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No-Bull Muscle Building Plan
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03-08-2007, 05:48 AM
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No! Keep increasing weight!
Your joint will be fine.
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03-09-2007, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardinal
Legs
Squats 225x5, 275x3x5, 225x10, 225x9, 225x7
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Legs
Squats 225x5, 265x5, 285x2x5, 295x3, 305x3, 245x10, 225x9
Cardio
Elliptical 90:00, Lots of calories burned
Notes
I am pleased. Everything above 265x5 were PRs on the squats. I think 305x3 is a safe 3RM at this point. I could cleary single 315 if I wanted. That has been a really long term goal for me. Finally stayed on tren long enough to get there hehe. I started dieting on thursday. Lots of Broccoli and Cauliflower. I have been craving that for some reason. Diet is going to be relatively extreme, something like PSMF with lots of cardio. I feel great on it so far.
Skipped out on doing deadlifts again this week. I know I should be able to pull over 400 without much trouble. May give it a test after I am done dieting.
When I got up to 305x3 I could feel I was finally putting enough strain on lower back/glutes to where it felt legitimately heavy. It always feels really heavy on the weak knees and quads. If I had to rely on quad squatting I'd be sunk. The main reason I should be able to continue to progress on squats over time is b/c I mainly just use the pulling muscle.
I suspect that is another reason for me that high rep squats tend to build better quads. I don't feel much with the lower rep work in the quads. Too much lilke a power squat. My form and depth change slightly when I drop the weight to like 225 or 245 and go for 10 reps. The loading followed by density method also will help a lot with quad development overall. I love how it feels to squat heavy then follow it by something akin to density work. The lighter weights feel like nothing and I can get more out of it after being so thoroughly warmed up. I just didn't have the gas to give it a full density effort these last couple of workouts. Too focused on strength.
Bodyweight at the start of this little diet is about 225 fyi. I hoping to drop at least 10 lbs combined water/fat weight. We shall see.
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03-09-2007, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDyl
No! Keep increasing weight!
Your joint will be fine.
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I am definitely thinking more along the lines of conjugating it. CGBP sounds like fun. Haven't done them in a long while. It will put my elbow in a different and safer alignment. I will start lighter and work my way up over the next few weeks.
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03-12-2007, 06:33 PM
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Pull
Today's workout was an exercise in seeing how little weight I could put put on the machine (forget free weights, I was curling with 30's haha).
Diet
Morning bodyweight has been about 219 the last two days. Losing overall bodyweight on tren is indeed a challenge. I am hoping to get down to about 214 or so by next Sunday. Diet has been strict. Got in four days averaging about 1200 kcals/day. My heart palpitations have acted up a little due to the lower carbohydrate/insulin levels, so I am adding carbs to the plan, 100-150 g/day, still keeping calories as low as possible.
Food selection is decent. Casein, tuna, spinach, brocolli, cauliflower, potatoes. Russets seem to be the easiest starch for me to use on a diet since I don't overeat on them easily. I just cook the instant mashed variety and don't use any seasoning. The old digestive system isn't liking all the cruciferous veggies but it won't have to tolerate them for long. They are just too effective as diet aids.
Cardio
Yes and lots of it. Definitely trying to time it when all the hotties are working out.
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03-14-2007, 03:21 PM
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Push
CGBP 185x9, 195x7, 205x6, 215x5
Tricep Stuff
Laterals
Cardio
Elliptical ~ 1 hour
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03-15-2007, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Legs
Squats 225x5, 265x5, 285x2x5, 295x3, 305x3, 245x10, 225x9
Cardio
Elliptical 90:00, Lots of calories burned
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Sweet. I like the way you train C.
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03-17-2007, 12:12 PM
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Thanks JD: The powerrack is definitely the place to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Legs
Squats 225x5, 265x5, 285x2x5, 295x3, 305x3, 245x10, 225x9
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Legs
Squats 185x5, 225x5, 265x5, 295x5, 315x3, 265x8, 265x5
Cardio
Precor 25:00
Notes
Took me awhile to get the joints warmed up, but 315 surprisingly didn't feel all that heavy. I started to feel like I was going to puke, so that necessitated keeping the reps low toward the end of the workout. Shame b/c I felt really strong.
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03-17-2007, 12:39 PM
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You need to up your potassium intake, and drink more water. That should cut down on the palpitations.
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Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
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Total ownage.
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03-17-2007, 01:44 PM
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I will try consuming slightly more K+.
However, it seems protein and what it does to my insulin levels seems to really aggravate palpitations. Specifically, whey protein and gluten cause me big problems. So I need to keep them out of my diet. For now, I am trying a diet with corn and potato products. I am going to keep protein on the low side of things right now and add more fruit to the diet. I tend to get pretty bad post-prandial hypoglycemia when I get a lot of calories and protein.
