Thread: M.J.H.'s Journal: Baby Got Back + P/RR/S

This will be interesting to follow

This looks fun.

BoneCrusher
Thanks dude, I'm thinking the same thing! Really looking forward to getting started with it.

soxmuscle
Hey man, long time no talk. How are your workouts coming along? And yeah, I'm hoping these workouts are a lot of fun. They're always changing so I think I'll really enjoy them.

Yo M.J.H.

Ill be checking in now and then to see how you doin.

Tried those heavy hyperextensions for 3 reps for the 2nd time yesterday. Got alot stronger since last time I did them. I like them alot, youre the only person ive seen do them like that.

PhreEkGarden
Hey man, nice to see you made it over here. You might even want to consider starting a journal here it's much smaller on these forums and I would be able to check it out personally. But anyway, yeah I love heavy hyperextensions. One of my favorite exercises, honestly. Not sure how much heavy lower back stuff I'll be doing on this new program, though, we'll see.

655 deadlifts? Jesus, very nice.

You know you have to write Go on the back of one leg and Pro on the back of the other and take a picture for us like Sapphire did!

Glad you're back!

Created an account and will be posting and following. What's the reasoning behind dropping Westside? I've actually decided to do the same and my routine will pretty much be nearly the same as yours, with some slight modifications. I think I'll get a journal going here and take a break from Westside over at bb.com.

peachy keen?

DontStop
Thanks for stopping by, and yes, 655 lbs. deadlift for a single. Not sure when I'll be able to pull anymore though, I think I'm pretty close to my genetic limit for deadlifts. I wanted to hit 700, but who knows when that will ever happen.

Fitgirl
Thanks for the support, appreciate it. And yeah I'm looking forward to gopro's advice here in my journal, I'm hoping for great things with P/RR/S.

Gallaman
Sounds good man, yeah definitely stick around here. It's a great group of people here at IM, and it's much less crowded than over at BB.com. Westside is a hell of a solid program I just get so drained from it. My joints can't take the 1RM's all the time, and mentally I can't take my strength dropping because I'm trying to stay lean during the summer, etc.

Go Pro isnt around to much at all anymore to my knowledge.

BTW-thats a very nice dead!

Double D
Damn, really? That's a shame I always liked his input. But anyway, thanks for stopping by, bro.

Tuesday; 6-5-2007


Horizontal Push/Pull - Power

Incline Bench Presses
3 sets of 3 with 275

Bentover DB Rows
4 sets of 4 with the 100's

Flat DB Flyes
4 sets of 6 with the 60's

CG Cable Rows
3 sets of 3 with 295

Flat DB Presses
4 sets of 4 with the 110's

Support Rows
4 sets of 5 with 190

Cable Crunches
2 sets of 15 with 175

Cardio
5 minutes of HIIT interval training on the treadmill, my intervals today looked like:

1- 3.0 MPH
2- 10.0 MPH
3- 3.0 MPH
4- 10.0 MPH
5- 3.0 MPH


Diet- The usual. Most of my meals are protein and fat except for my pre- and postworkout meals, which are protein and carbs.

Sleep- 7 hours.

Go Pro is the man.....I noticed our numbers are somewhat close. You got me on pushing power, I got you on upper pulling. But I am pretty sure your deads kill just about everyone here. Nice workout!

Heya mike glad to see ya back!

Looks interesting.

As for gopro he has his own forums now strictly dedicated to prrs...something like buildingmass.com I believe.

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

soxmuscle
Hey man, long time no talk. How are your workouts coming along? And yeah, I'm hoping these workouts are a lot of fun. They're always changing so I think I'll really enjoy them.

It's good to have another deadlifter on board again.

My workouts are going rather well, I have noticed that since summer started my workouts have been thrown for a loop. However, now that I'm easing into my job and getting onto somewhat of a routine, I'm getting psyched for my new routine starting next week and the creation of it all of this week. Might be asking you for some tips.

Originally Posted by Double D

But I am pretty sure your deads kill just about everyone here.

And I saw the 655 pull on video. Mike is the real deal .

Whats up MJH. What made u decide to try this routine out? It looks like a solid routine.

Just watch some of your lifts. Good work. Will be interested to see how you go.

