Comp in Sept?? Will he be ready??

Rissole · 06-17-2002, 03:05 AM

Hello to all boys and girls for those of you that dont know me my name is Peter and i have been training since Dec-Jan
Well to my surprise i'm going in a comp on the 28th of Sept i think thats right (i got about 14 1/2 weeks)
This is feeling quite strange to me because of the short time i've been working out but we'll see how we go eh??
Please feel free to make any comments on workout and diet but please dont be offended if i dont take your advice

I have a p/t who won the 2001 natural championships over here so he gets most of my respect!! as far as you guys go i have a select few on these boards that will get my ear (no Kuso not you at least not till you post a pic

)
So i'll post every 2 days i think and put down what i've eaten and my work out then you guys can do what you guys do best !

Rissole · 06-17-2002, 03:32 AM

So i'll just do today for starters eh
17/6/02 workout day
Meals:
1.
small bowl of rolled oats
Protien shake
1 1/2 bannanas (other half was black)

2.
4 thin rice cakes
2 teaspoons of jam
250gs l/f cottage cheese

3.
95gs Tuna
100gs Brown pasta
About 2 cups of salad
Bannanannannaa and an apple

4.
Had a pre workout shake (made with water)

5.
Fairly large plate of spag/bole (brown spag)
low fat cheese sprinkled on top mmmm Yum

ran out of protien otherwise id have another shake before bed

Ok workout went something like this:
Bench/p 100kg 8/6
Incline 80kg 9/6
Incline flys 32kg 11/9
V-bar dips 15kg +me 88kg 12/9
Hyper extension 42kg 12/12
Fit ball crunch 75kg 21/15/13
Seated calves 80kg 9/8/8
Standing curls 42kg 10/6
Alt d/b curls (seated) 20kg 10/8
Incline curls 17kg 11/8
Close grip press 60kg 9/8
Dips (between benches) 100kg (in lap) 8/8
Kickbacks 17kg 11/10

So there you have it (do you want me to convert to lbs) thats kinda pretty standard but feel free to make comments
Thanks all

J-LEE · 06-17-2002, 06:21 AM

Hey Peet,I reckon you'll do good in comp,you certainly train hard each time I see you in gym and I can see a difference in you myself,you are dedicated and have what it takes,knock em dead.

J'Bo · 06-17-2002, 07:12 AM

I am no expert, but you are trying to cut down for the show right?

Pasta no matter how brown it is and rice cakes have a high GI and cause you to store fat instead of lose fat.

Also where are your essential fats? EFA allow you to lose stored fat in the body, oils like flax, Udo's, and hempseed oil.

I know you said you don't take many people's advice because you have a class one athlete helping you, but if he is telling you that you dont need EFA's he is old school. No offense.
Fats arent stored in the body unless you consume sugar, the fatest way to drop BF and keep lean muscle is to drop your sugar all together and raise your essential fats.

They are called "essential" for a reason.

Either way, looks like you are dedicated to your decision on competing. You'll do great.

Both diets work only one is alot harder on your body and produces alot more hormone inbalances.
Maybe do some homework for yourself on EFA's and bodybuilding and you will see for yourself that they are nessesary.

lina · 06-17-2002, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peetrips
So i'll just do today for starters eh
17/6/02 workout day
Meals:
1.
small bowl of rolled oats
Protien shake
1 1/2 bannanas (other half was black)

2.
4 thin rice cakes
2 teaspoons of jam
250gs l/f cottage cheese

3.
95gs Tuna
100gs Brown pasta
About 2 cups of salad
Bannanannannaa and an apple

4.
Had a pre workout shake (made with water)

5.
Fairly large plate of spag/bole (brown spag)
low fat cheese sprinkled on top mmmm Yum

ran out of protien otherwise id have another shake before bed

Hi peetrips!

Yes, he WILL be ready!!!! Let's change the title of the journal, eh? J/k

Is this the cutting diet that your PT gave you? If I were cutting I don't think rice cakes, jam, cottage cheese, spaghetti would be allowed.

I'm sure one of the IM experts will jump in here to help you out....

..let see what they have to say...

