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Double D · 12-17-2006, 07:00 AM

Looks like you got everything lined out very well. I will be eating shit that I know is good for me, and that is a good enough plan for me, haha. It has worked for years and will continue to work. I just want to drop back down to 200lbs. I am very lean at that weight. However if I really wanted to try and push it deep into single digits I may try and get a little lighter, like around 190. Now that would be the lightest I would been in about 5 years!

Double D · 12-17-2006, 07:15 AM

Oh I about forgot my bar story:

After a long night of drinking we went to a po-dunk tavern called Johns. It was super redneck. As soon as I walk into the place this guy is eye balling me. I thought aw let it go, hes just drunk. But after about an hour of that your old pal DD had enough. I simply looked at him and asked him if he wanted to do something or if he was going to sit there lookin like a bitch. He spouted something back on the lines of I'd break your jaw....blah blah blah. I gave him the big offer to step out the door with me and he kindly accepted. We walked out and no longer than I got out the door he tried to fuckin kick me, hahaha......I chuckled a bit and said are you fuckin kidding me what are you? Karate kid? I took at him got him by his shirt and he tried to turn away so I laid a good ole right in the temple, and it was all over. He had fell down and smacked his head off of the pavement. Laid there for a good 5 minutes while I went back inside. No longer than I had bought another beer the cops pulled up. I thought fuck, so I ran out the back door and took off to the next bar. I got there and there was like 5 people there and for some reason they were all asking me about the fight. I was like how in the hell did you hear of this so early? They said the cops were calling bars and asking the owners or batenders to call if they saw me. I figured I had better just go to the cop shop. I had the bartender drive me, since I was in no condition to drive. I got there and they asked while I took off yadda yadda yadda. I was like I left as soon as it happened (big lie), because I didnt want anymore problems. To make a long story short they let me go because the guy didnt want to press charge, but I had to go straight home. In their eyes I guess I was the wrong doer, whenever all I did was want to go shoot some pool and drink a few.

Kinda long story, but it was very eventful. Oh btw the old shoulder is bothering me now. FUCKER!

Brutus_G · 12-17-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Oh I about forgot my bar story:

After a long night of drinking we went to a po-dunk tavern called Johns. It was super redneck. As soon as I walk into the place this guy is eye balling me. I thought aw let it go, hes just drunk. But after about an hour of that your old pal DD had enough. I simply looked at him and asked him if he wanted to do something or if he was going to sit there lookin like a bitch. He spouted something back on the lines of I'd break your jaw....blah blah blah. I gave him the big offer to step out the door with me and he kindly accepted. We walked out and no longer than I got out the door he tried to fuckin kick me, hahaha......I chuckled a bit and said are you fuckin kidding me what are you? Karate kid? I took at him got him by his shirt and he tried to turn away so I laid a good ole right in the temple, and it was all over. He had fell down and smacked his head off of the pavement. Laid there for a good 5 minutes while I went back inside. No longer than I had bought another beer the cops pulled up. I thought fuck, so I ran out the back door and took off to the next bar. I got there and there was like 5 people there and for some reason they were all asking me about the fight. I was like how in the hell did you hear of this so early? They said the cops were calling bars and asking the owners or batenders to call if they saw me. I figured I had better just go to the cop shop. I had the bartender drive me, since I was in no condition to drive. I got there and they asked while I took off yadda yadda yadda. I was like I left as soon as it happened (big lie), because I didnt want anymore problems. To make a long story short they let me go because the guy didnt want to press charge, but I had to go straight home. In their eyes I guess I was the wrong doer, whenever all I did was want to go shoot some pool and drink a few.

Kinda long story, but it was very eventful. Oh btw the old shoulder is bothering me now. FUCKER!

Fucking Beast D! There are guys who got something to prove and they see you huge and muscular and wanna fight.

That sucks to hear about your shoulder. Do you think it was the punch?

Double D · 12-17-2006, 10:42 AM

No I dont think it had anything to do with it. I got into a buddies truck and ran into the back of it pretty hard it may had something to do with it. In the process of getting into his truck there was a screw that was on his back sliding window and I drug my back against it and there is a huge scratch (more like a gash) out of my upper back about 16 inches long. Now that is sore also. I am always doing something dumb whenever I go out.

