My Quest for 405

yellowmoomba · 08-31-2007, 12:45 PM

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475 x 1
That was super tough, but I got the fucker up.

Nice work

Deads and Squats.................

Stewart14 · 08-31-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

Nice work

Deads and Squats.................

You ain't kidding, what the hell was I thinking??

Oh, I wanted to add that my BW this morning was 215, so I have effectively lost 10 pounds from about around the 4th of july till now, and I hit a DL personal best at this lighter weight, so that's cool.

Of course, the funny thing is, my benching is actually suffering, while my lower body work is improving at each session. I guess it's hard to have it all.

Duncans Donuts · 08-31-2007, 02:21 PM

Your workouts look great and your lifts are very impressive.

Stewart14 · 08-31-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

Your workouts look great and your lifts are very impressive.

Thanks DD, my biggest enemy right now is consistency, once I find that, I believe I will be deadly. I am just too far all over the place with my workouts.

I do really like going for the one rep max stuff though, so I am trying to find a happy medium between doing max lifts, and also keeping up some stuff for general size and strength

yellowmoomba · 08-31-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewart20

You ain't kidding, what the hell was I thinking??

Oh, I wanted to add that my BW this morning was 215, so I have effectively lost 10 pounds from about around the 4th of july till now, and I hit a DL personal best at this lighter weight, so that's cool.

Of course, the funny thing is, my benching is actually suffering, while my lower body work is improving at each session. I guess it's hard to have it all.

I wouldn't worry about your benching. You said you wanted to be more balanced

You are getting there.

Duncans Donuts · 08-31-2007, 02:50 PM

I know your goal is a 405 bench press, but remember the pectoralis is significantly less important than your hams, quads and lats. It is vastly more important to focus on those three group ahead of the other.

I'm so tired of seeing people who are push dominant when it's effectively the least important of the "major" groups. Your deadlift is fantastic, thats the lift that matters. And your bench press is great, anyway.

Stewart14 · 08-31-2007, 03:23 PM

well you guys are right, I am definitely getting more balanced. I admit that I was, and pretty much still am a push dominant person, but that's also because I didn't do a deadlift or a squat pretty much until about 3 years ago, and I have been lifting for close to 10 now.

It is pretty annoying to struggle with 295 on squats, when I use that as a warmup pretty much on my benching. I hope to have the same neural efficiency I have with my benching and push muscles with my pulling and leg muscles. I tell myself I WILL get there someday, you know, to not fear a 295 squat cause I know it's a cake walk, like I feel about a 295 bench now.

My pulling strength as a whole is climbing, and I am pretty psyched about that, I mean, 4 plate chest supported rows were only a dream even as lately as a year ago, and weighted pullups and chinups, yep, I was happy to do one pullup a couple of years ago!

JerseyDevil · 08-31-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

I'm so tired of seeing people who are push dominant when it's effectively the least important of the "major" groups. Your deadlift is fantastic, thats the lift that matters. And your bench press is great, anyway.

Great post Duncan, and right on. I'm one of those fools that usually focuses on push, but I know true strength comes from the back, hams and glutes. By Christmas this year, at the age of 52, I WILL be pulling 425 for a deadlift max.

Stewart14 · 08-31-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Great post Duncan, and right on. I'm one of those fools that usually focuses on push, but I know true strength comes from the back, hams and glutes. By Christmas this year, at the age of 52, I WILL be pulling 425 for a deadlift max.

Folks, you heard it here first!

JerseyDevil · 08-31-2007, 07:22 PM

Damn straight!

Double D · 08-31-2007, 07:27 PM

Good to know JD. I like Duncans post as well, he is right on. I still would like to see a 405 bench Stew!

Stewart14 · 09-01-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Good to know JD. I like Duncans post as well, he is right on. I still would like to see a 405 bench Stew!

you might wanna try looking elsewhere for that

Triple Threat · 09-02-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewart20

you might wanna try looking elsewhere for that

Does that mean the quest is off?

Stewart14 · 09-02-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Does that mean the quest is off?

well not technically. I just have been feeling achy lately and the max stuff obviously aggravates it.

Plus, lately I have really been loving squats and deads for some reason, and the benching is suffering, which is fine, cause it is true it is the least important out of the big 3.

