Bloodied, but unbound

Burner02 · 10-22-2006, 05:11 PM

Hey DOMS!
I have an occaional mysteryt pain in my delts too. I, like most of us, have to be real careful when doing my pushing exercises.
It sucks getting older...

DOMS · 10-22-2006, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner02

Hey DOMS!
I have an occaional mysteryt pain in my delts too. I, like most of us, have to be real careful when doing my pushing exercises.
It sucks getting older...

I would be willing to just say that it's some mystery pain, but I've seen CowPimp make call after call about injuries and be spot on.

Old? Old?! I'm only 34, not the ancient 35 that you are.

Burner02 · 10-22-2006, 05:45 PM

heh..I'm getting ready to cross the threshold...I'll be 36 in December...the downward slid to 40....no wonder I can't get the 22 year olds to look in my direction any longer...

DOMS · 10-24-2006, 12:36 PM

Okay, I went to see another orthopedic specialist today. This time the examination was much more thorough and they did several x-rays.

The diagnosis? I have AC arthrosis. Pretty much, it means that I developed one or more cracks in the cartilage at the end of the clavical (where it meets up with the acromion). The fluid finds its way inside and start an erosion.

The prognosis? Eventually, I'll need to have an operation to remove the weakened cartilage. The doc said that I can do it now, or, if I'm okay with the pain, I can do it later. Since I'm just this side of a masochist, I told him that we can do it later. He did recommend that I try to keep my reps in the 12-15 range, but said that I could do 4-6 if I wanted to. It would just mean that I'd need the operation sooner and that I'd experience more pain.

I'm really pleased that its not my rotator cuff. So, I'm in a pretty damn fine mood.

Burner02 · 10-24-2006, 05:54 PM

go for the bionics.....
He can be built; stronger, better, faster....

DOMS · 10-25-2006, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner02

go for the bionics.....
He can be built; stronger, better, faster....

I don't have six million dollars. What can I get for a buck fifty?

DOMS · 10-25-2006, 09:12 PM

DB Front Raise / Arnold Press (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6
30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6
- Add 5

Upright Row / Lateral Raise (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
100 @ 6 / 30 @ 6
100 @ 6 / 30 @ 6
- Add 5

Rear Lateral Raise / DB Lying Rear Raise (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6
30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6
- Add 5

Seated BB Press (Dropeset, RI 4 on first set, 1/x/1/x)
120 @ 10
100 @ 5

25/10/2006
KW: delts, shoulders, shock

DOMS · 10-30-2006, 08:04 PM

The last five days have been to hectic to get in a workout. I'm a little low on sleep and a little sick, but I really felt the need to workout. So I did. My workout suffered a bit. But better a slightly subpar workout than no workout.

T-Bar Row (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
180 @ 6
180 @ 6
180 @ 5
180 @ 5

DB Lying Row (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
70 @ 4
70 @ 5
70 @ 4
70 @ 4

BB Shrug (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
260 @ 6
265 @ 6
265 @ 6
265 @ 5

Overhead Shrug (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
110 @ 6
115 @ 6
120 @ 6
120 @ 6
- Still getting a feeling for these.

30/10/2006
KW: back, traps

Burner02 · 10-30-2006, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOMS

I don't have six million dollars. What can I get for a buck fifty?

I hear that Crashman goes for cheap....

DOMS · 10-30-2006, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner02

I hear that Crashman goes for cheap....

I'm pretty sure that whatever Crashman can do for me, won't make a better man.

Burner02 · 10-30-2006, 10:31 PM

you get what you pay for, sir...

KelJu · 10-31-2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOMS

The last five days have been to hectic to get in a workout. I'm a little low on sleep and a little sick, but I really felt the need to workout. So I did. My workout suffered a bit. But better a slightly subpar workout than no workout.

T-Bar Row (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
180 @ 6
180 @ 6
180 @ 5
180 @ 5

DB Lying Row (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
70 @ 4
70 @ 5
70 @ 4
70 @ 4

BB Shrug (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
260 @ 6
265 @ 6
265 @ 6
265 @ 5

Overhead Shrug (RI 2, 1/x/1/x)
110 @ 6
115 @ 6
120 @ 6
120 @ 6
- Still getting a feeling for these.

