Camaro's Offseason Journal

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 01:49 PM

After deciding an attempt to compete next April in the local amateur bodybuilding show, I have been "offseason" since the beginning of July.

I will continue my offseason bulking quest until right after christmas... seeing that the holidays are among my favorite times to eat!

I have been using DC training for a litle over two months... and will continue to use it throughout the entire competition prep.

My calories offseason are anywhere from a MINIMUM 4000 cals per day, but my GOAL is 4,500 to 5000 per day.... without counting micros too much.

I do get anywhere from 275 to 325 grams of protein per/lb daily. Mainly off of chicken breasts, red meats and blended shakes.

I am currently at 260 lbs fully clothed after a workout....

I dont take any supplements really other than protein powders, the occasional MRP and creatine mono. (Im about to try some CEE from Rob's product list)

Preworkout I usually drink a few cups of coffee or Ultimate Orange drink, which I got 45 free sample packs from the nice gentleman at Vitamin Shoppe

My last workout was Friday evening... and here is is

On all hammer strength and smith machines, I count the numbers just as I would on a regular bench or olympic bar, counting the machine weight with no weights on either side at 45lbs. Much like an olympic bar with no weight added is 45 lbs.

Lying Hammer Strength Bench Press
425 x 9 (rest pause 20 secs) x 2 rp x 2

Hammer Shoulder Press
335 x 9 rp x 2 rp x 0

Closegrip Pulldowns

315lbs x 8 rp x 2 rp x 2

Tricep Extensions on a pull-down machine
150 x 8

T-Bar Rows
6-45lb plates x 6

Extreme Stretching when done.

**DOMS** · 09-10-2006, 01:52 PM

Good luck with your journal and you workouts.

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 01:56 PM

Gracias.

**DOMS** · 09-10-2006, 01:58 PM

Da nada.

Double D · 09-10-2006, 02:58 PM

Looks pretty good. Strong as always.

fufu · 09-10-2006, 03:05 PM

What exactly is "extreme stetching"?

BigDyl · 09-10-2006, 03:07 PM

How the hell are you so strong?

Stewart20 · 09-10-2006, 05:11 PM

holy crap you are big....260?!?! when did you get so big?

how do you like the DC training? do you find the 1 RP set to be enough for superior growth??

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 05:45 PM

Extreme stretching is simply fascia stretching after each set or workout.

They are usually between 45 seconds and 2 minutes in length, and fairly, if not EXTREMELY painful.

DC's training has one do a fascia stretch after each set... for example, after my chest set, I would grab two 110lb dumbells and slowly bring them down as if doing a chest press and hold them in the most negative position I could for 45 seconds to 2 minutes.

Each bodypart has one or two (or more) stretches you can incorporate after each bodypart.

I really love/hate them.

And thanks guys for you comments. My strength is better than ever... I am eating a TON of food and my protein is as high as Ive ever taken it. Im (trying) to eat about 4500 to 5000 cals per day with about 300 grams of protein... over 5 or 6 meals... and after the inital bloat I got after a week or two, my strength shot through the roof! It was a real wake up call on my lack of attention to diet.

I just broke my old Squat and Deadlift PB's... I got a 530 dead for 4 reps and a 440 squat for 6 (parallel). I would really like to acheive a 500 lb squat and 600 lb deadlift by the years end.

And DC's training isnt really 1 set... more like three if you include the rest-pause aspect of it..... More than anything I enjoy the intensity of the workouts. I actually enjoy that.. which is why Ive always been so partial to HIT type workouts. Im not making any claims that it is the best way to train, or scientifically sound, but it really fits my personal style and I love the challenge it presents.

JerseyDevil · 09-10-2006, 05:47 PM

Hey Camaro! How have you been man? Are you going mainly with machines so you can do the rp sets? I've been experimenting with DC also, and really like it so far. My only complaint is I like using BB movements so sometimes I have problems finding a spot. In my case though, I don't mind switching up between DC and conventional sets because 1) I'm old and 2) my left elbow has arthritis and tendonitis, so constant rp sets are not a good thing

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 05:52 PM

Hey Jersey, long time!