Plus, I think I will be working out by "feel" for a while as opposed to a "routine", cause I don't know what the hell to do anymore.

Stewart14 · 09-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Sept. 2

Squats
295 x 8

SLDL
275 x 10

Leverage Squats
8 plates x 8 (rp) x 4

Glute-ham raises
BW+20 x 7 (rp) x 2

*Squats felt great, even though I did 3 heavy sets of squats on Friday, I still increased the reps on this set, I am pleased with that.

Stiff legs felt great too, that might be a PR for reps at that weight for me.

The rest pause on the lev. squats almost made me lose breakfast, but I kept it together, and the ghr's kinda sucked, too much weight I think, they are hard to get the form perfect, especially on my cheesy home bench. I wish I had access to a real deal leg curl machine, I miss leg curls.

yellowmoomba · 09-02-2007, 01:43 PM

Nice work on the Squats and SLDLs

Are you going to squat 405 too ??

Stewart14 · 09-02-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

Nice work on the Squats and SLDLs

Are you going to squat 405 too ??

yeah right.....one step at a time big guy

JerseyDevil · 09-02-2007, 07:12 PM

Stewart WILL get the 405 bench! I said it before, and I will say it again... I never even lifted a weight until I was 33. I increased my max on bench from like 115 to 320. I think Stewart can manage a 50 lb increase in the next 18-20 years

. Trust me guys, just because you get older does not mean you can't get stronger. Endurance is what drops off, not necessarily strength.

Triple Threat · 09-02-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

Are you going to squat 405 too ??

You would think that squatting 405 would be easier than benching it.

Stewart14 · 09-03-2007, 12:01 PM

Sept 3

DB Bench Press
125s x 7

DB Shoulder Press
80s x 9

Dips
BW+135 x 8 (DS) BW x 10

Close Grip Bench Press
275 x 5 (RP) x 2

Db bench felt good, tough, but good.

Shoulder press felt easy too, I did these seated today cause I was in my basement and didn't feel like lugging the dbs outside to do standing. Failed halfway up on the 10th rep.

Dips were amazing. Of course, only being able to do 10 BW dips after the heavy set was interesting, cause I know I can do close to 40+ if I did that first.

Close grip bench was disappointing, I guess my tris were fried already from the other stuff.

Have to give some credit to Duncans Donuts for some ideas for this latest workout.

yellowmoomba · 09-03-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

You would think that squatting 405 would be easier than benching it.

yellowmoomba · 09-03-2007, 02:29 PM

Nice Dips you SOB!!

Stewart14 · 09-03-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

Nice Dips you SOB!!

Why thank you, I impressed myself on that set actually, I just threw 3 plates on my belt and said what the hell, and that's what happened, not too shabby.

Because I did so well, I treated myself to a new 46 inch samsung LCD tv, the thing is a beast, full 1080p and all. Actually, it wasn't cause of the dips it was a present to myself for having to watch my son now every day, I figure if I am gonna go nuts every day, I might as well do it in style

I can't wait to watch a hockey or football game on this animal!! My PS3 was unbelievable on it, the real games are probably just sick, and I already have a 50 inch sony rear projection lcd and this TV just blows it ot of the water. It sucks that I am into video games, cause the price of plasmas are just so low right now, but I can't risk having the burn in issue on a plasma with the games, so I went with lcd.

JerseyDevil · 09-03-2007, 06:35 PM

I bought a Sony 40" Bravia 1080p LCD last December...... never regretted the decision. Sweet, sweet, sweet. This year, gotta make the BluRay or DVD-HD decision

. TV looks great in 1080i, but 1080p is incredible.

Be sure to watch Florida State/Clemson in HD tonight!

Stewart14 · 09-05-2007, 11:21 AM

sept 5

Rack Pulls
435 x 5

Chest Supported Rows
180 x 8

Chinups
BW+65 x 6 (DS) BW x 6

Barbell Curls
135 x 5
135 x 4

Lean away pulldowns
165 x 8 (RP) x 4
*free weight home machine...

Rack pulls were tough today, a lot tougher than the last time I did them.

Chest rows went ok, I used a different grip than normal today, and still got to 8, so that was cool.

