Baseline- Ouch! - Pictures Don't Lie

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:22 AM

June 13th

Okay, the pictures do not lie- I have a long way to go.....

When I started really working out and getting active again I had no plan. However, thanks to a lot of quality people & information here, I am getting down to business.

These pictures show how smooth I still am- and I've lost 13 pounds beforre I felt okay about taking them- even after dropping a fairly sizeable amount of weight for me.

Here's my face- Hello all!

[IMG]TGK's face[/IMG]

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:24 AM

Some more- these are low quality because they come from my camcorder but anyway-

[IMG]Front View[/IMG]

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:25 AM

Legs- Still Kind of Skinny-

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:26 AM

Legs- Back View

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:26 AM

Upper Back

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:27 AM

Side View- Still got a Gut

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:32 AM

June 13, 2002

Height 5'7"
Weight 161
Chest 42"
Waist 33"
Neck 16.5"
Arms-tbd
Legs-tbd
BF-tbd

I am scheduling another baseline for the tbd stuff at my gym tonight.

Adding my full weekly schedule later today....

One month from now I will post some significantly improved pictures!!!!!!

rgds, TGK

Stacey · 06-13-2002, 08:48 AM

TKG~~ YOU STILL LOOK REALLY GOOD!! Stop being sooo dang hard on your self!!
It's nice to put a cute face to your name!

Fade · 06-13-2002, 08:55 AM

Not bad at all. It just takes time.

You have your eating down huh?

Yeah, hit the legs.

Hey Tank, another 5'7" for the group.

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:56 AM

Stacey-
Thanks very much! And thanks for using "DANG" in a sentence- my sister-in-law is from Dallas and one of my best friends is from Atlanta. I get a huge kick out of southern slang.

I especially like "I sure don't." Like "do you have a quarter?"
"I sure don't." For a split second you get your hopes up and bam! He sure "don't".

I love that but I still ain't got my quarter m'kay?

Tom

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 09:06 AM

Fade-
below is a sample meal from my other journal post- i am not sure how to achieve the best balance of Muscle building & Fat burning because there are so many different opinions & articles to choose from. RIght now I am doing about 2000cal./day.

At one point I was about 170 pounds and my BF% was probably half of what it is now- ideally- I'd like to be there again, but that was 10 years ago.

I'd settle for 165 and 12%BF while juggling my spousal, fatherly, and professional schedules, you know?

daily example-
**********
Sample Breakfasts- shooting for 400-500 calories
Between 7 and 8 a.m.

2 Scrambled Eggs
Slice 7 grain Toast with PB
Banana

Alternate

Bananna/Strawberry & Whey shake with Skim milk
7 Grain Toast w/ PB

Mid Morning Snack- 300 calorie target
Between 10 and 10:30 a.m.

Low Fat Yogurt
Orange/Grapefruit
Handfull of Almonds/Walnuts

Lunches - approximately 500 calories
Between 12 and 12:30 a.m.

4 Oz. Tuna w 1 Tbsp. Reg. Mayo- i could eat tuna every day of the year
2 Slices Multi-grain bread
Handfull of fresh cut veggies- carrots, cauliflower, broccoli

Afternoon Snack- 3:30- 4:00 p.m.
Some approximately 200 calorie foods- various- meal bars, fruits, nuts, drinks

Dinner 6:30-7:30 p.m.
Major Stock-up on the Fish & Chicken here- Some 400 Calorie Combination here

Baked chicken Breasts or Broiled Salmon Filets
Lentils, Carrots, & Rice or Lentil Soups
Beef Stew
Small mixed Salad- olive oil vinaigrette
Celery Sticks & Non-fat Cream cheese

Bedtime Snack
Nonfat milk & Whey Protein shake- 200 calories
************

Sosunni · 06-13-2002, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tgkfour1 in Sosunni's journal
S-

I just wanted to drop by again and say that your one month difference pictures were great! You inspired me to really take a look at where i was & where i wanted to be-

so anyway, i tool some pix, posted them up, and we'll see how much I can whittle away and tone up in 30 days!

of course, I'll never so a thong the justice you do it

be well-
tgk

Tom, Tom Tom..... thank you SO much for that!!

No one was more surprised than I was about that one month diff. TO be honest, I started this 'serious' program - eating better, drinking less and actually being consistent in March. I did exactly what you're doing... 'give me one month... JUST to see what I can do!' and Poof!! I've actually dropped about 12-15 lbs and over all 2 inches everywhere.. at least. Now, with my running that I'm learning to do, even more weight's coming off.

