Comp in Sept?? Will he be ready??

Rissole · 07-03-2002, 07:58 PM

Oh yeah forgot about that I'll tell you my changes tomorrow

w8lifter · 07-03-2002, 08:00 PM

Peetrips...just read your entire journal. Yes, you need help

First...your trainer looks awesome...however, his diet sucks. He is putting you on a calorie restricted diet....he will continually drop your calories every couple of weeks w/o any regard to meal composition....he's already got you doing 45 min cardio daily this far out....the combination will leave you weak early on in your cut, and you will loose LBM...GUARANTEED!

I can tell you the dairy, fruit (some), rice cakes, pasta, bread, & jam will all prolong your cut and stall fat loss each time you eat them. This diet is lacking in EFA's and Fibre. I am not a pro BB by any means...but this is not the first time I've told a pro their diet sucks...(ask j'bo). This diet may work for him, hell it may even work for you (though I doubt it), but at what expense?

I think you have the discipline to stick to a proper pre-comp diet, just lack the nutritional knowledge to put one together or see what's "good" and what's "bad". I am returning your pm now

BTW...the extra water will flush toxins (as j'bo mentioned), keep your kidneys happy due to the protein (anyone eating a high-protein diet should ensure adequate water levels) and will serve to dry you out...you'll hold less water, you will appear leaner...you might need some chapstick, and you might consider taking an extra multi-mineral everyday to ensure a healthy balance of electrolytes.

Rissole · 07-03-2002, 08:14 PM

Thankyou w8 i was just pming you as you posted that i think
I'm ready to listen to what youv'e got to say I'll have to talk to the wife as well first though
Once again thanks for your time w8!!

J'Bo · 07-03-2002, 11:02 PM

Peehead, i mean peetrips (sorry i just think i am funny tonight).
Glad you are heading in the right direction. I think that the above list is good, but it may not all be aceptable given the short amount if time you have to lose bf. Just listen to team DPw8 and they will show you the way. Post your food asap i am curious to see what you are eatin boy. Dont forget to let us know how your feeling that day too.

Rissole · 07-03-2002, 11:47 PM

Oh she cares about me

Yeah girl really funny!!

(have you been drinking??)
I might have a bit of a rough time talkin the wife into the DPw8 deal but i'll give it a shot!
My next hurdle will be on Monday i have to go to a conference in Sydney for the week, gonna take some planning.
I have been eating that terrible diet that you saw before, i've been sticking to it like 100% (boring!!) but thats what i'm like (not boring, just a stickler to that kind of stuff)
How's the dinner 1 chicken breast and 500gs of vegies then like 20mins later i'm starving... its a bitch.
I make myself go to bed early so i can have my protien shake lol!

kuso · 07-03-2002, 11:54 PM

Peeps....what made you decide to change the diet that he gave you??

Rissole · 07-04-2002, 12:39 AM

I did a quick protien/carb/fat level check on his diet and the carbs seemed really high, when you got a website full of b/bs who compete saying that the diet sucks it kinda makes you wonder....

I still may not be able to do the DPw8 deal cause me and Trace (wife) are pretty strapped for cash (trying to save for our home deposit) but i can still listen to the common sense things like rice cakes and cottage cheese and... and....
We'll just see how we go eh...

J'Bo · 07-04-2002, 12:10 PM

It really isnt that taxing on the pocket. Rice cakes and yogurt and the previous diet you were on sounds like alot more money than this one. Here are some tips: Buy everything in bulk if you can (brown rice, chicken, and eggs). Ask a local baker if he would be willing to sell you eggs for cheap if you were to return the yolks. I know some restaurants around here love that. Tuna is always cheaper in case loads and ask bb around you where they go to get their protein powders, usually they have a little pharmacy that has great prices. We have a pharmacy that sells powder at sometimes 40% lower than big company stores. This is not a cheap sport but there are ways around all the high costs. I know i am cheapy. You may want to ask the meat and dairy board if they would be interested in sponsoring you, when they see a determined athlete they usually jump at the chance. Tell them its a tax free write off as well, they love that one. Have a good one.

w8lifter · 07-04-2002, 12:48 PM

J'bo...I think he was talking about the consulting fee, lol...nice tips though

J'Bo · 07-04-2002, 02:21 PM

Oh i see.
Here i go being space headish again.
How long out from comp are you PT?
I think it is only 3 monthes?
It will be worth every penny.