Twin Peak · 06-17-2002, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lina
Is this the cutting diet that your PT gave you? If I were cutting I don't think rice cakes, jam, cottage cheese, spaghetti would be allowed.

I'm sure one of the IM experts will jump in here to help you out....

..let see what they have to say...

True. Plus dairy, bananas and other items should be cut. OF course, you may already be at 8-10% bodyfat and having a much shorter cutting phase. Don't plan on losing more than 1 to 1 1/2 pounds per week plus about 5-8 pounds of water weight the last week.

You haven't logged your water, but you should be drinking at least 6 liters.

kuso · 06-17-2002, 07:55 AM

Peep, let me guess....you don`t like eggs

w8lifter · 06-17-2002, 08:00 AM

Good post J'bo!

Quote:

Originally posted by peetrips
So i'll just do today for starters eh
17/6/02 workout day
Meals:
1.
small bowl of rolled oats
Protien shake
1 1/2 bannanas (other half was black)

banana's are rather high GI and high in sugar, a much better option would be grapefruit, berries or an apple.

2.
4 thin rice cakes
2 teaspoons of jam
250gs l/f cottage cheese

Rice cakes and jam will cause a large insulin spike...any time you spike your insulin you halt fat-burning

3.
95gs Tuna
100gs Brown pasta
About 2 cups of salad
Bannanannannaa and an apple

Again, pasta & bananas, as lina & J'bo pointed out also, are going to be high GI and halt your fat-burning

4.
Had a pre workout shake (made with water)

5.
Fairly large plate of spag/bole (brown spag)
low fat cheese sprinkled on top mmmm Yum

ran out of protien otherwise id have another shake before bed

I agree w/ J'bo on the EFA's...where are they?

Robboe · 06-17-2002, 08:06 AM

Peetrips, are you actually couting calories yet?

J'Bo · 06-17-2002, 11:03 AM

Thanks W8, i learnt from the best

Rissole · 06-17-2002, 04:09 PM

Ohh so much info already Way cool

Ok i should have posted some stats as well
5' 9 1/2" 88kg or 193.6lbs And i should be just under 15%bf

Ok i didn't put flax in cause i didn't take it yesterday (i tend to get the runs from it) i was thinking of taking 2 caps per meal? i had 2 with breaki this morn.

I haven't spoken to my trainer yet i talk to him on Sunday but this diet was the original diet he gave me when we started working out i imagine he might change that on Sundy

TCD quick answer is no. I haven't really logged what i've eaten before so then i haven't sat down to work it out.

Kuso i love eggs but i just need to get up earlier to make them. I love my sleep and i start work fairly early in the morn so a quick breki is a good one (though i will be changing that)

W8 what can i have instead of rice cakes (the jam is to just try and make the c/c taste a bit nicer) and i love bannannannans but i'll do without i just love any fruit any way!!
I only had pasta last night cause that was what the wifey made but as far as my lunch pasta goes what would be good to replace that ??

And there you have it folks you now no i'm as green as they get sorry if i'm to much of a hassle
Thanks heaps for your great comments and keep em coming (i need you guys)

Thanks J-Lee

w8lifter · 06-17-2002, 04:16 PM

Brown rice or sweet potato can replace the pasta.

Fruits that are good to have would be apples, grapefruit, peaches, strawberries, blueberries.

Have oats, almond, natty peanut butter, etc instead of the rice cakes.

naturaltan · 06-17-2002, 04:31 PM

PT ... I'm going to follow your dairy as it interests me ... I am thinking about possibly kicking the weight training into contest speed. I wish you the best of luck and will enjoy your journey! I just weighted myself and found I'm 164 ... up 3 pounds of muscle from 2 months ago. I didn't think I could hit 170 ... but slow and steady wins the race.

Rissole · 06-17-2002, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter
Brown rice or sweet potato can replace the pasta.

i usually have brown rice on a non workout day but thats cool and i luuurrrvvv sweet potato

Quote:

by naturaltan

PT ... I'm going to follow your dairy as it interests me ... I am thinking about possibly kicking the weight training into contest speed. I wish you the best of luck and will enjoy your journey! I just weighted myself and found I'm 164 ... up 3 pounds of muscle from 2 months ago. I didn't think I could hit 170 ... but slow and steady wins the race.

