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    Cool Baby Got Back!

    I stuck with SF's program for a while, made some good gains on it. But for some reason no matter how many times I stray from Baby Got Back, I always for whatever reason come right back to it. This program is sound, and has given some of my best gains overall. I'm going to copy and paste the program here so those of you who haven't read it, can do so.

    Building the Ultimate Back

    The back can be thought of as being divided into vertical and horizontal planes. So, back training should really be split into two workouts - one devoted to horizontal pulling (thickness based workout / rowing movements) and one devoted to vertical pulling (width based workout / pull ups). As for heavy Deadlifts, they will round out your back workout.

    I have divided some exercises into the two planes of motion you will be working in.

    Horizontal Pulling

    • Barbell Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
    • T-Bar Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
    • Rack Pulls (vary the pin height, usually set them set below the knee/mid shin area)
    • Seated Cable Rows

    Vertical Pulling

    • Lat Pulldowns (various grips and widths)
    • Pull Ups
    • Chin Ups
    • Pull-Overs (Nautilus, cable, bar)

    Picking a Grip

    Choose one and stick with it throughout the course of the program - then switch when you want to change exercises. This will help with maintaining consistency and you'll be able to tell whether you're progressing or not.

    For example, if you perform the Bent Barbell Row - you'll find that you can probably lift more weight with a supinated grip because the biceps are assisting the movement.

    So if you're switching back and forth between grips during each workout, or every other workout, then it may be difficult to gauge progress.

    So choose one and stick with it.
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    There are three main grips that can be utilized when lifting:

    1. Supinated grip means palms facing your body.
    2. Pronated means palms facing away from your body.
    3. Semi-supinated (neutral grip) means palms facing each other.

    Examples of each grip used in an exercise would be: pull-up uses a pronated grip, palms facing away from your body while chin-ups use the other two grips.

    Dealing with Deadlifts

    Straight Legged Deadlifts/Regular Deadlifts

    Straight Legged Deadlifts/Regular Deadlifts are decent for the hip extension function, and therefore the lower back, but not so much for great upper back development, at least comparatively speaking.

    Regular Deadlifts

    Regular deadlifts are a 'hip dominant' exercise. They hit the whole posterior chain - from hamstrings up to traps. They are the King of back development. Deadlifts should be performed first in your back workout, as they require appropriate motor control of multiple muscles. In other words, if you choose to do them down the line in your list of exercises, the chances of injury will increase.

    You can be pretty sure you're doing it right if you're getting war-wounds on your shins. It's basically a sign that the bar is staying really close to your body.

    Try to keep your sets short for two reasons:

    1. It is a complex movement and form tends to break down with higher reps.

    2. It is a strength movement. Your goal is to get strong on this exercise.

    Keep the reps under 5 with regular deadlifts. You can go higher with SLDLs/RDLs as the weight you will be using is not as heavy and as taxing as a regular deadlift is on the body.

    Rack Pulls

    A rack pull is performed like a regular deadlift, except off pins. Click here for a graphical example of rack pulls

    Pulling from the floor presents a greater challenge. The weight travels a greater distance, and the glutes and hams are targeted to a greater degree. If you choose to pull from pins, focus on your back. This is essentially what’s working on the upper portion of a deadlift. Also, because the range of motion is shorter you should be able to lift a bit heavier.

    You can vary the pin height, but try not to do it set-to-set or workout-to-workout. This has to do with being able to accurately gauge progress. Changing things too frequently will make tracking progress from a strength standpoint more difficult. Stick with something for four weeks, and then switch it up a bit.

    Building This into a Workout

    Try pairing a horizontal pulling workout with horizontal pushing (chest) and the vertical pulling with vertical pushing (shoulders) to ensure that the volume around the joints is kept constant. This is assuming that muscle groups are being trained once per week.

    An upper/lower split or an undulating split (with increased frequency, where everything basically gets hit twice per week) is better for hypertrophy. The one thing you have to consider when doing this is that the volume per body part per workout is lowered, but the weekly volume stills allows for an adequate growth stimulus to occur.



    The 4 day split workout

    DAY 1 - HORIZONTAL PUSH PULL

    Horizontal plane back (pull)

    Select from:

    • Bent barbell rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)

    • T-Bar Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)

    • Rack Pulls (vary the pin height, usually set them set below the knee/mid shin area)

    • Seated Cable Rows

    • Dumbbell row

    • Hammer Strength row

    Horizontal plane chest (push)

    Select from:

    • Flat barbell press

    • Dumbbell press

    • Low incline press.

