fantasma62

Today my brain broke my hand.....well, not exactly, but it could have happened...

It was the perfect day to work out. Long, pissy day at work, bad mood traffic. The setting was there it was perfect. It couldn't have possibly been any better.

I got home wrapped up my hands tightly to make sure I didn't injure myself further when I went at it and grabbed the jump rope.

Then I moved on to my three rounds of shadow boxing and then the moment of truth, the heavy bag...and that's why I said almost, because I decided that my right hand wasn't ready yet for the heavy bag. So I proceeded with more shadow boxing.

It may have been disastrous, if not for the words that Pylon said: "Dude, give it time to heal. Push too hard and you could miss more time". Those were the only thoughts that entered my mind at that moment.
Thanks Pylon, for some reason you got inside my brain there....

Anyway, for the workout.

*1 minute of jump rope: Yes, one freaking minute. I found out real fast the type of shape my legs and arms are in. I couldn't make it past a minute without feeling pain on my knees and thighs. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't damage pain, it was rust pain. I was able to skip around during my shadow boxing after the rope.

*6 rounds of shadow boxing (as usual 3/1) I went all out and folks, let me tell you, in round 6 I was pawing, rather than throwing punches as I could barely keep my hands up. Sad shape, I know. The good news is that if it wasn't for my arms and shouders I may have had enough wind for another 4 rounds. Not bad for an out of shape fat guy...

*2 rounds of speed bag (3/1): very happy with this one as I picked up a good rythm and hit the bag pretty well. However, my shoulders were so sore already that I had to stop 2 or 3 times per round, bring my hands down to my hips and get in rythm again. I also was able to make it a less-slow bag than I had made it on monday.

I am happy I did what I did today and pray that tomorrow I will be ready to lift. I am going to re-think a bit tonight my routine due to the stress that I put my shoulders in tonight. Believe me, they are already sore and it has been 1/2 hour.

I'll post a revised workout for tomorrow's weights a bit later...

-Tony-

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Pylon

You may wanna get that thing fumigated now....At the very least, be sure you wash any exposed areas.

"For beverages, I only drink water or whiskey and when I’m drinking whiskey, it’s usually when I’m working out. It gives me the courage to lift more than I can when I’m sober." - C. Bratton

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Archangel

Excellent w/o Brother Tony, SO glad you listened to Brother Pylon!!!
Do you wrap between your fingers too???

"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13

"For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

fantasma62

-Tony-

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fantasma62

I do the wrap between the middle and ring fingers. I have VERY strong knuckles so I try to concentrate must of my wrapping around my weak-ass wrists. I went backwards on monday because I wrapped a bit more at the knuckles and less at the wrists. I corrected that today....very satisfied....

-Tony-

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fantasma62

After re-thinking my strategy. I may just do shrugs twice a week and leave off the other shoulder exercises. The shadow boxing and not-so-fast bag yesterday did a number on my shouders. They are sore and I am happy about that.

Wrist feels great today. It no longer hurts to make a fist and I can move it easily.

I will let you know how the workout goes tonight. I am going to tweak a few things and see what happens...

-Tony-

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fantasma62

This is my final routine which I will be working on tonight:

DB Chest Press


DB Flyes


Inclined Hammer Curls


DB Prone Incline curls


DB Kickbacks


DB Lying pull over


Lunges


DB Single Calf Raises


DB Straight Legged DL’s

I don't think I'll be able to write all that well once I am done so adding weights is enough for me tonight. I'll post results later...

-Tony-

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Archangel

Lookin good Brother Tony!!! Best Wishes my Friend!!!

"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13

"For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

fantasma62

Thanks Brother Arch, almost there though. I kinda' started lifting but decided to back off tonight too as I felt a little something there.
Tomorrow I will most probably do the boxing workout and hit the heavy bag. I am sure that by saturday I will be able to lift. I owe it to myself.

Sorry folks, no new workout today. I am a bit let down, but at least I know that I won't be hurting myself further....It sucks, but I guess I'll give it one more day.

-Tony-

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fantasma62

Well, got home a bit late and in reality did not feel like training today, so I went ahead and ...trained.