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

Tuesday; 6-5-2007


Horizontal Push/Pull - Power

Incline Bench Presses
3 sets of 3 with 275

Bentover DB Rows
4 sets of 4 with the 100's

Flat DB Flyes
4 sets of 6 with the 60's

CG Cable Rows
3 sets of 3 with 295

Flat DB Presses
4 sets of 4 with the 110's

Support Rows
4 sets of 5 with 190

Cable Crunches
2 sets of 15 with 175

Cardio
5 minutes of HIIT interval training on the treadmill, my intervals today looked like:

1- 3.0 MPH
2- 10.0 MPH
3- 3.0 MPH
4- 10.0 MPH
5- 3.0 MPH


Diet- The usual. Most of my meals are protein and fat except for my pre- and postworkout meals, which are protein and carbs.

Sleep- 7 hours.

This was a good workout for you, I am sure the lifts were done well within your limits. I only say that because I do feel that on some of your videos (deadlifts not withstanding) you did not use very good form in an effort to get big numbers. The dips and ghetto rows come to mind the most. Now, since you deadlift so well, I am sure your low back must be like a piece of steel by now, so you can afford to try some of these weights, but I kept getting the feeling that you were gonna snap your back on the rows, and what's with the swinging dips? you had like a half rom on those dips.

I am not trying to discredit you, but I think I do agree with one of the comments posted on one of your videos about why you aren't as jacked up as you should be, and I think a lot of it has to do with your form.

Damn my comps and the youtube not working. I wanna see

Double D
Hey man, thanks for stopping by, I appreciate the feedback. Yeah my strength is pretty strange from what I've seen. My curls aren't that much more than most people's, but my deadlifts and some of my pressing numbers seem to be pretty decent. Overall right now I'm probably at about my weakest I am all year, since I'm only weighing around 207-208 lbs. right now. But some this fall/winter, I'm looking for a 700 lbs.+ pull.

DeadBolt
Interesting, I had no idea that he created his own forum. I prefer IM personally, so I'll end up sticking around here. Hopefully he has time to check out some the P/RR/S journals that are still floating around here at IM.

soxmuscle
I would probably suggest giving Westside a try, simply because it's more of a lifestyle than it is an actual program. It's not like Max-OT where you go to the gym with a certain set of exercises / rep schemes that have to be performed, etc. It's just a broad way of training that can be modified to fit your own personal goals, etc. Now the sad part is just writing this I'm like jesus am I retarded why am I straying from Westside?

JerseyDevil
Actually to be completely honest, I didn't get the 655 lbs. deadlift video on tape! I was recording it on my cell phone like I always do, and the girl I'm seeing called me in the middle of it so it ended the video without saving! But you did see the 645 lbs. deadlift video. When I try 665 lbs. I'll make sure to get that one on video.

Gettinpumped
I've done Baby Got Back a bunch of times in the past with great results, so that was the reasoning behind the split. The P/RR/S I've tried a few times as well, but never actually finished it. So I figured that now was as good of time as any to combine these and see what happens. Although it's very very difficult to walk away from Westside. Part of me wants to say f-ck this and go do an ME or DE/RE workout today!

Mista
Thanks man, appreciate the support.

Stewart
Hey bud, I'm not sure which videos you're talking about. If you're talking about my ghetto style t-bar row form, momentum is somewhat unavoidable. If you do a search and watch Ronnie Coleman, Arnold, or anyone doing t-bar rows that style you'll see exactly what I mean. And with my dips I posted a link to +225 lbs. for a single, I'm going below a 90-degree angle in terms of depth, and locking out at the top. So I'm not too sure where you're coming from, sorry.

And the "swinging dips" is what naturally happens when you have your bodyweight hanging from your waist, lol. It's somewhat unavoidable, unfortunately. Next chest day try some bodyweight dips and see if the weight "swings" or not, lol.

My ghetto style t-bar rows:


Arnold doing ghetto style t-bar rows:


Dips with +225 lbs. for a single:


And in terms of not being as "jacked up" as I should be, lol, I'll post some attach some pictures I guess. That's the best that I can do. Given it's summer and I'm only weighing 207-208 lbs. I'm a bit more depleted than usual, but I consider myself decently "jacked up."

DontStop
Sorry to hear that, the videos work for me at every computer I've ever used.

Haha well my school blocks that website to "keep me on track"
I'll check the videos when i'm home

Small or not so big? Probably not. You are put together very well.

Nice workout M. Now when do we train arms on BBG? I wasn't sure when I was at the gym yesterday so I threw in some bicep/tricep work at the end...

And in response to the poster above about your "swinging" dips and not looking jacked up? I don't get it...not many guys at 208 pounds can have Mike's kind of build and dip at their bodyweight for a single. Looks like you were down to 90 degrees on them too..

