Becoming A Jaw Dropper

brazeneye · 03-06-2008, 09:43 AM

Thank you! I am still here, and still trying to be good and post my progress here. I'm going to be moving, and I'll finally be out of a dorm, with my own kitchen and equipment, so it will really help my progress.

I'll be here poking around!

AKIRA · 03-06-2008, 10:42 AM

Do you have any updated pics? I dont see this journal often, so just wondered if you looked even better than before.

Irons77 · 03-06-2008, 11:02 AM

I'm dying to see new pics, she look good a few years ago.......Canada has some hotties!

JailHouse · 03-06-2008, 11:18 AM

In for new pics!

NordicNacho · 03-06-2008, 11:54 AM

brazeneye · 04-03-2008, 10:26 AM

Hahaha, I am still here! I keep getting sidetracked on updating here. I'm coming up with a good meal plan.. picks should be up this weekend!

Irons77 · 04-03-2008, 10:35 AM

YES, YES, do you have a time when? lol

brazeneye · 04-03-2008, 11:25 AM

Hahaha, no idea when.

brazeneye · 04-03-2008, 11:52 AM

It's a work in progress, but this is what I have for right now..

Breakfast:
Banana
1 scoop chocolate soy protein
1 cup unsweetened soy milk
Calories: 300 / Fat: 6g - 17% / Carbs: 38g - 45% / Protein: 29g - 33%

Snack:
1 small container of soy yogurt
1/2 scoop chocolate soy protein
1/2 tablespoon of peanut butter
Calores: 232 / Fat: 6g - 23% / Carbs: 29g - 49% / Protein: 17g - 29%

Lunch:
1/2 chickpeas
1/2 green apple
1/2 oz raisins (or small snack box)
1/2 cup corn
1 can tuna - all mixed with lemon juice and dill
Calories: 348 / Fat: 3g - 9% / Carbs: 48g - 50% / Protein: 33g - 42%

Snack:
1/4. cup unsweetened soy mik
1/2 scoop vanilla soy protein powder
1/2 cup pineapple chunks
1/4 tsp coconut extract
1/2 cup strawberries
Calories: 287 / Fat: 5g - 17% / Carbs: 36g - 47% / Protein: 26g - 36%

Total Calories: 1167 / Fat: 20g - 17% / Carbs: 151g - 48% / Protein: 114g - 35%

I didn't intend it to be so low fat.. and I am also missing out on my dinner, because I usually make something, or my boyfriend makes something for me, but I try and keep it around or under 1600 calories for the day.

BigDyl · 04-03-2008, 02:20 PM

I'd say lose some carbs and add some fat. Fat, like omega-3's are brain fuel for the mind. Add some fish oils, olive oil, flaxseed, and even whole eggs here and there. Fat doesn't make you fat, excess calories above maintenance makes you fat.

Also, when you consume more carbs then you need--assuming you are above caloric maintenance, just slightly, the glycogen spills over into adipose. If you were eating more low carb / high fat, your glycogen stores would be more empty, and you'd never run that risk, even if you ate slightly above maintenance level. This of course requires some glycogen depletion from cardio/weight training workouts.

It's all relative, of course, if you eat below maintenance you will lose weight... doesn't mean you will lose fat, maybe some muscle, some fat. It depends on the macro nutrient ratio's you consume. Also, if your calories are too low for too long your body adjusts by lowering your metabolic rate, which makes you lower your cals even more. So the proverbial refeed for a few meals one day a week.

If you did decide to go low carb you can store roughly 4 x LBM in carbs. So if you have 100 lb's of LBM, you can store 400 carbs in empty stores before they spill over into adipose. So if you carb deplete yourself, you can have one day a week (refeed day) where you consume 1600 calories worth of carbs + your daily maintenance calories (1600). So you can eat 3200 calories and not gain any fat, the next day your back on low carb so you don't risk the spill over, and if you're fat adapted, you will burn most of your calories on low carb days from fat. You depelete your reserves with cardio, weight training and strenous labor.

This is one angel you can try. But the golden rule is eat below your maintenance level in calories.

brazeneye · 04-03-2008, 02:38 PM

Yes, I think definintely my maintenance is 1600, because I can never get below 140 at eating at that calorie amount.

Using a lean mass body calculator - Invalid calculator - my LBM is 98lbs..

Would you count taking in your oils as foods.. because I haven't been, and I have about 3tbls a day of either flax or fish oil a day.

How much would you guess I would/should be eating for carbs a day?

I generally lose around 1200-1400 calories a day. I am pretty small (petite), and I keep reading what other people are doing, and I compare myself to them and how many calories they are taking in a day, and then I want to increase mine because I think I am taking in too low. I had a metabolic test last year, and the results said my RMR is about 1400.

BigDyl · 04-03-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

Yes, I think definintely my maintenance is 1600, because I can never get below 140 at eating at that calorie amount.