I knew one month wouldn't kill me and it allowed me to change some bad habits.

Glad I can be there... I'll keep an eye on you too. Being accountable is a wonderful thing!!

Welcome!

Stacey · 06-13-2002, 09:17 AM

Tom~
Your soo funny!! Oh lord, I do have a slang accent..bad!!

I'm glad you like it though!
Have a great day!

craig777 · 06-13-2002, 09:25 AM

Good luck Tom, your eating looks good to me. Just keep to it and have patience and it will work great.

Quote:

Originally posted by Princess

Stop being sooo dang hard on your self!!

Boy, isn't that ironic. You ladies can pick yourselves apart.

Fade · 06-13-2002, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tgkfour1
Fade-
below is a sample meal from my other journal post- i am not sure how to achieve the best balance of Muscle building & Fat burning because there are so many different opinions & articles to choose from. RIght now I am doing about 2000cal./day.

At one point I was about 170 pounds and my BF% was probably half of what it is now- ideally- I'd like to be there again, but that was 10 years ago.

I'd settle for 165 and 12%BF while juggling my spousal, fatherly, and professional schedules, you know?

The best way is to write down the nutritional info for about a week and see how you're really doing.

I have a food database I made for my Palm. It's linked to my daily intake DB. It automatically adds up my totals for each day.

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 09:38 AM

Fade-

That is such a simple & effective idea- thanks!

Craig-

Thanks for the support. Is the 777 like the jumbo jet? You've definitely got the lat wingspan!

cheers all....

lina · 06-13-2002, 07:50 PM

Hey Tom,

Finally can say 'hello' to a face! You don't have far to go!!! You will get there at the rate you are going! Looking good already!!! ...if not, I will haunt you and kick your booty!!! hehe

OK?

tgkfour1 · 06-13-2002, 08:18 PM

06-13-2002

Meals Today

Breakfast-
Oat Granola Bar
Bananna
Coffee/ Cream & Sugar

Mid Morn Snack
Orange

Lunch-
Portobello Mushroom
Red Roasted Peppers
Tomatoes
Fresh Mozzarella
on a toasted 1/2 Semolina Club Roll

Mid Afternoon
Bananna & Coffee

Dinner
Chicken Salad Sandwhich on Rye Bread

Agua, Agua, Agua all the live long day, but for some reason, very little bathroom trips, I felt bloated all day too ???

Evening
I just finished my cardio

25 minutes intervals-

2min warmup & alternating 1 minute intervals at 3.5mph- 4 incline and 9 incline-

I only got my heartrate into the 1-teens but this is the first day where my foot did not hurt one bit so that's good news!!!!!

I am going to kick some butt on this newer effort.

tgkfour1 · 06-14-2002, 09:56 AM

6-14-2002

So I am seeing things or something freaky is happening-

Since I took the pictures the other day (2 full days ago) I have dropped 2 pounds!!!!!

I worked out both days- once w/ weights, and yesterday I did a basic cardio interval. I am also visiting the water closet much more frequently for some reason- I think it's got to be my metabolism speeding up. How do I say this politely---- I am using and discarding my foods more quickly than ever.......

Based upon Prince's split I rest today and hit the weights tomorrow- Chest, Shoulders, Biceps to come......

Meanwhile the consistent food eating shall continue. Has anyone else had the experience of timing, counting, and measuring your food so much that the taste seems to matter less when you're cutting weight?

Stacey · 06-14-2002, 09:59 AM

HI TOM!!! CONGRATS ON THE 2Lb. loss!! YEAH!! KEEP IT UP!!!

have a good one!

tgkfour1 · 06-14-2002, 10:09 AM

P-
I sure don't know how ta thank you darlin'
Tom

lina · 06-17-2002, 07:42 AM

How was your weekend? And your wife? Any news?

Let's see those workouts and menus....

Have a good one Tom!!!!!

tgkfour1 · 06-17-2002, 08:58 AM

Friday-

30 Minutes interval cardio- did a hill program on my treadmill at home- again no foot pain.

I ate like a bird today- only got in about 1500 calories of my normal 2000. I missed my supplements and protiens shakes too!!