My heart is just plain weird. I am going to see if I can make the palpitations largely go away with diet mentioned above. I have succeeded with it in the past. Need to go back to it now. It is funny I can put away ~1800 kcals of grits and potato chips in one sitting and not get any reactive hypoglycemia. But add protein in there and it is a whole different story.
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03-17-2007, 01:57 PM
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When my anxiety and bp are under control, I have virtually no palpitations, but rarely, after a huge meal, and laying on my side, I may have 1 light one.
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Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
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Total ownage.
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03-19-2007, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Pull
Row 100x12, 130x7, 125x7
Curls 65x7, 50x10, 45x6, 40x6
HS Isolateral Row 270x6, 300x6, 340x3
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Pull
HS Isolateral Row 180x12, 270x8, 320x6, 340x5, 360x3
Chins BWx7
Low Rows
Curls 65x7, 40x10
Notes
Getting stronger on the rows. Isolateral row is definitely my favorite. Easy to progress on weight. I think I outgrew the regular hammerstrength high row. The weight I was using was pulling me off the bench too easily.
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03-21-2007, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Push
CGBP 185x9, 195x7, 205x6, 215x5
Tricep Stuff
Laterals
Cardio
Elliptical ~ 1 hour
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Push
CGBP 185x5, 205x6, 225x5, 235x5
Bench 205x9, 185x9
DB OH Press 70x9, 75x6, 80x5
Pushdowns 80x8, 60x8, 40x10, 40x10
HS Tricep 2x12
Laterals 40x10, 32.5x12
Cardio
Elliptical 50:00
Notes
Felt strong today. The CGBP may have been a PR. Can't remember the last time I did them. DB presses are also very close to a PR. Strength just seems way up across the board. I am not complaining.
I stopped the cardio short hoping I could get into a ~3 pm showing of 300. Tough luck. Nothing til 5, so I will have to wait to see it and ghost rider. For some reason I have been on a movie watching kick. I even signed up for blockbuster onlines free 2 week trial. I should end up getting 8 movies for $4.64 total as long as I remember to cancel in the next two weeks. Tough deal to beat short of pirating the movies.
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03-21-2007, 04:39 PM
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GOod workout, man.
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Your diet will set you free.
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03-21-2007, 04:42 PM
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Thanks for checking in fufu!
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03-23-2007, 04:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Legs
Squats 185x5, 225x5, 265x5, 295x5, 315x3, 265x8, 265x5
Cardio
Precor 25:00
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Legs
Squats, 135x6, 185x5, 225x5, 265x5, 295x5, 320x4, 275x8, 265x7, 245x7, 225x6
Precor Cardio 30:00
Notes
Stronger. Last rep with 320 was nice and deep, probably right at or just below parallel. First three were probably a couple of inches above parallel. I felt like going a bit deeper gave me a bit of a spring effect. Tough to trust that with heavier weight though. Tren + green tea is one hell of a cns combo, lol.
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03-26-2007, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Pull
HS Isolateral Row 180x12, 270x8, 320x6, 340x5, 360x3
Chins BWx7
Low Rows
Curls 65x7, 40x10
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Pull
HS Isolateral Row 180x8, 270x8, 320x6, 340x6, 360x4
Low Rows
Curls 65x8, 45x10, 35x10
Cardio
Elliptical 30:00
Notes
Seems to have taken me about 3 weeks to add one rep to the curls and that last one about killed me. I think I need to dream up a better strength protocol for training them.
Got my blood drawn today. Nurse said I had too much forearm muscle. Dug around for a minute or two trying to find slip in the vein in my right arm. Glad I have no fear of needles. Hopefully within a few days or a week I will have some bloodwork to show you guys. It will be tren bloodwork, so could be a bit on the nasty side of things.
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03-28-2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardinal
Push
CGBP 185x5, 205x6, 225x5, 235x5
Bench 205x9, 185x9
DB OH Press 70x9, 75x6, 80x5
Pushdowns 80x8, 60x8, 40x10, 40x10
HS Tricep 2x12
Laterals 40x10, 32.5x12
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Push
Bench 185x8, 225x6, 245x5, 255x4, 175x2x10
Tricep Pushdowns 100x7, 60x8, 50x8, 40x9
HS Tricep 70x12, 50x15, 30x15
Laterals 42.5x9, 32.5x10
Notes
PR on bench. Elbow joint was fine. Triceps definitely are weak. Need to work on lockout big time.
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03-28-2007, 01:19 PM
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Bloodwork
Lipids are a bit on the ugly side of things. I clearly should have taken some precautions there. If anything, those results are expected. Compared to my bloodwork after superdrol, those lipids are fairly atrocious. I am pretty happy with the liver values. ALT, AST are a bit high compared to my last readings, but not terrible imo. Very happy with the PSA of 1.3!
In comparison, I had HDL of 53 and LDL of 100 last time. Big change eh?