Brutus_G · 12-17-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

No I dont think it had anything to do with it. I got into a buddies truck and ran into the back of it pretty hard it may had something to do with it. In the process of getting into his truck there was a screw that was on his back sliding window and I drug my back against it and there is a huge scratch (more like a gash) out of my upper back about 16 inches long. Now that is sore also. I am always doing something dumb whenever I go out.

Steer clear of all ash trays and crazy red neck drunks and you should be ok.

Brutus_G · 12-17-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brutus_G

I cut about 320 calories and will be doing a slow cut no more than 3 months. My plan is to lose about a pound per week. This first week i will see what happens then i will lower the calories so I'm losing exactly a pound per day.
294g of protein
210g of fat
80g of carbs like 24grams of this is from flax seed fiber. I count fiber carbs even if they dont count as calories its easier for me.
total calories-3386
2 servings of fruit
Every 5th day i will eat 1 carb meal with veggies and protein eaten first it can contain any kind of carb source and i will eat till satisfied but no more.
8grams of epa/Dha per day.
grapefruit will be eaten every day.
Flaxseed will be used first meal of the day for its anti estrogen effects and fiber so I'll shit easy.
oh BTW i will be eating 6 whole eggs and butter and my cholesterol will improve.

Kinda like the anabolic diet just healthier because of the added fiber, antioxidants, and phytonutrients.

EDIT i meant pound per week lol.

Double D · 12-17-2006, 11:02 AM

On another note, my meals today were 3 eggs for breakfast, ff cheese 1/4 cup, whole wheat bread (I know I know its not the best), and 1 bannana.

Then for meal 2 it was pretty much the same with some added turkey breast.

Brutus_G · 12-17-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

On another note, my meals today were 3 eggs for breakfast, ff cheese 1/4 cup, whole wheat bread (I know I know its not the best), and 1 bannana.

Then for meal 2 it was pretty much the same with some added turkey breast.

looks good to me besides like you said the bread. Butter on veggies can help. Oil and viniger on salads. omelets can help keep you sane. 1 cup of frozen blue berries 1 cup of water 1-half packet of splenda can make you a slushy. Buy vanilla protein powder and use unsweetened coco powder to make chocolate milk.

Double D · 12-17-2006, 11:15 AM

Yeah the bread isnt the best, but it really does nothing to me as far as bf goes. Seems like my system destroys it very easily and I keep on burning fat. Besdies it is loaded with fiber.

Double D · 12-17-2006, 11:30 AM

So heres the workout that I am going to do tonight. It will be a lower body rep day.

Squats-4x8-10
SLDL-3x10
Lunges-3x10-20
Hypers-4x10-15
Ab work

Easy enough. I want to back off of the upper work for a few days because of the shoulder.

fufu · 12-17-2006, 11:30 AM

Just thought I'd drop in to seal post #1000.

Good luck with the workout.

and good job with the KO.

Double D · 12-17-2006, 11:31 AM

Glory hog!

Double D · 12-17-2006, 12:58 PM

This was so far today, off of fitday.com:

grams cals %total
Total: 1528
Fat: 47 423 29%
Sat: 13 119 8%
Poly: 9 79 5%
Mono: 18 158 11%
Carbs: 164 586 40%
Fiber: 18 0 0%
Protein: 115 460 31%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

Thoughts?

fufu · 12-17-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

This was so far today, off of fitday.com:

grams cals %total
Total: 1528
Fat: 47 423 29%
Sat: 13 119 8%
Poly: 9 79 5%
Mono: 18 158 11%
Carbs: 164 586 40%
Fiber: 18 0 0%
Protein: 115 460 31%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

Thoughts?

What are you going to shoot for your total daily cals?

Double D · 12-17-2006, 01:02 PM

To be honest I am not real sure. I just know the healthy things I am suppose to eat and I do. I have always done it this way and it has worked, but what would you think? I am at about 213 now.

fufu · 12-17-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

To be honest I am not real sure. I just know the healthy things I am suppose to eat and I do. I have always done it this way and it has worked, but what would you think? I am at about 213 now.

I don't really know, people can vary alot. For myself, I'll be cutting at about 3250 cals a day, but I am naturally ectomorphic, I generally need more cals to maintain LBM. You've said you've cut with as low as like 1800 cals(your first journal post). I'm assuming your dominant body type is mesomorph, so lower cals could work for you. Idk though, mapping out and testing different cals is the best way to find out what works for you. That takes alot of logging and effort though. But if you want to anything well, it takes effort.

