Becoming A Jaw Dropper

naturaltan · 12-26-2006, 11:25 PM

Welcome Brazen ... nice to see another Canadian on here.

Pylon · 12-27-2006, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brazeneye

I really should invest in some sessions with a personal trainer though.. although I like to figure out things on my own and be the source of my own success.

Nothing at all wrong with having a trainer help get you up to speed. Just don't be one of those people who follow their instructions, but never learn. If you use the time to gather info and get comfortable, it can be a big help.

brazeneye · 12-27-2006, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naturaltan

Welcome Brazen ... nice to see another Canadian on here.

Thanks, eh.

**P-funk** · 12-27-2006, 10:02 AM

It depends on what you need a trainer for and whether or not said trainer can provide you with the information you seek (most are not very good; especially at the big chain gyms).

If you need program design and set up, then look no further than IM.

If you need someone to teach you proper technique on exercises, you should find a smart trainer that can teach lifts properly.

brazeneye · 12-27-2006, 04:02 PM

So far IM has been a wealth of information, and I don't think I would need to look for much elsewhere.

brazeneye · 12-29-2006, 11:30 AM

Now I am trying to devise a program for my endomorph-body type.

Seanp156 · 12-29-2006, 07:15 PM

Not that you should use this to the letter, but here's what I used to get started when I first got into things a little over 2 years ago:

Mon: Legs

Squats 3 x 8-10
Leg Press 3 x 8-10
Calf Raise 3 x 8-10
SL Deadlifts w/ DB’s 3 x 8-10
Leg Curls 1 x 8-10

Wed: Chest / Shoulders

DB bench press 3 x 8-10
Dips 3 x 8-10
Millitary Press 3 x 8-10
Upright rows 2 x 8-10
Close Grip Bench Press 2 x 8-10

Fri: Back

Pull Ups: 3 x 6
Deadlift: 3 x 8-10
DB Row: 2 x 8-10
DB Shrugs: 2 x 8-10
Barbell Curls: 2 x 8-10

cardio could be thrown in 2-3 times a week or so.

Bakerboy · 12-29-2006, 07:47 PM

You can't go wrong with a full-body routine three times a week sticking to the basics. Squats, step ups, lunges, deadlifts, overhead press, bend rows, RDL's, push ups or bench press, chin ups/ pull ups. From the sounds of it you know a bit about the importance of stabilization exercises like panks- boats- etc.- yoga and pilate movements. If you start doing some of the big compound movements, especially if you do them uni-laterally you won't have to do all that ab work you have been doing. Abs are almost all diet anyway.
Just read the stickies and put something up then the mods can help you tweak it...

Stewart14 · 12-29-2006, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Not that you should use this to the letter, but here's what I used to get started when I first got into things a little over 2 years ago:

Mon: Legs

Squats 3 x 8-10
Leg Press 3 x 8-10
Calf Raise 3 x 8-10
SL Deadlifts w/ DB’s 3 x 8-10
Leg Curls 1 x 8-10

Wed: Chest / Shoulders

DB bench press 3 x 8-10
Dips 3 x 8-10
Millitary Press 3 x 8-10
Upright rows 2 x 8-10
Close Grip Bench Press 2 x 8-10

Fri: Back

Pull Ups: 3 x 6
Deadlift: 3 x 8-10
DB Row: 2 x 8-10
DB Shrugs: 2 x 8-10
Barbell Curls: 2 x 8-10

cardio could be thrown in 2-3 times a week or so.

please dont take this the wrong way, but this routine is definitely not a great routine, and for a relative beginner trying to lose some weight and get more muscle tone, there are a lot better alternatives, especially the 3 day full body is a real good one.

Seanp156 · 12-29-2006, 08:06 PM

I personally don't see what's wrong with it

. That's how I first began and it was fine. I think a 3 day full body routine would be more difficult for a beginner than that.

Stewart14 · 12-29-2006, 08:24 PM

there is nothing "wrong" with it, I just don't think it's optimal for her goals that all....

Bakerboy · 12-29-2006, 09:36 PM

The funny thing is brazeneye hasn't even started to train yet and look at all the hits she has got, hahaha. What's going to happen when she actually starts to post on a regular basis. Let's let her do some of the work...

Seanp156 · 12-29-2006, 09:38 PM

Everyone, silence until a workout is posted.

brazeneye · 12-29-2006, 09:42 PM

Hahaha. Two more days to go.. then it's regular posting of pictures, diet and workouts.

