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Old 04-21-2008, 06:01 PM   #901
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I've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely that I can do both Krav and weights on the same day. Even if the weights come after Krav.

Take today for example. I thought that I'd go to Krav in the morning and then do weights in the evening. Wrong!

My legs are completely shot. At the end of class, we had a full 15 minutes for Krav Dessert. So my instructor has us do lunges. A lot of lunges. A shit-load of lunges. And some them weighted.

We had to go back and forth across the mat, which is 50 feet (15.24 metres) long. And we were supposed to do one and half trips with a 20 pound yoke on our shoulders. But the mentality of Krav, and my instructor, is that if someone is doing something, so will you. So there were four of us, so we each needed to do three trips. So that's 4 times 3, which equals 12 trips total. That's a total of 600 feet (183 metres) of lunges, and with three of them weighted. Non-stop.

Like I said, my legs are shot. If I racked up and tried to squat, I'd gone down faster than a Thai hooker.

Every day of Krav may not be this bad, so I might be able to both on the same day. But I'm not going to plan on it.



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Old 04-22-2008, 06:00 AM   #903
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Krav sounds incredible mate, how long are the classes? Tell me they're only an hour or so?? God, id die.

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I've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely that I can do both Krav and weights on the same day. Even if the weights come after Krav.

Take today for example. I thought that I'd go to Krav in the morning and then do weights in the evening. Wrong!
You may need a less intense workout for a while. Perhaps over time your body will adjust to all the abuse, but it seems as if you've jumped into this accelerated training rather quickly.
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Keep it up DOMS just sleep more and adjust your weightlifting volume and your body will adapt.



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Krav sounds incredible mate, how long are the classes? Tell me they're only an hour or so?? God, id die.

Soooooo ... hows things??
The classes are about and hour or just a bit longer. But there are very few wasted minutes. The closest that we get to inactivity is spending a minute or two listening to instructions when covering a new move.

Life is going pretty damn fine. I gave the details in your journal.

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You may need a less intense workout for a while. Perhaps over time your body will adjust to all the abuse, but it seems as if you've jumped into this accelerated training rather quickly.
I'm in complete agreement with you. I think I'm going to stick to the normal upper body routines, but do just actively recovery on the legs. My upper body feels fine, but my legs are shot.



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Keep it up DOMS just sleep more and adjust your weightlifting volume and your body will adapt.
Thanks, Brutus! Good tip on the sleep. When I don't get enough, I'm just ruined for that day.

Since my Krav workouts are all about endurance, I'm going to stick with low rep, high weight exercises. Except for the legs. Those I'm going to use light weight, high rep stuff.



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Okay, I realize that I'm going to sound like a pussy, but I went to Krav again this morning and just guess what we did for Krav Dessert? Yep, freakin' lunges! But we only did 400 feet today (100 weighted). But I found out that the yoke isn't 20 pounds, it's 40 pounds.

So, I've got a plan in place for my next Krav workout. I'm going to boldy stride right into the gym. I'm going to proudly line up for the opening greeting. And then, I'm going to hit the floor and cry like a little girl.

Joking aside, today's class was great. We had a new choking exercise. Each student took turns standing in the middle of the others. Then the other students (four total) would take turns randomly choking the center person from the front, back, and side, non-stop for three minutes.

After the first minute or so, thinking goes out the window and your body will do what it knows. One student, Joey, reverted to his Aikido training. And when I choke, I won't let go for shit. You really have to pry me off. So Joey ended up having to throw me pretty much every time.

I think that I did rather well. Even towards the end when I didn't have much left, I kept consistently breaking the hold (which isn't about strength) and following up with a combination of good punches, palm strikes, and, my favorite, elbows.

I really did have a lot of fun.



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Sweet sounds like a really good class.

That sorta stuff really does bomb you though, lol. Good going

I dunno if ive asked this before, but do they grade Krav? Like in some MA's they have white belt, yellow, black etc.



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Sweet sounds like a really good class.

That sorta stuff really does bomb you though, lol. Good going

I dunno if ive asked this before, but do they grade Krav? Like in some MA's they have white belt, yellow, black etc.
Thanks, Gaz!

Yeah, some places have belts and some use grades (1st, 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th). The higher the grade, the more advanced the Kravist. For example, you don't get to do weapons training until you're third grade.

But the truth of it is that sort of thing is really downplayed. My instructor has only talked about grades or belts when telling stories about other Kravists. He hasn't mentioned it even once when talking about the class.

I haven't come right out and stated it yet, but if you go to a Krav instructor and he even mentions the idea of belts or grades during your initial consultation, you should probably just leave.

So far, "black belt factories" in Krav Maga are hard to find, but they're starting to pop-up. Take taekwondo for example. Most taekwondo dojos (or whatever they call them) are nothing more than places to buy black belts. It takes some work to find a solid taekwondo instructor.

In the class, it's usually easy to tell who are the more experience students. You can tell from physical conditioning and technique.

Out in the world, Kravists settle it the old Navy way: First one to die, loses.



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Thanks, Brutus! Good tip on the sleep. When I don't get enough, I'm just ruined for that day.

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how do you guys like krav maga? there's a place down the street that teaches it..i've looked in on a few sessions and it looks sick! My fat self isn't near flexible or hard enough to do that HAHA but i've been tempted.



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Yeah, some places have belts and some use grades (1st, 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th). The higher the grade, the more advanced the Kravist. For example, you don't get to do weapons training until you're third grade.

But the truth of it is that sort of thing is really downplayed. My instructor has only talked about grades or belts when telling stories about other Kravists. He hasn't mentioned it even once when talking about the class.

I haven't come right out and stated it yet, but if you go to a Krav instructor and he even mentions the idea of belts or grades during your initial consultation, you should probably just leave.

So far, "black belt factories" in Krav Maga are hard to find, but they're starting to pop-up. Take taekwondo for example. Most taekwondo dojos (or whatever they call them) are nothing more than places to buy black belts. It takes some work to find a solid taekwondo instructor.

In the class, it's usually easy to tell who are the more experience students. You can tell from physical conditioning and technique.

Out in the world, Kravists settle it the old Navy way: First one to die, loses.
Thats the best way IMO. Theres waaaay too much bogus shit in the MA world as it is. My old boss used to go to one where theyd do practically nothing, but the guy would peddle these shoes, or jackets, or some stupid crap he was trying to sell.

That was the whole point of the class, he was probably a below-average martial artist just blagging it to get some cash.

You should be able to tell who can kick your ass, thats the only "rating" system that really means anything in the real world, lol.



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classes are looking pretty intense. i hope katt never decides to take a class like that.



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that Krav class sounds pretty damn intense man...400+ feet of lunges...man, that's a total destruction workout right there!!



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Hey Brother DOMS, sounds like class is going Great my Friend, keep it up!!!



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I know. That is pretty damn crazy.

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I'd never heard of Krav until I stopped in.
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