Double D · 12-17-2006, 01:24 PM

I am a meso/endo probably 80/20%

Burner02 · 12-17-2006, 05:16 PM

dam D...you just attract attention, don't you? I never have problems...
My bud tho...has the same kinds of problems you do. He's 6'2", about 210, lean...big boy.
Guess he singled out by guys with 'little man syndrome?'
I hear funny stories about what happens to him. Oh..and he's been training in and out of the ring for the past 17 years....

Tom_B · 12-18-2006, 08:09 AM

amazing bar story! hahaha ! Going out, having a few drinks with the friends and all fun and all but it's when shit like that happens that makes the night worth wild!

Also please tell me you ate more than the 1500 calories right?? ... how did it look at the end of the day?..

BulkMeUp · 12-18-2006, 09:34 AM

Hope that screw that scratched your back wasnt rusty.

1500cals is very low for you.

Brutus_G · 12-18-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

This was so far today, off of fitday.com:

grams cals %total
Total: 1528
Fat: 47 423 29%
Sat: 13 119 8%
Poly: 9 79 5%
Mono: 18 158 11%
Carbs: 164 586 40%
Fiber: 18 0 0%
Protein: 115 460 31%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

Thoughts?

More fiber(30-50g),protein(at least 1 gram per pound of bodyweight), and 3-20 g of EPA/dha will help with fat loss. Have a carb meal every 3-7 days.

Double D · 12-18-2006, 02:29 PM

Sorry guys that was only about 4 meals. I had 2 or 3 more. I gotta run though, I am getting outa here. Catch up with ya all later.

Double D · 12-18-2006, 05:29 PM

RE Squat day

Squat ATG (I truely mean it!!)
315x10
325x10
325x10
325x9
325x10
335x8
*RI around 120 secs or less. These things are every bit of atg! Very tough.

*Also felt like I was going to puke at this point!

Speed Deadlift
225x3 (5 sets)
RI-less than 30 seconds

SLDL
225x10
225x10
225x10
275x8
*Couldve gotten 10 on the last set if I wanted to puke all over myself. But 225 was fairly easy, but at that point my legs were jello.

*Flirted with the idea of lunges here and thought better of it.

Hypers
bw+35x10 (3 sets)

workout time-40 minutes or a little less.

Amazing workout, which is very shocking for the cut I am on. But tonight is the ever so often pizza night. I am seeing my weight cut a little to fast and decided tonight would be a great night for a good amount of fat and carbs. I am excited, I am pretty hungry. Diet today so far has been:

6:30am
3 eggs
oats (1/2 cup)
1 piece of whole wheat bread

9:30 am
6 ounces tuna
oats-1 cup
fish oil
*No veggies (forgot to take them to work)

12:00 pm
3 eggs
1/2 cup of oats
2 pieces of whole wheat toast

3 pm
3 eggs
1/2 cup of oats

post workout
2 scoops of whey
bannana-medium
brown rice

in about 30 minutes I am having some pizza!!!

Weight today was about 210....I know it seems like the weight is coming off, but seems my body does this well and the strength is still there if not going up so I am not to concerned at this point. I got upper RE Weds, hope the shoulder feels 100% by then.

Burner Sure does seem like I do attract alot of attention, but I am not sure why. I had a Holister button up shirt on and it was long sleeve. I did take it off and I had a cut off under it, but like I said no one could see it until I took it off. I wonder if when I took it off he knew he was screwed? Haha, who knows.

Tom Fights do make the night, that is if I am on the winning side. And no that wasnt the only cals I had that day. My diet today may have not been great, but it does work for me. Do you think its to many eggs?

BMU I doubt the screw was rusty because the truck was pretty new, but lets hope. And no I ended up with a little over 2800 calories that day. I think my maintenece is probably a little over 3,000. But who knows.

Brutus I am sure I got a ton of fiber that day and I seem to get alot each day. I need to get more veggies in my diet, but it is tough because I am constantly working.

fufu · 12-18-2006, 06:10 PM

Nice squats! damn!

RDL's and SLDL's are hard as fuck after some high rep squats. Especially ATG, your glutes must be fried.

Double D · 12-18-2006, 06:34 PM

Oh ya definitly. Everything is killing me. I just ate some pizza, yes off the diet however I felt like I deserved it from that workout. I needed some extra calories in my day anyways. Seems like not long ago at all I could only do 250 ATG squats. Probably about a little over a year ago.

