My Quest for 405

JerseyDevil · 07-25-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewart20

thanks guys, but I've got a ways to go before I catch DD and Archie on the squats. Maybe with benching you can get away with beast ,but not on the leg stuff

If it looks like a beast, walks like a beast, and most of all.... smells like a beast, then you ARE a beast.

I will be watching this new program Stewart

katt · 07-25-2007, 08:52 PM

Maybe you should consider the name change

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by katt

Maybe you should consider the name change

Hmm...maybe after I bench my 405

AKIRA · 07-26-2007, 08:26 AM

How about Stewart420

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

How about Stewart420

Ooooh, you might be on to something there.....OR just plain on something

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 08:38 AM

All this beast and 420 talk is motivating me, I might use tomorrows bench session as my max out day to see where I'm at, assuming I can get somewhat of a decent night's sleep. My son has a croup cough and yeah, I haven't slept more than 3 hours the past two nights. I really felt it in my workout yesterday too, very sluggish, I actually layed on the floor after my leverage squat set for like 10 minutes, and I couldn't get up, hehe...

If I do it, I don't expect to get much more than the 365 I got the last time I tried, IF that much, but we'll see. I somehow am now around 10 pounds lighter than when I tried the last time, so strength might be down a bit, I will make sure to eat a LOT between now and tomorrow though

soxmuscle · 07-26-2007, 08:46 AM

It's not like 365 is chump change.. ha

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

It's not like 365 is chump change.. ha

well no you're right, but I expect more from myself that's all

Burner02 · 07-26-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewart20

I don't expect to get much more than the 365

okie dokie S420.... (just trying it on for size..)
now....you know lifting is 90% mental...<insert joke of choice here>
now...if you go in thinking that...guess what...you get out what you put in. If you DON'T expect it...then you are right...you WON'T get it. So...EXPECT to get at LEAST 375.
You've been my friend and told me to lock it up and just do it...well mi amigo...it's my turn.

just fuqqin DO IT.
(that will be the lifter's version of the Nike slogan)

Burner02 · 07-26-2007, 09:31 AM

..oh my short term goal...if you are interested..is to have all major lifts back up to 3 plates.
I can already dead it...squat isn't too far off...and bench..well..that will take a little while...but I WILL get there..and be able to do at least sets of 5 w/ that weight....mil press...be happy when I can press 2 plates...

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

..oh my short term goal...if you are interested..is to have all major lifts back up to 3 plates.
I can already dead it...squat isn't too far off...and bench..well..that will take a little while...but I WILL get there..and be able to do at least sets of 5 w/ that weight....mil press...be happy when I can press 2 plates...

Those are some nice goals to shoot for there, I have 0 doubt you can do all of those goals, probably sooner than you think

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner02

okie dokie S420.... (just trying it on for size..)
now....you know lifting is 90% mental...<insert joke of choice here>
now...if you go in thinking that...guess what...you get out what you put in. If you DON'T expect it...then you are right...you WON'T get it. So...EXPECT to get at LEAST 375.
You've been my friend and told me to lock it up and just do it...well mi amigo...it's my turn.

just fuqqin DO IT.
(that will be the lifter's version of the Nike slogan)

hmm, so you want me to try for 375 tomorrow if I attempt it eh??? Hmmm, we shall see

Burner02 · 07-26-2007, 10:37 AM

no..I want you to just fuqqin do it!
Get your head into the game, brotha!

as the saying goes: whether you think you can or can't...you are right.

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

no..I want you to just fuqqin do it!
Get your head into the game, brotha!

as the saying goes: whether you think you can or can't...you are right.

yeah, well I can tell myself all I want that I'm gonna do it, visualize the weight going up like a feather, smack myself in the face a few times before the lift and all, but it still won't do me any good if I bring the bar down and get pinned by it!!