Curls were too heavy, I wanted to make it equally as difficult as the close grip bench press exercise, and I did a good job, only problem was I couldn't do any more reps with a rest pause on the curls like I planned, so I did two sets after a bit more of rest.

lean away pulldowns are self explanatory, more like a row than a pulldown.

Chinups were a disappointment, especially the drop set part, WTF>?

Triple Threat · 09-05-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewart20

sept 5

Rack Pulls
435 x 5

Chest Supported Rows
180 x 8

Chinups
BW+65 x 6 (DS) BW x 6

Chinups were a disappointment, especially the drop set part, WTF>?

Perhaps you were worn out from the rack pulls and rows?

Stewart14 · 09-05-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Perhaps you were worn out from the rack pulls and rows?

Maybe, or I have a sneaking suspicion that it was cause I was really rushing through the chins. Here's why. My home gym is in my basement with the exception of my chinup station because of height limitations, so that is in my garage. I had my son down in the basement with me, and when it was time to do the chins, I took a deep breath, ran outside to the garage, strapped the weights to my dip belt, and banged out the sets. So if I had more time to concentrate, maybe they would have been better, or maybe I am just not as strong at them as I thought I was

JerseyDevil · 09-05-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

Be sure to watch Florida State/Clemson in HD tonight!

But did you watch the game! Since it was a marquee game, the hi def quality was one of the best I've seen in a live event.

Stewart14 · 09-05-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

But did you watch the game! Since it was a marquee game, the hi def quality was one of the best I've seen in a live event.

sorry to say i didn't, I really am not too into college sports to be honest, I have a thing against kids who get to go to college for free AND play a sport when half of them probably are dumber than my left pinky, and yet I still have over $10000 to pay in student loans, but I digress...

I watched the US Open in high def, that was nice too. I have been doing a lot of calibrating on the TV to find a setting that I like, I really love turning the backlight all the way up, but I hear that uses a shitload of energy and shortens the life of the TV, so I pretty much am playing around with 50% backlight and the energy saving mode on medium. It is darker, but still, the colors are still just so vivid on this thing compared to my other TV, I think I could watch hours of horses shitting as long as it is in HD!

JerseyDevil · 09-05-2007, 08:15 PM

You did digress, cuz that was a super hi def pic, and you said yourself you could have watched a horseshit eating contest (or something like that

).

Our panels are close to the same, Samsung and Sony have a joint venture in LCD panels. The electronics and video processors are different though. I have the backlight turned way down, "Picture" way up, and brightness about half way. You really shouldn't have the backlight turned up unless there is a lot of ambient light in your room. In a dark room, you can almost turn it off.

Have you looked at the avsforum? You have to sift thru the bs, but there is lot of great info. LCD Flat Panel Displays - AVS Forum

08-31-2007, 02:21 PM	#213
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,776 Photos: 2	Your workouts look great and your lifts are very impressive. "in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

08-31-2007, 02:50 PM	#216
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,776 Photos: 2	I know your goal is a 405 bench press, but remember the pectoralis is significantly less important than your hams, quads and lats. It is vastly more important to focus on those three group ahead of the other. I'm so tired of seeing people who are push dominant when it's effectively the least important of the "major" groups. Your deadlift is fantastic, thats the lift that matters. And your bench press is great, anyway. "in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

08-31-2007, 03:23 PM	#217
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,606 Photos: 2	well you guys are right, I am definitely getting more balanced. I admit that I was, and pretty much still am a push dominant person, but that's also because I didn't do a deadlift or a squat pretty much until about 3 years ago, and I have been lifting for close to 10 now. It is pretty annoying to struggle with 295 on squats, when I use that as a warmup pretty much on my benching. I hope to have the same neural efficiency I have with my benching and push muscles with my pulling and leg muscles. I tell myself I WILL get there someday, you know, to not fear a 295 squat cause I know it's a cake walk, like I feel about a 295 bench now. My pulling strength as a whole is climbing, and I am pretty psyched about that, I mean, 4 plate chest supported rows were only a dream even as lately as a year ago, and weighted pullups and chinups, yep, I was happy to do one pullup a couple of years ago! http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