Rissole · 07-04-2002, 03:49 PM

Haa haaa haa you make me laugh J'bo

W8 is right though its not that her consultation is expensive its actually quite good!! But when Trace wont give me 20bucks for a bottle of flax Thats bad!! She's desperate to get into our own house and the light at the end of the tunnel is getting closer so she's speeding up- she a good girl!!
I get protien from my traing who is a supplier for Musashi and he gives it too me for cost!
Never even thought of doing that egg thing lol try the local baker this weekend!
And yeah This Sat will be 12 weeks out and a competetors meeting Monday week.

Rissole · 07-07-2002, 04:32 AM

Havn't posted this weekend been so busy
Doing a conference this week in Sydney and wont be back till next Sat so

Have fun and i see ya when i get back
And Kuso, you can pornalize my diary while im gone
Hell have a party everyone the only two things i ask are Have your vommo OUTSIDE and flush the toilet..... Oh and dont leave any pubes in the soap!!

w8lifter · 07-07-2002, 07:20 AM

LOL

Have fun peetrips, but um...stay healthy

kuso · 07-07-2002, 09:02 AM

Have a good week buddy.....and stay away from Oxford street

esmerelda · 07-08-2002, 10:30 AM

Awwww...Kuso....telling him to stay away from Oxford Street... gotta let the poor boy have some fun!!!!!!!!!!

Rissole · 07-23-2002, 04:24 AM

Ummmm hello?? Anybody here?? Yes i'm back
Got some mind bending news.....
Decided not to compete Bet ya didnt see that coming lol
Here's why....
The conference was off the richter, a really good time but it consisted of getting up at 6.00 every morn and back into bed 1.30 the next morning very hard to prep food and do all that stuff with those hours. I did all right for the first two days but then fell apart for coffee and churros !!

Then the week i got back i got the flu (soaking wet sheets of a night !!) not very nice. Still trying to get over it!!
Anyway my trainer is keen to keep building muscle (me too) and aim for a comp next year.
Gonna stay on a slow cut till i get to about 10-12% see how we go eh ??
Missed you guys heaps!! Did i miss anything exciting?? Any pics of Kuso yet?? Hmmm Hmmmm? didn't think so

Heres some new pics too!!

Rissole · 07-23-2002, 04:36 AM

These are over a period of about 6 mths 1st is Jan last was yesterday!!
Love handles are vanishing

Rissole · 07-23-2002, 04:38 AM

Back relax

Rissole · 07-23-2002, 04:40 AM

Front double
Need to shave my head again!

Rissole · 07-23-2002, 04:42 AM

Rear double Stoked with my back progress!!

Rissole · 07-23-2002, 04:44 AM

some extras!!

Dr. Pain · 07-23-2002, 06:12 AM

Welcome back! Sorry to hear you're not competing. Your pictures look incredible, remarkable transformation!

I think you are ahead of were you told us you were with your BF!

Looking Good!

DP

Twin Peak · 07-23-2002, 07:12 AM

Consider it a learning process! Add some more size and next year get on a good cut and you'll have a blast!

Nice gains so far!

J'Bo · 07-23-2002, 11:58 AM

Looking good PT.
Being sick sucks, hope your back to your old self soon.

lina · 07-23-2002, 07:56 PM

Hey 'sir' P!

Welcome back! Glad you didn't leave for good!

Rissole · 07-24-2002, 03:52 PM

Thanks Guys
Ummm what now? Should i keep this diary going or start a new one with new goals?
Thanks DP my younger brother has results about the same as far as the bf levels go it must of been the rice cake diet eh?? lol

J'Bo not sure if getting back to my old self is a good thing or not

And Lina as i once read "where else could i go? For you have the words of ..insert bodybuiling; life"

J'Bo · 07-24-2002, 04:09 PM

I think a new diary is in order.