Burner02 · 07-26-2007, 10:50 AM

all I'm saying, mi amigo...is that if that ewight is acheivable for you...and it most likely is...get it in your mind..and make make it happen.
At my stage now..if I were to try and put up 3 plates...i'd get pinned. However...I know I can do 275 w/ spotter for 3 reps...if I get in my head to go for 4...just do it.

kind of weird of late....I usually gauge how my workouts are gonna go by how heavy the bar 'feels'...well...the other day...even the 135 felt 'heavy'...but afer I unracked it..w/ just a small thought of: hhmm..this feels heavy...I'd bring it down..annd just exploded it back up...all the way up to my 245 sets...'dam...this feels kinda heavy...aww...fuq it'

AKIRA · 07-26-2007, 12:11 PM

Id say to get a baseline too. I mean, lets say you never get 405, which I doubt, but if your max is set at 350, lets say, and you lift 390lbs in 4 weeks. Thats 10lbs a week and should earn reasonable credit.

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 12:15 PM

10 pounds a week ain't gonna happen at these weights. Once you hit your max, you are REALLY lucky if you could get a 5 pound increase the next week. When you hover around your max, a fricken feather landing on the bar could make or break the lift.

and you would need to have pretty much optimal nutrition, and optimal rest from week to week if you even want a shot at 10 pound increases per week, and we all know I am NOT going to at least get the rest part

AKIRA · 07-26-2007, 01:09 PM

I was just using it as an example, not a means to an end. I meant to give yourself credit if your first max, your baseline, increases even 20lbs, you gotta pat yourself on the back.

Ive never gone through a strict bench program, so i really really want to see how effective those westside workouts are.

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

I was just using it as an example, not a means to an end. I meant to give yourself credit if your first max, your baseline, increases even 20lbs, you gotta pat yourself on the back.

Ive never gone through a strict bench program, so i really really want to see how effective those westside workouts are.

I wasn't really using a westside program when I benched 365. I don't know what I was doing at the time, I just decided to max out and hit 365.

Even now, I've decided against westside and I am planning on using a hybrid of a routine I saw from a powerlifter on another board with my own spin on it. Only one max per week on one of the big three lifts and it rotates, so that if I go for a max bench tomorrow lets say, next week I will max squat and then the following week I will max DL, and then repeat.

will it work? Who the hell knows, we shall see.

I am going for a sports massage tomorrow at noon. I can't wait. If I get some decent sleep tonight, then get a good massage, I may just get 375 tomorrow

Stewart14 · 07-26-2007, 04:26 PM

July 26

Extra workout

DB curls
50 x 10
50 x 10

Shoulder prehab
2 rounds, assorted movements

Burner02 · 07-26-2007, 04:47 PM

nice! I can still do...50lb swings...

Triple Threat · 07-26-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Burner02

nice! I can still do...50lb swings...

Do those count?

JerseyDevil · 07-27-2007, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart20

I may just get 375 tomorrow

Good luck on 375. You can do it!

AKIRA · 07-27-2007, 09:14 AM

I cant wait to see these results. Really I cant.

Stewart14 · 07-27-2007, 09:22 AM

July 27

Max Bench Test Day

Bench Press
135 x 8
225 x 5
275 x 2
315 x 1
375 x miss
370 x miss
365 x miss
Done---FUCK!! I am really pissed off...

Well, I learned a very valuable lesson today. My sticking point is 3-4 inches off my chest. Lockout shouldn't be an issue. So, lots more low end work and I think it might be time to reintroduce speed work for all my lifts, so I can work on driving through the sticking point. FUCK!!!

Wide grip bench press (index finger on rings)
225 x 6
245 x 6
265 x 6

close grip bench press
275 x 4
275 x 4

Chest supported rows
180 x 6
180 x 6
180 x 6
180 x 6

Burner02 · 07-27-2007, 09:38 AM

hey! You tried...you found a flaw...reassess..and reattack!

AKIRA · 07-27-2007, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart20

July 27

Max Bench Test Day

Bench Press
135 x 8
225 x 5
275 x 2
315 x 1
375 x miss
370 x miss
365 x miss
Done---FUCK!! I am really pissed off...