It'll be a good one.

brazeneye · 12-29-2006, 10:57 PM

Would it be a horrible idea for me to start off my January by doing a very low carb diet (about 2 weeks) to stare off my carb/sugar cravings before reintroducing my clean diet back in?

And when I say low carb, I don't mean to say 'butter, bacon and cheese'.. I mean, good quality lean proteins (turkey, chicken, egg whites.. etc), but keeping a low carb count coming purely from vegetables.

Ie: Meal plan like this:

Breakfast: (7:00 AM)
4 slices turkey bacon
2 hard boiled eggs
Calories: 271 / Fat: 19g - 63% / Carbs: 5g - 3% / Protein: 22g - 34%

Lunch: (12:00 PM)
1 large canned wild salmon (waterpacked)
1 cup chopped cucumbers
1/2 tomato
3 tsp balsmaic vinegar
Calories: 309 / Fat: 16g - 46% / Carbs: 13g - 15% / Protein: 31g - 40%

Snack: (3:00 PM)
3 oz chicken breast
1 tbls flax seed oil
Calories: 258 / Fat: 17g - 58% / Carbs: 0g - 0% / Protein: 26g - 43%

Dinner: (6:00 PM)
1 can waterpack tuna
4 cherry tomatoes
3 small olives
1 tbsp. olive oil
1/2 clove garlic
2 cups fresh broccoli
Calories: 331 / Fat: 14g - 37% / Carbs: 6g - 7% / Protein: 44g - 56%

Post Workout: (9:30 PM)
8oz water
1 scoop Whey Gourmet Protein Powder
1 tablespoon heavy whipping cream
1 tablespoon natural peanut butter
Calories: 236 / Fat: 13g - 47% / Carbs: 5g - 9% / Protein: 27g - 45%

Total Calories: 1405 / Fat: 78g - 50% / Carbs: 27g - 7% / Protein: 150g - 44%

Once I finished putting this together I realized I was eating a lot of fat.. but it really keeps me full, and I love working off of a low-carbohydrate based diet. I would like to have a mid-morning snack, and I was thinking of doing the post-workout meal as a repeat, but that would bring my daily fat grams to 97g

(calories to about 1640's) .... I just love the fat

fufu · 12-29-2006, 11:14 PM

I don't see a need to have the carbs low...a balanaced diet is superior for general health IMO.

brazeneye · 12-29-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fufu

I don't see a need to have the carbs low...a balanaced diet is superior for general health IMO.

I know it's superior, but I have really horrible sugar cravings right now because of all the indulging I did over the holidays. I will re-introduce my clean eating diet, but I wanted to do this to kill the cravings.

fufu · 12-29-2006, 11:19 PM

Mmm, ok, I see what you are doing.

brazeneye · 12-29-2006, 11:22 PM

I would follow it tops of 2 weeks then start introducing more carbs.

**IainDaniel** · 12-30-2006, 01:22 AM

Too many shitty fats.

brazeneye · 12-30-2006, 12:58 PM

Argh Argh Argh.. I need to do more tinkering. I am trying to hard to make everything 'perfect' once I start. I don't want this to be my downfall.

brazeneye · 12-31-2006, 01:52 PM

Yeah! Finally home.

I am a bit terrified to take pictures and weigh myself tomorrow morning, but I need somewhere to start from!

Here is my diet for next week:
Breakfast:
1/2 cup egg whites
1/2 cup oats
Calories: 242 / Fat: 3g - 11% / Carbs: 30g / Protein: 18g

Mid-morning Snack:
1/2 cup non-fat cottage cheese
4 oz green apple
Calories: 157 / Fat: 1g - 4% / Carbs: 23 g / Protein: 15h

Lunch:
1 can waterpacked wild salmon
2 cups lettuce
3 oz sweet potato
Calories: 426 / Fat: 16g - 34% / Carbs: 22g - 21% / Protein: 46g - 45%

Mid-afternoon:
1 scoop PVL Whey Gourmet Protein Powder
2 tbls Silk Soy Creamer
Calories: 150 / Fat: 4g - 24% / Carbs: 6g - 13% / Protein: 21g - 56%

Dinner:
5 oz turkey breast
1 cup broccoli
1 cup green beans
2 tbls fat free ranch dressing
Calories: 323 / Fat: 2g - 5% / Carbs: 29g - 34% / Protei: 49g - 61%

Evening:
1 scoop PVL Whey Gourmet Protein Powder
2 tbls Silk Soy Creamer
Calories: 150 / Fat: 4g - 24 % / Carbs: 6g - 13% / Protein: 21g - 56%

Total Calories: 1448 / Fat: 30g - 19% / Carbs: 117g - 29% / Protein: 170g - 48%

brazeneye · 12-31-2006, 03:27 PM

No picture updates for another month

I have at least 30 pounds to lose, it's almost embarrassing.