Hope things are well bro.

Yea, I usually do Hammers for two reasons. One is because of the lack of spot... very hard to find a good spotter at higher weights.

Secondly, as you probably know, DC has you rotate between 3 exercises of your choice until you are no longer progressing, in which you switch it up. All the Hammers are basic compound movements.... I mostly do free weights, but use some machines as well to aid with spotting and rest-pausing. Oh, and Im not a huge fan of bench pressing.

Where are you at currently in your training?

JerseyDevil · 09-10-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Where are you at currently in your training?

Apparently not nearly as far along as you buddy

. After a few steroid cycles, I have been completely clean for 2 years. I had some injuries that set me back and since then I've just been trying to post respectable numbers again.

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 06:34 PM

I remember your older days, when I was still fairly new in this forum, I asked YOU for advice on things like pro-horomones and steroid cycles.

CLean for 2 years? Congrats bro... how do you feel.. overall?

on a side note... what was your strongest cycle (highest dosages, length, gains, etc?)

KelJu · 09-10-2006, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Extreme stretching is simply fascia stretching after each set or workout.

They are usually between 45 seconds and 2 minutes in length, and fairly, if not EXTREMELY painful.

DC's training has one do a fascia stretch after each set... for example, after my chest set, I would grab two 110lb dumbells and slowly bring them down as if doing a chest press and hold them in the most negative position I could for 45 seconds to 2 minutes.

Each bodypart has one or two (or more) stretches you can incorporate after each bodypart.

I really love/hate them.

And thanks guys for you comments. My strength is better than ever... I am eating a TON of food and my protein is as high as Ive ever taken it. Im (trying) to eat about 4500 to 5000 cals per day with about 300 grams of protein... over 5 or 6 meals... and after the inital bloat I got after a week or two, my strength shot through the roof! It was a real wake up call on my lack of attention to diet.

I just broke my old Squat and Deadlift PB's... I got a 530 dead for 4 reps and a 440 squat for 6 (parallel). I would really like to acheive a 500 lb squat and 600 lb deadlift by the years end.

And DC's training isnt really 1 set... more like three if you include the rest-pause aspect of it..... More than anything I enjoy the intensity of the workouts. I actually enjoy that.. which is why Ive always been so partial to HIT type workouts. Im not making any claims that it is the best way to train, or scientifically sound, but it really fits my personal style and I love the challenge it presents.

That is awesome dude. I wanted to get into DC training, but I was too late and missed the boat. I hear the gay, Dante doesn’t want to share is stuff anymore, because people screwed is methodology up. I can understand, but I sure would love to get my hands on some DC material.

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 06:55 PM

You can stlll find the basics in recent ironmanmagazine... and another one I have forgotten.

his website still has plenty of info on it as well

intensemuscle.com... if you want to look it up.

KelJu · 09-10-2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

You can stlll find the basics in recent ironmanmagazine... and another one I have forgotten.

his website still has plenty of info on it as well

intensemuscle.com... if you want to look it up.

Thanks man!

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 07:25 PM

Oh... and do a search for cycling for pennies.... on google.

Thats it in a nutshell.

**CowPimp** · 09-10-2006, 08:39 PM

You're a strong mofo. 260 is no joke either.

I feel you on the eating too. I'm eating about 4400 calories a day myself right now, and I weigh almost 75 pounds less than you, haha. Gains are about to taper off again too I suspect.

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 08:47 PM

Wow.

Thats a LOT of calories for a lighter guy.

How are you taking in all those cals?

**CowPimp** · 09-10-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Wow.

Thats a LOT of calories for a lighter guy.

How are you taking in all those cals?

By eating 6 whole food meals and 2 shakes a day. Sometimes more.

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 08:51 PM

On a budget none the less.

Kudos.