Well, I learned a very valuable lesson today. My sticking point is 3-4 inches off my chest. Lockout shouldn't be an issue. So, lots more low end work and I think it might be time to reintroduce speed work for all my lifts, so I can work on driving through the sticking point. FUCK!!!

Wide grip bench press (index finger on rings)
225 x 6
245 x 6
265 x 6

close grip bench press
275 x 4
275 x 4

Chest supported rows
180 x 6
180 x 6
180 x 6
180 x 6

MMMMmmm. I am a bit surprised you jumped from 315 to 375 right from the start. Thats 60lbs. I know why you did it though, but now we still dont know your max. Is it above 315? Yeah, Id say so, but we dont know.

When I looked for my max, I did about 10 sets. I got to 315 and I did 2 reps, then I continued up in 10lb, 1 rep intervals. I stopped at 360 cuz 365 wasnt going anywhere, but that may have been cuz of fatigue. You going right for the gold avoids fatigue, yes, but its still 60lbs.

Its up to you and your confidence, but Id say to try this again when you feel up to it. Cuz of right now, 315 is your max? Puh-lease. Cant have that shit. You do it again and get a max of 340-360, then at least it will be a better peace of mind and a more realistic 405 goal.

Stewart14 · 07-27-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

MMMMmmm. I am a bit surprised you jumped from 315 to 375 right from the start. Thats 60lbs. I know why you did it though, but now we still dont know your max. Is it above 315? Yeah, Id say so, but we dont know.

When I looked for my max, I did about 10 sets. I got to 315 and I did 2 reps, then I continued up in 10lb, 1 rep intervals. I stopped at 360 cuz 365 wasnt going anywhere, but that may have been cuz of fatigue. You going right for the gold avoids fatigue, yes, but its still 60lbs.

Its up to you and your confidence, but Id say to try this again when you feel up to it. Cuz of right now, 315 is your max? Puh-lease. Cant have that shit. You do it again and get a max of 340-360, then at least it will be a better peace of mind and a more realistic 405 goal.

Eh, I am not really worried. I felt good on my 315 rep, so I said why the hell not. I would guess that 350+ would have went up had i tried that first instead of 375. I just had a sports massage and honestly I feel fricken amazing right now, I wouldnt be surprised if I try this again later today

Burner02 · 07-27-2007, 01:45 PM

did u get the 'happy ending' massage? Seems like a lot of that is going around...might have to look into this...
was'sup, Stew!
Plans for the weekend?

Archangel · 07-27-2007, 06:54 PM

Keep your chin up and heart light Brother 20, that was your first attempt and I have NO doubt that the next time you will HIT it!!! Your sticking point is exactly where mine is, no problem in lockout here either!!! What I did was use DB's and go w/a parallel grip, go wide at the bottom and really squeeze and explode up!!! Don't really know much but it worked for me!!! Best Wishes and enjoy the weekend, hope your child gets better soon!!!

07-26-2007, 08:26 AM	#64
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	How about Stewart420 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

07-26-2007, 08:38 AM	#66
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,604 Photos: 2	All this beast and 420 talk is motivating me, I might use tomorrows bench session as my max out day to see where I'm at, assuming I can get somewhat of a decent night's sleep. My son has a croup cough and yeah, I haven't slept more than 3 hours the past two nights. I really felt it in my workout yesterday too, very sluggish, I actually layed on the floor after my leverage squat set for like 10 minutes, and I couldn't get up, hehe... If I do it, I don't expect to get much more than the 365 I got the last time I tried, IF that much, but we'll see. I somehow am now around 10 pounds lighter than when I tried the last time, so strength might be down a bit, I will make sure to eat a LOT between now and tomorrow though http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

07-26-2007, 08:46 AM	#67
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	It's not like 365 is chump change.. ha Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

07-26-2007, 09:31 AM	#70
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,642	..oh my short term goal...if you are interested..is to have all major lifts back up to 3 plates. I can already dead it...squat isn't too far off...and bench..well..that will take a little while...but I WILL get there..and be able to do at least sets of 5 w/ that weight....mil press...be happy when I can press 2 plates... Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