Chemistries
Uric Acid Serum 1.5 (2.4-8.2) LOW
BUN 18 (5-26)
Creatinine Serum 1.3 (.5-1.5)
Phosphorus 5.1 (2.5-4.5) HIGH
Liver
LDH 200 (100-250)
AST 42 (0-40) HIGH
ALT 34 (0-55)
GGT 10 (0-65)
Lipids
Cholesterol, Total 229 (100-199) HIGH
Triglycerides 98 (0-149)
HDL 15 (40-59) LOW
LDL Calc 194 (0-99) HIGH
Prostate Specific Ag - Serum 1.3 (0-4)
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03-30-2007, 02:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Legs
Squats, 135x6, 185x5, 225x5, 265x5, 295x5, 320x4, 275x8, 265x7, 245x7, 225x6
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Legs
Squats 135x5, 185x6, 225x6, 265x6, 295x5, 330x4, 315x4, 295x6, 225x9, 225x7
Precor 30:00
Notes
330 felt awkward. Didn't get that close to parallel. I need another week or two to get more comfortable using that weight. I felt like 3/4 of the lift was a good morning using my back and that I just didn't make it deep enough. It has been a long time since I deadlifted. Next week that should happen.
Bold Cypionate
My little 3 month stint on Tren E is coming to a close. Very happy with the results I am. I finally got around to homebrewing a little boldenone and got the nerve to shoot 1cc last night. I am not really sure what to expect. Flu-like symptoms and anxiety most likely. Made it 2/20 BA/BB, with 8% super-solvent as well. The rest is 50/50 EO/cottonseed. It held fine. Wish me luck. If I can hold out I will run it alone long enough to evaluate how it works for me. First time on EQ.
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04-02-2007, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Pull
HS Isolateral Row 180x8, 270x8, 320x6, 340x6, 360x4
Low Rows
Curls 65x8, 45x10, 35x10
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Pull
HS Isolateral Row 180x12, 270x2x8, 360x5, 340x2x6
Curls 70x5, 45x10, 40x10
HS Low Row 3 sets
Forearms 5 sets
Cardio
Elliptical 30:00
Notes
Got better idea for curls. Just picked up 70's and gave it a shot. Got a PR. Need to be able to microload those. Too bad we don't have adjustable dumbbells even. I'd love to get to where I could do 70sx8 or so. But doing it by adding a rep at a time would indeed take forever.
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04-02-2007, 06:26 PM
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Good jorb bro.
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Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
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Total ownage.
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04-09-2007, 06:09 PM
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Sorry for lack of updates.
I do recall benching 265x3 on push day.
Last leg days wasn't great from strength perspective only did 315x3. Going to workout again now with pull.
Boldenone Cyp
Two weeks in.
Side effects so far at 500-550 mg EW.
Impatience. Increased libido (from only tren to tren + eq). Increase and more restful sleep (3 nights 10 hours of sleep each night). Will report more later.
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04-09-2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardinal
Pull
HS Isolateral Row 180x12, 270x8, 320x6, 370x5
Curls 70x5 + lots of other sets
HS Low Row
Forearms
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A little stronger. Gonna stay on tren another week to see if I get any more muscle by just adding the eq at kick in.
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04-11-2007, 03:45 PM
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Push
Bench, 135x8, 185x8, 225x5, 245x3, 270x3, 225x8, 205x7, 185x8
Machine Bench 3x10
Tricep Pushdowns 100x5, 60x9, 50x8, 40x10
HS Tricep Pushdown 3x12
Laterals 40x11, 30x12
Front laterals 30x7
Notes
270 was really shaky, bad form all around. I'd like to hit 275x3, then I will work on strength training some other pushing lifts. Maybe some tricep work or overhead pressing.
Body is cramping in every muscle group on Tren + EQ.
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04-13-2007, 09:50 PM
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Legs
Deadlift 225x2x5, 295x5, 314x4, 355x4, 385x1, 405x1, 315x6
Squats 185x10, 205x8, 225x8, 245x6
Leg Extension 5 sets
Notes
Lower back was reminding me I hadn't deadlifted in about 6 weeks or more. Legs shook like a leaf with 405 on the bar. I am surprised I lifted it at all. That might have been a little heavy considering all factors. Surprisingly adding 50 lbs to my squat hasn't seemed to do much of anything for my deadlift. When I got to squatting, everything felt smooth and normal. Habituation is cool.
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04-16-2007, 03:56 PM
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Pull
HS High Row Top set 135x5
Curls 70x5
Cardio
Elliptical 45:00
Notes
For lats this week, I just went around to the various machines and tried a set on each one. It was a fun change of pace. Probably did 10 sets or so of lat work. Couldn't get an extra rep on the curls but I am slightly strong. I at least tried the 6th rep and failed this time.
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04-16-2007, 04:06 PM
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STEP IT UP SON! BEFORE I WHIP THAT ASS INTO SHAPE!
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Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.
Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
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Total ownage.
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