REMEMBER ME AS I WAS.

Pylon · 12-31-2006, 05:07 PM

Happy New Year, Braz. Don't worry about being too perfect. Like the man said, 90% of success is just showing up.

30 lbs, huh? What's the target date? I'm looking to drop 50 by July 1. Race you to the end!

brazeneye · 12-31-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pylon

Happy New Year, Braz. Don't worry about being too perfect. Like the man said, 90% of success is just showing up.

30 lbs, huh? What's the target date? I'm looking to drop 50 by July 1. Race you to the end!

Yeah, I am guessing I am 145-150 (too proud to weigh myself right now), and I want to be 120-125 probaby by May.

Then I can reallllly start training once I get this fluffy weight gone and have built up a good muscle base, cause I'd love to do some competitions.. but I am very very very far away from that goal right now

Happy New Year!

BigDyl · 12-31-2006, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brazeneye

Yeah! Finally home.

I am a bit terrified to take pictures and weigh myself tomorrow morning, but I need somewhere to start from!

Here is my diet for next week:
Breakfast:
1/2 cup egg whites
1/2 cup oats
Calories: 242 / Fat: 3g - 11% / Carbs: 30g / Protein: 18g

Mid-morning Snack:
1/2 cup non-fat cottage cheese
4 oz green apple
Calories: 157 / Fat: 1g - 4% / Carbs: 23 g / Protein: 15h

Lunch:
1 can waterpacked wild salmon
2 cups lettuce
3 oz sweet potato
Calories: 426 / Fat: 16g - 34% / Carbs: 22g - 21% / Protein: 46g - 45%

Mid-afternoon:
1 scoop PVL Whey Gourmet Protein Powder
2 tbls Silk Soy Creamer
Calories: 150 / Fat: 4g - 24% / Carbs: 6g - 13% / Protein: 21g - 56%

Dinner:
5 oz turkey breast
1 cup broccoli
1 cup green beans
2 tbls fat free ranch dressing
Calories: 323 / Fat: 2g - 5% / Carbs: 29g - 34% / Protei: 49g - 61%

Evening:
1 scoop PVL Whey Gourmet Protein Powder
2 tbls Silk Soy Creamer
Calories: 150 / Fat: 4g - 24 % / Carbs: 6g - 13% / Protein: 21g - 56%

Total Calories: 1448 / Fat: 30g - 19% / Carbs: 117g - 29% / Protein: 170g - 48%

Wow... that diet is perfect.

brazeneye · 12-31-2006, 10:46 PM

Yeaaah, I did good

I am gonna be eating that plan for a week.. then I switch it up weekly. It makes it easier on my fridge (I only have a shelf to myself) and have very limited space (Dorm-room living).

Double D · 12-31-2006, 11:13 PM

Maybe I am not that bright whenever it comes to diet, but there isnt enough good fat in there. Need to add some almonds or some kind of nut, along with some fish oil. But thats just my opinion. I am not a diet expert, but its what I notice alot of people, including myself do. Ask Ian hes good with this.

fufu · 12-31-2006, 11:32 PM

I agree, add a few fish oils caps in some of thos meals.

brazeneye · 12-31-2006, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Maybe I am not that bright whenever it comes to diet, but there isnt enough good fat in there. Need to add some almonds or some kind of nut, along with some fish oil. But thats just my opinion. I am not a diet expert, but its what I notice alot of people, including myself do. Ask Ian hes good with this.

I take 2 tsp of Fish Oil with every main meal.. But I don't include it in my food diet, because I don't consider it food, I think of it as a supplement.