07-26-2007, 10:37 AM	#73
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,642	no..I want you to just fuqqin do it! Get your head into the game, brotha! as the saying goes: whether you think you can or can't...you are right. Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

07-25-2007, 08:52 PM	#62
katt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,576 Photos: 37	Maybe you should consider the name change

07-26-2007, 10:50 AM	#75
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,642	all I'm saying, mi amigo...is that if that ewight is acheivable for you...and it most likely is...get it in your mind..and make make it happen. At my stage now..if I were to try and put up 3 plates...i'd get pinned. However...I know I can do 275 w/ spotter for 3 reps...if I get in my head to go for 4...just do it. kind of weird of late....I usually gauge how my workouts are gonna go by how heavy the bar 'feels'...well...the other day...even the 135 felt 'heavy'...but afer I unracked it..w/ just a small thought of: hhmm..this feels heavy...I'd bring it down..annd just exploded it back up...all the way up to my 245 sets...'dam...this feels kinda heavy...aww...fuq it' Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

07-26-2007, 12:11 PM	#76
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	Id say to get a baseline too. I mean, lets say you never get 405, which I doubt, but if your max is set at 350, lets say, and you lift 390lbs in 4 weeks. Thats 10lbs a week and should earn reasonable credit. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

07-26-2007, 12:15 PM	#77
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,604 Photos: 2	10 pounds a week ain't gonna happen at these weights. Once you hit your max, you are REALLY lucky if you could get a 5 pound increase the next week. When you hover around your max, a fricken feather landing on the bar could make or break the lift. and you would need to have pretty much optimal nutrition, and optimal rest from week to week if you even want a shot at 10 pound increases per week, and we all know I am NOT going to at least get the rest part http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

07-26-2007, 01:09 PM	#78
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	I was just using it as an example, not a means to an end. I meant to give yourself credit if your first max, your baseline, increases even 20lbs, you gotta pat yourself on the back. Ive never gone through a strict bench program, so i really really want to see how effective those westside workouts are. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

07-26-2007, 04:26 PM	#80
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,604 Photos: 2	July 26 Extra workout DB curls 50 x 10 50 x 10 Shoulder prehab 2 rounds, assorted movements http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

07-26-2007, 04:47 PM	#81
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,642	nice! I can still do...50lb swings... Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

07-27-2007, 09:14 AM	#84
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 8,787 Photos: 3	I cant wait to see these results. Really I cant. 6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

07-27-2007, 09:22 AM	#85
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,604 Photos: 2	July 27 Max Bench Test Day Bench Press 135 x 8 225 x 5 275 x 2 315 x 1 375 x miss 370 x miss 365 x miss Done---FUCK!! I am really pissed off... Well, I learned a very valuable lesson today. My sticking point is 3-4 inches off my chest. Lockout shouldn't be an issue. So, lots more low end work and I think it might be time to reintroduce speed work for all my lifts, so I can work on driving through the sticking point. FUCK!!! Wide grip bench press (index finger on rings) 225 x 6 245 x 6 265 x 6 close grip bench press 275 x 4 275 x 4 Chest supported rows 180 x 6 180 x 6 180 x 6 180 x 6 http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

07-27-2007, 09:38 AM	#86
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,642	hey! You tried...you found a flaw...reassess..and reattack! Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

07-27-2007, 01:45 PM	#89
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,642	did u get the 'happy ending' massage? Seems like a lot of that is going around...might have to look into this... was'sup, Stew! Plans for the weekend? Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

07-27-2007, 06:54 PM	#90
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,529 Photos: 4	Keep your chin up and heart light Brother 20, that was your first attempt and I have NO doubt that the next time you will HIT it!!! Your sticking point is exactly where mine is, no problem in lockout here either!!! What I did was use DB's and go w/a parallel grip, go wide at the bottom and really squeeze and explode up!!! Don't really know much but it worked for me!!! Best Wishes and enjoy the weekend, hope your child gets better soon!!! "I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13 "For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

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