Tom_B · 12-18-2006, 06:46 PM

hahah well I've never been in a 'fight'. I've been in a few brawls, and tossed around a crowd, water thrown at me, guys jumping in my face .. but I've never been punched or actually punched anyone hahaha.
And it's a good thing too, see I have 4 porcelain veneers, so if I were to be punched in the mouth .. well .. there goes 10,000 dollars

. But something tells me at some point in my life I'll get in a fight, so when the time comes I guess I'll ave to use my left hand to cover my mouth and fight with only one hand lol, that'll go over well

Good 2800 sounds about a good level to start at for you. You might even be able to go higher .. but if this is what works for you and your body, then all the power to you, it's you who knows your body best.
As for the eggs .. are you using the yolk with all 9?! Or is it just the whites?? Does high choles

12-17-2006, 07:00 AM	#991
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Looks like you got everything lined out very well. I will be eating shit that I know is good for me, and that is a good enough plan for me, haha. It has worked for years and will continue to work. I just want to drop back down to 200lbs. I am very lean at that weight. However if I really wanted to try and push it deep into single digits I may try and get a little lighter, like around 190. Now that would be the lightest I would been in about 5 years!
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12-17-2006, 07:15 AM	#992
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Oh I about forgot my bar story: After a long night of drinking we went to a po-dunk tavern called Johns. It was super redneck. As soon as I walk into the place this guy is eye balling me. I thought aw let it go, hes just drunk. But after about an hour of that your old pal DD had enough. I simply looked at him and asked him if he wanted to do something or if he was going to sit there lookin like a bitch. He spouted something back on the lines of I'd break your jaw....blah blah blah. I gave him the big offer to step out the door with me and he kindly accepted. We walked out and no longer than I got out the door he tried to fuckin kick me, hahaha......I chuckled a bit and said are you fuckin kidding me what are you? Karate kid? I took at him got him by his shirt and he tried to turn away so I laid a good ole right in the temple, and it was all over. He had fell down and smacked his head off of the pavement. Laid there for a good 5 minutes while I went back inside. No longer than I had bought another beer the cops pulled up. I thought fuck, so I ran out the back door and took off to the next bar. I got there and there was like 5 people there and for some reason they were all asking me about the fight. I was like how in the hell did you hear of this so early? They said the cops were calling bars and asking the owners or batenders to call if they saw me. I figured I had better just go to the cop shop. I had the bartender drive me, since I was in no condition to drive. I got there and they asked while I took off yadda yadda yadda. I was like I left as soon as it happened (big lie), because I didnt want anymore problems. To make a long story short they let me go because the guy didnt want to press charge, but I had to go straight home. In their eyes I guess I was the wrong doer, whenever all I did was want to go shoot some pool and drink a few. Kinda long story, but it was very eventful. Oh btw the old shoulder is bothering me now. FUCKER!
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12-17-2006, 10:42 AM	#994
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	No I dont think it had anything to do with it. I got into a buddies truck and ran into the back of it pretty hard it may had something to do with it. In the process of getting into his truck there was a screw that was on his back sliding window and I drug my back against it and there is a huge scratch (more like a gash) out of my upper back about 16 inches long. Now that is sore also. I am always doing something dumb whenever I go out.
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12-17-2006, 11:02 AM	#997
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	On another note, my meals today were 3 eggs for breakfast, ff cheese 1/4 cup, whole wheat bread (I know I know its not the best), and 1 bannana. Then for meal 2 it was pretty much the same with some added turkey breast.
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12-17-2006, 11:15 AM	#999
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Yeah the bread isnt the best, but it really does nothing to me as far as bf goes. Seems like my system destroys it very easily and I keep on burning fat. Besdies it is loaded with fiber.
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12-17-2006, 11:30 AM	#1000
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	So heres the workout that I am going to do tonight. It will be a lower body rep day. Squats-4x8-10 SLDL-3x10 Lunges-3x10-20 Hypers-4x10-15 Ab work Easy enough. I want to back off of the upper work for a few days because of the shoulder.
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12-17-2006, 11:30 AM	#1001
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,733 Photos: 4	Just thought I'd drop in to seal post #1000. Good luck with the workout. and good job with the KO.
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12-17-2006, 11:31 AM	#1002
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Glory hog!
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12-17-2006, 12:58 PM	#1003
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	This was so far today, off of fitday.com: grams cals %total Total: 1528 Fat: 47 423 29% Sat: 13 119 8% Poly: 9 79 5% Mono: 18 158 11% Carbs: 164 586 40% Fiber: 18 0 0% Protein: 115 460 31% Alcohol: 0 0 0% Thoughts?
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12-17-2006, 01:02 PM	#1005
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	To be honest I am not real sure. I just know the healthy things I am suppose to eat and I do. I have always done it this way and it has worked, but what would you think? I am at about 213 now.
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12-17-2006, 01:24 PM	#1007
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	I am a meso/endo probably 80/20%
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12-17-2006, 05:16 PM	#1008
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,291	dam D...you just attract attention, don't you? I never have problems... My bud tho...has the same kinds of problems you do. He's 6'2", about 210, lean...big boy. Guess he singled out by guys with 'little man syndrome?' I hear funny stories about what happens to him. Oh..and he's been training in and out of the ring for the past 17 years....
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12-18-2006, 08:09 AM	#1009
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	amazing bar story! hahaha ! Going out, having a few drinks with the friends and all fun and all but it's when shit like that happens that makes the night worth wild! Also please tell me you ate more than the 1500 calories right?? ... how did it look at the end of the day?..

