my wife finally got me try this, once

the other half · 07-18-2007, 10:11 PM

just finished doing bi's. back is still sore, now my arms are sore also!!!

hammer curls-seated
45-6
52.5-6
55-7

standing bar curl
90-8
100-8
80-10

seated preacher bar
65-10
75-10
65-16
i was slacking-so i was told

the other half · 07-18-2007, 11:01 PM

stats:

6 ft-205
need help on my legs, and calves. genetics suck. thanks dad!!!!!
currently w/o 4 times a week doing each part once. then 1 whole body,
with just i set per body part.
diet isnt as good as it should be, but hopefully good enough to help put some mass on.

current cycle-3 weeks in-test,anadrol,dianabol.

starting weight was 195

**calalily1972** · 07-18-2007, 11:03 PM

Welcome to IM

I'm glad Katt got you to join us!

JerseyDevil · 07-19-2007, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other half

current cycle-3 weeks in-test,anadrol,dianabol.

Welcome!

Two orals at the same time is a really bad idea. Dbol the first 3-4 weeks, then anadrol the last 3 weeks, but not together.

the other half · 07-19-2007, 08:21 AM

hello jodi, thanks for the welcome!!!!

thank u for the advice, jersey. i got this stack from a friend that is big in power lifting, figured he knew what the hell he was talking about. no bad effects yet.

w/o for today-shoulders
db press neutral grip
w/u 45-8
50-8
60-8
70-2
60-3

cable up rite rows
using flexolater straps
120-8
140-8
160-8-can go heavier next time

side lat raises
27.5-8
30-8
32.5-6 keeping decent form

lying lat raises-using bar bell
40-8
45-8
50-8

rev flys-thumbs down
25-10
27.5-8
30-8

still a pretty tight in the middle of the back and the traps from yesterday.
pretty good w/o, got a good pump
now to get my daughter up and head to the mountians, and spend a good father-daughter day.

the other half · 07-19-2007, 08:15 PM

jersey, why is it so bad to use two orals at the same time?

JerseyDevil · 07-19-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other half

jersey, why is it so bad to use two orals at the same time?

Katt told you to ask me that, didn't she?

As I'm sure you know, oral steroids are very hard on the liver. Anadrol is one of the worst. Dianabol is also. I guess if you used half doses of each then it wouldn't matter, but I get the feeling you were recommended full doses of each... OR you misunderstood your friends advice. Dbol is typically used to jumpstart a cycle because it takes injectables about 4 weeks to kick in. Anadrol is used as icing on the cake to finish out a cycle.

I suggest posting your cycle and dosages in the anabolic forum. I am no expert, and I quit doing androgens about 3 years ago, so I am rusty. Just the fact you are asking means you need to do more research and not just rely on a friend's advice. Whoever recommended Katt's cycle of primo and anavar was right on (I don't know the dosages though), for a woman.

katt · 07-19-2007, 08:55 PM

Hey Jers...

I'm taking 5 mg of the anavar - morning & night
25 mg of the primo in the morning... I'm really thinking of upping that to a whole tab - 50 mg a day

Sorry for busting in on my hubby's thread

the other half · 07-20-2007, 06:51 PM

how rude to bust in on my thread, id kick u butt if i thought i could.

jersey, we got our advice from the same person. but i will go and check out the proper way of taking this stack. thanks agian for the input. thats how we learn, besides the hard way.

Stewart14 · 07-20-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other half

stats:

6 ft-205
need help on my legs, and calves. genetics suck. thanks dad!!!!!
currently w/o 4 times a week doing each part once. then 1 whole body,
with just i set per body part.
diet isnt as good as it should be, but hopefully good enough to help put some mass on.

current cycle-3 weeks in-test,anadrol,dianabol.

starting weight was 195

you wanna see some shitty calves, take a look at mine. Absolutely pathetic, even when I trained them, just small, flat and God awful, so I have given up hope on them. People see my calves in shorts and think I have stick legs with this huge upper body, then I pull the shorts up past my knees, and then they're like "wow, you have got the biggest legs with the smallest calves I have ever seen"....true story

Archangel · 07-20-2007, 07:16 PM

Best Wishes to you Brother Half!!!

Triple Threat · 07-20-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart20

then I pull the shorts up past my knees, and then they're like "wow, you have got the biggest legs with the smallest calves I have ever seen"....true story

Would you rather have bulging calves with skinny thighs? I think that would look worse.

