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Old 01-03-2007, 08:15 AM   #1
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How did the Cat get so Fat?

Since it's the new year, and I'm at a new gym, I figure it's time once again to start a new journal with new goals. I've been either sick, injured, or without a gym for the better part of the past 3 months so finally getting back to work will be nice. Amidst all the confusion I lost sight a few times of what my goals were, so this will be my clean start.

My main goal right now is to get down to a "fighting weight" without losing a lot of strength (obviously.) I will be cutting with aprox. 2500 calories a day for as long as I need to. Eventually I would like to weigh in the 180 lbs ballpark but thats months away. I think I will give the Westside template a go, although I'll modify it a bit, I will use those ideas and principles for my routine. Cardio will be done on the weekends and maybe on the mornings of my DE days. Weekend sessions will be either basketball, racquetball and/or sprints. Weekdays I will either walk on the treadmill or the eliptical at the gym.

My first few workouts will be full body, just to get back "in the groove." Monday will begin the new program.

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Old 01-03-2007, 08:17 AM   #2
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Good luck. What is your time frame for losing the weight?



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Good luck. What is your time frame for losing the weight?
Thanks. I'd like to be just under 190 by the time March comes so I'm in no hurry at all. I figure 2500 cals to be a little on the low side but I'm a meso/endo so I'm sure I'll be OK.



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Old 01-03-2007, 08:39 AM   #4
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Have you tried Melting Point Before?



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So you DID join Nautilus?



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Have you tried Melting Point Before?
I have not, and I haven't started taking it yet. Any advice?



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So you DID join Nautilus?
I didn't but I'm gonna today. It makes too much sense, it's so close.



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"fighting weight"??? Are you stepping in the ring any time soon?



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"fighting weight"??? Are you stepping in the ring any time soon?


Actually, once I get down to the weight I wanna be at, I'll probably find time to start taking some BJJ classes. I have no desire to be kicked or punched though.



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If that stands for Brazilian Jui Jitsu, sweet. I'm thinking of doing the same type of thing. I just need to actually set a goal so I get it accomplished within a decent time frame.

So will you be doing Westside-style templates with the idea of retaining strength and losing BW, or are you going for absolute strength gains and BW loss? Either way, good luck.



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Old 01-03-2007, 02:59 PM   #11
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What are your plans for a diet?
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I have not, and I haven't started taking it yet. Any advice?
For whatever reason I never got any cramping on it, but be prepared for it. I would start at the minimum dose 6caps. It will take a few weeks to begin to notice anything. For Cramps some potassium and magnesium supps would help. You might have some water retention.



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If that stands for Brazilian Jui Jitsu, sweet. I'm thinking of doing the same type of thing. I just need to actually set a goal so I get it accomplished within a decent time frame.

So will you be doing Westside-style templates with the idea of retaining strength and losing BW, or are you going for absolute strength gains and BW loss? Either way, good luck.
Yeah, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. We actually have an American Top Team here in town and my friends wife takes kickboxing lessons from TUF 4 member Din Thomas. I figure after I shed some of this fat and condition myself a little better I'll get in there and show them a thing or two.

I'm full prepared not to get much stronger (or stronger at all) being in a caloric deficit. I just enjoy the way the program is set up and I'm always interested in trying new things.

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It's clean but not perfect. I'll probably not post it but like I said before I'll be shooting for the 2500 calorie range which will probably end up in the 2800's by the end of most days which is still a good number.

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For whatever reason I never got any cramping on it, but be prepared for it. I would start at the minimum dose 6caps. It will take a few weeks to begin to notice anything. For Cramps some potassium and magnesium supps would help. You might have some water retention.
I did read that in one of the DS threads. How long typically would you take it for? I only ordered one bottle.



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I absolutely love the journal title.

I'm starting mp again, soon, it'll be fun to see how you like it. I was only on it for 1 week, it doesn't matter why.
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Welcome back, MC!

Way to get all the setbacks crammed into three months, man. Haha



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Way to get all the setbacks crammed into three months, man. Haha

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Thanks guys! I'm definitely gonna need the encouragement for this one. Lifting is the easy part, it's the damn diet that kicks my ass.



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First experience at the new gym.

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135 - 8
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135 - 8
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Chins:
BW - 8,8,8

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Well, today was interesting to say the least. The new gym is a ghost town, which is cool, but it's also fairly small, so it fills up in a hurry. Come to find out all the trainers at my old gym are using this gym until their new gym opens. Sooooooo, this means 3 PT's training 3 clients, in a space that is nowhere near big enough. The funniest part is the PT's were attempting to circuit train their clients, AND this one idiot has this fucking rope ladder setup on the floor like we were in a fucking gymnasium, running agility drills. Thank God they will be gone by the end of the week. Anyway, did a full body "refresher course" today, felt real good. Picked up some "Chuck's" and I can't believe how good it felt to squat in those things. I widened my stance a bit and my knees felt pretty fucking good I have to say. Amazing how proper footwear can mean so much.



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So you got them afterall...nice!



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So you got them afterall...nice!
Hah! Couldn't help it, they were only 30 bucks and they felt so good when I tried them on. It's about as close to barefoot as you can get it feels like. Love em!



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That trainer with the speed ladder is Kevin Lucas or Smith. Hes actually one of the better trainers, but space is space.

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The chins...are these up?

How was today overall? Tiring? Might be sore since you havent done much in a bit.



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That trainer with the speed ladder is Kevin Lucas or Smith. Hes actually one of the better trainers, but space is space.




The chins...are these up?

How was today overall? Tiring? Might be sore since you havent done much in a bit.
I call CG underhand pullups "chins" and the ones you saw me do I consider WG Pullups. I can do a few more underhand.

Yeah, I know he knows what he's doing, but for christ's sake he had that shit set up in a space the size of the walkway on ole bus 245. I felt like I was on a full bus every time I tried walking by!

Beleive it or not this workout was very easy until I got to the hypers. They fucked me up.



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Is that a full day from westside?



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Is that a full day from westside?
No, I'm gonna do full body workouts until next friday just to get back in the swing of things. Westside is a bit different.



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you guys train at the same gym?



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We did, but that gym has moved and is changing ownership so I decided to go a different route. My new gym doesn't have DB's heavy enough for Akira.



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You can see lots of westside program in my journal. I dont like doing westside while cutting. Westside takes alot of a person and without the excess cals I wouldnt do it. But I guess try it and see what happens. I love westside, but not in this situation.
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You can see lots of westside program in my journal. I dont like doing westside while cutting. Westside takes alot of a person and without the excess cals I wouldnt do it. But I guess try it and see what happens. I love westside, but not in this situation.
Yeah, I've been giving it more thought and I may not go through with it. I think 3 full body sessions and 2 cardio sessions will be the way to go for now. I'll probably start westside in the summer when I'm eating a lot again. We'll see...



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Yeah, I've been giving it more thought and I may not go through with it. I think 3 full body sessions and 2 cardio sessions will be the way to go for now. I'll probably start westside in the summer when I'm eating a lot again. We'll see...
Sounds like a much better plan to me. Westside is all about strength and though it can be done, its much easier to put on strength whenever you eat excess cals.
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Sounds like a much better plan to me. Westside is all about strength and though it can be done, its much easier to put on strength whenever you eat excess cals.
The goal really wasn't putting on strength. I just liked the protocol. Plus I like lifting 4 days a week. Although there might be a little problem doing ME lifts at my new gym considering I was the only person in there yesterday.



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