30/10/2006
KW: back, traps

@ the T-bar rows. You must have a strong back naturally. I have been training like a mofo, and I can't do more than 135 for reps. Nice Job.

DOMS · 10-31-2006, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelJu

@ the T-bar rows. You must have a strong back naturally. I have been training like a mofo, and I can't do more than 135 for reps. Nice Job.

Thanks, KelJu!

It must be genetics, I don't do anything special.

Maybe it's because I've been doing T-Bars for a year?

DOMS · 11-02-2006, 11:20 AM

Alrighty then. I've made it past the rather turbulent last week or so and have my schedule down solid. Time to get back to the grind.

Bring the pain.

I was reading through Triple Threat's awesome journal and found something very interesting. I stumbled upon Bill Starr's 5 x 5 routine.

.........Very interesting, indeed.

So, just another routine? Big deal, right? Well, not so. It seems that the program may not be workable for several people. Thinking about it, I came to a conclusion. Maybe it didn't work for TT and Stewart because they're so far along in weight training and a lot weaker. Perhaps it'll work for someone not so far along? Such as...me?

Plus, since two of the stronger members here said it may not be workable, well...that sounds like a challenge to me.

It also sounds painful and grueling. Both of which I like.

Okay, goal time. What's my goal? It is to add 50% to all my weights? Is it to put me into competition shape? Hell, no! I just want to make it week 5. Don't get me wrong, if I can go longer, I sure as hell will. I want to make it past the wall that is the fourth week.

I'll likely start my first workout tomorrow morning at 5:15. I'm going to plan it, and select my starting weight, tonight. If I get stuck on setting up the program, I'll take the time to get some help.

I like pain.

fufu · 11-02-2006, 08:15 PM

Good luck with that. I have not read too much about it myself but I get the jist, pretty intense stuff.

DOMS · 11-03-2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fufu

Good luck with that. I have not read too much about it myself but I get the jist, pretty intense stuff.

Yep. You can read about it TT's journal. It's good stuff.

Ain't Gonna Happen. At least, not today anyway. I didn't get to sleep until 0200 and I have a sore throat.

This sucks.

DOMS · 11-04-2006, 11:59 AM

I'm still ill, but I couldn't go another day of not working out. But I also have trouble breathing, so I'm not up to a full workout.

So, I figured that I'd do a workout to find where I sit with deadlifts. I need to do this if I'm going to give the 5x5 a shot.

I haven't done a straight up deadlift in a long time. I've only been doing the Romanian versions. The last time I did regular deadlifts I was able to 6 @ 195.

Next time I need to start a higher weight.

Deadlifts (the RI is listed next to the set, 1/x/1/x)
100 @ 6 (RI 1)
125 @ 6 (RI 1)
150 @ 6 (RI 1)
175 @ 6 (RI 1)
200 @ 5 (RI 2)
225 @ 5 (RI 2)
250 @ 1 (RI 2)

Malley · 11-04-2006, 12:11 PM

5x5 is a good program, but I have heard alot of people say that the rest isnt enough. Seems like it takes alot out of ya. Be sure to get your rest.

DOMS · 11-04-2006, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

5x5 is a good program, but I have heard alot of people say that the rest isnt enough. Seems like it takes alot out of ya. Be sure to get your rest.

Thanks for the tip.

For the last few months, I've been doing the 4-6 rep rang with a 1 to 2 minute RI. But I only did 3 or 4 sets. I'll start out with a 3 minute RI.

Malley · 11-04-2006, 12:49 PM

Sounds like a good plan to me.

Triple Threat · 11-09-2006, 07:38 PM

MIA for a couple of days. Feeling OK?

DOMS · 11-10-2006, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

MIA for a couple of days. Feeling OK?

Hell no.

I've been sick for a week now. I missed a day and a half of work this week. Which is very unusual for a workoholic such as myself. I've started feeling better today, though. Right now I'm at 90%. I figure that I should be 100% by tomorrow, so I'll start week 1, day 1 then.

Thanks for checking in on me, TT.

DOMS · 11-15-2006, 07:18 AM

Week 1, Day 1

My cable modem died three days ago and I think it's working now. It's failed once or twice since I had the modem replaced, though.

On Monday I was still a bit ill. I felt like I was at 90% or so, but since the workout was pretty easy, I did it anyway.

