About that time II (training)

Pylon · 12-28-2006, 05:28 PM

Canned veggies have a lot of sodium, so they could stand a rinse, but draining them should help. I get the frozen stuff. Poke a few holes, toss the whole bag in for 4 or 5 min, ready to go!

Double D · 12-28-2006, 05:31 PM

Yeah I do get me some frozen broccoli now and then. I like it ok. Its not the best, but its not bad either. Along with that I like cauliflower and brussel sprouts as well. I will have to make it to the store tommorow and get this taken care of. Krogers here I come. I am going to raid the frozen section!

Pylon · 12-28-2006, 05:32 PM

I usually stick with either spinach or the normandy mix (broc, caul, carrots)

Double D · 12-28-2006, 05:33 PM

I dislike spinach, but I love the other one of your choices.

Pylon · 12-28-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I dislike spinach, but I love the other one of your choices.

Just the frozen or fresh too?

Oh, and I forgot that green beans get time in the rotation on occasion as well.

Double D · 12-28-2006, 05:37 PM

Spinach is general.

I like green beans from the can, but I try to leave those out since they are out of the can. Frozen ones do suck the big one!

AKIRA · 12-28-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D;1531458[B

Akira[/b]The sequels do suck sometimes, but not this one! Hell the Rocky sequels didnt suck. And rest pauses are going to failure stopping for 15 deep breaths and going again until I get 11-15.

Thats what I though they were. 11-15 after failure? Whats the rep scheme on the way to failure? Same thing?

Double D · 12-28-2006, 05:39 PM

Your shooting for a rep arpund 7 to 8 on your first failure. Then try for 3-4 more then probably 1-2 more. So its kinda 3 sets wrapped into 1.

Brutus_G · 12-28-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

I dont think canned greans are good for ya

I get canned green beans, PACE salsa with mushrooms!!!! sugar free and protects your prostrate!, romaine lettuce with sugar free salad dressing(splenda added), mushrooms bell peppers and onions go good together steam fast and taste good raw.

Double D · 12-28-2006, 05:53 PM

My taste buds dont want me to be healthy. I hate onions, mushrooms, and most peppers.

Pylon · 12-28-2006, 05:54 PM

It's ok to hate onions. They're the devil's weed...

Double D · 12-28-2006, 05:54 PM

This is true!

Brutus_G · 12-28-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pylon

It's ok to hate onions. They're the devil's weed...

He smokes em?

Brutus_G · 12-28-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

My taste buds dont want me to be healthy. I hate onions, mushrooms, and most peppers.

You must like salsa

AKIRA · 12-28-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Your shooting for a rep arpund 7 to 8 on your first failure. Then try for 3-4 more then probably 1-2 more. So its kinda 3 sets wrapped into 1.

Ohhh now I see what you mean. Hmm. Not sure if I like the idea...

Double D · 12-28-2006, 06:07 PM

Brutus I dont really care for salsa. Just not my thing.

Akira I dont know if I like it either, but hell I am open for new things. I am goin to give it a try. Just watch my progress and then you can tell from that whether its worth a shit or not.

AKIRA · 12-28-2006, 06:13 PM

The first thing I thought of was chance of overtraining.

Double D · 12-28-2006, 06:16 PM

I hear that alot about DC. Its only 3 days a week along with it being more like 3 sets per exercise. Yes there is failure, but I am kinda up in the air, but I will give it a few weeks and see.

AKIRA · 12-28-2006, 06:20 PM

3 sets of failures?

Well, you never know until you try and if youre bored with your current program, you better check it out then.

Double D · 12-28-2006, 06:21 PM

Thats the first thing that I thought. 3 sets to failure. Sure does seem like alot.

Double D · 12-28-2006, 06:23 PM

Just doesnt seem like it takes to long for you guys to fill up my journals.

Brutus_G · 12-28-2006, 06:31 PM

When i did DC i gained muscle pretty good. I just always was mentally fatigued and felt over trained.

Double D · 12-28-2006, 06:35 PM

No kidding. Thats is pretty nuts. You felt overtrained, but yet you still made good gains. That is odd.

Stewart20 · 12-28-2006, 06:36 PM

they say the program might border on overtraining, come to think of it, you want to cut right? you might have to be especially careful then with the rest pausing.

I am of the opinion that if you did one all out set per exercise, you will do just fine on your cut. just make sure you keep the sets heavy, like no more than 8 reps per set. The key to a successful cut is to keep the weights heavy, or as heavy as you can if you are feeling weaker.

the rest pausing in effect is really still only one set...i mean, usually you are lucky if you get half the reps of the first set, and half of that on the second rest pause. so while you can consider it 3 sets to failure, it really only is one. If you get 8 reps on the first "set", you would be very lucky to hit 4 on the first rest pause, then you would be lucky if you got 2 on the last. you are still so tired from the lack of rest, that while you "fail", it's not the same as doing a set to failure, resting 2 minutes, doing a set to failure, resting 2 minutes and doing a set to failure.

just keep your protein really high, and you should be alright

Double D · 12-28-2006, 06:45 PM

If I was to cut out the rp's what kind of sets and reps would you go with Stew?