Also, I have come to realize (and I'm sure MJH has this same mentality) that it is better to be strong, lean, and light than pumped and bloated looking, without much strength. I've been there, and when I was I felt like crap. I'd rather be lean and tight and outlift the "big" dudes that are 30 pounds heavier than me than be one any day...

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

Stewart
Hey bud, I'm not sure which videos you're talking about. If you're talking about my ghetto style t-bar row form, momentum is somewhat unavoidable. If you do a search and watch Ronnie Coleman, Arnold, or anyone doing t-bar rows that style you'll see exactly what I mean. And with my dips I posted a link to +225 lbs. for a single, I'm going below a 90-degree angle in terms of depth, and locking out at the top. So I'm not too sure where you're coming from, sorry.

And the "swinging dips" is what naturally happens when you have your bodyweight hanging from your waist, lol. It's somewhat unavoidable, unfortunately. Next chest day try some bodyweight dips and see if the weight "swings" or not, lol.

My ghetto style t-bar rows:


Arnold doing ghetto style t-bar rows:


Dips with +225 lbs. for a single:


And in terms of not being as "jacked up" as I should be, lol, I'll post some attach some pictures I guess. That's the best that I can do. Given it's summer and I'm only weighing 207-208 lbs. I'm a bit more depleted than usual, but I consider myself decently "jacked up."

You really can't compare the form of Arnold or Ronnie to our form it is an entirely different ballgame. If I did the drugs they did (do), I can get big rowing a beer can. The form you displayed on those rows just screamed too much weight to me, even for the low amount of reps you did. Throw some 35s or 25s on the bar so you can get a bigger range of motion that with the 45s.

Now, I admit that I have not done a dip with 225 pounds hanging from a belt, but I have done my bodyweight of 225ish with 160 pounds hanging from a belt for 3 sets of 3 reps, and I can tell you I did not swing like that. the weight was too heavy for you period, you don't swing wildly like that unless you are trying to harness momentum to get you up, so I do know where I am coming from on those. And you did have a shortened ROM, maybe it was acceptable in the scheme of things, but when I do a dip, I go down into a complete stretch before returning to lock out. If you have shoulder problems and can't go that low, that is fine, just don't call it an acceptable range of motion when it is a half dip.

As far as the jacked up comment, maybe that came out wrong the way I said it, but that comment on YouTube just stuck with me, that I just agreed that with some of the weights you were attempting you should have somewhat larger muscles, but perhaps you don't because you do not use the best form. It wasn't meant to be a negative, just maybe some constructive criticism

Originally Posted by M.J.H.

JerseyDevil
Actually to be completely honest, I didn't get the 655 lbs. deadlift video on tape! I was recording it on my cell phone like I always do, and the girl I'm seeing called me in the middle of it so it ended the video without saving! But you did see the 645 lbs. deadlift video. When I try 665 lbs. I'll make sure to get that one on video.

Funny, when I made that comment, I was referring to a couple of years ago during the Monstar/Saturday Fever days. I didn't realize you had a bunch of vids up on YouTube.

You still talk to Adam?

DontStop
Sounds good, the videos usually come in pretty decent quality, too.

Double D
Thanks bro, appreciate the feedback.

Gallaman
Great post, dude. I completely agree with you about everything you were saying. I would any day of the week rather be strong/lean than bigger/weaker and more bloated. And exactly my point I don't see many guys who haven't done a cycle at 208 lbs. doing ghetto style t-bar rows with 9 plates, etc. Maybe some momentum was used, but I'm more than positive I stressed my midback/lats effectively. Anyway, I responded to your question about arms in your journal, so let me know if you have anymore questions, bro.

Stewart
I'm not sure which video you're referring to. In the ones that are on my YouTube link they're all pretty good depth, and as long as I'm going all the way down past 90-degrees and locking out at the top, that's completing a one-rep. I'm not too sure what point you're trying to make, honestly. I'll continue doing dips the way that I find them most effective, proper ROM, and continue groiwng. If you took 25-30 videos of exercises that you do I can more than assure you I would be able to critique your form on certain exercises because we've just naturally always done them differently. That clearly doesn't discredit your or my lifts, IMO. Just like for example I've never locked out on push presses, and some people will say that's not "completing the rep," etc.

JerseyDevil
Thanks for stopping by, always enjoyed your comments/suggestions. Anyway, yeah I pulled a max of 635 lbs. when I stopped posted on IM before. Did Westside off and on for about 6 months, and upped my deadlift to 655 lbs. Looking forward to hopefully hitting 700 lbs. in the next 6 months or so.