Using a lean mass body calculator - Invalid calculator - my LBM is 98lbs..

Would you count taking in your oils as foods.. because I haven't been, and I have about 3tbls a day of either flax or fish oil a day.

How much would you guess I would/should be eating for carbs a day?

I generally lose around 1200-1400 calories a day. I am pretty small (petite), and I keep reading what other people are doing, and I compare myself to them and how many calories they are taking in a day, and then I want to increase mine because I think I am taking in too low. I had a metabolic test last year, and the results said my RMR is about 1400.

Oils are most definetly calories. Not only are they cals, they are the highest density cals you can eat. 1 tablespoon of fish oil is roughly 120 calories. 1 tablespoon of milled flaxseeds are about 30-40 calories.

Most people really don't need more than 50-100 carbs a day. Anything else is usually excess unless you are doing a ton of cardio. The diet I've been working with has you eating 30 carbs a day on low carb days, but one refeed day where the carbs are virtually limitless (because empty glycogen stores). Some rules apply however, like meal size has to still be reasonable so you don't spike insuilin, and you shoot for a period of the refeed, say 12 hours. Other than that, you could eat anything, but i try to stay away from transfats, and HFCS. Also, fructose is stored in the liver, so if you eat too much fructose, it will spill over into fat reserves much fast, because your liver holds less.

This idealogy is based on CKD and TKD diets. Cyclic Ketogenic Diets that is. The idea is to hover just above ketosis. You don't want to be in ketosis because it's very catabolic, but if you hover just above it, you get all the benefits without the muscle wasting.

On this diet you eat a ton of fat, eggs, steak, beef, bacon, and veggies like spinach, celery, bell peppers, but you keep the carbs under 30 per day.

Most people think when you eat fat, you get fat. Untrue, it's all about calories in versus calories out. However, if you eat alot of fat, your body produces way more fat burning enzymes. And with those floating around, you have alot more fat burning potential happening than with high carb diets.

The Anabolic Diet: More Muscles, More Strength, Less Fat | StrongLifts.com

Why the Anabolic Diet works & How | StrongLifts.com

brazeneye · 04-03-2008, 04:27 PM

I'll be counting those now for sure then. Milled flaxseeds would be the actual seeds and not the oil?

I try to stay away from sugar in general. But I will definitely be trying out a 30g carb diet. I have done a sort of variation of Atkins (it asks you to eat about 20-30g of carbs per day), without all the fatty meat and dairy, so this wouldn't be much of a feat for me, it'll make an easy transition.

And I am not scared at all when it comes to fat!

brazeneye · 04-03-2008, 04:28 PM

Thanks for the links!

BigDyl · 04-03-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I'll be counting those now for sure then. Milled flaxseeds would be the actual seeds and not the oil?

I try to stay away from sugar in general. But I will definitely be trying out a 30g carb diet. I have done a sort of variation of Atkins (it asks you to eat about 20-30g of carbs per day), without all the fatty meat and dairy, so this wouldn't be much of a feat for me, it'll make an easy transition.

And I am not scared at all when it comes to fat!

This is just an idea I'm throwing at you. As with everything it's trial and error. However there is a small cult developing around these CKD diets, and I've yet to see someone who hasn't had success.

The anabolic diet calls for a 12 day break in period. During this period you may crash one day. This 'crash' is your body basically breaking the krebs cycle and rebuilding it to use fat as a primary fuel source versus glucose. It still uses both, but prefers fat. So now bodyfat is fuel, and glycogen is more of a reserve used during more strenous cardio or weight lifting.

After the 12 days of eating 30 carbs a day, you have your carb up, then shift to the 5-6 day low carb, 1-2 day carb ups. Some people have better sucess with a 12 hour carb up. The carb up is nessasary for a few reasons. For one, it boosts leptin, and signals your body that it's in a fed state, and your RMR is raised. It also puts you in an anabolic state and fat burning state. You'll still continue burning fat while eating carbs, just make sure to add fat to each meal.

If you're interested in it, I uploaded the slightly older version, PDF format:

Anabolic Diet

katt · 04-04-2008, 05:46 AM

Thought I'd put my 2 cents in here.. I also am doing a low carb type program.. it's 5 days low carb and 2 days high carb.. it's working really well for me..

the only down side I can see to do that after 3 days of the low carb, my energy levels and strength drop dramatically.. but it has been great for fat loss and retaining my muscle mass..

BigDyl · 04-04-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by katt

Thought I'd put my 2 cents in here.. I also am doing a low carb type program.. it's 5 days low carb and 2 days high carb.. it's working really well for me..

the only down side I can see to do that after 3 days of the low carb, my energy levels and strength drop dramatically.. but it has been great for fat loss and retaining my muscle mass..