Stewart14 · 07-20-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Would you rather have bulging calves with skinny thighs? I think that would look worse.

well, no

the other half · 07-21-2007, 04:29 PM

well i dont have either, so i'm just really screwed!!!!

saturday morning w/o
squats
135-8
185-10
205-10
225-12
romanian dl
135-10
185-11
225-12
split squats
25-10
30-10
35-15-left leg-13-right leg
angled leg press-feet high
270-15
360-15
450-15
ext.
225-10
240-9
255-7
leg curl
150-10
160-10
170-6
adduction mach
120-15
130-15
140-15-bump up the weights
abduction mach
100-4-hip cramp
80-12
90-12
100-10
seated calves-4 second pause at top
70-15/12/10
standing calves-4 sec pause
11-12/10/7

to much fun for me. i hope i dont have to go into the basement for anything today. i will probably fall down the stairs

b_reed23 · 07-23-2007, 03:09 AM

hi!! I just started visiting Katts journal....so I'll check yours out from time to time too!

SamEaston · 07-23-2007, 07:30 AM

Hello there! You have a hard act to follow, Katts journal is amazing!

Sounds like your training is going well though!

the other half · 07-23-2007, 08:41 AM

hello b & sam, thank u for coming to my thread. not quite as exciting as katt's, but i will try to keep it somewhat interesting. she really is a hard act to follow, and even worse to put up with sometimes.

had to work all weekend while she played(doing housework, and yard work that i didnt do on my days off), got to the gym this morning for a chest w/o , it felt really good, but the tri's where just a little pooped out by the time we got to them.

incline bar bench
w/u135-8
185-8
205-6
215-4

flat bench
185-8
205-5
215-5

pec deck
150-8
160-7
170-7

skull crushers
90-8
100-8
110-6
s/s with close grip
bench-
90-8
100-8
110-6

dips bw
9-5-4

ran short on time. its hard to get it all done in less than 50 minutes.

SamEaston · 07-23-2007, 09:21 AM

You seem to make a great team! I hope for that too someday!

the other half · 07-24-2007, 08:54 AM

thanks sam, we have our moments at the gym, but that is usually when one of us is trying to motivate the other, and they dont wont to b motivated, gets a little pissy sometimes. but she is the best w/o partner i have ever had, and the best looking.

4:20 came way to early today. didnt want to get out of bed.
today was back and bi's

pull ups
8/4/4

seated pull downs
reverse grip
130-8
150-8
160-8

h.s. iso row.
95-8
115-8
160-10r-9l

dumbbell pull overs
55-10
65-10
75-10
up the weights next time

seated incline db
42.5-8
45-8
50-5

straight bar curl
80-8
90-8
80-10

s/s

wrist curls
front and back
50-20/10
80-10/8
70-12/10

forearms feel like they are going to split open, making it really hard to
do the last set of bar curls.
its my friday so that is a good thing, i can rest the body alittle over the
next few days.

katt · 07-25-2007, 10:11 AM

oh, so you have two log on names.... nice.......

Need to watch that when you make dirty comments to me

the other half · 07-25-2007, 10:29 AM

leg day suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hack squats
w/u230-8
270-8
320-10
360-12

one legged seat
press
255-10
295-8
315-10
both legs-315-25
great burn

one legged hammer curl
70-8
80-8
90-r9-l8

glute machine
100-10
105-10
110-10

seated angled calf
200-12
200-18
160-15-4 sec rest at top

the other half · 07-26-2007, 09:50 AM

shoulder day

db press
55-8
60-8
65-8

side lat s/s w front raises
22.5-8 22.5-8
25-8 25-8
27.5-8 27.5-6

rev pec deck
100-8
110-8
120-10

hyper xtension
45-15x3

shrugs
290-10
340-10
380-10

feeling very tired-i think we need a day off tomorrow

katt · 07-26-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other half

feeling very tired-i think we need a day off tomorrow

You're tired????? After that workout????

Maybe you need to eat more!

the other half · 07-26-2007, 11:35 AM

oh bite me!!!!!!!!!

Triple Threat · 07-26-2007, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katt

You're tired????? After that workout????

Maybe you need to eat more!

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other half

oh bite me!!!!!!!!!

