Rissole

Hmmmm "found to cause cancer in lab rats" ????

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kuso

Everything causes cancer in one way or another

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Rissole

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True i spose
Goin to bed mate its like almost 11.00 and i have sore legs

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kuso

See ya tomorrow

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lina

Hey peetrip,

Just a comment about your menu

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Kuso, brilliant!! Oatmeal would be a great sub for your muslie. I think those are usually premade with sugar and fat. Not that fat is bad but that kind is..saturated.

Lamb chops are high in fat, stick to chicken, tuna, fish, turkey breast, lean beef, egg whites, whole eggs, protein powder for your protein sources.

Carbs examples:baked potatoes, sweet potatoes, brown rice, cream of rice, oatmeal, and these you may have to limit or eliminate: kidney and lima beans, lentils, and peas.

J'Bo

Why are you a lab rat?

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....and thats my $.02
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Leslie

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I thought sweet n low caused cancer----Splenda too?

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Rissole

Thanks Lina.

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Half my problem is educating my wife as well. She'd only just got the swing of the last diet and now its changing again which is made worse by the fact that she really doesnt want me to do this comp (guess i'll have to start cooking a bit myself eh)
I'm going over my diet this weekend to count up my calories and work out Protien, carb, fat % Thats a whole new ball game as well!!

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Rissole

Thankyou darling (he says sarcasticly)

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J'Bo

No problem PT.
By the way isn't this supposed to be a daily journal?
Get posting boy, we wanta see some entries.

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Hope all is going well.
I bet you are getting into the swing of things just fine.

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....and thats my $.02
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lina

Prime example of the quote: " behind every successful man is.... a woman" She must get at least half the credit when you walk outa there with the trophy man! She must be a special lady!!! BTW, nice family pic

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Rissole

Sorry J'Bo i was only gonna do every second day for starters but as i got closer go to every day. But what the hey looks like i got a couple of beautiful young ladies to help me so whatever.
Thanks Lina, Tracey (wife) is a full legend, and she'll get more than half the credit even if i dont get a trophy (and the chance to feel this awesome rock hard body

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Anyway yesterdays eat was:

1. 4 egg whites
2 whole eggs (just for Kuso

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2 slices whole meal bread
Shake (making all shakes with water now)

2. 200g l/f yogurt (i know i didn't have anything else 'starving')
2 peaches

3. Footlong subway sub (chicken, under 6g fat )

4. Lamb roast
( i could feel the fat sticking to the top of my mouth

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Vegis

5. Shake
Hand full of cashew nuts (are they ok?)

Creatine/ green barley at lunch
Muliti Vitamin
8x Flax caps
6ltrs Water

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Twin Peak

PT, at the risk of being overly critical, if you are serious about doing a show your diet is, day after day, way off. You have been given some good advice by others already and there is plenty more to be had in this forum, but your diet is not really even close to a precontest diet. Of course you could be one of the rare individuals who can eat whatever they want and get down to 4-5% BF. If you are, all they power to you. If you aren't I suggest that you get yourself a good PRE-CONTEST diet and stick to it. Remember you'll be standing on stage in the smallest piece of clothing you've probably ever worn!

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Fade

Good morning Pee

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J'Bo

I agree with TP, but not so harshely.
You need a better program, that diet will only work for very few people (none of which i know). There are alotof people to help you here, but this diet is so far off anything i have ever learnt. All your meals are high saturated fats and high GI foods, am i wrong but doesnt this make for adding BF? We can all help you if you will just take some advice. We want you in the best condition you can be for this show, but not going to happen this way.

....and thats my $.02
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Twin Peak

I was more harsh than this? If so sorry. Wasn't intending to be mean, just a wake up call unless you are one of those special people!

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J'Bo

I wasn't intending to be harsh either, just said what i know. We are concerned about how we feel about eachothers posts, what will PT say when he reads our posts?

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lina

Well you both have competed before and know what it takes...that there is time but not that much time, right? So it IS critical that the REAL diet begins soon and you both are looking in for his best interest and because you care!!!

So I wouldn't feel bad...



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Rissole

Well this is what i'm gonna say!!
I have got the utmost respect for you guys and what you have said BUT i haven't spoken to my trainer yet,like i have already said. That is happening today, and he is going to give me my new diet plan then.
I 'have' listened to what you've said, i don't have dairy products (except for yogurt yesterday i had nothing else to eat) iv'e been drinking 6 ltrs of water a day much to my duress and nobodys told me why yet, the pissings beyond a joke!!