Since the routine was pretty easy, I did 2 RI instead of the planned 3. The only substitutions that I did were Seated BB Presses instead of Military Presses and T-Bar Row instead of (what I assume is) the Seated Cable Row (they just called them Rows

).

I've also started stretching again. I'm doing the routine that's commonly found in Aikido dojos. It feels pretty good.

Squat (RI 2)
100 @ 5
125 @ 5
150 @ 5
175 @ 5

Bench (RI 2)
70 @ 5
90 @ 5
105 @ 5
125 @ 5
140 @ 5

T-Bar Row (RI 2)
75 @ 5
95 @ 5
110 @ 5
130 @ 5
150 @ 5

KW: 5x5
15/11/2006

Triple Threat · 11-15-2006, 10:12 AM

Is a set of squats missing? I interpreted rows to be Bentover BB rows, but I'm sure that T-Bars will be just as good.

DOMS · 11-15-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Is a set of squats missing? I interpreted rows to be Bentover BB rows, but I'm sure that T-Bars will be just as good.

Dammit!

Yes, I forgot to write the final set of 200 @ 5.

I thought it might be Bent-over Rows if it wasn't Seated Cable Rows, but hey, T-Bars allow for more weight anyway (than the Bent-over Rows).

10-22-2006, 05:11 PM	#271
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,316	Hey DOMS! I have an occaional mysteryt pain in my delts too. I, like most of us, have to be real careful when doing my pushing exercises. It sucks getting older...
	Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

10-22-2006, 05:45 PM	#273
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,316	heh..I'm getting ready to cross the threshold...I'll be 36 in December...the downward slid to 40....no wonder I can't get the 22 year olds to look in my direction any longer...
	Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

10-24-2006, 12:36 PM	#274
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,514 Photos: 5	Okay, I went to see another orthopedic specialist today. This time the examination was much more thorough and they did several x-rays. The diagnosis? I have AC arthrosis. Pretty much, it means that I developed one or more cracks in the cartilage at the end of the clavical (where it meets up with the acromion). The fluid finds its way inside and start an erosion. The prognosis? Eventually, I'll need to have an operation to remove the weakened cartilage. The doc said that I can do it now, or, if I'm okay with the pain, I can do it later. Since I'm just this side of a masochist, I told him that we can do it later. He did recommend that I try to keep my reps in the 12-15 range, but said that I could do 4-6 if I wanted to. It would just mean that I'd need the operation sooner and that I'd experience more pain. I'm really pleased that its not my rotator cuff. So, I'm in a pretty damn fine mood. Last edited by DOMS : 10-24-2006 at 01:03 PM.
	I never lie because I don't fear anyone. You only lie when you're afraid.—John Gotti

10-24-2006, 05:54 PM	#275
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,316	go for the bionics..... He can be built; stronger, better, faster....
	Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

10-25-2006, 09:12 PM	#277
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,514 Photos: 5	DB Front Raise / Arnold Press (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6 30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6 - Add 5 Upright Row / Lateral Raise (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 100 @ 6 / 30 @ 6 100 @ 6 / 30 @ 6 - Add 5 Rear Lateral Raise / DB Lying Rear Raise (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6 30 @ 6 / 30 @ 6 - Add 5 Seated BB Press (Dropeset, RI 4 on first set, 1/x/1/x) 120 @ 10 100 @ 5 25/10/2006 KW: delts, shoulders, shock
	I never lie because I don't fear anyone. You only lie when you're afraid.—John Gotti

10-30-2006, 08:04 PM	#278
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,514 Photos: 5	The last five days have been to hectic to get in a workout. I'm a little low on sleep and a little sick, but I really felt the need to workout. So I did. My workout suffered a bit. But better a slightly subpar workout than no workout. T-Bar Row (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 180 @ 6 180 @ 6 180 @ 5 180 @ 5 DB Lying Row (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 70 @ 4 70 @ 5 70 @ 4 70 @ 4 BB Shrug (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 260 @ 6 265 @ 6 265 @ 6 265 @ 5 Overhead Shrug (RI 2, 1/x/1/x) 110 @ 6 115 @ 6 120 @ 6 120 @ 6 - Still getting a feeling for these. 30/10/2006 KW: back, traps
	I never lie because I don't fear anyone. You only lie when you're afraid.—John Gotti