Dont you ever get tired of eating that much though.

I know some days I do.

**CowPimp** · 09-10-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

On a budget none the less.

Kudos.

Dont you ever get tired of eating that much though.

I know some days I do.

Sometimes it's hard, but lately I actually get hungry before some of my meals come up. My metabolism is fucked revved to high heaven right now. My activity levels just went up another notch. I walk even more now, and I will be working out twice a day on Tuesday and Thursday starting next week.

I totally feel you though. If you end up force feeding, that shit sucks. Shakes help a lot in that case. Do you miss your calorie target ever?

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 08:57 PM

Dude I do miss it. Its hard to do with life. I usually take weekends "off".. just eating whatever Im hungry for. But mon-fri, I eat basically the same thing every day.

Go to costco and buy in bulk.

What are your goal?

**CowPimp** · 09-10-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Dude I do miss it. Its hard to do with life. I usually take weekends "off".. just eating whatever Im hungry for. But mon-fri, I eat basically the same thing every day.

Go to costco and buy in bulk.

What are your goal?

Definitely is hard to do. Sometimes I catch myself eating on the run, almost literally, heh. I definitely get looser on the weekends too. You have to for sanity reasons, but I still try to reach my calorie goal, or pretty close to it.

That's a good idea with Costco. Lately I've been shopping at Whole Foods, which is expensive, you just have to know what to pick. I need to find a Costco around me, that seems like a big eater's mainstay, heh.

Absolute strength and general health/fitness are my goals. Size is just a means to my end. I really like to be well rounded though: power, conditioning, flexibility, etc.

Where's DD these days?

camarosuper6 · 09-10-2006, 09:18 PM

Hes around.

Dieted down real lean...... got his NASM cert just so he could work at a club.

Things are the same.

Hes actually coming over in a few.

ANything new going on?

09-10-2006, 01:49 PM	#1
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Camaro's Offseason Journal BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com After deciding an attempt to compete next April in the local amateur bodybuilding show, I have been "offseason" since the beginning of July. I will continue my offseason bulking quest until right after christmas... seeing that the holidays are among my favorite times to eat! I have been using DC training for a litle over two months... and will continue to use it throughout the entire competition prep. My calories offseason are anywhere from a MINIMUM 4000 cals per day, but my GOAL is 4,500 to 5000 per day.... without counting micros too much. I do get anywhere from 275 to 325 grams of protein per/lb daily. Mainly off of chicken breasts, red meats and blended shakes. I am currently at 260 lbs fully clothed after a workout.... I dont take any supplements really other than protein powders, the occasional MRP and creatine mono. (Im about to try some CEE from Rob's product list) Preworkout I usually drink a few cups of coffee or Ultimate Orange drink, which I got 45 free sample packs from the nice gentleman at Vitamin Shoppe My last workout was Friday evening... and here is is On all hammer strength and smith machines, I count the numbers just as I would on a regular bench or olympic bar, counting the machine weight with no weights on either side at 45lbs. Much like an olympic bar with no weight added is 45 lbs. Lying Hammer Strength Bench Press 425 x 9 (rest pause 20 secs) x 2 rp x 2 Hammer Shoulder Press 335 x 9 rp x 2 rp x 0 Closegrip Pulldowns 315lbs x 8 rp x 2 rp x 2 Tricep Extensions on a pull-down machine 150 x 8 T-Bar Rows 6-45lb plates x 6 Extreme Stretching when done.
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09-10-2006, 01:56 PM	#3
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Gracias.
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09-10-2006, 02:58 PM	#5
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09-10-2006, 03:05 PM	#6
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09-10-2006, 05:11 PM	#8
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09-10-2006, 05:45 PM	#9
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Extreme stretching is simply fascia stretching after each set or workout. They are usually between 45 seconds and 2 minutes in length, and fairly, if not EXTREMELY painful. DC's training has one do a fascia stretch after each set... for example, after my chest set, I would grab two 110lb dumbells and slowly bring them down as if doing a chest press and hold them in the most negative position I could for 45 seconds to 2 minutes. Each bodypart has one or two (or more) stretches you can incorporate after each bodypart. I really love/hate them. And thanks guys for you comments. My strength is better than ever... I am eating a TON of food and my protein is as high as Ive ever taken it. Im (trying) to eat about 4500 to 5000 cals per day with about 300 grams of protein... over 5 or 6 meals... and after the inital bloat I got after a week or two, my strength shot through the roof! It was a real wake up call on my lack of attention to diet. I just broke my old Squat and Deadlift PB's... I got a 530 dead for 4 reps and a 440 squat for 6 (parallel). I would really like to acheive a 500 lb squat and 600 lb deadlift by the years end. And DC's training isnt really 1 set... more like three if you include the rest-pause aspect of it..... More than anything I enjoy the intensity of the workouts. I actually enjoy that.. which is why Ive always been so partial to HIT type workouts. Im not making any claims that it is the best way to train, or scientifically sound, but it really fits my personal style and I love the challenge it presents.
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 05:47 PM	#10
JerseyDevil Done Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,175	Hey Camaro! How have you been man? Are you going mainly with machines so you can do the rp sets? I've been experimenting with DC also, and really like it so far. My only complaint is I like using BB movements so sometimes I have problems finding a spot. In my case though, I don't mind switching up between DC and conventional sets because 1) I'm old and 2) my left elbow has arthritis and tendonitis, so constant rp sets are not a good thing