07-03-2002, 07:58 PM	#91
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07-03-2002, 08:14 PM	#93
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Thankyou w8 i was just pming you as you posted that i think I'm ready to listen to what youv'e got to say I'll have to talk to the wife as well first though Once again thanks for your time w8!! Last edited by Rissole : 07-03-2002 at 08:23 PM.
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07-03-2002, 11:02 PM	#94
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Peehead, i mean peetrips (sorry i just think i am funny tonight). Glad you are heading in the right direction. I think that the above list is good, but it may not all be aceptable given the short amount if time you have to lose bf. Just listen to team DPw8 and they will show you the way. Post your food asap i am curious to see what you are eatin boy. Dont forget to let us know how your feeling that day too.
	....and thats my $.02

07-03-2002, 11:47 PM	#95
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Oh she cares about me Yeah girl really funny!! (have you been drinking??) I might have a bit of a rough time talkin the wife into the DPw8 deal but i'll give it a shot! My next hurdle will be on Monday i have to go to a conference in Sydney for the week, gonna take some planning. I have been eating that terrible diet that you saw before, i've been sticking to it like 100% (boring!!) but thats what i'm like (not boring, just a stickler to that kind of stuff) How's the dinner 1 chicken breast and 500gs of vegies then like 20mins later i'm starving... its a bitch. I make myself go to bed early so i can have my protien shake lol!
	My Journal

07-04-2002, 12:39 AM	#97
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	I did a quick protien/carb/fat level check on his diet and the carbs seemed really high, when you got a website full of b/bs who compete saying that the diet sucks it kinda makes you wonder.... I still may not be able to do the DPw8 deal cause me and Trace (wife) are pretty strapped for cash (trying to save for our home deposit) but i can still listen to the common sense things like rice cakes and cottage cheese and... and.... We'll just see how we go eh...
	My Journal

07-03-2002, 08:00 PM	#92
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Peetrips...just read your entire journal. Yes, you need help First...your trainer looks awesome...however, his diet sucks. He is putting you on a calorie restricted diet....he will continually drop your calories every couple of weeks w/o any regard to meal composition....he's already got you doing 45 min cardio daily this far out....the combination will leave you weak early on in your cut, and you will loose LBM...GUARANTEED! I can tell you the dairy, fruit (some), rice cakes, pasta, bread, & jam will all prolong your cut and stall fat loss each time you eat them. This diet is lacking in EFA's and Fibre. I am not a pro BB by any means...but this is not the first time I've told a pro their diet sucks...(ask j'bo). This diet may work for him, hell it may even work for you (though I doubt it), but at what expense? I think you have the discipline to stick to a proper pre-comp diet, just lack the nutritional knowledge to put one together or see what's "good" and what's "bad". I am returning your pm now BTW...the extra water will flush toxins (as j'bo mentioned), keep your kidneys happy due to the protein (anyone eating a high-protein diet should ensure adequate water levels) and will serve to dry you out...you'll hold less water, you will appear leaner...you might need some chapstick, and you might consider taking an extra multi-mineral everyday to ensure a healthy balance of electrolytes.

07-03-2002, 11:54 PM	#96
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Peeps....what made you decide to change the diet that he gave you??

07-04-2002, 12:10 PM	#98
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	It really isnt that taxing on the pocket. Rice cakes and yogurt and the previous diet you were on sounds like alot more money than this one. Here are some tips: Buy everything in bulk if you can (brown rice, chicken, and eggs). Ask a local baker if he would be willing to sell you eggs for cheap if you were to return the yolks. I know some restaurants around here love that. Tuna is always cheaper in case loads and ask bb around you where they go to get their protein powders, usually they have a little pharmacy that has great prices. We have a pharmacy that sells powder at sometimes 40% lower than big company stores. This is not a cheap sport but there are ways around all the high costs. I know i am cheapy. You may want to ask the meat and dairy board if they would be interested in sponsoring you, when they see a determined athlete they usually jump at the chance. Tell them its a tax free write off as well, they love that one. Have a good one.
	....and thats my $.02

