Becoming A Jaw Dropper

Pylon · 12-25-2006, 06:10 PM

Looks like you are getting introduced quickly to the benefit of posting your workout plans (or the danger, depending on how you look at it). But Burner is right, you are missing some important stuff and focusing too much on the things you are doing. Dial down the volume a little, up the poundage some. You'll get there a little faster and be stronger for it. Bottom line, though, is you look like you are willing to put in a ton of work, which is a great start.

Good luck!

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

Hey!
Didn't you say that you are following a tape or something?
Not one to beat around the bushes....that workout is crap.
Too much volume, too many exercises for isolated muscle groups...
I don't even see any chest/back exercises.

You need to target your whole body. Ht the big muscles w/ compound movements 1st. Hit the smaller muscles after. example: Chest then triceps.

As Sean stated...WAY too many reps. Bring them down to the 6 - 12 rep range. (i do one warm up set for 15 reps...but then drop down under 10)

You are already doing a cardio session in the am..no need to do another 'cardio' session w/ the weights.

I know my workout is garbage, but it's all I know right now. I need to firstly invest in some heavier weights (which is my #1 priority once I get back home from the holidays). And then I will start to re-work my routine so that I am doing lower/heavier reps and targeting all the muscle groups I am missing.

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

I posted what my basic workout is in my journal if you want to get an idea.
My rep scheme...I do 'reverse pyramids': I do my heavy work first: low reps, then medium adn then high reps

Example:
Bench Press:
set 1) 315*5 reps
set 2) 315*5 reps
set 3) 225*8 reps
set 4) 135*12 reps

That will hit all muscle fibers. I choose reverse pyramids; hit heavy lifts first, so I am stronger at the begining of the execise and keep the intensity up.

Sounds like an awesome plan.

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

Merry Christmas, B!

Merry Christmas... annnnd Happy Boxing Day!

Avoid the malls.

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pylon

Looks like you are getting introduced quickly to the benefit of posting your workout plans (or the danger, depending on how you look at it). But Burner is right, you are missing some important stuff and focusing too much on the things you are doing. Dial down the volume a little, up the poundage some. You'll get there a little faster and be stronger for it. Bottom line, though, is you look like you are willing to put in a ton of work, which is a great start.

Good luck!

I don't mind the criticism at all, it's how I learn to better myself. And yes, completely willing and I obviously have the time to do it (long workouts

). Thanks for the support

Pylon · 12-26-2006, 01:28 PM

From your comments, it sounds like you are working out at home, right? You can get some great work in with no weights at all doing the right stuff. (I asked for a list from Cowpimp once and it just about killed me.) If you are interested, I can pass them along.

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pylon

From your comments, it sounds like you are working out at home, right? You can get some great work in with no weights at all doing the right stuff. (I asked for a list from Cowpimp once and it just about killed me.) If you are interested, I can pass them along.

Yes, I am working out from home. If you could pasds along that list, that would be awwwesome.

Pylon · 12-26-2006, 02:31 PM

OK, here is the routine he put together for me once upon a time...

prisoner squats
push ups
crunches
dips
reverse hyperextensions
burpees (AKA squat thrusts)

I did a circuit of 15 reps each three times. Brutal.

Prisoner squats are just body weight squats with your hands behind your head. Reverse hypers can be done lying on your stomach on a bench or table, raising your legs.

I have a few other goodies tucked away that may be of use. What kind of setup do you have to work with?

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pylon

OK, here is the routine he put together for me once upon a time...

prisoner squats
push ups
crunches
dips
reverse hyperextensions
burpees (AKA squat thrusts)

I did a circuit of 15 reps each three times. Brutal.

Prisoner squats are just body weight squats with your hands behind your head. Reverse hypers can be done lying on your stomach on a bench or table, raising your legs.

I have a few other goodies tucked away that may be of use. What kind of setup do you have to work with?

I have a stationary bike. and weights (5,8,10,20lbs)

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I know my workout is garbage, but it's all I know right now. I need to firstly invest in some heavier weights (which is my #1 priority once I get back home from the holidays). And then I will start to re-work my routine so that I am doing lower/heavier reps and targeting all the muscle groups I am missing.

stick around kid...we'll show you the ropes..

Hiya B!
Did you read the training 101 in the training section?

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

stick around kid...we'll show you the ropes..