I am also going to start taking my vitamins (finally):
CLA: 1000mg (one capsule) three times a day
ALA: 500mg (two capsules) once a day
CoQ10: 120mg once a day
GLA: 1000mg (one capsule) once a day
Fish Oil: 2 tsp (3000mg) three times a day
Chromium polynicotinate: 200mcg (one tablet) once a day

12-26-2006, 11:25 PM	#61
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,948 Photos: 7	Welcome Brazen ... nice to see another Canadian on here. just kick'in it in the ole Charger

12-27-2006, 10:02 AM	#64
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12-27-2006, 04:02 PM	#65
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	So far IM has been a wealth of information, and I don't think I would need to look for much elsewhere. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-29-2006, 11:30 AM	#66
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Now I am trying to devise a program for my endomorph-body type. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-29-2006, 07:15 PM	#67
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	Not that you should use this to the letter, but here's what I used to get started when I first got into things a little over 2 years ago: Mon: Legs Squats 3 x 8-10 Leg Press 3 x 8-10 Calf Raise 3 x 8-10 SL Deadlifts w/ DB’s 3 x 8-10 Leg Curls 1 x 8-10 Wed: Chest / Shoulders DB bench press 3 x 8-10 Dips 3 x 8-10 Millitary Press 3 x 8-10 Upright rows 2 x 8-10 Close Grip Bench Press 2 x 8-10 Fri: Back Pull Ups: 3 x 6 Deadlift: 3 x 8-10 DB Row: 2 x 8-10 DB Shrugs: 2 x 8-10 Barbell Curls: 2 x 8-10 cardio could be thrown in 2-3 times a week or so. My Journal

12-29-2006, 07:47 PM	#68
Bakerboy cat burglar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the city of champions Posts: 4,146 Photos: 3	You can't go wrong with a full-body routine three times a week sticking to the basics. Squats, step ups, lunges, deadlifts, overhead press, bend rows, RDL's, push ups or bench press, chin ups/ pull ups. From the sounds of it you know a bit about the importance of stabilization exercises like panks- boats- etc.- yoga and pilate movements. If you start doing some of the big compound movements, especially if you do them uni-laterally you won't have to do all that ab work you have been doing. Abs are almost all diet anyway. Just read the stickies and put something up then the mods can help you tweak it... No strength within, no respect without - Kasmiri Proverb

12-29-2006, 08:06 PM	#70
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	I personally don't see what's wrong with it . That's how I first began and it was fine. I think a 3 day full body routine would be more difficult for a beginner than that. My Journal

12-29-2006, 08:24 PM	#71
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,606 Photos: 2	there is nothing "wrong" with it, I just don't think it's optimal for her goals that all.... http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

12-29-2006, 09:36 PM	#72
Bakerboy cat burglar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the city of champions Posts: 4,146 Photos: 3	The funny thing is brazeneye hasn't even started to train yet and look at all the hits she has got, hahaha. What's going to happen when she actually starts to post on a regular basis. Let's let her do some of the work... No strength within, no respect without - Kasmiri Proverb

12-29-2006, 09:38 PM	#73
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,512 Photos: 3	Everyone, silence until a workout is posted. My Journal

12-29-2006, 09:42 PM	#74
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Hahaha. Two more days to go.. then it's regular posting of pictures, diet and workouts. It'll be a good one. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-29-2006, 10:57 PM	#75
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Would it be a horrible idea for me to start off my January by doing a very low carb diet (about 2 weeks) to stare off my carb/sugar cravings before reintroducing my clean diet back in? And when I say low carb, I don't mean to say 'butter, bacon and cheese'.. I mean, good quality lean proteins (turkey, chicken, egg whites.. etc), but keeping a low carb count coming purely from vegetables. Ie: Meal plan like this: Breakfast: (7:00 AM) 4 slices turkey bacon 2 hard boiled eggs Calories: 271 / Fat: 19g - 63% / Carbs: 5g - 3% / Protein: 22g - 34% Lunch: (12:00 PM) 1 large canned wild salmon (waterpacked) 1 cup chopped cucumbers 1/2 tomato 3 tsp balsmaic vinegar Calories: 309 / Fat: 16g - 46% / Carbs: 13g - 15% / Protein: 31g - 40% Snack: (3:00 PM) 3 oz chicken breast 1 tbls flax seed oil Calories: 258 / Fat: 17g - 58% / Carbs: 0g - 0% / Protein: 26g - 43% Dinner: (6:00 PM) 1 can waterpack tuna 4 cherry tomatoes 3 small olives 1 tbsp. olive oil 1/2 clove garlic 2 cups fresh broccoli Calories: 331 / Fat: 14g - 37% / Carbs: 6g - 7% / Protein: 44g - 56% Post Workout: (9:30 PM) 8oz water 1 scoop Whey Gourmet Protein Powder 1 tablespoon heavy whipping cream 1 tablespoon natural peanut butter Calories: 236 / Fat: 13g - 47% / Carbs: 5g - 9% / Protein: 27g - 45% Total Calories: 1405 / Fat: 78g - 50% / Carbs: 27g - 7% / Protein: 150g - 44% Once I finished putting this together I realized I was eating a lot of fat.. but it really keeps me full, and I love working off of a low-carbohydrate based diet. I would like to have a mid-morning snack, and I was thinking of doing the post-workout meal as a repeat, but that would bring my daily fat grams to 97g (calories to about 1640's) .... I just love the fat Jaw Dropper In Progress Last edited by brazeneye : 12-29-2006 at 11:14 PM.