Thanks Nat i need all the support i can get if you go for it i'll be watching you too
How tall are you?? going by your pics i thought you'd be heavier than that?
I think that my current stats are a bit of a gift from above!! lol

Rissole · 06-17-2002, 08:44 PM

Hell no 6 ltrs of water

downed 4ltrs by lunch, been to the dunny about 10 times

I know your kidneys can process about 2 ltrs a day so why the huge amount (excuse me gotta go again)
ahhhh much better

J'Bo · 06-17-2002, 09:44 PM

The runs from the flax seed oil is most likely because either you were taking too much, or you have such bad toxins in your body it is trying to rid of them. I used to hear of this alot when i worked for an EFA company. Have you ever had wheat grass? Well wheat grass is so full of beneficial nutrients that if you are sick and have a shot of the stuff, you will

it up instantly. Flax seed oil, and hemp seed oil is the same. Do you live in Canada? Cause if you do you should try Manitoba Harvests Hempseed oil it is so tastey as a salad dressing and has the perfect ratio of essential fats. It may not give you the runs.

.

LAM · 06-17-2002, 10:32 PM

rice cakes stiumlate the fat storing enzyme lipoprotein lipase...I would not eat them.

Rissole · 06-18-2002, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
The runs from the flax seed oil is most likely because either you were taking too much, or you have such bad toxins in your body it is trying to rid of them. I used to hear of this alot when i worked for an EFA company. Have you ever had wheat grass? Well wheat grass is so full of beneficial nutrients that if you are sick and have a shot of the stuff, you will

it up instantly. Flax seed oil, and hemp seed oil is the same. Do you live in Canada? Cause if you do you should try Manitoba Harvests Hempseed oil it is so tastey as a salad dressing and has the perfect ratio of essential fats. It may not give you the runs.

.

I was taking 10 caps a day in one hit which is what it recomends but i'm gonna try and spread it out over the whole day, 2 caps per meal
I'm an Aussie boy J'Bo so dont rush off and buy a plane ticket just to meet me i'm married lol

You guys have such good products over there and such a wide variety we got a few good brands butt you gotta pay through the arse for em (pun intended)

Rissole · 06-18-2002, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAM
rice cakes stiumlate the fat storing enzyme lipoprotein lipase...I would not eat them.

Something nice to put my cottage cheese on then??

lina · 06-18-2002, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peetrips

Something nice to put my cottage cheese on then??

Why don't you check out RD's journal? There are great menu's there as to what you can/can't eat in the mean time you wait till Sunday for your PT.. ? Doesn't hurt to start eating super clean for a few days until then? As mentioned earlier, you will have to limit dairy, so that includes cottage cheese

.

naturaltan · 06-18-2002, 08:46 AM

Pt ... I'm 5'9" ... and thanks for the compliment. I'm not big like some monsters here, but I get told every once in a while that I look bigger than I

J'Bo · 06-18-2002, 08:57 AM

PT, you live in Aussie? I may have to come down there to marry you, you interested?

Anyways, if you would like i could send you some hempseed oil. They also have hempseed nuts that taste like shelled sunflower seeds but are COMPLETE proteins and have all your nessesary EFA's. These seeds are great on salads and to cook with or to replace any kind of nuts. They also have hempnut butter, tastes like a strong peanut butter (but it is green). It is just the hempseeds pressed into butter form with nothing else added. The hempseed oil is awesome as a salad dressing along with a little soya and balsamic vinegar. Why down a disgusting tablespoon of flax or swallow 10 pills when you can eat this stuff plain. Let me know and i will try to help you out.

kuso · 06-18-2002, 09:05 AM

Being another Aussie on here, I`d take a guess that the anal bastards at customs ( sorry Essy

) would destroy anything with the word "hemp" on it.....or at the very least, try to smoke it

J'Bo · 06-18-2002, 10:09 AM

Well i will look into it for you.
The company i used to work for was the only Hemp company allowed to enter the US because the THC level was almost untraceable.