This is great! Reminds me of the days when w8 and mmafiter would go at it.

katt · 07-26-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other half

oh bite me!!!!!!!!!

the other half · 07-28-2007, 09:23 PM

sat-7/28
leg day

front squats
w/u 95-8
135-8
165-8
185-6-hamstring pain
115-6

bulgarian squats
25-8
30- ouch-im a sissy

angled leg press
low position
180-10
230-10
270-12

sldl-forza machine
230-10
270-8
270-8

standing calf
#10-12/10/11

hammer strength
calf
70-20/14/11

shitty work out.

the other half · 07-29-2007, 08:16 PM

sunday 7-29

incline db press
w/u55-10
65-10
75-10
85-8

db bench
70-10
80-8
90-6

cable cross overs
70-10
80-8
85-8

decline flys
45-10
50-8
55-10

i dont think that we are going to make it back to the gym tonite

**P-funk** · 07-29-2007, 09:13 PM

what is the SLDL Forza-machine? I have never heard of this piece of equipment before.

the other half · 07-30-2007, 03:32 PM

p-funk, it is a company out of spokane, washington, and they build a line i think for power lifting and strength. we dont have a lot of their machines, but they are nice. this one u just load weights on the side and have handles to grip on the inside. it can be used either as a straight leg dead lift, or for shrugs.

07-18-2007, 11:01 PM	#2
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	stats: 6 ft-205 need help on my legs, and calves. genetics suck. thanks dad!!!!! currently w/o 4 times a week doing each part once. then 1 whole body, with just i set per body part. diet isnt as good as it should be, but hopefully good enough to help put some mass on. current cycle-3 weeks in-test,anadrol,dianabol. starting weight was 195 "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-19-2007, 08:21 AM	#5
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	hello jodi, thanks for the welcome!!!! thank u for the advice, jersey. i got this stack from a friend that is big in power lifting, figured he knew what the hell he was talking about. no bad effects yet. w/o for today-shoulders db press neutral grip w/u 45-8 50-8 60-8 70-2 60-3 cable up rite rows using flexolater straps 120-8 140-8 160-8-can go heavier next time side lat raises 27.5-8 30-8 32.5-6 keeping decent form lying lat raises-using bar bell 40-8 45-8 50-8 rev flys-thumbs down 25-10 27.5-8 30-8 still a pretty tight in the middle of the back and the traps from yesterday. pretty good w/o, got a good pump now to get my daughter up and head to the mountians, and spend a good father-daughter day. "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-19-2007, 08:15 PM	#6
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	jersey, why is it so bad to use two orals at the same time? "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-20-2007, 06:51 PM	#9
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	how rude to bust in on my thread, id kick u butt if i thought i could. jersey, we got our advice from the same person. but i will go and check out the proper way of taking this stack. thanks agian for the input. thats how we learn, besides the hard way. "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-20-2007, 07:16 PM	#11
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,532 Photos: 4	Best Wishes to you Brother Half!!! "I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13 "For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

07-18-2007, 10:11 PM	#1
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	my wife finally got me try this, once just finished doing bi's. back is still sore, now my arms are sore also!!! hammer curls-seated 45-6 52.5-6 55-7 standing bar curl 90-8 100-8 80-10 seated preacher bar 65-10 75-10 65-16 i was slacking-so i was told "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-18-2007, 11:03 PM	#3
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Welcome to IM I'm glad Katt got you to join us!

07-19-2007, 08:55 PM	#8
katt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,576 Photos: 37	Hey Jers... I'm taking 5 mg of the anavar - morning & night 25 mg of the primo in the morning... I'm really thinking of upping that to a whole tab - 50 mg a day Sorry for busting in on my hubby's thread

07-21-2007, 04:29 PM	#14
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	well i dont have either, so i'm just really screwed!!!! saturday morning w/o squats 135-8 185-10 205-10 225-12 romanian dl 135-10 185-11 225-12 split squats 25-10 30-10 35-15-left leg-13-right leg angled leg press-feet high 270-15 360-15 450-15 ext. 225-10 240-9 255-7 leg curl 150-10 160-10 170-6 adduction mach 120-15 130-15 140-15-bump up the weights abduction mach 100-4-hip cramp 80-12 90-12 100-10 seated calves-4 second pause at top 70-15/12/10 standing calves-4 sec pause 11-12/10/7 to much fun for me. i hope i dont have to go into the basement for anything today. i will probably fall down the stairs "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-23-2007, 03:09 AM	#15
b_reed23 this is why I'm hot! Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Tennessee Posts: 5,348 Photos: 39	hi!! I just started visiting Katts journal....so I'll check yours out from time to time too! My Journal!

