dvlmn666

Shoulders:
4 sets Hammer Strength Iso Behind the Neck Press
4 sets Cable Upright Rows
4 sets Cybex Lateral Machine
4 sets Revers Pec Dec

Tri's:
4 sets Dips
4 sets Overhead Extension Machine
4 sets Rope Pulldowns

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

No real reason to ask this but I'm gonna anyway. You seem to use a lot of machines, ever tried using just barbells and dumb bells?

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

Yeah I do, I try to switch it around as much as possible. But since my partner hurt his shoulder last november we've been sticking to machines more as he gets back to full strength.

I like the Hammer Strength ones the most though, they feel pretty close to the freeweights. Weird part is for chest and stuff I always use machines when my partner isn't there but if he's gone for shoulders I use almost all freeweights. **shrug**

Guess I try to use both, I think both have there advantages and disadvantages.

Hope that made sense. lol

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

Perfect sense. Damn good idea too. I like Hammer Strength for pulling exercises but that's about it. Legs are strictly squats and presses for me. And for some strange reason, all the Hammer Strength chest machines hurt my elbows. Must be at just the right angle to cause me pain. Oh well, dumb bells have worked so far.

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

I've noticed if I don't adjust the seat right on the chest ones I have problems with that to. But yeah there back machines are awesome.

I have to try doing squats again one of these days. I don't know what the problem is but no matter how light I go and with having my partner make sure my form is exact my knees kill me. Next day sometimes I can't walk without it hurting. So I just go heavy on the leg presses and hack squats.

Can't figure out why I can do hack squates but can't do regular ones. But I'm gonna have to try it again my knees have been doing better with all the cardio, maybe they can handle some squats again

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

Well, you know what I'm going through with knees right now so be CAREFUL!!! Go slow and press with your heels. Wish I'd known that stuff ten years ago. Oh well, like my dad says, "Too soon old, too late smart."

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

yep that's why I'm gonna try it again. But I know my knees to well already and I'll know on the first set if it's a no go.

Sorry to hear about your knees by the way dude.

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Well no gym this morning, going to try for cardio and back tonight. But if all else fails at least cardio.

Worked til midnight last night, and for the first time in a week actually fell asleep right away. But didn't hear the alarm go off this morning

Oh well I needed the sleep, just gonna have to hit it hard this weekend and next week.

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Friday:
1 hr Stairmaster

Saturday:
1 hr Precor Eliptical

Today:

Chest:
4 sets Flat Bench in smith Rack. all drop sets
3 sets Machine Fly's
3 sets Incline Dumbell Presses
3 sets Hammer Strength Decline Presses

Bicepts:
3 sets Curl Machine - Did them single arm though
3 sets Incline Dumbell Curls superset with Hammer Curls

Abs:
4 sets Leg Raises with raise at top 20,20,20,20

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

Mind if I make a suggestion? I'm gonna do it anyway. The DB's take a lot more energy to control and should probably be done first in your routine, when you're at your strongest. Then the flyes and then the Smith Machine benchpresses. I love doing drop sets on the Smith but usually save it for almost last to really fry those last few stubborn fibers.

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

I'm always open to suggestions.

And I agree about the dumbells being harder. We usually switch it around, like next week we'll probably start with dumbells. I can totally tell which we start with, and how the amount of weight changes on the order we do the lifts in.

Alot of the reason we change it around so much is because Jeff has been lifting for like 10 yrs and gets bored all the time if we do the same routine twice in a row.

Do you think this might actually be keeping me from making some gains as fast as I could if I only switched the routine ever month?

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

Yes, I ABSOLUTELY think so. It takes you at LEAST a month for your body to adapt to a new routine. In this case, when I say adapt, I mean for the first month you're opening up new neuro-transmitters to your muscles. You'll probably make good strength gains but they're because your muscles are becoming more "efficient" not larger/stronger. I'm a firm believer that as long as you're making strength gains you should stick to what's working. Some people like to switch at a pre-set time to avoid ever reaching a plateau. Others will sacrifice a week or two on a plateau so they can wring out every good muscle building set they can from a good routine. I lean more toward the second group. An old aircraft maintenance saying is, "If it works, don't fix it." I apply the same logic to workout routines. As long as I'm making gains I don't mess with my routine. BUT, as soon as I hit a plateau I change my routine. That's why it's so important to keep a workout log, so you'll know when you hit that plateau and it's time to change things up.

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

That's kinda the weird part, I am still making gains and improving. But I think I'm going to try to get him to lock into some routines because I didn't change things much and kept more of a steady routine when he was out with his shoulder problem. And it seems like I made much better gains that way.

Good idea there albob, thanks for the help dude. The changing every week is the whole reason I don't log my weights because the weights I use change depending on were in the morning we do the exercise.

Thanks for the advice dude.

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

Of course this means that even if you beat me at this little challenge you SHOULD give me first choice of the lovely prizes.

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

nope, when I win you can have second choice. **efg**

But yes the prizes are quite lovely, and worth me workin my fat a$$ off.

I'm gonna have some pix soon to.

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Quads:
5 sets Standing Leg Curl Machine
4 sets Seated Leg Curl Machine

Calves:
5 sets Seated Calf Raises
4 sets Standing angled Calf Raises

Abs:
2 sets of 25/side Torso Rotary Machine

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

PSSSST...........dvlmn.............over hear........................Hey, leg curls don't work your quads.

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

thanks for pointing that out albob.

did I mention that I only slept 2 hrs last night as well. lmao

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

ALBOB

Be careful or we're gonna start calling you Pitboss.

Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

dvlmn666

pix are in my other journal.

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Back:

4 sets Cybex Pulldown Machine
3 sets Reverse Grip Pulldowns
3 sets Seated Machine Rows
3 sets Reverse Incline dumbell rows (basically sit on an incline bench and row, feels very similar to 1 arm dumbell rows)
3 sets HyperExtensions

Abs:
4 sets Leg Raises With Lift at top 20,20,20,20
1 sets 25/side Torso Rotation Machine
4 sets AbFlak machine
4 sets Weighted Crunch machine 25,25,25,25

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Last night 60 minutes Stairmaster

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Jeff didn't show so since I've been having probs with my shoulder decided to skip shoulders this week and just do cardio.

another 60 minutes Stairmaster

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

60 minutes Stairmaster

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Message In Blood

There's a place that I keep deep inside me
It can trigger my mind
All along I knew it has been with me
Since I was just a child

I just summon power within my soul
It has given me life, beyond life I take
Blame for my murderous problem my signature
Always reminds

It's a message in blood
It's your cryptic warning
Within the message in blood
Marks the years of pain,
And your godforsaken ending to life

I'm provoked into sick confrontations, brutal
Time after time, bed of nails, suffocation,
life's ending, slay in different designs
One mans misery is another mans mystery
No one cares to understand my
Demented means
Sticks and stones can break all your
brittle bones, epitaph written at your feet

It's a message in blood
It's your cryptic warning
Within the message in blood
Marks the years of pain,
And your godforsaken ending to life

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

dvlmn666

Shoulders: (seem to be healing, first few sets hurt like hell though but it got better)

3 sets Machine (don't know what it's called but mimics a side laterals)
3 supersets Upright Rows and Dumbell shrugs
3 supersets Hammer Strength Front Military Press Machine and Front dumbell raises

Tri's:
3 sets Hammer Stength Dip Machine
3 sets Overhead extension Machine
3 sets V bar pressdowns

"When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

Mudge

If your into older thrash, I really used to love Exodus for my workouts, high energy bust your ballz music, Pantera rocks too