I was on the road early preparing for Father's day weekend. We had two of my wife's brothers up on saturday & sunday for lots of fun, food, and children running around!! All of my son's cousins (8 grandchildren) are under six so it was controlled chaos all weekend- but in a really great way........

Saturday-

Another tough day of activity- keeping me from eating really well. My meal spacings were off. Had very little food except for breakfast & dinner.

Golfed with my father and brother-in-law. I used to be a very good golfer, but the return of mucle and tone has changed my game a bit. i am not as flexible in the back & arms so my direction was affected. Whatever, i'd rather be in shape.....

Sunday Night-

Chest, Shoulders, Back

Chest- Flat Bench, incline bench- warmup sets, 4 sets each

Shoulders- Military Press, Compound Raises- Front, Side, Rear (4 moves in one total rep. i felt like I was literally going to cry when I finished...)

Biceps- Concentration Curls- Dumbbells- warmup set, 3 sets each side
Straight Barbell- warmup set, 3 sets
Dumbbell Curls- alternating sides to failure- 10 pounds

My wife & I found crumbs this morning in the sunlight where we could have sworn we already cleaned up.........

tgkfour1 · 06-18-2002, 08:49 AM

I blew off cardio last night because my wife was having lower back pain- the kind that precedes contractions and a baby!!!???

But, no such luck-

Tonight Legs, Legs, Legs!!! I will be busting up my little toothpicks tonight.

I am already visualizing the pulverization of my Quads, The tension and Flexion of my Hams, The merciless Burning of my Soleus and Gastrocnemeus.....

One of the kind souls at my gym may have to carry me to the car....Will I be able to use the gas & break pedals????

3 weeks and 4 days to the 1 month pictures.....

2 Weeks to the Due Date of Number 2..........

naturaltan · 06-18-2002, 09:09 AM

hey ... it's a face to put with the name.

Tom ... as the others have said, don't be so hard on yourself. And the best part is that you're not happy about how you look, so you're changing it!! Keep up the good work!!

tgkfour1 · 06-18-2002, 09:21 AM

NT-
Thanks man....... I already see some difference between my Picture day and today. There is nothing like a picture. Our self-images are usually very different.

Like, I am so good looking and fit in my mind

..... but the pictures do not lie.

I was a female sasquatch- big, hairy man boobs and all.

I am coming back though!!!

naturaltan · 06-18-2002, 09:31 AM

I'm not sure what your thoughts are about using actual weight numbers, but always tell most that the weight number isn't really important ... it's about how you feel about yourself when you look in the mirror.

My goal for living a healthier lifestyle was to gain some weight. At first ... I weighted myself constantly. After I while I got disappointed. So I turned to just taking note of how I looked. I saw changes much more quickly than I did with my weight. After about 2 months, I weighed myself to find that I have put on 3 pounds. The only number I have in my head is being a solid 165lbs. Being a boxing fanatic, I always like how Marvin Hagler looked. He was the middle weight champion forever. He had a wife back and was solid. That is the look I'm after - which I'm close to ...

06-13-2002, 08:22 AM	#1
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Baseline- Ouch! - Pictures Don't Lie June 13th Okay, the pictures do not lie- I have a long way to go..... When I started really working out and getting active again I had no plan. However, thanks to a lot of quality people & information here, I am getting down to business. These pictures show how smooth I still am- and I've lost 13 pounds beforre I felt okay about taking them- even after dropping a fairly sizeable amount of weight for me. Here's my face- Hello all! [IMG]TGK's face[/IMG]
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:24 AM	#2
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Some more- these are low quality because they come from my camcorder but anyway- [IMG]Front View[/IMG]
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:25 AM	#3
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Legs- Still Kind of Skinny-
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:26 AM	#4
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Legs- Back View
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:26 AM	#5
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Upper Back
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:27 AM	#6
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Side View- Still got a Gut
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:32 AM	#7
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	June 13, 2002 Height 5'7" Weight 161 Chest 42" Waist 33" Neck 16.5" Arms-tbd Legs-tbd BF-tbd I am scheduling another baseline for the tbd stuff at my gym tonight. Adding my full weekly schedule later today.... One month from now I will post some significantly improved pictures!!!!!! rgds, TGK
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 08:48 AM	#8
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,589 Photos: 23	TKG~~ YOU STILL LOOK REALLY GOOD!! Stop being sooo dang hard on your self!! It's nice to put a cute face to your name!
	I Believe in the Impossible!!!