Hiya B!
Did you read the training 101 in the training section?

I'm dissecting it piece by piece.. slowly

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 05:01 PM

There ya go! Just ask the questions..and we'll be happy to help where we can...

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

Avoid the malls.

heh....one of my offices is in a mall...no could do...

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 05:20 PM

I'm just trying to figure out where I can get some inexpensive weight sets

DOMS · 12-26-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I'm just trying to figure out where I can get some inexpensive weight sets

You can try here.

The first item looks great:

300 lbs free weights, 3 benches, 2 body by Jake ab machines, York 2001 weight machine, $300 for all

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMS

You can try here.

The first item looks great:

300 lbs free weights, 3 benches, 2 body by Jake ab machines, York 2001 weight machine, $300 for all

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 05:35 PM

do they have a 'play it again sports' store or something like that where you are?
(A 2nd hand store for fitness equipment)

Pylon · 12-26-2006, 07:01 PM

$300 for all that gear is a heckuva deal. Hope you are on your way over there.

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 07:04 PM

I loved the commercial for that place: All our weights are cleaned and pressed daily.

Pylon · 12-26-2006, 07:14 PM

Haven't seen it, but sounds funny. I like going into the places that actually post the prices for plates with signs like "Iron: $1.09/pound."

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 07:33 PM

must be a local store, then.

Hey B_ Is there a local gym you can go to for little monthly membership fee?

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

must be a local store, then.

Hey B_ Is there a local gym you can go to for little monthly membership fee?

I do at the university I go to.. but I am TERRIFIED to use the weights infront of all the buff boys.

Triple Threat · 12-26-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I do at the university I go to.. but I am TERRIFIED to use the weights infront of all the buff boys.

Somebody cue Devlin.

Pylon · 12-26-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I do at the university I go to.. but I am TERRIFIED to use the weights infront of all the buff boys.

GAH!!

OK, look, no one cares what you look like if you are in the gym. (And if they do, screw 'em.) Go because you want to, go because you need to, go because you can't live with yourself if you don't. But DON'T stay home and limit your workouts because of some frat boys who use the squat cage for curls and who spend more time yakking then lifting.

Sorry...I get a little charged up on that topic...

Bakerboy · 12-26-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brazeneye

I do at the university I go to.. but I am TERRIFIED to use the weights infront of all the buff boys.

Don't sweat it. There is no need to go to gym if you don't feel comfortable with the environment- going to a gym can be scary when you don't know the place or the equipment very well. Even with just the equipment you have right now there are a lot of things you can do- fun stuff too- like bulgarian squats, step ups, singe legged RDL's, reverse fly's, one arm rows, turkish get ups, hindu pushups, dips between chairs, roll outs, chin ups and pullups (a pullup bar is a great investment- so much you can do with one) and as said before burpess etc. You would be amazed at all the (hard and simple) exercises you can do right at home.

here is list of simple things you could get:
Skipping rope
Pullup bar
a flat bench- to do step ups, bulgarian squats, DB bench press, dips etc.
Interchangeable DB's
Foam roller

Have fun

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakerboy

Don't sweat it. There is no need to go to gym if you don't feel comfortable with the environment- going to a gym can be scary when you don't know the place or the equipment very well. Even with just the equipment you have right now there are a lot of things you can do- fun stuff too- like bulgarian squats, step ups, singe legged RDL's, reverse fly's, one arm rows, turkish get ups, hindu pushups, dips between chairs, roll outs, chin ups and pullups (a pullup bar is a great investment- so much you can do with one) and as said before burpess etc. You would be amazed at all the (hard and simple) exercises you can do right at home.

here is list of simple things you could get:
Skipping rope
Pullup bar
a flat bench- to do step ups, bulgarian squats, DB bench press, dips etc.
Interchangeable DB's
Foam roller

Have fun

Yeah, I would feel a lot more comfortable learning and starting off at home before I moved onto the equipment at the gym. Then I can just freely move along it with confidence.

Pylon · 12-26-2006, 09:12 PM

If you are working at home for that reason, it's ok. But don't let anyone intimidate you into avoiding the gym.

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 09:16 PM

Yeah, I would definitely want to work my way up into working out in a gym. But right now I just want to learn proper form and what exercises and such I should start working on.