I ate my dinner at 7:30 pm and finished at around 8:10pm (part of having the gastric band in my esophagus is that I have to eat very slowly or risk having the food getting stuck there - nothing happens if it does, just uncomfortable). At around 10:10pm I started with my rope, four rounds of shadow boxing and tried to follow those with 2 rounds of heavy bag and 2 rounds of speed bag.
Well, it didn't really work that way as I still feel a little something in my wrist and decided to go ahead and not hit the bag. It's not pain, it's a bit of a ghost pain. I don't know how to explain it other than it didn't hurt, it mostly annoyed me. Instead of risking it, one more time, I continued shadow and finished all six rounds of shadow.

In the sixth round I could barely throw any punches and in fact, found myself throwing arm punches toward the end. My shoulders and lats are sore as I threw a whole hell of a lot of punches. Also, I did a bit better with the rope today.

All in all, I am very happy about the fact that I went ahead and trained even after I didn't really want to.

I don't think that tomorrow there will be any weights tomorrow as it still bothers me to close the fist tightly. Again, not painful, just bothersome.

I guess we'll see....

I still have my mind made up regarding my future workout with weights and the boxing training has reenforced this mindset. Shrugs only, no need for a lot of shoulder work. I am, however, going to maybe include in my off days one or two exercises that DOMS' articles showed for shoulder health.

All righty then.....

It went something like this:

*3 minutes of rope work - don't even think that I went and did all three minutes of rope. In fact, I stopped a bunch of times when I would step on the rope, but immediately started again. Got tired after three minutes and maybe wore myself out and found myself running out of gas in the 6th round of shadow. Did I mind? No, I'll keep starting my workouts with rope work and go from there.

*6 rounds shadow boxing (3/1) - five rounds all out and the last round as all out as I cut muster.

*2 rounds speed bag (3/1) - great session today. Got a rythm going early and it went on for the 2 rounds. No, I wasn't really going extremely fast, but I did go faster today.

I hope to include a little running in this HIHT soon. However, I hate running like poison, but understand that is a must. We'll see what happens...only time will tell.

-Tony-

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Archangel

Excellent!!!
Smart move backing off and waiting for the weights!!!

"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13

"For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

Pylon

Nice work, Tony. Workouts that come when you don't feel like doing it are always a good sign.

"For beverages, I only drink water or whiskey and when I’m drinking whiskey, it’s usually when I’m working out. It gives me the courage to lift more than I can when I’m sober." - C. Bratton

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fantasma62

Brother Arch, Brother Pylon, thanks for the words of encouragement...

I figured I have nothing to lose if I repeat the same workout daily until my hand gets better.
I am going to try to repeat it again tonight and hopefully tomorrow until my hand is fully healed. I want to be able to do at least 6 rounds of shadow by the end of the month without running out of steam in the sixth round again. Also, I want to shorten my rest time to 1/2 minute if possible...

-Tony-

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fantasma62

I may be wrong, but I found out in the last few days that keeping my arms up as much as I could, not only work out the shoulders, but the traps too. My traps were sore this morning. Not overly sore, just a bit sore. Enough to think I actually worked out the traps somehow.

Funny as there is a possibility that I will shorten the shrugs to maybe just one day a week. I don't know....we'll see...

-Tony-

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Pylon

That would make sense. Traps keep your arms up to the sides, so they would be getting some work (if not as much as the shoulders.)

"For beverages, I only drink water or whiskey and when I’m drinking whiskey, it’s usually when I’m working out. It gives me the courage to lift more than I can when I’m sober." - C. Bratton

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fantasma62

See? I may be getting smarter.....nah never mind...

-Tony-

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Archangel

I agree, I would only do 1 direct shoulder movement and 1 direct trap movement once a week, and alternate them too, that will help out tremendously!!!

"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13

"For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

fantasma62

Thank you for your input Brother Arch, it makes me feel smarter to have folks like you and Pylon agreeing with me. I guess I am getting somewhat smarter...

-Tony-

HIHT: High Intensity Hybrid Training

fantasma62

Allright, as I said I went out tonight again and trained. This time however, I did feel like training.

I tweaked things a bit and decided to time everything. I thought I should time my rope work to the last second and for the first time I took a step toward HIHT. I failed, which makes me happy.

I'll explain:

*Rope work: 2 rounds (2/1). This was much better than doing the three straight minutes and stopping from yesterday. This really was a better way to do things because when I was done with my second round, my legs were unsteady. I know, only two rounds, two minutes each, but for me is a hell of a lot.