12-29-2006, 11:14 PM	#76
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	I don't see a need to have the carbs low...a balanaced diet is superior for general health IMO. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

12-29-2006, 11:19 PM	#78
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	Mmm, ok, I see what you are doing. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

12-29-2006, 11:22 PM	#79
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	I would follow it tops of 2 weeks then start introducing more carbs. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-30-2006, 01:22 AM	#80
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Too many shitty fats. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

12-30-2006, 12:58 PM	#81
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Argh Argh Argh.. I need to do more tinkering. I am trying to hard to make everything 'perfect' once I start. I don't want this to be my downfall. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-31-2006, 01:52 PM	#82
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Yeah! Finally home. I am a bit terrified to take pictures and weigh myself tomorrow morning, but I need somewhere to start from! Here is my diet for next week: Breakfast: 1/2 cup egg whites 1/2 cup oats Calories: 242 / Fat: 3g - 11% / Carbs: 30g / Protein: 18g Mid-morning Snack: 1/2 cup non-fat cottage cheese 4 oz green apple Calories: 157 / Fat: 1g - 4% / Carbs: 23 g / Protein: 15h Lunch: 1 can waterpacked wild salmon 2 cups lettuce 3 oz sweet potato Calories: 426 / Fat: 16g - 34% / Carbs: 22g - 21% / Protein: 46g - 45% Mid-afternoon: 1 scoop PVL Whey Gourmet Protein Powder 2 tbls Silk Soy Creamer Calories: 150 / Fat: 4g - 24% / Carbs: 6g - 13% / Protein: 21g - 56% Dinner: 5 oz turkey breast 1 cup broccoli 1 cup green beans 2 tbls fat free ranch dressing Calories: 323 / Fat: 2g - 5% / Carbs: 29g - 34% / Protei: 49g - 61% Evening: 1 scoop PVL Whey Gourmet Protein Powder 2 tbls Silk Soy Creamer Calories: 150 / Fat: 4g - 24 % / Carbs: 6g - 13% / Protein: 21g - 56% Total Calories: 1448 / Fat: 30g - 19% / Carbs: 117g - 29% / Protein: 170g - 48% Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-31-2006, 03:27 PM	#83
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	No picture updates for another month I have at least 30 pounds to lose, it's almost embarrassing. REMEMBER ME AS I WAS. Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-31-2006, 05:07 PM	#84
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bottom of the hill Posts: 6,865 Photos: 1	Happy New Year, Braz. Don't worry about being too perfect. Like the man said, 90% of success is just showing up. 30 lbs, huh? What's the target date? I'm looking to drop 50 by July 1. Race you to the end! "The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority." - R. W. Sockman

12-31-2006, 10:46 PM	#87
brazeneye //Miss World\\ Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 386 Photos: 4	Yeaaah, I did good I am gonna be eating that plan for a week.. then I switch it up weekly. It makes it easier on my fridge (I only have a shelf to myself) and have very limited space (Dorm-room living). Jaw Dropper In Progress

12-31-2006, 11:13 PM	#88
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	Maybe I am not that bright whenever it comes to diet, but there isnt enough good fat in there. Need to add some almonds or some kind of nut, along with some fish oil. But thats just my opinion. I am not a diet expert, but its what I notice alot of people, including myself do. Ask Ian hes good with this.

12-31-2006, 11:32 PM	#89
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,731 Photos: 8	I agree, add a few fish oils caps in some of thos meals. fufu's 1337 Journal Your diet will set you free.

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