10-30-2006, 10:31 PM	#281
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tip of the spear! Posts: 28,316	you get what you pay for, sir...
	Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

11-02-2006, 11:20 AM	#284
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,514 Photos: 5	Alrighty then. I've made it past the rather turbulent last week or so and have my schedule down solid. Time to get back to the grind. Bring the pain. I was reading through Triple Threat's awesome journal and found something very interesting. I stumbled upon Bill Starr's 5 x 5 routine. .........Very interesting, indeed. So, just another routine? Big deal, right? Well, not so. It seems that the program may not be workable for several people. Thinking about it, I came to a conclusion. Maybe it didn't work for TT and Stewart because they're so far along in weight training and a lot weaker. Perhaps it'll work for someone not so far along? Such as...me? Plus, since two of the stronger members here said it may not be workable, well...that sounds like a challenge to me. It also sounds painful and grueling. Both of which I like. Okay, goal time. What's my goal? It is to add 50% to all my weights? Is it to put me into competition shape? Hell, no! I just want to make it week 5. Don't get me wrong, if I can go longer, I sure as hell will. I want to make it past the wall that is the fourth week. I'll likely start my first workout tomorrow morning at 5:15. I'm going to plan it, and select my starting weight, tonight. If I get stuck on setting up the program, I'll take the time to get some help. I like pain.
	I never lie because I don't fear anyone. You only lie when you're afraid.—John Gotti

11-02-2006, 08:15 PM	#285
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,235 Photos: 7	Good luck with that. I have not read too much about it myself but I get the jist, pretty intense stuff.
	fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

11-04-2006, 11:59 AM	#287
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,514 Photos: 5	I'm still ill, but I couldn't go another day of not working out. But I also have trouble breathing, so I'm not up to a full workout. So, I figured that I'd do a workout to find where I sit with deadlifts. I need to do this if I'm going to give the 5x5 a shot. I haven't done a straight up deadlift in a long time. I've only been doing the Romanian versions. The last time I did regular deadlifts I was able to 6 @ 195. Next time I need to start a higher weight. Deadlifts (the RI is listed next to the set, 1/x/1/x) 100 @ 6 (RI 1) 125 @ 6 (RI 1) 150 @ 6 (RI 1) 175 @ 6 (RI 1) 200 @ 5 (RI 2) 225 @ 5 (RI 2) 250 @ 1 (RI 2)
	I never lie because I don't fear anyone. You only lie when you're afraid.—John Gotti

11-04-2006, 12:11 PM	#288
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	5x5 is a good program, but I have heard alot of people say that the rest isnt enough. Seems like it takes alot out of ya. Be sure to get your rest.
	www.crossfit.com

11-04-2006, 12:49 PM	#290
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,008	Sounds like a good plan to me.
	www.crossfit.com

11-09-2006, 07:38 PM	#291
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,474 Photos: 6	MIA for a couple of days. Feeling OK?

11-15-2006, 07:18 AM	#293
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,514 Photos: 5	Week 1, Day 1 My cable modem died three days ago and I think it's working now. It's failed once or twice since I had the modem replaced, though. On Monday I was still a bit ill. I felt like I was at 90% or so, but since the workout was pretty easy, I did it anyway. Since the routine was pretty easy, I did 2 RI instead of the planned 3. The only substitutions that I did were Seated BB Presses instead of Military Presses and T-Bar Row instead of (what I assume is) the Seated Cable Row (they just called them Rows ). I've also started stretching again. I'm doing the routine that's commonly found in Aikido dojos. It feels pretty good. Squat (RI 2) 100 @ 5 125 @ 5 150 @ 5 175 @ 5 Bench (RI 2) 70 @ 5 90 @ 5 105 @ 5 125 @ 5 140 @ 5 T-Bar Row (RI 2) 75 @ 5 95 @ 5 110 @ 5 130 @ 5 150 @ 5 KW: 5x5 15/11/2006
	I never lie because I don't fear anyone. You only lie when you're afraid.—John Gotti

11-15-2006, 10:12 AM	#294
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,474 Photos: 6	Is a set of squats missing? I interpreted rows to be Bentover BB rows, but I'm sure that T-Bars will be just as good.