06-13-2002, 08:55 AM	#9
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	Not bad at all. It just takes time. You have your eating down huh? Yeah, hit the legs. Hey Tank, another 5'7" for the group.

06-13-2002, 08:56 AM	#10
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Stacey- Thanks very much! And thanks for using "DANG" in a sentence- my sister-in-law is from Dallas and one of my best friends is from Atlanta. I get a huge kick out of southern slang. I especially like "I sure don't." Like "do you have a quarter?" "I sure don't." For a split second you get your hopes up and bam! He sure "don't". I love that but I still ain't got my quarter m'kay? Tom
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 09:06 AM	#11
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Fade- below is a sample meal from my other journal post- i am not sure how to achieve the best balance of Muscle building & Fat burning because there are so many different opinions & articles to choose from. RIght now I am doing about 2000cal./day. At one point I was about 170 pounds and my BF% was probably half of what it is now- ideally- I'd like to be there again, but that was 10 years ago. I'd settle for 165 and 12%BF while juggling my spousal, fatherly, and professional schedules, you know? daily example- ******** Sample Breakfasts- shooting for 400-500 calories Between 7 and 8 a.m. 2 Scrambled Eggs Slice 7 grain Toast with PB Banana Alternate Bananna/Strawberry & Whey shake with Skim milk 7 Grain Toast w/ PB Mid Morning Snack- 300 calorie target Between 10 and 10:30 a.m. Low Fat Yogurt Orange/Grapefruit Handfull of Almonds/Walnuts Lunches - approximately 500 calories Between 12 and 12:30 a.m. 4 Oz. Tuna w 1 Tbsp. Reg. Mayo- i could eat tuna every day of the year 2 Slices Multi-grain bread Handfull of fresh cut veggies- carrots, cauliflower, broccoli Afternoon Snack- 3:30- 4:00 p.m. Some approximately 200 calorie foods- various- meal bars, fruits, nuts, drinks Dinner 6:30-7:30 p.m. Major Stock-up on the Fish & Chicken here- Some 400 Calorie Combination here Baked chicken Breasts or Broiled Salmon Filets Lentils, Carrots, & Rice or Lentil Soups Beef Stew Small mixed Salad- olive oil vinaigrette Celery Sticks & Non-fat Cream cheese Bedtime Snack Nonfat milk & Whey Protein shake- 200 calories **********
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 09:17 AM	#13
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,589 Photos: 23	Tom~ Your soo funny!! Oh lord, I do have a slang accent..bad!! I'm glad you like it though! Have a great day!
	I Believe in the Impossible!!!

06-13-2002, 09:38 AM	#16
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Fade- That is such a simple & effective idea- thanks! Craig- Thanks for the support. Is the 777 like the jumbo jet? You've definitely got the lat wingspan! cheers all....
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-13-2002, 07:50 PM	#17
lina It's a Wonderful Life!!! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lounging around... Posts: 2,797	Hey Tom, Finally can say 'hello' to a face! You don't have far to go!!! You will get there at the rate you are going! Looking good already!!! ...if not, I will haunt you and kick your booty!!! hehe OK?

06-13-2002, 08:18 PM	#18
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	06-13-2002 Meals Today Breakfast- Oat Granola Bar Bananna Coffee/ Cream & Sugar Mid Morn Snack Orange Lunch- Portobello Mushroom Red Roasted Peppers Tomatoes Fresh Mozzarella on a toasted 1/2 Semolina Club Roll Mid Afternoon Bananna & Coffee Dinner Chicken Salad Sandwhich on Rye Bread Agua, Agua, Agua all the live long day, but for some reason, very little bathroom trips, I felt bloated all day too ??? Evening I just finished my cardio 25 minutes intervals- 2min warmup & alternating 1 minute intervals at 3.5mph- 4 incline and 9 incline- I only got my heartrate into the 1-teens but this is the first day where my foot did not hurt one bit so that's good news!!!!! I am going to kick some butt on this newer effort.
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-14-2002, 09:56 AM	#19
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	6-14-2002 So I am seeing things or something freaky is happening- Since I took the pictures the other day (2 full days ago) I have dropped 2 pounds!!!!! I worked out both days- once w/ weights, and yesterday I did a basic cardio interval. I am also visiting the water closet much more frequently for some reason- I think it's got to be my metabolism speeding up. How do I say this politely---- I am using and discarding my foods more quickly than ever....... Based upon Prince's split I rest today and hit the weights tomorrow- Chest, Shoulders, Biceps to come...... Meanwhile the consistent food eating shall continue. Has anyone else had the experience of timing, counting, and measuring your food so much that the taste seems to matter less when you're cutting weight?
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-14-2002, 09:59 AM	#20
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,589 Photos: 23	HI TOM!!! CONGRATS ON THE 2Lb. loss!! YEAH!! KEEP IT UP!!! have a good one!
	I Believe in the Impossible!!!

