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Double D · 10-17-2006, 11:15 PM

Brutus-Those rows are pretty tough! I felt like I was going to puke after a while!

JD-Glad to inspire someone along the way. My numbers definitly have been jumping up some. Do keep in mind that my all time high on bench was 365 and they say muscle has memory so I think that it should be kinda easy to reach that, but then I want to do above and beyond that! And who are you kiddding your incline presses are massive.

Double D · 10-17-2006, 11:21 PM

Well I decided to go back to speed workouts instead of reps just because after all the reading I have did I want to get the most out of my strength!

Weigh this morning at 213.2lbs.

DE Squat
Speed Squats
175x3-for 10 sets
*Super fast and super effective!

SLDL
275x8 for 3 sets (not hard should've went up to 300 or so)

Pullups
3x8 for 3 sets

Hyperextensions
BW+25lbsx10 for 4 sets

Decline Weighted Crunches
BW+25lbsx20 for 3 sets.

Workout time-50minutes

All in all pretty exhausting, but I feel it in my back something serious!

Stewart20 · 10-18-2006, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

SLDL
275x8 for 3 sets (not hard should've went up to 300 or so)

All in all pretty exhausting, but I feel it in my back something serious!

yeah well that's what happens when you do 24 SLDLs with 275 pounds! How do you do your stiff legs? I ask because I read about a technique where you place your toes on 25 pound plates and then lift the bar off the floor, stopping short of coming all the way up to keep the tension on your legs and I tried it, and damn, I did those on Sunday with only 185 pounds and my hamstrings are still sore as shit today, and it's like 3 days later.

but I would love to someday be able to use 275 on this exercise, but I gots a long way to go for that

Stewart20 · 10-18-2006, 06:57 AM

Oh and by the way, if the Cardinals wind up winning the series against the Mets, I might have to stop giving you free advice, lol! I mean, I am a Yankees fan, but I still have to root for NY in this situation, so if you want your bench to keep going up, you'd better hope the mets win!

Tom_B · 10-18-2006, 09:07 AM

Great workout!!! .. LOL I can't stand High rep squats or SLDL's .. too barfy for me! Espically if they're back to back, Kudos to ya!

Brutus_G · 10-18-2006, 03:41 PM

sld like that must kill your hams

DeadBolt · 10-18-2006, 04:51 PM

Big D looking strong in here man...glad to see it!

Still cutting heavy or whats on the agenda for now?

JerseyDevil · 10-18-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

JD-Glad to inspire someone along the way. My numbers definitly have been jumping up some. Do keep in mind that my all time high on bench was 365 and they say muscle has memory so I think that it should be kinda easy to reach that, but then I want to do above and beyond that! And who are you kiddding your incline presses are massive.

My best all time was 320, but I would be lying if I didn't mention I was 'assisted', and I was holding back because I had some injuries. If I didn't I probably would have been closer to 345-350. Best natural is 300. I don't like doing singles anymore, mainly because it is hard on my arthritic elbows, so I try not to go below 4 reps. Honestly, I would be happy to maintain where I'm at, ain't gonna happen though. Instead I like to provide encouragement to people like yourself

. I would love to see you hit 8 plates!

Burner02 · 10-18-2006, 07:31 PM

nice workout, D!

Double D · 10-19-2006, 02:22 PM

Stew I am going to have to give those sldl a try! I am always up for improving! I wish I never wouldve taken like a year and a half off, I couldnt imagine where I would be. As far as the Mets tonight, I am very well prepared for this game! I have all my cards things on and I am pumped up for this. Really wish we couldve clenched last night with Carp going, but Soup is having a good year as well, I like our odds!

Tom I have puked many times on leg days. But that was on lifts that benefits me as a bodybuilder. As you can see now I am trying to increase all of my lifts and hoping to compete sometime in the next few years. The only thing is I am a very shy person and dont like alot of attention, however I have always drawn that to myself with my size over the past few years, which is the kind of attention I like, haha!

BrutusAnd yes they do!!!

DBWell right now I am simply trying to increase my big 3 lifts. I am doing the westside program, or something like it. Tons of rows and tricep work! Thanks for the encouragement!

JDI would love to hit 4 plates!!! I think it is attainable! The only thing is I am gaining a little bit of fat and I hate it!!! I just weighed and I tipped the scales at 216. Thats the most I have weighed in a very long time. But I need the food to grow and I cant stop now all of my lifts are going up. Why dont you think your bench will stay where it is at??

BurnerThank you very much.

Double D · 10-19-2006, 02:33 PM

DE Bench

Speed Bench
190x3 (10 Sets) (60% of my 1rm)
Never rested more than 30 seconds, super fast. These always seem easy, but if westside says they will work than who am I to argue?

Close Grip Bench
205x6
185x12
195x10
*Gotta find the correct weight here, thought 225 would be easy, but had a rude awakening. Did that in college, but now seems the old triceps need some extra attention!

DB Rows
100x10
100x10
100x10
100x10
*Went light today to really try on working with explosivness.

Shoulder Press (In front of head)
135x10 (really easy)
145x10 (great form all the way down to the collar bone each time)
150x8 (Again good form until last rep)

Bent Over Laterals
30x10
30x10
25x10
*Damn lower back is still sore so I decided to drop weight on last one.