12-18-2006, 09:34 AM	#1010
BulkMeUp ..is bulking up! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cana-dah Posts: 4,933	Hope that screw that scratched your back wasnt rusty. 1500cals is very low for you.

12-18-2006, 02:29 PM	#1012
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Sorry guys that was only about 4 meals. I had 2 or 3 more. I gotta run though, I am getting outa here. Catch up with ya all later.
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12-18-2006, 05:29 PM	#1013
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	RE Squat day Squat ATG (I truely mean it!!) 315x10 325x10 325x10 325x9 325x10 335x8 RI around 120 secs or less. These things are every bit of atg! Very tough. Also felt like I was going to puke at this point! Speed Deadlift 225x3 (5 sets) RI-less than 30 seconds SLDL 225x10 225x10 225x10 275x8 Couldve gotten 10 on the last set if I wanted to puke all over myself. But 225 was fairly easy, but at that point my legs were jello. Flirted with the idea of lunges here and thought better of it. Hypers bw+35x10 (3 sets) workout time-40 minutes or a little less. Amazing workout, which is very shocking for the cut I am on. But tonight is the ever so often pizza night. I am seeing my weight cut a little to fast and decided tonight would be a great night for a good amount of fat and carbs. I am excited, I am pretty hungry. Diet today so far has been: 6:30am 3 eggs oats (1/2 cup) 1 piece of whole wheat bread 9:30 am 6 ounces tuna oats-1 cup fish oil No veggies (forgot to take them to work) 12:00 pm 3 eggs 1/2 cup of oats 2 pieces of whole wheat toast 3 pm 3 eggs 1/2 cup of oats post workout 2 scoops of whey bannana-medium brown rice in about 30 minutes I am having some pizza!!! Weight today was about 210....I know it seems like the weight is coming off, but seems my body does this well and the strength is still there if not going up so I am not to concerned at this point. I got upper RE Weds, hope the shoulder feels 100% by then. Burner* Sure does seem like I do attract alot of attention, but I am not sure why. I had a Holister button up shirt on and it was long sleeve. I did take it off and I had a cut off under it, but like I said no one could see it until I took it off. I wonder if when I took it off he knew he was screwed? Haha, who knows. Tom Fights do make the night, that is if I am on the winning side. And no that wasnt the only cals I had that day. My diet today may have not been great, but it does work for me. Do you think its to many eggs? BMU I doubt the screw was rusty because the truck was pretty new, but lets hope. And no I ended up with a little over 2800 calories that day. I think my maintenece is probably a little over 3,000. But who knows. Brutus I am sure I got a ton of fiber that day and I seem to get alot each day. I need to get more veggies in my diet, but it is tough because I am constantly working.
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12-18-2006, 06:10 PM	#1014
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,733 Photos: 4	Nice squats! damn! RDL's and SLDL's are hard as fuck after some high rep squats. Especially ATG, your glutes must be fried.
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12-18-2006, 06:34 PM	#1015
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,901	Oh ya definitly. Everything is killing me. I just ate some pizza, yes off the diet however I felt like I deserved it from that workout. I needed some extra calories in my day anyways. Seems like not long ago at all I could only do 250 ATG squats. Probably about a little over a year ago.
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