06-14-2002, 10:09 AM	#21
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	P- I sure don't know how ta thank you darlin' Tom
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-17-2002, 07:42 AM	#22
lina It's a Wonderful Life!!! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lounging around... Posts: 2,797	How was your weekend? And your wife? Any news? Let's see those workouts and menus.... Have a good one Tom!!!!!

06-17-2002, 08:58 AM	#23
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	Friday- 30 Minutes interval cardio- did a hill program on my treadmill at home- again no foot pain. I ate like a bird today- only got in about 1500 calories of my normal 2000. I missed my supplements and protiens shakes too!! I was on the road early preparing for Father's day weekend. We had two of my wife's brothers up on saturday & sunday for lots of fun, food, and children running around!! All of my son's cousins (8 grandchildren) are under six so it was controlled chaos all weekend- but in a really great way........ Saturday- Another tough day of activity- keeping me from eating really well. My meal spacings were off. Had very little food except for breakfast & dinner. Golfed with my father and brother-in-law. I used to be a very good golfer, but the return of mucle and tone has changed my game a bit. i am not as flexible in the back & arms so my direction was affected. Whatever, i'd rather be in shape..... Sunday Night- Chest, Shoulders, Back Chest- Flat Bench, incline bench- warmup sets, 4 sets each Shoulders- Military Press, Compound Raises- Front, Side, Rear (4 moves in one total rep. i felt like I was literally going to cry when I finished...) Biceps- Concentration Curls- Dumbbells- warmup set, 3 sets each side Straight Barbell- warmup set, 3 sets Dumbbell Curls- alternating sides to failure- 10 pounds My wife & I found crumbs this morning in the sunlight where we could have sworn we already cleaned up.........
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-18-2002, 08:49 AM	#24
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	I blew off cardio last night because my wife was having lower back pain- the kind that precedes contractions and a baby!!!??? But, no such luck- Tonight Legs, Legs, Legs!!! I will be busting up my little toothpicks tonight. I am already visualizing the pulverization of my Quads, The tension and Flexion of my Hams, The merciless Burning of my Soleus and Gastrocnemeus..... One of the kind souls at my gym may have to carry me to the car....Will I be able to use the gas & break pedals???? 3 weeks and 4 days to the 1 month pictures..... 2 Weeks to the Due Date of Number 2..........
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-18-2002, 09:09 AM	#25
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	hey ... it's a face to put with the name. Tom ... as the others have said, don't be so hard on yourself. And the best part is that you're not happy about how you look, so you're changing it!! Keep up the good work!!
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

06-18-2002, 09:21 AM	#26
tgkfour1 Future Opportunity Join Date: May 2002 Location: In A House Posts: 250	NT- Thanks man....... I already see some difference between my Picture day and today. There is nothing like a picture. Our self-images are usually very different. Like, I am so good looking and fit in my mind ..... but the pictures do not lie. I was a female sasquatch- big, hairy man boobs and all. I am coming back though!!!
	IRON Poet Laureate Man is basically Good- Locke Man is basically Evil- Hobbes Who was paying attention to the women back then?- TGKFour

06-18-2002, 09:31 AM	#27
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	I'm not sure what your thoughts are about using actual weight numbers, but always tell most that the weight number isn't really important ... it's about how you feel about yourself when you look in the mirror. My goal for living a healthier lifestyle was to gain some weight. At first ... I weighted myself constantly. After I while I got disappointed. So I turned to just taking note of how I looked. I saw changes much more quickly than I did with my weight. After about 2 months, I weighed myself to find that I have put on 3 pounds. The only number I have in my head is being a solid 165lbs. Being a boxing fanatic, I always like how Marvin Hagler looked. He was the middle weight champion forever. He had a wife back and was solid. That is the look I'm after - which I'm close to ...
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger