase.
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10-12-2006, 07:05 AM	#369
Stewart20 I do it all for him Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 2,861 Photos: 2	oh how I remember the days of heavy skulls and db extensions, I just don't think it's in the cards now, fricken tendinitis I used to do 1 arm db tricep overhead extensions with a 55 pound db for 10 reps on each arm. THAT was cool.....but that was also about 8 years ago too.....8 years of pounding on the elbows takes its toll.... If I were you, being that you are still kind of young, PROTECT THOSE ELBOWS! it isn't worth it to try to do 140 pound skulls if it messes up your elbows and then you can't do pressing stuff. At least now I can still press heavy, if I kept up with the extensions, who knows.... would you rather bench 400, or skull crush (that sounds a little funny) 150 pounds? BE CAREFUL
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10-12-2006, 12:29 PM	#375
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	More than likely it's not pissed out but it turns into glucose through gluconeogenesis.
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10-13-2006, 12:54 AM	#377
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Stewart Yeah I know about the whole hurting my elbows thing, and you are right. Whenever I was younger I never felt it at all on my elbows! Now I am feeling an aweful lot of pulling here of late. I wil be careful of that!
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10-13-2006, 12:58 AM	#378
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Well guys I have been completely exhausted here of late. I just started midnights a few night ago and tonight is my 3rd one. I got 5 more left! But after tonight I only got 3 more 12 hour shifts after tonight! Wow I have now worked 25 12 hour shifts in the past month and 4 8 hour shifts and I came in for a single 4 hour shift! Wow this has really taken a toll on me! I actually skipped a workout today, because I overslept and didnt have time to workout and come into work on time. I am very frustrated at this time!!! I really havent had a very good diet of the last few days either, I have basically stopped eating! I think I did eat a few hours ago. I ate 2 red potatoes, 6 ounces steak, and green beans. Other than that I have been up since 8:30 and its now 2 and thats the only thing I have ate. I feel like everytime I want to put something into my mouth, I feel like I am going to puke! Wish me luck guys.
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10-13-2006, 11:32 PM	#380
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Sounds good to me Stew. I would like to see what happens as well. as far as I go this overtime is starting to get to me. I have gained some fat around my midsection and around my waist. Although I can still see my abs, I am feeling like a huge lardass! What do you guys think I should do? Keep trying for stregnth and size and worry about the cut later, ot go ahead and cut?
	www.crossfit.com

10-14-2006, 05:46 AM	#381
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Well I have been on midnights and I havent ate anything tonight at all. Just cant bring myself to do it. I feel as if I am sick. I am totally stressed out and feel like sleeping all the time. Plus it doesnt help that my wife is being a total well I guess I will go with a butthead. She thinks that whenever I go to work she needs to start a drinking binge. But both of my girls are in bed. what if they wake up and need something and she is to drunk to help them? Wow yeah I get really mad at her whenever she tries to pull that shit. Not to mention she lied to me and said that she was going to bed. Give me a break that get really old. Anyways enough venting. I love my wife a ton along with my babies, but as of now I am just throwing my hands up on this one.
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10-14-2006, 07:52 AM	#383
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Thanks Stew.....appreciate the advice. I will continue with what is working.
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10-14-2006, 09:16 AM	#384
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Well I decided to give some of my overtime to another guy because I know I need the rest. So 1 got one more 12 hour shift and then I have a few 8 hour shifts so I can get back to being normal. It will feel pretty nice!
	www.crossfit.com

10-14-2006, 11:30 AM	#385
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	DD, I am getting a bit worried about you. You aren't getting enough sleep, you aren't eating enough, you are working too much, you are stressed about home life now and your wife now...........I have something I want you to read on what you are doing to your body right now. It's about 70 pages. If you are interested, please PM me your email addy.
	Essence EFA