07-04-2002, 12:48 PM	#99
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	J'bo...I think he was talking about the consulting fee, lol...nice tips though

07-04-2002, 02:21 PM	#100
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Oh i see. Here i go being space headish again. How long out from comp are you PT? I think it is only 3 monthes? It will be worth every penny.
	....and thats my $.02

07-04-2002, 03:49 PM	#101
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Haa haaa haa you make me laugh J'bo W8 is right though its not that her consultation is expensive its actually quite good!! But when Trace wont give me 20bucks for a bottle of flax Thats bad!! She's desperate to get into our own house and the light at the end of the tunnel is getting closer so she's speeding up- she a good girl!! I get protien from my traing who is a supplier for Musashi and he gives it too me for cost! Never even thought of doing that egg thing lol try the local baker this weekend! And yeah This Sat will be 12 weeks out and a competetors meeting Monday week.
	My Journal

07-07-2002, 04:32 AM	#102
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Havn't posted this weekend been so busy Doing a conference this week in Sydney and wont be back till next Sat so Have fun and i see ya when i get back And Kuso, you can pornalize my diary while im gone Hell have a party everyone the only two things i ask are Have your vommo OUTSIDE and flush the toilet..... Oh and dont leave any pubes in the soap!!
	My Journal

07-07-2002, 07:20 AM	#103
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	LOL Have fun peetrips, but um...stay healthy

07-07-2002, 09:02 AM	#104
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Have a good week buddy.....and stay away from Oxford street

07-08-2002, 10:30 AM	#105
esmerelda Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Playing in the sun!!!! Posts: 767	Awwww...Kuso....telling him to stay away from Oxford Street... gotta let the poor boy have some fun!!!!!!!!!!
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07-23-2002, 04:24 AM	#106
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Ummmm hello?? Anybody here?? Yes i'm back Got some mind bending news..... Decided not to compete Bet ya didnt see that coming lol Here's why.... The conference was off the richter, a really good time but it consisted of getting up at 6.00 every morn and back into bed 1.30 the next morning very hard to prep food and do all that stuff with those hours. I did all right for the first two days but then fell apart for coffee and churros !! Then the week i got back i got the flu (soaking wet sheets of a night !!) not very nice. Still trying to get over it!! Anyway my trainer is keen to keep building muscle (me too) and aim for a comp next year. Gonna stay on a slow cut till i get to about 10-12% see how we go eh ?? Missed you guys heaps!! Did i miss anything exciting?? Any pics of Kuso yet?? Hmmm Hmmmm? didn't think so Heres some new pics too!!
	My Journal

07-23-2002, 04:36 AM	#107
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	These are over a period of about 6 mths 1st is Jan last was yesterday!! Love handles are vanishing Last edited by Rissole : 07-23-2002 at 04:46 AM.
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07-23-2002, 04:38 AM	#108
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07-23-2002, 04:40 AM	#109
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07-23-2002, 06:12 AM	#112
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Welcome back! Sorry to hear you're not competing. Your pictures look incredible, remarkable transformation! I think you are ahead of were you told us you were with your BF! Looking Good! DP

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07-23-2002, 11:58 AM	#114
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Looking good PT. Being sick sucks, hope your back to your old self soon.
	....and thats my $.02

07-23-2002, 07:56 PM	#115
lina It's a Wonderful Life!!! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lounging around... Posts: 2,797	Hey 'sir' P! Welcome back! Glad you didn't leave for good!

07-24-2002, 03:52 PM	#116
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Thanks Guys Ummm what now? Should i keep this diary going or start a new one with new goals? Thanks DP my younger brother has results about the same as far as the bf levels go it must of been the rice cake diet eh?? lol J'Bo not sure if getting back to my old self is a good thing or not And Lina as i once read "where else could i go? For you have the words of ..insert bodybuiling; life"
	My Journal

07-24-2002, 04:09 PM	#117
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	I think a new diary is in order.
	....and thats my $.02