*Shadow Boxing: 7 rounds (3/1). This is where I reached failure. This was entirely by mistake, however. I simply lost track of the rounds.
The reality is that those two rounds of rope really take steam out of me. So, by the 4th round of shadow I was pretty spent. But I continued on to the 5th, feeling worse, then in the 6th I was totally spent. However, I had already lost track of the rounds, so I pushed on upset because I thought I had only fought 5 rounds, so I went on dead tired. To say that at the end of the 7th round I couldn't throw a punch and even felt somewhat dizzy and maybe a bit light headed is not an exaggeration. I did not notice that I had fought 7 rounds until I got to the speed bag and I didn't hear the bell ring for what I thought would have been the 8th round. It ended up being the 9th round.

*Speed bag: 2 rounds (3/1). I am proud to say that after finishing that 7th round I only gave myself my normal 1 minute rest and went on to the speed bag, where again, I got better rythm and went much faster than yesterday. What I mean with "better rythm" is that I hit the bag steadily without losing my concentration, thus, having less stoppages due to hitting the bag wrong or out of rythm, where I may have slowed down myself a bit and lost track of what I was doing. Either way, I noticed after this 8th rond (what I thought was the 7th round), that the bell didn't ring to start what would have been the 8th, that's when I noticed what I had done. So I set up the timer and moved on to the 9th round, now fully aware of my mistake.

In conclusion, I felt that tonight I took a nice step toward my HIHT by going an extra round (that extra rep when you are lifting) and literally failing or feeling a bit too light on my feet. I am very happy with this workout and I am looking forward to tomorrow when I plan to have another good training session.

On a side note, I felt no pain whatsoever in my right hand after making a tight fist, but I figure I am going to hold out from lifting until next tuesday, when I am supposed to follow my monday boxing workout. I figure, until I am sure that my hand is fine, I will continue with boxing.

HIHT baby.....paying dividends....

-Tony-

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fantasma62

Another very satisfying workout....

I felt much stronger in my 7th round tonight than I did yesterday. My feeling is I either wasn't working as hard as yesterday, which I don't believe, because I throw a rather large amount of punches. I guess I am going to need an 8th round.

I had a thought regarding the heavy bag. Seeing that I am going to be trying to apply HIT to my shadow boxing, I am going to change things around and attack the heavy bag first. My reasoning is simple. When I finish shadow boxing I am pretty spent and all I have energy for is the speed bag, which is a shoulder and arm workout in itself. If I hit the heavy bag as spent as I may be after either shadow or speed bag, I may hit the bag wrong again and this time, I may hurt my hand worse. So my workout is going to be: rope, heavy bag, shadow boxing, speed bag.

So tonight's workout:

*Rope: 2 rounds (2/1)

*Shadow Boxing: 7 rounds (3/1)

*Speed bag: 2 rounds (3/1)

I am thinking of tinkering with the speed bag rounds a lot more than the heavy bag rounds. The latter takes a heavy toll on your hands and I really don't want the problems that come about later. I am going to add a couple of ab exercises in lieu of taking out the shoulder routines.

All right, good night ya'll...

-Tony-

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fantasma62

As I have been doing the "rope work", I have noticed that during and the day after, both my knees are aching a bit more than they normally do. It goes away, but now, for the stupid question of the day, could I be putting more strain on the knees than I should by jumping rope wrong? I figure it's kinda' like riding a bike. Or maybe it's just old age creeping up on me...

Who knows, just thought I'd make a comment....

-Tony-

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Archangel

Do you take anything for your joints???
I highly suggest GLC 2000, it has worked for me VERY well!!!

"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13

"For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

fantasma62

Hey Arch, I used to but haven't had a problem with either of my knees in the past couple of years (WHen I again ballooned to 291 pounds). Heck, even at 310, I didn't have knee problems.
This feels more like knee soreness because of the short pounding they take when I jump rope. I actually feel it while I am skipping, so I have a feeling that today I am going to take it easy on the rope work and do the rest of the work, while I look forward to tomorrow....

Once I am done training, I am going to ice the knee... I am not worried much thought. It seems to just be sore, but it is sore enough to keep me from doing rope today...

-Tony-

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Archangel

What kind of surface do you jump on???
I would suggest getting some used carpet pieces or something and doublin/tripling up on that!!! The wheels need to be taken care of my Friend!!! Also you don't use a weighted rope or anything do ya??? Waste of time and more wear on the joints (all over) imo!!! You build up your wind w/ rope jumping, and the rest of your body w/ bagwork/sparring!!!

"I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13

"For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

fantasma62