09-10-2006, 05:52 PM	#11
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Hey Jersey, long time! Hope things are well bro. Yea, I usually do Hammers for two reasons. One is because of the lack of spot... very hard to find a good spotter at higher weights. Secondly, as you probably know, DC has you rotate between 3 exercises of your choice until you are no longer progressing, in which you switch it up. All the Hammers are basic compound movements.... I mostly do free weights, but use some machines as well to aid with spotting and rest-pausing. Oh, and Im not a huge fan of bench pressing. Where are you at currently in your training?
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 06:34 PM	#13
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	I remember your older days, when I was still fairly new in this forum, I asked YOU for advice on things like pro-horomones and steroid cycles. CLean for 2 years? Congrats bro... how do you feel.. overall? on a side note... what was your strongest cycle (highest dosages, length, gains, etc?)
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 06:55 PM	#15
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	You can stlll find the basics in recent ironmanmagazine... and another one I have forgotten. his website still has plenty of info on it as well intensemuscle.com... if you want to look it up.
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 07:25 PM	#17
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Oh... and do a search for cycling for pennies.... on google. Thats it in a nutshell.
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 08:39 PM	#18
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,400	You're a strong mofo. 260 is no joke either. I feel you on the eating too. I'm eating about 4400 calories a day myself right now, and I weigh almost 75 pounds less than you, haha. Gains are about to taper off again too I suspect.
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09-10-2006, 08:47 PM	#19
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Wow. Thats a LOT of calories for a lighter guy. How are you taking in all those cals?
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 08:51 PM	#21
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	On a budget none the less. Kudos. Dont you ever get tired of eating that much though. I know some days I do.
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 08:57 PM	#23
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Dude I do miss it. Its hard to do with life. I usually take weekends "off".. just eating whatever Im hungry for. But mon-fri, I eat basically the same thing every day. Go to costco and buy in bulk. What are your goal?
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?

09-10-2006, 09:18 PM	#25
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	Hes around. Dieted down real lean...... got his NASM cert just so he could work at a club. Things are the same. Hes actually coming over in a few. ANything new going on?
	"TOLERANCE is the virtue of a man without convictions" G.K.Chesterton Boot Shine and Polish $15. New Uniforms: $250 New gun and holster: $450 Looking like a stud in uniform: Priceless Girl: Me and this new guy are getting kinda chummy. Me: Good chummy? Like friends forever? Girl: Ya Me: Or Chummy like, spank my ass chummy?