This may be because you're not truly fat adapted. If you go through the break in period, you may crash or may not. After you are fat adapted you tend to have more energy on less carbs, as crazy as it seems. Your body doesn't mind using fat for fuel, it prefers it. You may want to try staying 30 carbs a day or less for 12 days, and see if that breaks you in better.

brazeneye · 04-04-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

This is just an idea I'm throwing at you. As with everything it's trial and error. However there is a small cult developing around these CKD diets, and I've yet to see someone who hasn't had success.

The anabolic diet calls for a 12 day break in period. During this period you may crash one day. This 'crash' is your body basically breaking the krebs cycle and rebuilding it to use fat as a primary fuel source versus glucose. It still uses both, but prefers fat. So now bodyfat is fuel, and glycogen is more of a reserve used during more strenous cardio or weight lifting.

After the 12 days of eating 30 carbs a day, you have your carb up, then shift to the 5-6 day low carb, 1-2 day carb ups. Some people have better sucess with a 12 hour carb up. The carb up is nessasary for a few reasons. For one, it boosts leptin, and signals your body that it's in a fed state, and your RMR is raised. It also puts you in an anabolic state and fat burning state. You'll still continue burning fat while eating carbs, just make sure to add fat to each meal.

If you're interested in it, I uploaded the slightly older version, PDF format:

Anabolic Diet

I'm definitely open minded to it. It'll be a little bit til I am able to try it, because I just bought my groceries for the week, so I'll be sticking with my above meal plan, with some small modifications for the next little while.

BigDyl · 04-04-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I'm definitely open minded to it. It'll be a little bit til I am able to try it, because I just bought my groceries for the week, so I'll be sticking with my above meal plan, with some small modifications for the next little while.

Right, no point in wasting good food. I'll be around if you have any question about AD.

brazeneye · 03-29-2009, 02:45 PM

Hahaha, I'm back again... at least I come back!

I'll take some pictures tonight as progress,

Burner02 · 03-29-2009, 03:18 PM

wow...EVERYBODY is returning....
hiya Braz!

brazeneye · 03-29-2009, 03:21 PM

Hiya! Man.. I've had this journal for almost 3 years, and I've had some improvements, but not a whole lot has changed, ahaha.

I'm 25 now so I really want to get some of my shit together

Burner02 · 03-29-2009, 03:49 PM

hey!
that answered my next question...how you are now.
What's changed, what hasn't? What do you want to accomplish this year? 5 years, etc?]
I've got a girl-friend...luv her to death...but well...my 15 year old niece is better on top of things than my friend...and she (friend) wonders why guys aren't taking her seriously.
See the hair is longer.

brazeneye · 03-29-2009, 04:22 PM

This year, I really want to have a solid plan that is part of my life.. like taking a shower.. I don't even need to think about it, just do it. I've become less rigid about my food, so I don't think I'll ever be very 'diety' anymore, and be a little nicer with myself. I am not a junk food person, but little things, I would have never let myself eat.. but I do now, and I am happier for it

Don't want to lose that!

I'm wondering.. not that I am a quick fix sort of person, but if I can get my butt in shape for the first week of June, as I'm going on a trip to Vegas w. my girlfriends

Burner02 · 03-29-2009, 04:30 PM

it depends on what you want.
Glad you are back- talk with Built and katt. very awesome and knowledgable.
Looking at your av, you are still quite natually lean. (grrr, baby...VERY grr!)

It depends on what you want. You have two full months before June rolls around.
What do you need to accomplish?

brazeneye · 03-29-2009, 04:45 PM

Haha, thank you!

I really need to work on my legs and just tone up my tummy a bit. My legs are really quite bad compared to the rest of my body, no tone, and that's where I care all my weight

Burner02 · 03-29-2009, 05:44 PM

okie dokie...we seem to still break you of those bad I read cosmo garbage mags type lingo...
remember: there is no 'toning' and you can't just do legs.
whole body, hun- everything will start taking shape.
Yuo're just gonna ahve t otake more bikini pics...you know...for athletic scruitinazation purposes only, of course...

Like I said: Built and Katt can really help give you some insight on a good, whole body routine that will get everything tight and oh...so...yumilicious. (that's my word...I'm getting it copy writed...

remember the basics: cardio alone will only make you a smaller version of you: same shape
resistance training will shape the muscles...and plesae don't say any of that myth crap about lifting weights will make you 'big'.
And your sensible diet will round it off.

Burner02 · 03-29-2009, 05:45 PM

remember the mostistimportant thing: posting latest bikini pics...

brazeneye · 03-29-2009, 05:51 PM

I know I can't specifically target something specifically.. but those are just my problem areas.. I think I got this talk somewhere in this thread, ahaha. I'll start tonight with the cardio and all that fun stuff..

Burner02 · 03-29-2009, 05:58 PM

I'm just here to help! remember the pics.. you have to post your workouts. remember the pics.. be true to them remember the pics.. Stick to them remember the pics.. keep up with your journal.. remember the pics.. and there was sonething else...what what is?

oh yeah...remember the pics