09-02-2007, 01:01 PM	#225
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,606 Photos: 2	Sept. 2 Squats 295 x 8 SLDL 275 x 10 Leverage Squats 8 plates x 8 (rp) x 4 Glute-ham raises BW+20 x 7 (rp) x 2 *Squats felt great, even though I did 3 heavy sets of squats on Friday, I still increased the reps on this set, I am pleased with that. Stiff legs felt great too, that might be a PR for reps at that weight for me. The rest pause on the lev. squats almost made me lose breakfast, but I kept it together, and the ghr's kinda sucked, too much weight I think, they are hard to get the form perfect, especially on my cheesy home bench. I wish I had access to a real deal leg curl machine, I miss leg curls. http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

09-02-2007, 01:43 PM	#226
yellowmoomba YM Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,283 Photos: 2	Nice work on the Squats and SLDLs Are you going to squat 405 too ?? http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...-bag-work.html "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

08-31-2007, 07:22 PM	#220
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	Damn straight!

08-31-2007, 07:27 PM	#221
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,459 Photos: 1	Good to know JD. I like Duncans post as well, he is right on. I still would like to see a 405 bench Stew!

09-02-2007, 07:12 PM	#228
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	Stewart WILL get the 405 bench! I said it before, and I will say it again... I never even lifted a weight until I was 33. I increased my max on bench from like 115 to 320. I think Stewart can manage a 50 lb increase in the next 18-20 years . Trust me guys, just because you get older does not mean you can't get stronger. Endurance is what drops off, not necessarily strength.

09-03-2007, 12:01 PM	#230
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,606 Photos: 2	Sept 3 DB Bench Press 125s x 7 DB Shoulder Press 80s x 9 Dips BW+135 x 8 (DS) BW x 10 Close Grip Bench Press 275 x 5 (RP) x 2 Db bench felt good, tough, but good. Shoulder press felt easy too, I did these seated today cause I was in my basement and didn't feel like lugging the dbs outside to do standing. Failed halfway up on the 10th rep. Dips were amazing. Of course, only being able to do 10 BW dips after the heavy set was interesting, cause I know I can do close to 40+ if I did that first. Close grip bench was disappointing, I guess my tris were fried already from the other stuff. Have to give some credit to Duncans Donuts for some ideas for this latest workout. http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

09-03-2007, 02:29 PM	#232
yellowmoomba YM Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,283 Photos: 2	Nice Dips you SOB!! http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...-bag-work.html "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

09-03-2007, 06:35 PM	#234
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	I bought a Sony 40" Bravia 1080p LCD last December...... never regretted the decision. Sweet, sweet, sweet. This year, gotta make the BluRay or DVD-HD decision . TV looks great in 1080i, but 1080p is incredible. Be sure to watch Florida State/Clemson in HD tonight!

09-05-2007, 11:21 AM	#235
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,606 Photos: 2	sept 5 Rack Pulls 435 x 5 Chest Supported Rows 180 x 8 Chinups BW+65 x 6 (DS) BW x 6 Barbell Curls 135 x 5 135 x 4 Lean away pulldowns 165 x 8 (RP) x 4 *free weight home machine... Rack pulls were tough today, a lot tougher than the last time I did them. Chest rows went ok, I used a different grip than normal today, and still got to 8, so that was cool. Curls were too heavy, I wanted to make it equally as difficult as the close grip bench press exercise, and I did a good job, only problem was I couldn't do any more reps with a rest pause on the curls like I planned, so I did two sets after a bit more of rest. lean away pulldowns are self explanatory, more like a row than a pulldown. Chinups were a disappointment, especially the drop set part, WTF>? http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

09-05-2007, 08:15 PM	#240
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,586	You did digress, cuz that was a super hi def pic, and you said yourself you could have watched a horseshit eating contest (or something like that ). Our panels are close to the same, Samsung and Sony have a joint venture in LCD panels. The electronics and video processors are different though. I have the backlight turned way down, "Picture" way up, and brightness about half way. You really shouldn't have the backlight turned up unless there is a lot of ambient light in your room. In a dark room, you can almost turn it off. Have you looked at the avsforum? You have to sift thru the bs, but there is lot of great info. LCD Flat Panel Displays - AVS Forum

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