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Old 05-30-2008, 07:38 PM   #571
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Well Dan keeps telling me that Chuck wants to train you so I'd be taking advantage of that shit if I were you.



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Old 05-30-2008, 07:53 PM   #572
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That's news to me, Dan has just been asking if I'm interested in Saturdays and recently that schedule has worked better. Chuck is probably just embarrassed to be associated with a gym where someone out-pulls their squat and he wants to fix that.



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Old 05-30-2008, 11:05 PM   #573
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do you guys train at Danny Dague's gym?

nice log btw



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Old 05-31-2008, 04:06 AM   #574
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Yes. You're the guy from Traverse City right? We benched in a few NASA meets and last time I saw you was at the APF meet in Fremont a few years ago. Dave and I just did the IPA full meet in April You benching 700 yet?

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Old 05-31-2008, 07:04 AM   #575
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You'll find most people recommend to train your deadlift by not pulling full range with straight heavy weight very often. I'd recommend only doing that once every 6 weeks or so to gauge your progress, assuming you're not competing, and do these other variations weekly. It's OK for a beginner to pull full range more frequently to learn the movement, but progress will stall pretty quickly once past that initial phase. Throw in some rack pulls of varying height as well to work the upper half of the deadlift. I wouldn't worry about pulling against bands for now.
Alright. Yeah i dont think i need bands or chains right now at my current level of training.



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Old 05-31-2008, 07:26 AM   #576
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Yes. You're the guy from Traverse City right? We benched in a few NASA meets and last time I saw you was at the APF meet in Fremont a few years ago. Dave and I just did the IPA full meet in April You benching 700 yet?

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Oh yeah! I remember you guys! haha small world

I'm actually back up in Traverse City now for the summer but during the school year train at Westside Barbell. My next meet will be the IPA ProAm in August. I'll be guest benching there

As for the 700, I'm way over in the gym, but I haven't competed in about a year. I just had to take a break for awhile and get my raw strength up. I posted a video of my training session from yesterday in the training forum.



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Old 06-01-2008, 08:28 AM   #577
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ME Bench:
Bar X 25
95 X 10
135 X 8
185 X 5
225 X 2
275 X 1
Added Loose Karins shirt
365 X 1 touched
405 X 1
445 X 1
485 X 1
495 X 1

Floor press lock-outs with mini-bands anchored to dumbells:
405 X 3
455 X 3
455 X 3

Standing ab pulldowns with mini-bands anchored over top of pulley:
90 for 4 sets of 10


Had some trouble with my last two benches. I flared my elbows too early but I was still able to recover the lock-out. Weight also felt pretty heavy in my hands today.



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Old 06-01-2008, 01:20 PM   #578
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I forgot to ask if you figured out if you're pulling in this meet or not?



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Old 06-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #579
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No, this meet will be too crazy. 30 lifters plus handlers minus air conditioning should be interesting.



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Old 06-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #580
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you doing IPA worlds?



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Old 06-01-2008, 08:51 PM   #581
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No. I'm doing the IPA meet in Oct and then the pro-am in Jan. Danny's running an in house meet at the gym in three weeks. 30 lifter maximum. Probably 60-70 people in a 20 X 40 room with no A/C sweating balls. Mostly Lexen lifters but I think George is benching and Laura Phelps is coming. I managed to out squat her by 5 lbs last meet. A very proud achievement if I may say so myself.



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Old 06-01-2008, 08:56 PM   #582
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Do you have a log so I can see what you're doing?



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Old 06-01-2008, 09:01 PM   #583
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yeah I do, but its preferred I don't post the link here, PM me and I'll let you know where its at



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Old 06-01-2008, 09:14 PM   #584
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Did a google search and found it. I should post a log there, not many of us here.



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Old 06-01-2008, 09:17 PM   #585
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my email is travisbell@alumni.cedarville.edu

my log is on a few forums but one is updated faster than a couple others. I'll probably post my max effort stuff here just so people have a reference to what I'm doing for bench



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Old 06-02-2008, 04:17 AM   #586
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I follow Travis's log at the other place off and on, that's where the H-Rolls and Panora pressdowns came from. He does a lot more heavy raw work than a lot of the big equipped benchers. I tried to maintain a log over there for a few weeks, difficult to keep more than 1 going.



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Old 06-02-2008, 07:38 AM   #587
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Yep. I feel it makes me a better overall bencher, plus my body just can't take benching in a shirt all the time. Lou feels that its better to go 2 weeks in the shirt, 2 weeks out. Sometimes we'll go longer each way.

how do you guys do it? I know matt and chewy really like to work the raw angle as well.



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Old 06-02-2008, 07:52 AM   #588
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We usually go 3-4 weeks in the shirt and then a week or two out and do more raw rep work. At least that's how we've done it in the 6 months I've been benching with Pete's group. Leading up to the Oct meet I'm probably going to spend more time doing shirted board work so that I can overload the weight and get used to heavier weights in my hands. One of my biggest issues right now is not feeling comfortable with the heavier weights, which leads to a slow descent and very little out of the shirt at the bottom. I should be able to lock that shit out, if I can figure out what to do with it at the bottom. Reverse bands might help with this as well.