Stewart20 · 12-28-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

If I was to cut out the rp's what kind of sets and reps would you go with Stew?

one all out set, 6-8 reps, on all the big compounds. think quality, not quantity....

I know you have done 375 or so, I forget for a bunch of reps on the squat....after doing a bunch of other squatting sets. now, think about warming up and doing ONE working set with 405 on the bar for 5 or 6 reps. Now don't you think that would be enough for squats? And don't worry, you hit it AGAIN only 4 or 5 days later! It is enough, trust me

Double D · 12-28-2006, 07:21 PM

Then trust you is what I will do. So should I ramp up to the weight or just get ready and loose and start the one set?

Double D · 12-28-2006, 07:53 PM

Last meal was

chicken breast (very large one, and I like large breasts)
2 cups of yogurt
small apple
fish oil

12-28-2006, 05:28 PM	#31
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12-28-2006, 05:31 PM	#32
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Yeah I do get me some frozen broccoli now and then. I like it ok. Its not the best, but its not bad either. Along with that I like cauliflower and brussel sprouts as well. I will have to make it to the store tommorow and get this taken care of. Krogers here I come. I am going to raid the frozen section!
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12-28-2006, 05:32 PM	#33
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Missing...presumed having a good time Posts: 6,319 Photos: 3	I usually stick with either spinach or the normandy mix (broc, caul, carrots)
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12-28-2006, 05:33 PM	#34
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	I dislike spinach, but I love the other one of your choices.
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12-28-2006, 05:37 PM	#36
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Spinach is general. I like green beans from the can, but I try to leave those out since they are out of the can. Frozen ones do suck the big one!
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12-28-2006, 05:39 PM	#38
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Your shooting for a rep arpund 7 to 8 on your first failure. Then try for 3-4 more then probably 1-2 more. So its kinda 3 sets wrapped into 1.
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12-28-2006, 05:53 PM	#40
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	My taste buds dont want me to be healthy. I hate onions, mushrooms, and most peppers.
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12-28-2006, 05:54 PM	#41
Pylon Squishy Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Missing...presumed having a good time Posts: 6,319 Photos: 3	It's ok to hate onions. They're the devil's weed...
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12-28-2006, 06:07 PM	#46
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Brutus I dont really care for salsa. Just not my thing. Akira I dont know if I like it either, but hell I am open for new things. I am goin to give it a try. Just watch my progress and then you can tell from that whether its worth a shit or not.
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12-28-2006, 06:13 PM	#47
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,435 Photos: 3	The first thing I thought of was chance of overtraining.
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12-28-2006, 06:16 PM	#48
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	I hear that alot about DC. Its only 3 days a week along with it being more like 3 sets per exercise. Yes there is failure, but I am kinda up in the air, but I will give it a few weeks and see.
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12-28-2006, 06:20 PM	#49
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,435 Photos: 3	3 sets of failures? Well, you never know until you try and if youre bored with your current program, you better check it out then.
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12-28-2006, 06:21 PM	#50
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Thats the first thing that I thought. 3 sets to failure. Sure does seem like alot.
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12-28-2006, 06:23 PM	#51
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Just doesnt seem like it takes to long for you guys to fill up my journals.
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12-28-2006, 06:31 PM	#52
Brutus_G Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,865 Photos: 24	When i did DC i gained muscle pretty good. I just always was mentally fatigued and felt over trained.
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12-28-2006, 06:35 PM	#53
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	No kidding. Thats is pretty nuts. You felt overtrained, but yet you still made good gains. That is odd.
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12-28-2006, 06:36 PM	#54
Stewart20 I have a headache Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: All you can eat Chinese Buffet Posts: 2,719 Photos: 2	they say the program might border on overtraining, come to think of it, you want to cut right? you might have to be especially careful then with the rest pausing. I am of the opinion that if you did one all out set per exercise, you will do just fine on your cut. just make sure you keep the sets heavy, like no more than 8 reps per set. The key to a successful cut is to keep the weights heavy, or as heavy as you can if you are feeling weaker. the rest pausing in effect is really still only one set...i mean, usually you are lucky if you get half the reps of the first set, and half of that on the second rest pause. so while you can consider it 3 sets to failure, it really only is one. If you get 8 reps on the first "set", you would be very lucky to hit 4 on the first rest pause, then you would be lucky if you got 2 on the last. you are still so tired from the lack of rest, that while you "fail", it's not the same as doing a set to failure, resting 2 minutes, doing a set to failure, resting 2 minutes and doing a set to failure. just keep your protein really high, and you should be alright
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12-28-2006, 06:45 PM	#55
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	If I was to cut out the rp's what kind of sets and reps would you go with Stew?
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12-28-2006, 07:21 PM	#57
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Then trust you is what I will do. So should I ramp up to the weight or just get ready and loose and start the one set?
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12-28-2006, 07:53 PM	#58
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 9,850	Last meal was chicken breast (very large one, and I like large breasts) 2 cups of yogurt small apple fish oil
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