07-23-2007, 08:41 AM	#17
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	hello b & sam, thank u for coming to my thread. not quite as exciting as katt's, but i will try to keep it somewhat interesting. she really is a hard act to follow, and even worse to put up with sometimes. had to work all weekend while she played(doing housework, and yard work that i didnt do on my days off), got to the gym this morning for a chest w/o , it felt really good, but the tri's where just a little pooped out by the time we got to them. incline bar bench w/u135-8 185-8 205-6 215-4 flat bench 185-8 205-5 215-5 pec deck 150-8 160-7 170-7 skull crushers 90-8 100-8 110-6 s/s with close grip bench- 90-8 100-8 110-6 dips bw 9-5-4 ran short on time. its hard to get it all done in less than 50 minutes. "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-24-2007, 08:54 AM	#19
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	thanks sam, we have our moments at the gym, but that is usually when one of us is trying to motivate the other, and they dont wont to b motivated, gets a little pissy sometimes. but she is the best w/o partner i have ever had, and the best looking. 4:20 came way to early today. didnt want to get out of bed. today was back and bi's pull ups 8/4/4 seated pull downs reverse grip 130-8 150-8 160-8 h.s. iso row. 95-8 115-8 160-10r-9l dumbbell pull overs 55-10 65-10 75-10 up the weights next time seated incline db 42.5-8 45-8 50-5 straight bar curl 80-8 90-8 80-10 s/s wrist curls front and back 50-20/10 80-10/8 70-12/10 forearms feel like they are going to split open, making it really hard to do the last set of bar curls. its my friday so that is a good thing, i can rest the body alittle over the next few days. "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-25-2007, 10:11 AM	#20
katt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,576 Photos: 37	oh, so you have two log on names.... nice....... Need to watch that when you make dirty comments to me

07-25-2007, 10:29 AM	#21
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	leg day suck!!!!!!!!!!!!! hack squats w/u230-8 270-8 320-10 360-12 one legged seat press 255-10 295-8 315-10 both legs-315-25 great burn one legged hammer curl 70-8 80-8 90-r9-l8 glute machine 100-10 105-10 110-10 seated angled calf 200-12 200-18 160-15-4 sec rest at top "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-26-2007, 09:50 AM	#22
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	shoulder day db press 55-8 60-8 65-8 side lat s/s w front raises 22.5-8 22.5-8 25-8 25-8 27.5-8 27.5-6 rev pec deck 100-8 110-8 120-10 hyper xtension 45-15x3 shrugs 290-10 340-10 380-10 feeling very tired-i think we need a day off tomorrow "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-26-2007, 11:35 AM	#24
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	oh bite me!!!!!!!!! "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-28-2007, 09:23 PM	#27
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	sat-7/28 leg day front squats w/u 95-8 135-8 165-8 185-6-hamstring pain 115-6 bulgarian squats 25-8 30- ouch-im a sissy angled leg press low position 180-10 230-10 270-12 sldl-forza machine 230-10 270-8 270-8 standing calf #10-12/10/11 hammer strength calf 70-20/14/11 shitty work out. "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-29-2007, 08:16 PM	#28
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	sunday 7-29 incline db press w/u55-10 65-10 75-10 85-8 db bench 70-10 80-8 90-6 cable cross overs 70-10 80-8 85-8 decline flys 45-10 50-8 55-10 i dont think that we are going to make it back to the gym tonite "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

07-29-2007, 09:13 PM	#29
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,701	what is the SLDL Forza-machine? I have never heard of this piece of equipment before. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-30-2007, 03:32 PM	#30
the other half loyal fan since 1972 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northwest Posts: 1,511 Photos: 6	p-funk, it is a company out of spokane, washington, and they build a line i think for power lifting and strength. we dont have a lot of their machines, but they are nice. this one u just load weights on the side and have handles to grip on the inside. it can be used either as a straight leg dead lift, or for shrugs. "katt's spotter" " its not how much u can benchpress. its how much other people think u can." bob chicherillo

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