And Pete, I hijack your thread because people keep asking you deadlift questions for some mysterious reason.

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Old 06-02-2008, 12:32 PM   #589
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ah, reverse bands is a very good idea. Definatly will help you overload



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Old 06-02-2008, 03:37 PM   #590
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I usually do 3 weeks of raw work followed by 3 weeks of shirt work and then a deload week where I'll do 225 for sets of 20. On raw weeks I'll hit a max effort lift and then board work for doubles or triples. On shirt weeks I'll usually do singles followed by foam presses for doubles or triples in the shirt. I use a 6 inch foam roller, let the bar sink in and throw it up. I find that I can hold my groove better with the foam roller.

I always end my workout with 2 inch pin presses either in a rack or laying on the floor.

On DE day I hit speed work either with straight weight or bands, followed by some military pressing and tons of rear delt work. Lately we started benching with suspended kettlebells for sets of 5. I may start alternating these with speed work.



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Old 06-02-2008, 05:28 PM   #591
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Holy shit, Pete.

Awesome vids in the training section.



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Old 06-02-2008, 06:16 PM   #592
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:49 PM   #593
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Back day:

45 degree back raises with cambered bar:
95 X 8
115 X 8
135 X 6

shoulder shrugs in calf raise machine:
Stack for 3 sets of 12. Basically I get in the standing calf machine and shrug the shoulder pads up. Saves me from ripping my bicep off.

glute ham raises:
3 sets to failure

bent over rows in horizontal leg press:
315 X 8
340 X 8
365 X 7

chest supported rows:
4 plates for 3 sets of 8

barbell curls:
95 X 8
105 X 8
115 X 8

hammer curls:
55's X 8
60's X 8
60's X 8

Standing ab rope pulldowns:
130 X 12
140 X 8
140 X 8


On Tuesdays I alternate a heavy deadlift/GM movement with the back work I did today. Next Tuesday I'll hit a heavy deadlift movement followed by some GM's. The Tuesday after that I'll do something similar to what I did today and keep switching back and forth. This Friday I'll take a heavy squat movement and the following Friday some speed squats. Basically it looks like this:

Week 1: Tuesday light back
Friday heavy squat followed by speed deads

Week 2: Tuesday heavy deadlift/GM
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:40 PM   #594
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Cardio bench day

Close grip bench:
185 for 4 sets of 15

Seated front barbell military press:
185 for 3 sets of 10

Rear delts on chest supported row:
3 plates for 3 sets of 8

Rear delts on seated row:
160 X 8
180 X 8

Standing ab rope pulldowns:
120 X 12
130 X 10
140 X 8


Looking forward to a heavy squat tomorrow in 95 degree heat, no A/C. Should be interesting.



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Old 06-06-2008, 05:27 PM   #595
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Straight bar box squats, 14 1/2 inch box, predator briefs and belt:
Warm-ups
415 X 2
505 X 2
595 X 1
645 X 1
705 X 1 17" box
745 X 1 18 1/2 " box

Reverse hypers:
245 X 8
280 X 8
280 X 10

Standing ab rope pulldowns with mini bands:
3 sets of 8


The gym was a nice comfortable 95 degrees. One of my training partners who doesn't do more than 3 reps of anything and sweats balls even when it's 20 degrees was doing triples with 415. I bet him one month of gym dues and a free ride to the emergency room if he did a set of 10 and the fucker did it.



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ME Bench, nothng hateful so I kept it kind of light. Had to get in and out quick today.

Med grip raw bench:
275 for 2 sets of 3
295 for 2 sets of 3
315 for 3 sets of 3

Push-ups with two mini bands behind back:
3 sets to failure

Standing ab pulldowns:
3 sets of 10



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ME Bench, nothng hateful so I kept it kind of light. Had to get in and out quick today.

Med grip raw bench:
275 for 2 sets of 3
295 for 2 sets of 3
315 for 3 sets of 3

Push-ups with two mini bands behind back:
3 sets to failure

Standing ab pulldowns:
3 sets of 10
Nice work man even for a "light day" lol. I'm gonna catch you on that bench.



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I wouldn't call it light light, maybe 80-85%. My groove was all over the place, haven't done any full range raw benching in awhile.



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Old 06-10-2008, 04:49 PM   #599
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Heavy Back Day:

Chain suspended cambered bar good mornings, rawwwwwwww, no briefs or belt:
warm-ups
290 X 5
330 X 5
380 X 5
420 X 5
450 X 3 This one took a few years off my life expectancy

Rack pulls-pins set two inches below knee:
warm-ups
405 X 1
495 X 1
585 X 1
635 X 1
675 X 1 This one took four or five years to lock-out.

Barbell curls:
85 X 8
95 X 8
105 X 8
105 X 8

Hammer curls:
55's X 8
55's X 8

Ab wheel of death:
3 sets to failure


Dave made a 655 deadlift today, slight hitch.



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Speed bench with mini-bands anchored under bench:
185 for 8 sets of 3

Seated military press-fat bar:
185 X 5
205 X 5
225 X 5

rear delts on chest supported row:
3 plates for 3 sets of 8

rear delt on seated machine