Rissole · 06-19-2002, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
PT, you live in Aussie? I may have to come down there to marry you, you interested?

YES !! But you can't marry me we'll have to have an affair ok

And Kuso's right Even if it had some miniscule amount of THC there'd be some Aussie wacko tryin to jam it up his arm

Hmmm my younger brother comes to mind

06-17-2002, 03:05 AM	#1
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Comp in Sept?? Will he be ready?? Hello to all boys and girls for those of you that dont know me my name is Peter and i have been training since Dec-Jan Well to my surprise i'm going in a comp on the 28th of Sept i think thats right (i got about 14 1/2 weeks) This is feeling quite strange to me because of the short time i've been working out but we'll see how we go eh?? Please feel free to make any comments on workout and diet but please dont be offended if i dont take your advice I have a p/t who won the 2001 natural championships over here so he gets most of my respect!! as far as you guys go i have a select few on these boards that will get my ear (no Kuso not you at least not till you post a pic ) So i'll post every 2 days i think and put down what i've eaten and my work out then you guys can do what you guys do best !
	My Journal

06-17-2002, 03:32 AM	#2
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	So i'll just do today for starters eh 17/6/02 workout day Meals: 1. small bowl of rolled oats Protien shake 1 1/2 bannanas (other half was black) 2. 4 thin rice cakes 2 teaspoons of jam 250gs l/f cottage cheese 3. 95gs Tuna 100gs Brown pasta About 2 cups of salad Bannanannannaa and an apple 4. Had a pre workout shake (made with water) 5. Fairly large plate of spag/bole (brown spag) low fat cheese sprinkled on top mmmm Yum ran out of protien otherwise id have another shake before bed Ok workout went something like this: Bench/p 100kg 8/6 Incline 80kg 9/6 Incline flys 32kg 11/9 V-bar dips 15kg +me 88kg 12/9 Hyper extension 42kg 12/12 Fit ball crunch 75kg 21/15/13 Seated calves 80kg 9/8/8 Standing curls 42kg 10/6 Alt d/b curls (seated) 20kg 10/8 Incline curls 17kg 11/8 Close grip press 60kg 9/8 Dips (between benches) 100kg (in lap) 8/8 Kickbacks 17kg 11/10 So there you have it (do you want me to convert to lbs) thats kinda pretty standard but feel free to make comments Thanks all
	My Journal

06-17-2002, 07:12 AM	#4
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	I am no expert, but you are trying to cut down for the show right? Pasta no matter how brown it is and rice cakes have a high GI and cause you to store fat instead of lose fat. Also where are your essential fats? EFA allow you to lose stored fat in the body, oils like flax, Udo's, and hempseed oil. I know you said you don't take many people's advice because you have a class one athlete helping you, but if he is telling you that you dont need EFA's he is old school. No offense. Fats arent stored in the body unless you consume sugar, the fatest way to drop BF and keep lean muscle is to drop your sugar all together and raise your essential fats. They are called "essential" for a reason. Either way, looks like you are dedicated to your decision on competing. You'll do great. Both diets work only one is alot harder on your body and produces alot more hormone inbalances. Maybe do some homework for yourself on EFA's and bodybuilding and you will see for yourself that they are nessesary.
	....and thats my $.02

06-17-2002, 08:06 AM	#9
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,151	Peetrips, are you actually couting calories yet?
	Being held down by The Man

06-17-2002, 11:03 AM	#10
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Thanks W8, i learnt from the best
	....and thats my $.02

06-17-2002, 06:21 AM	#3
J-LEE Butt Buster!! Join Date: May 2002 Location: GWANDALAN Posts: 9	Hey Peet,I reckon you'll do good in comp,you certainly train hard each time I see you in gym and I can see a difference in you myself,you are dedicated and have what it takes,knock em dead.