Workout time-1 hour 5 minutes

Weighed at 3:00pm-216.4

Well I am feeling pretty fat. I dont want to cut because I love the strength gains I am getting, however I dont know how much longer I can take it. I hate feeling pudgy!

GO CARDS!!!!!!

KelJu · 10-19-2006, 03:53 PM

F'it dude, it will be winter time soon. You can always cut in the spring.

Spud · 10-19-2006, 04:50 PM

Very impressive! You should definitely cut in the spring and keep that bit of extra "warmth" on for the winter

When you do speed BP's, do you go fast only on the way up or both up and down?

Tom_B · 10-19-2006, 06:52 PM

hahaha you know your harcore when you've vomitted after a leg day!

Do you have any certain time frame that you would like to compete by?
About the fat gain - how is your diet looking now?

Ps another great lookign workout there

Brutus_G · 10-19-2006, 07:05 PM

So ya gonna keep the CG work and improve it?

JerseyDevil · 10-19-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Why dont you think your bench will stay where it is at??

You WILL hit those 8 plates man, you are a strong mofo, and have plenty of time to hit that goal. Realize most athletes are at their best when they are in the early 30's. Long time to go for you man.

At 50, testosterone levels drop, recovery ability drops, there is just no way you can maintain.

Double D · 10-20-2006, 01:35 PM

KelJu I know. Just kills me to get chubby. But I am going to take everyones advice and stick with it. My strength gains have been pretty steady.

Spud When it comes to speed bench you are suppose to come down as quickly as possible as well, just do it under control. Bodybuilders work on the negative, but whenver trying to increase power you are simply trying to go as quickly as possible, without bouncing.

Tom I dont know when I would plan on competing, it would definitly be after I hit 400 plus on my bench. I am very proud and wouldnt want to go and embarrass myself. My diet is ok as well. I have been trying to up my complex carbs and doing well with that. My good fats are high as well as my protein. I would say lately I have been taking in around 3,000 calories.

Brutus Whenever doing westside, CG bench is very important so I wont be leaving it behind anytime soon.

JD Yeah I know what you mean by the whole testosterone thing is going down at around age 50 (well not first hand). But I think if you stick with it and keep everything solid you will be ok for a while anyways. I have faith! I want those 8 plates!!!!!!!!

Well guys and gals ME leg day tonight. Or maybe even tommorow morning, depending on what the wife wants me to do. Either way it will happen one of the 2 days. Not real excited about it, but hey gotta do it.

Oh and by the way.......GO CARDS!!!!!!! That was a beautiful game last night!

Triple Threat · 10-20-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

At 50, testosterone levels drop, recovery ability drops, there is just no way you can maintain.

Spud · 10-20-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Spud When it comes to speed bench you are suppose to come down as quickly as possible as well, just do it under control. Bodybuilders work on the negative, but whenver trying to increase power you are simply trying to go as quickly as possible, without bouncing.

So do you actually pull the bar down, or allow gravity to do its thang and decelerate it at the last moment?

Brutus_G · 10-20-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Dont give up guys mind is key not T levels

JerseyDevil · 10-20-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus_G

Dont give up guys mind is key not T levels

You've never tried steroids have you?

Brutus_G · 10-21-2006, 05:02 AM

No have you?

JerseyDevil · 10-21-2006, 06:34 PM

Actually, yes. So I know what a difference testosterone levels can make

Brutus_G · 10-22-2006, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Actually, yes. So I know what a difference testosterone levels can make

shutdown

,but common man if you think you will you will.

Brutus_G · 10-22-2006, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Actually, yes. So I know what a difference testosterone levels can make

shutdown

,but common man if you think you will succeed you will succeed.

Double D · 10-22-2006, 07:27 AM

Spud Kinda let gravity do its thing. I wouldnt think with 60% of your 1rm you would be able to pull the bar down without bouncing it.

JD I got caught up in the whole steroids thing like 5 years ago. I did a simple cycle of test, deca, and dbol. However I wouldnt say it really did a whole lot in the ways of making me strong, however it did put 30lbs onto me. The thing is after I got off of it, I was at 235. I then went to shit. Seemed like all the hardness turned into fat. It was pretty crappy. So I decided I would never do them again unless I was desperate. But yes whenever you get older and your body stops producing test, then yes you got to look somewhere for it.

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Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Well I decided to go back to speed workouts instead of reps just because after all the reading I have did I want to get the most out of my strength! Weigh this morning at 213.2lbs. DE Squat Speed Squats 175x3-for 10 sets *Super fast and super effective! SLDL 275x8 for 3 sets (not hard should've went up to 300 or so) Pullups 3x8 for 3 sets Hyperextensions BW+25lbsx10 for 4 sets Decline Weighted Crunches BW+25lbsx20 for 3 sets. Workout time-50minutes All in all pretty exhausting, but I feel it in my back something serious!
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10-18-2006, 06:57 AM	#424
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10-18-2006, 04:51 PM	#427
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10-18-2006, 09:07 AM	#425
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	Great workout!!! .. LOL I can't stand High rep squats or SLDL's .. too barfy for me! Espically if they're back to back, Kudos to ya!