    • Flat or incline flies

    (Standing calves, short, heavy sets)

    DAY 2 - QUAD DOMINANT LEGS

    Go short and heavy on two quad dominant exercises and lighter with higher reps for one ham dominant exercise. (Here, hams are accessory, so they go lighter, with higher reps)

    (Biceps)

    DAY 3 - VERTICAL PUSH/PULL

    Vertical plane back (pull)

    Select from:

    • Lat Pulldowns (various grips and widths)

    • Pull Ups

    • Chin Ups

    • Pull-Overs (Nautilus, cable, bar)

    • Any of the Hammer high rows

    Vertical plane shoulders (push)

    Select from:

    • Standing barbell press

    • Dumbbell press

    • Arnold press

    • Laterals, etc

    (Seated calves, long sets)

    DAY 4 – HIP/HAMSTRING DOMINANT LEGS

    This is the opposite of day 2. Go short and heavy on 2 hip/ham dominant exercises and light with higher reps for one quad dominant exercise. Here, quads are accessory, so they go lighter, with higher reps.

    (Tricep work)



    BGB Programme Notes

    It’s a four-day workout.

    Day one is an upper body day: horizontal push-pull. This means back and chest are paired together so they don't tire each other out.

    Back will hit back hard, biceps light. Chest will hit chest hard, triceps light. Chest work also hits front delts a bit.

    Since there's no legwork on this day, toss in some calf work. You can throw in an ab exercise as well.

    If you do seated calves on this one, do standing calves on the next upper-body day.

    Day two is lower body: quad-dominant, hamstring accessory.

    This means you're hitting quads heavy and hard, hams lightly. Add in an arm exercise to round this out. Either biceps or triceps - if you do triceps on this day then do biceps on the other leg day. Pick two different arm exercises - one heavy and hard, one a little lighter, slightly longer reps.

    Day three is upper again: vertical push-pull. This means more back (but mostly lats), and shoulders. Biceps get another small hit here with lat work, triceps a small hit with some of the shoulder work and possibly some of the lat work.

    Since there's no legwork on this day, toss in a calf exercise, and add in an ab exercise as well, just like horizontal push-pull day. Pick a different calf exercise, and a different ab exercise than you did on horizontal push-pull.

    Day four is lower: hamstring dominant, quad accessory.

    This workout hits the hamstrings hard and heavy while going a little lighter and longer with the quad work. You're still working all muscles hard, but with different rep ranges.

    Because the arms aren't overly fatigued on hamstring-dominant day, add in two arm exercises - if you did biceps on quad-dominant day, do triceps on hamstring-dominant day.



    SAMPLE WORKOUT

    Day 1: Horizontal push pull, calves, and abs

    Thickness back: direct
    Chest: direct
    Biceps: indirect
    Triceps: indirect
    Front Delts: indirect
    Calves, abs: direct


    Thickness-Back:

    Rack pulls 5x5 (direct, hard, strength range)

    Bent-over rows 3x8 (hypertrophy range)
    (If you do a third, Hammer Rows 3x10-12)

    Chest:

    Flat bench 5x5

    Incline dumbbell press 3x8
    (if you do a third, Incline cable flyes 3x10-12)

    Calves: (soleus) 3x12-20 seated calf raises. Pause at the bottom

    Abs: 3 sets of 8-12, weighted

    Day 2: Quad dominant, hamstring accessory. Biceps.
    Quads: direct, heavy, low reps
    Hamstrings: direct, lighter, high reps
    Arms: direct
    Calves: indirect
    Abs: indirect

    Quads:

    Full squats 5x5

    Leg press 3x8

    Hamstrings:

    Leg curls or high foot placement leg press 3-4 sets of 12-20

    Biceps:

    Seated alternating bicep curls 5x5

    Hammer curls 3x8-12

    Day 3: Vertical push-pull, calves, abs

    Width-Back: direct
    Shoulders: direct
    Calves: direct
    Abs: direct
    Biceps: indirect with pull-ups, chin-ups, pulldowns
    Triceps: indirect with shoulders and some lat work
    Chest: indirect with some lat work, possibly, such as dumbbell pullovers

    Width-Back:

    Chins 5x5

    Hammer high rows 3x8
    (if you do a third, Hammer Behind the Neck rows or lying pullovers 3x12)

    Shoulders: (I like to warm up with bent over side laterals, which work the often-neglected rear delts anyway – 3x10)

    Arnold Press or Military Press 5x5

    Standing side laterals 3x8

    Calves: (gastrocs) standing or donkey calf raises, 3x8-10

    Abs: 3 sets of 8-12, weighted

    Day 4: Hamstring dominant, quad accessory. Triceps.