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Maybe i started this journal i bit early, i have been losing bf from this diet about 8% in 6 months (with no cardio) and i was happy with that cause summer wasn't for another 6 mths but now i'm doin this comp so i have to shape up eh!!
As far as standing in front of people with skank amounts of clothing thats got me packin the darkies for more resons than i would like to mention

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Don't worry when i get my diet i will stick to it 100%
I was just thinking to myself last night how many things i've done or tried in my life and most of them i feel i have failed, this is a bit of a last ditch effort for me to try and do something great with myself

I don't think any of you guys are mean. I agree with Lina in that you are lookin out for my best interest. Where could you possibly go and find such an awesome bunch of people that are willing to go out of thier way to help you and i really dont know you guys from a bar of soap. It's kinda weird but you guys are like a mini family to me so any smack up side the head bring em on (although, if you were my real Bro you'd get a smack back)

It's hard with the wife to cause she dont want me to do this and changing the diet on her again is givin her the shits so i'm tryin to get her into it slowly (you girls yould know what its like you gotta cook for yourself and the kids and then something different for him)

So don't bail on me guys i need you in so many ways September will be the proof of the pudding ok!!

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I'm aiming at 3%

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Good morning Fade

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getting a wax next week ssshhhh

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J'Bo

Remember that although you lost 8% in 6 monthes, garantee that those last 6% will be hundreds times harder to lose.

I am glad you are getting a diet plan soon. Don't do what i did and leave dieting to the last minute, believe me its a bitch.

Stick with the water, i was pissed (haha what a pun) about it at first but it really makes a difference in the end. Super hydrate your body and you will rid of excess protein toxins and keep your bodies metabolism a burning. It is very easy for me to drink 6 liters now. Its contest day so i gotta go, you think drinking it is hard? wait til you cant drink? HAhaha. Ever try to get liquid out of turkey breast?

....and thats my $.02
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Rissole

Well thats about it
Thankyou J'Bo for taking your time on your comp day to check my thread
I got my diet plan last night and by the looks of it none of you would like it too much And to be honest i'm gonna go with it.
I sat down with Micks wife last night and she showed me photos of him in his last comp

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He was far and above more ripped than any other guy there. He had a shot of his butt and it looked like 2 loaves of sliced bread lol

I gotta trust this guy implicably (he has the results to make me feel that way) we have become real close friends and spoke openly about me not even competing

The plan was to stick to my new diet for another 4 weeks and asess my changes. In about three weeks there is a competitors meeting and we have made that the deadline for the go ahead or not

I dont know what else i can say but thanks for your help if you want me to keep posting i will, thats up to you guys.
Love yaz heaps

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kuso

No reason to stop now bud!!!

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Keep POSTING!!!!!

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Post your new diet etc.......we may not agree with it, but if it does indeed work we may all just learn a thing or two

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No matter how different it is, I`m sure there are still people here that could still offer some advice with some aspects of your preparation

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Rissole

Thanks mate i'll put the full spread up tonight.
Havin a sleep now (and a root if i'm lucky lol

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: ) last night was very late and i probably shouldn't have driven home

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kuso

Good to see you have your priorities in order

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J'Bo

Go for it then.
Everyone has a different idea of the "perfect" diet, you just have to find one that your body responds to best.
Trying a diet that is high in sugar and simple carbs when you have alot of BF to lose and not much time. is very risky though.
Good luck, and lets see that diet plan.

....and thats my $.02
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Rissole

Ok dont say i didnt warn ya!!

1. Three cheese cakes with wipped cream

2. 6 Cream buns and a giant hot chocolate

3. Sorry cant keep going lol

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Really this time
Variations
1.
Muliti vit
Flax 20ml
Rolled oats 125g Natural muesli
150ml l/f milk
P40 protien shake
Fruit
= 884 cals
4x wholemeal bread, 1x whole egg, 5x white
2.
Cottage cheese 250gL/f yogurt
6x rice cakesAll Bran
fruit
=604 cals

3.
Green barly/creatine
200g Tuna
280 Pasta (wholemeal) Brown rice
Heaps of salad
Fruit
=730cals Baked beans

4.
P40 protien shake
4x wholemeal breadFruit
2 teaspoons jam
= 597cals

5.
Lean chicken breast
500g vegis
flax 5ml
=398cals

6.
P40 protien shake
=160cals

Total calories = 3373

Told you so

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I worked out my cals before they were at about 3500
Base meal is for a workout day variations are for a non w/o day those cals drop to about 2600
I'm also walking for 45mins 6 mornings a week.

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Twin Peak

Looks interesting. I am glad to see you got some advice. The key certainly is to get some experience advice and trust it. So why don't you post some before and after pics? You'll need to do them for yourself anyway especially as the comp gets close!

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Rissole

I'm going to monitor my b/f and weight every 2nd day as well
These pics were taken on the 4th of May will have new ones next week

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Twin Peak

Looking forward to seeing the progress. So is your training and experienced poser -- its tough to get them all down!

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lina

Hey peetrips,

Good name for you now, now that you are drinking all that water! I know most of us won't agree with your diet, but if that's what you gonna go with we'll support you... Heck, you may, but I highly doubt, to be one of those rare species that will do well with this diet and actually belong in a lab for disection!

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j/k

As long as your diet doesn't have vegimite, ok?

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