Burner02 · 12-26-2006, 09:27 PM

do they have any personal trainers at the university gym?
they could help you figure out the correct use of the gym equipment u can use.
Like Py said: Don't let other people deter you from your goals.
I'll be honest: when I started back itothe gym...after my friend I lifted with moved...I was kinda feeling like you are. I was weak, out of shape..and thought ALL eyes were on me.
Guess what? After that 1st workout...it got easier. Nobody will really pay any attention to you unless you are doing something really impressive...or stupid. (I've fallen into the latter catagory a couple times...but I'll save that one for later)

brazeneye · 12-26-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner02

do they have any personal trainers at the university gym?
they could help you figure out the correct use of the gym equipment u can use.
Like Py said: Don't let other people deter you from your goals.
I'll be honest: when I started back itothe gym...after my friend I lifted with moved...I was kinda feeling like you are. I was weak, out of shape..and thought ALL eyes were on me.
Guess what? After that 1st workout...it got easier. Nobody will really pay any attention to you unless you are doing something really impressive...or stupid. (I've fallen into the latter catagory a couple times...but I'll save that one for later)

Yeah once I get my routine together and worked out, I will. Especially since I like to go to the gym at 6AM, it kinda keeps me safe from watching eyes (eventhough I shouldn't care about them).

I really should invest in some sessions with a personal trainer though.. although I like to figure out things on my own and be the source of my own success.

12-25-2006, 06:10 PM	#31
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	Looks like you are getting introduced quickly to the benefit of posting your workout plans (or the danger, depending on how you look at it). But Burner is right, you are missing some important stuff and focusing too much on the things you are doing. Dial down the volume a little, up the poundage some. You'll get there a little faster and be stronger for it. Bottom line, though, is you look like you are willing to put in a ton of work, which is a great start. Good luck! "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-26-2006, 01:28 PM	#36
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	From your comments, it sounds like you are working out at home, right? You can get some great work in with no weights at all doing the right stuff. (I asked for a list from Cowpimp once and it just about killed me.) If you are interested, I can pass them along. "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-26-2006, 02:31 PM	#38
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	OK, here is the routine he put together for me once upon a time... prisoner squats push ups crunches dips reverse hyperextensions burpees (AKA squat thrusts) I did a circuit of 15 reps each three times. Brutal. Prisoner squats are just body weight squats with your hands behind your head. Reverse hypers can be done lying on your stomach on a bench or table, raising your legs. I have a few other goodies tucked away that may be of use. What kind of setup do you have to work with? "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-26-2006, 05:01 PM	#42
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,648	There ya go! Just ask the questions..and we'll be happy to help where we can... Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

12-26-2006, 05:20 PM	#44
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	I'm just trying to figure out where I can get some inexpensive weight sets Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-26-2006, 05:35 PM	#47
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,648	do they have a 'play it again sports' store or something like that where you are? (A 2nd hand store for fitness equipment) Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

12-26-2006, 07:01 PM	#48
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	$300 for all that gear is a heckuva deal. Hope you are on your way over there. "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-26-2006, 07:04 PM	#49
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,648	I loved the commercial for that place: All our weights are cleaned and pressed daily. Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

12-26-2006, 07:14 PM	#50
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	Haven't seen it, but sounds funny. I like going into the places that actually post the prices for plates with signs like "Iron: $1.09/pound." "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-26-2006, 07:33 PM	#51
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,648	must be a local store, then. Hey B_ Is there a local gym you can go to for little monthly membership fee? Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

12-26-2006, 09:12 PM	#57
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	If you are working at home for that reason, it's ok. But don't let anyone intimidate you into avoiding the gym. "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-26-2006, 09:16 PM	#58
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Yeah, I would definitely want to work my way up into working out in a gym. But right now I just want to learn proper form and what exercises and such I should start working on. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-26-2006, 09:27 PM	#59
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,648	do they have any personal trainers at the university gym? they could help you figure out the correct use of the gym equipment u can use. Like Py said: Don't let other people deter you from your goals. I'll be honest: when I started back itothe gym...after my friend I lifted with moved...I was kinda feeling like you are. I was weak, out of shape..and thought ALL eyes were on me. Guess what? After that 1st workout...it got easier. Nobody will really pay any attention to you unless you are doing something really impressive...or stupid. (I've fallen into the latter catagory a couple times...but I'll save that one for later) Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

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