06-17-2002, 07:55 AM	#7
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Peep, let me guess....you don`t like eggs

06-17-2002, 04:09 PM	#11
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Ohh so much info already Way cool Ok i should have posted some stats as well 5' 9 1/2" 88kg or 193.6lbs And i should be just under 15%bf Ok i didn't put flax in cause i didn't take it yesterday (i tend to get the runs from it) i was thinking of taking 2 caps per meal? i had 2 with breaki this morn. I haven't spoken to my trainer yet i talk to him on Sunday but this diet was the original diet he gave me when we started working out i imagine he might change that on Sundy TCD quick answer is no. I haven't really logged what i've eaten before so then i haven't sat down to work it out. Kuso i love eggs but i just need to get up earlier to make them. I love my sleep and i start work fairly early in the morn so a quick breki is a good one (though i will be changing that) W8 what can i have instead of rice cakes (the jam is to just try and make the c/c taste a bit nicer) and i love bannannannans but i'll do without i just love any fruit any way!! I only had pasta last night cause that was what the wifey made but as far as my lunch pasta goes what would be good to replace that ?? And there you have it folks you now no i'm as green as they get sorry if i'm to much of a hassle Thanks heaps for your great comments and keep em coming (i need you guys) Thanks J-Lee
	My Journal

06-17-2002, 04:16 PM	#12
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Brown rice or sweet potato can replace the pasta. Fruits that are good to have would be apples, grapefruit, peaches, strawberries, blueberries. Have oats, almond, natty peanut butter, etc instead of the rice cakes.

06-17-2002, 04:31 PM	#13
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	PT ... I'm going to follow your dairy as it interests me ... I am thinking about possibly kicking the weight training into contest speed. I wish you the best of luck and will enjoy your journey! I just weighted myself and found I'm 164 ... up 3 pounds of muscle from 2 months ago. I didn't think I could hit 170 ... but slow and steady wins the race.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

06-17-2002, 08:44 PM	#15
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Hell no 6 ltrs of water downed 4ltrs by lunch, been to the dunny about 10 times I know your kidneys can process about 2 ltrs a day so why the huge amount (excuse me gotta go again) ahhhh much better
	My Journal

06-17-2002, 09:44 PM	#16
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	The runs from the flax seed oil is most likely because either you were taking too much, or you have such bad toxins in your body it is trying to rid of them. I used to hear of this alot when i worked for an EFA company. Have you ever had wheat grass? Well wheat grass is so full of beneficial nutrients that if you are sick and have a shot of the stuff, you will it up instantly. Flax seed oil, and hemp seed oil is the same. Do you live in Canada? Cause if you do you should try Manitoba Harvests Hempseed oil it is so tastey as a salad dressing and has the perfect ratio of essential fats. It may not give you the runs..
	....and thats my $.02

06-17-2002, 10:32 PM	#17
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	rice cakes stiumlate the fat storing enzyme lipoprotein lipase...I would not eat them.
	Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

06-18-2002, 08:46 AM	#21
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	Pt ... I'm 5'9" ... and thanks for the compliment. I'm not big like some monsters here, but I get told every once in a while that I look bigger than I
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

06-18-2002, 08:57 AM	#22
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	PT, you live in Aussie? I may have to come down there to marry you, you interested? Anyways, if you would like i could send you some hempseed oil. They also have hempseed nuts that taste like shelled sunflower seeds but are COMPLETE proteins and have all your nessesary EFA's. These seeds are great on salads and to cook with or to replace any kind of nuts. They also have hempnut butter, tastes like a strong peanut butter (but it is green). It is just the hempseeds pressed into butter form with nothing else added. The hempseed oil is awesome as a salad dressing along with a little soya and balsamic vinegar. Why down a disgusting tablespoon of flax or swallow 10 pills when you can eat this stuff plain. Let me know and i will try to help you out.
	....and thats my $.02

06-18-2002, 09:05 AM	#23
kuso Um......get rooted! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aka ( o Y o ) Posts: 15,033 Photos: 15	Being another Aussie on here, I`d take a guess that the anal bastards at customs ( sorry Essy ) would destroy anything with the word "hemp" on it.....or at the very least, try to smoke it

06-18-2002, 10:09 AM	#24
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Well i will look into it for you. The company i used to work for was the only Hemp company allowed to enter the US because the THC level was almost untraceable.
	....and thats my $.02