10-18-2006, 07:31 PM	#429
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10-19-2006, 02:22 PM	#430
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Stew I am going to have to give those sldl a try! I am always up for improving! I wish I never wouldve taken like a year and a half off, I couldnt imagine where I would be. As far as the Mets tonight, I am very well prepared for this game! I have all my cards things on and I am pumped up for this. Really wish we couldve clenched last night with Carp going, but Soup is having a good year as well, I like our odds! Tom I have puked many times on leg days. But that was on lifts that benefits me as a bodybuilder. As you can see now I am trying to increase all of my lifts and hoping to compete sometime in the next few years. The only thing is I am a very shy person and dont like alot of attention, however I have always drawn that to myself with my size over the past few years, which is the kind of attention I like, haha! BrutusAnd yes they do!!! DBWell right now I am simply trying to increase my big 3 lifts. I am doing the westside program, or something like it. Tons of rows and tricep work! Thanks for the encouragement! JDI would love to hit 4 plates!!! I think it is attainable! The only thing is I am gaining a little bit of fat and I hate it!!! I just weighed and I tipped the scales at 216. Thats the most I have weighed in a very long time. But I need the food to grow and I cant stop now all of my lifts are going up. Why dont you think your bench will stay where it is at?? BurnerThank you very much.
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10-19-2006, 02:33 PM	#431
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	DE Bench Speed Bench 190x3 (10 Sets) (60% of my 1rm) Never rested more than 30 seconds, super fast. These always seem easy, but if westside says they will work than who am I to argue? Close Grip Bench 205x6 185x12 195x10 Gotta find the correct weight here, thought 225 would be easy, but had a rude awakening. Did that in college, but now seems the old triceps need some extra attention! DB Rows 100x10 100x10 100x10 100x10 Went light today to really try on working with explosivness. Shoulder Press (In front of head) 135x10 (really easy) 145x10 (great form all the way down to the collar bone each time) 150x8 (Again good form until last rep) Bent Over Laterals 30x10 30x10 25x10 Damn lower back is still sore so I decided to drop weight on last one. Workout time*-1 hour 5 minutes Weighed at 3:00pm-216.4 Well I am feeling pretty fat. I dont want to cut because I love the strength gains I am getting, however I dont know how much longer I can take it. I hate feeling pudgy! GO CARDS!!!!!!
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10-19-2006, 04:50 PM	#433
Spud Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hart House! Posts: 753	Very impressive! You should definitely cut in the spring and keep that bit of extra "warmth" on for the winter When you do speed BP's, do you go fast only on the way up or both up and down?
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10-19-2006, 06:52 PM	#434
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	hahaha you know your harcore when you've vomitted after a leg day! Do you have any certain time frame that you would like to compete by? About the fat gain - how is your diet looking now? Ps another great lookign workout there

10-19-2006, 07:05 PM	#435
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,910 Photos: 24	So ya gonna keep the CG work and improve it?
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10-20-2006, 01:35 PM	#437
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	KelJu I know. Just kills me to get chubby. But I am going to take everyones advice and stick with it. My strength gains have been pretty steady. Spud When it comes to speed bench you are suppose to come down as quickly as possible as well, just do it under control. Bodybuilders work on the negative, but whenver trying to increase power you are simply trying to go as quickly as possible, without bouncing. Tom I dont know when I would plan on competing, it would definitly be after I hit 400 plus on my bench. I am very proud and wouldnt want to go and embarrass myself. My diet is ok as well. I have been trying to up my complex carbs and doing well with that. My good fats are high as well as my protein. I would say lately I have been taking in around 3,000 calories. Brutus Whenever doing westside, CG bench is very important so I wont be leaving it behind anytime soon. JD Yeah I know what you mean by the whole testosterone thing is going down at around age 50 (well not first hand). But I think if you stick with it and keep everything solid you will be ok for a while anyways. I have faith! I want those 8 plates!!!!!!!! Well guys and gals ME leg day tonight. Or maybe even tommorow morning, depending on what the wife wants me to do. Either way it will happen one of the 2 days. Not real excited about it, but hey gotta do it. Oh and by the way.......GO CARDS!!!!!!! That was a beautiful game last night!
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10-21-2006, 05:02 AM	#442
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,910 Photos: 24	No have you?
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10-21-2006, 06:34 PM	#443
JerseyDevil Done Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,176	Actually, yes. So I know what a difference testosterone levels can make

10-22-2006, 07:27 AM	#446
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Spud Kinda let gravity do its thing. I wouldnt think with 60% of your 1rm you would be able to pull the bar down without bouncing it. JD I got caught up in the whole steroids thing like 5 years ago. I did a simple cycle of test, deca, and dbol. However I wouldnt say it really did a whole lot in the ways of making me strong, however it did put 30lbs onto me. The thing is after I got off of it, I was at 235. I then went to shit. Seemed like all the hardness turned into fat. It was pretty crappy. So I decided I would never do them again unless I was desperate. But yes whenever you get older and your body stops producing test, then yes you got to look somewhere for it.
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