goob

Yeah, After you mentioned them in your journal, I looked them up, and that's what they said to do.
I found it strange I did'nt get DOMS too. Reckon I could of thown more weight on. Next time I will get DOMS dammit!

Intresting point about sensations/ emotions. I suppose they are just chemical reactions telling your body information, so although some may feel bad, they are really just messages? Just my 2 cents.

DOMS

It's quite possible that, because of genetics, you're not going to get it.

But yeah, on my first set I used way too little weight. I think that it's natural for a thoughtful weight trainer to shoot low and work his way up. It's safer that way.

Emotions and sensations are like food, if you eat too much of the same thing, then it starts to taste bland.

goob

I'll add around 20-40 onto it and see where that gets me. Hopefully, not a very clean, big white building with lots of beds and knowledgable people in white coats.........

goob

DB Bench
70's x 5
75's x 5
75's x 5
Flat BB Bench
125 x 3
125 x 3

BB Millitary Press
90 x 4
90 x 4
DB Shoulder Press
60's x 7
60's x 7

Lat Raises
20's x 5
20's x 5
20's x 5

Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 8

(Extra)
Hise Shrugs (paused for between 2-3 secs at top of lift)
160 x 8
200 x 12
200 x 12

Upright Rows
65 x 8
70 x 6
70 x 6
70 x 6

Average workout. Not great. Could not resist the Hise's. After the second set, I curiously lost all feeling in my shoulders. Really wierd, could move them with ease, but could'nt feel any movement. Alnost like a local anesthetic. Could have gone even heavier, but I know, this time, I WILL feel the wrath of DOMS on my traps. Best lift of the workout - the rest were not good.

BigDyl

1337 dumbells. j00 have more strength w/ dumbells than barbell... which can be a good thing.

Total ownage.

fufu

Good stuff, you bench DB bench alot more than your barbell, eh?

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goob

TY 'Dyl.

Seems so. Have never really thought about the difference/ colleration between the two. I'm guessing this is unusual.

The only problem with DB's is that they are not the easiest to get from the rack and into position for flat bench. I almost fell off the bench twice.
With that and the after-effects from Bulgarian's, Hise's etc..., people are seriously going to start thinking I workout drunk.

DOMS

It's funny that you mentioned the numbness. I didn't give it much thought, bu the same thing happened to me. Strange...

goob

TY. Yeah, it's a strange feeling, never had it with any other lift.

GJ on suggesting Hise's, I'm liking them a lot. Expecting some DOMS on the traps tomorrow. If not then i'm adding an extra 20-40lb's each time til i do get some...............or colapse under the weight.

fufu

I think I may try Hise shrugs, I get the jist of how to do them, any pointers?

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katt

I may do these also on my next time!

DOMS

Hey, I'm only doing what others have done for me.

AKIRA

I Hise shrugged 245lbs yesterday and I am not sore

About the DB to BB number coorelation, forget it. Check out Uthinkso's thread in Training for details.

6' 209lbs (8/16)
Bench 365 (12/3)
Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19)
Squat 370
Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17)
NASM certified 2/06
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goob

I don't think there is anything I could teach you Fu-manchu. I guess, pause for 2-3 secs at top of lift, and don't worry about the loss of feeling in shoulders afterwards! Would be intrested to see how much you put up.

Let us know if you et DOMS after, I've been expecting some, but somehow not yet??

Indeed sir, but you do have some great suggestions. Especially for another cadet of pain like me.

Add more weight, come on, reckon you could with your lifts.

Did have a look. People reckoned that if you could do 60 lb's Flat DB Bench, then you could do 200lb BB Bench. There's no fucking way I could do a 200lb BB bench lift........but can do 70lb DB Flat Bench???

DOMS

I went to an expert for my next pain-filled routine.

goob

Pull Ups (Medium overhand grip - more as a warm up than anything else)
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW x 5

Deadlifts (Std.)

170 x 5
180 x 4
180 x 4
180 x 4

T Bar Rows
140 x 8
145 x 5
145 x 4
Bent over Rows
100 x 5
105 x 5
105 x 5

DB Pull overs
85 x 5
85 x 5
85 x 5

Seated Rows
120 x 6
120 x 6

Cable Tricep Ext
60 x 5
65 x 5
65 x 5

Farmers Walk
60's (1 min walk)

Not too bad. Deadlifts got the sweat on, but the D-bar Row/ Bent over row combo were responsible for the teeth kicking pain part. Could do DB pull-overs until the cows came home. - An easy, but quite satisfying lift.

Also, went for 3 mile run hours later. Could not hit top speed, knee still not fully healed, so took it at an average pace. Want to do some HIIT, but it will be a while before leg allows me.

goob

On a side note:

I've always wanted to know the answer to this question:

What is the best amount of time Pre-workout to have food?
I usually go with a large carb packed meal- 4-6 eggs, Cup of oats and/or wholemeal pasta, Veg, sweet potatoes.

I usually eat this 1.5 - 2 hours before. What is the optimum time to eat a large meal before working out to get peak performance??? What d'yall do?

DOMS

Great job on the Deads!

fufu

Looks good.

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No strength within, no respect without - Kasmiri Proverb

goob

Thanks kind sir's, this is for you....

YouTube Video

Lovely song, cool vid.

fufu

The Shins, right?

I remember seeing that music video at like 3 am one time, good stuff.

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goob

Exactly. Liking their laid back sound, very melodic.

goob

Squats Std.
100 x 10
170 x 8
180 x 5
180 x 5
180 x 5

Bulgarian Squats (BL = Both Legs)
35 x 7 BL
40 x 8 BL
40 x 8 BL
40 x 8 BL

Woodchoppers (High - Low) - Bakerboy suggested these somewhere..
25 x 5 (Both Sides)
30 x 5
30 x 5
30 x 5

(Extra)
One Armed Unsupported Rows
60 x 8 (Both Sides)
60 x 8
65 x 8
65 x 8

(Extra)
Leg Ext
140 x 15

Leg Press
530 x 10
530 x 10
530 x 10

Oh dear lord. That was hard, closest I've come to puking in a while. Curiously, this was during the U/s One armed Rows rather than, the KGB designed Bulgarian body destroyers.

Sailed through squats, easily. Had a bit of back pain from last pull workout before I started, so was'nt too confident on squats, although I reckon I could maybe go up 20 -40 lb's. I've never tested squats properly, so it's a possiblility, legs could definately take it.

Bulgarian's were a different story though. Went the heaviest yet on these, and boy did I feel it. It's not so much the weight as the getting in position and balancing. Had to sit down for 4 minutes after these as back was shot to fuck.

Woodcutters, are a Bakerboy sugestion in DOMS journal I think. Thought I'd try them. Form was poor, hard to use just your torso to move, and grip /_\ handle was too small for two hands really. A nice change.

Felt like an Guantanamo bay prisoner after workout.

fufu

lawl, sounds like a good hard workout, like Andrew.

rows look good!

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goob

Hahaha...

BigDyl

skeet skeet skeet

Total ownage.

goob

Don't make em like they used too.....

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goob

Bump.

Anyone????

I'm finding, 2 hours for a big, first meal of the day. Maybe eat at 10, workout at 1300. One big meal only after getting up.

Any thoughts?

fufu

If I can work my schedule right, that is how I do it.

One large meal, then wait 1 1/2 hours, then gym.

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