    Hamstrings/Glutes: direct, heavy, low reps
    Quads: direct, lighter, high reps
    Triceps: direct
    Calves: indirect
    Abs: indirect

    Hamstrings/glutes:

    Romanian Deadlifts 5x5

    Good mornings or high foot placement leg press 3x8

    Quads:

    Walking lunges or seated leg extensions 3x12-20

    Triceps:

    Skullcrushers, Dips, or between bench dips 5x5

    Cable pressdowns 3x8-12

    Kickbacks (I’m kidding!)


    Summing It Up

    So there it is, everything you need to build a wide, meaty back that will leave you walking sideways to get through the doorway.
    Thats the program in a nutshell, easy to read, so I'm sure that will answer most of your questions. And as soon as you see me put it to use in this journal you'll see how effective it is.

    Please feel free to post comments/support/suggestions, thanks!
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    380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current)
    405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals)

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    Wednesday; 8-16-2006


    Horizontal Push/Pull (30 minutes, 20 sets)

    Incline DB Presses
    5 sets of 5 with the 90's

    Support Rows
    5 sets of 5 with 210

    Flat DB Flyes
    3 sets of 8 with the 40's

    Rope Cable Rows
    3 sets of 8 with 170

    Pec-Deck Flyes
    2 sets of 12 with 110

    Bentover DB Lateral Raises
    2 sets of 12 with the 20's

    Cardio
    10 minutes of incline walking on the treadmill, 3.4 MPH at an 8% incline.

    Not a bad session at all today, I'm definitely going to be doing the 2 days on then 1 day off split though for this routine. In the past I've done 3 days on 1 day off and even 4 days on 1 day off, but I prefer the 2 on / 1 off split.


    Diet-

    Preworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk + 1/2 cup of oatmeal
    Postworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk + 1/2 cup of oatmeal
    Meal 1: barbecue chicken
    Meal 2: 1% cottage cheese + grapes
    Meal 3: 1/2 cup of almonds
    Meal 4: 2 chicken breasts + stir-fry

    Total Calories: 3,497
    Total (g) Protein: 308g
    Total (g) Carbs: 278g
    Total (g) Fat: 114g


    Sleep- 7 hours.

    Weight- 212 lbs. I'm a little pissed about how heavy I am right now, my goal is honestly to be a solid 200 lbs. even. Even though thats 12 lbs. lighter than I was today, I definitely think thats its possible for me. As long as I keep my diet clean and allow small cheats here and there, while staying under 3K calories per day, I think I'll be fine.
    Last edited by M.J.H.; 08-17-2006 at 07:56 AM.
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    I would think the cycle of SF's routine would be longer then a few weeks.

    Also do you really notice that much in such a short time frame?

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    Hey bud, thanks for stopping by. And honestly, it wasn't necessarily about me noticing results in 3 weeks or not. It was about my goals and how I was feeling on the program. Going heavier is much more taxing on my CNS, and when I'm eating sub-maintenance calories it makes it very difficult to regularly go so heavy.
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    380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current)
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    Looks like a solid program. I want to see your leg day routines

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    Thanks for stopping by man, I'm actually about to post my leg day today.
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    Thursday; 8-17-2006


    Quad Dominant Legs (45 minutes, 19 sets)

    ATF Squats
    5 sets of 5 with 255

    Standing BB Curls
    5 sets of 5 with 95

    Hyperextensions
    3 sets of 8 with 25

    Incline DB Hammer Curls
    2 sets of 10 with the 40's

    Seated Calf Raises
    2 sets of 15 with 180

    Machine Crunches
    2 sets of 15 with 125

    Cardio
    10 minutes of incline walking on the treadmill, 3.4 MPH at an 8% incline.


    Diet-

    Preworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk + 1/2 cup of oatmeal
    Postworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk + 1/2 cup of oatmeal
    Meal 1: grilled chicken salad
    Meal 2: low-carb toast
    Meal 3: 4 scoops of whey protein + 3 cups of skim milk
    Meal 4: 7 tbsp. peanut butter

    Total Calories: 3,105
    Total (g) Protein: 275g
    Total (g) Carbs: 226g
    Total (g) Fat: 117g


    Sleep- 5 hours. Up all damn night with the girlfriend.
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    How did you pick the amount of weight? Are you going on % of 1RM?

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    Sleep- 5 hours. Up all damn night with the girlfriend.
    You should be doing this if you were up with the GF all night


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    Is this like deja vu all over again?

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