Deadlift Dave's training log

PeteTheGreek · 03-25-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DLDave

635 x 1 (sumo)

Holy shit?

PeteTheGreek · 03-25-2008, 05:10 PM

My advice. Train conventional, pull sumo in meets

DLDave · 03-25-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteTheGreek

Holy shit?

Yep, pretty much

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteTheGreek

My advice. Train conventional, pull sumo in meets

Good advice, similar to other things I've read in the past. I would still need to get some sumo reps in at least initially to get some idea of hand, feet, and upper body positioning.

DLDave · 03-26-2008, 01:12 PM

3/26 DE Bench

Speed bench w/ mini-band looped under bench
205 for 8 sets of 3

Rear delt flyes
170 x 10
210 x 10
230 x 10

Face Pulls
100 for 3 sets of 10

Lat side raises
30 x 10
40 x 10
50 x 10

Chest-assisted row
1 plate for 10
2 plates for 10
3 plates for 10
4 plates for 10

Uneventful workout, other than pulling 315 off of some HS football player, shortly after I saw him smirking at my 205 and bands. Shoulders pretty tight after pulling yesterday.

Stewart20 · 03-26-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DLDave

3/25 Deadlift

Deadlift off floor
405 x 3
455 x 2
500 x 1
550 x 1
570 x 1 (sumo)
605 x 1 (sumo)
635 x 1 (sumo)

Hip Abductor/Adductor
3 sets of 15 (each machine)

Standing ab pulldowns
3 sets of 12

The plan for today was to work up to 500 even and then to 550 (likely opener) if things felt good. I had mixed-in some sumos during warm-ups, and decided to see how a heavy sumo went, as I have never done a sumo much past 400. This stance seems to put me in a better position to pull, although I don't know a damn thing about the technical aspects of it. It was a slower rep but seemed to have more consistent power throughout. The 635 is a PR for full range, no straps. No grip issues today, I razored off the calluses last week which has really helped my hands.

Damn i missed this, good shit dave. If I were to use the straight bar again, I would like to train sumo, since it is easier on my back and I think I have better form on it.

Stewart20 · 03-26-2008, 02:08 PM

question for you. What would be a good plan to incorporate the squats and deads into a weekly routine. I am really not following westside or anything else for that matter, I thought of trying something I will run by you, and you can let me know what you think.

deads on mondays, and squats on fridays. right now all deads will be with the trap bar, and all squats will be slightly below parallel box squats. I want to do a 3 week rotation on each one, something like this:
week 1
Deads:go for a new max
Squats:6x3 with 80% of max
week 2
deads: 6x3 with 80% of max
squats: 7x1 with 90% of max
week 3
deads: 7x1 with 90% of max
squats: go for a new max
and repeat.

Then throw in some accessory stuff like glute ham raises and some back work. Bench work would be following the Kennelly routine on Wednesdays, and Saturday would be an optional bench accessory day with db benches and some tricep work.

What do you think?

DLDave · 03-26-2008, 02:18 PM

Give it a try and see how it works. Personally, outside of recently leading up to my meet, I try not to pull heavy and squat heavy in the same week as it beats me up pretty bad after a few weeks. I have followed more of the traditional Westside approach, which would be to do speed pulls only during the week that I'm squatting heavy, and no heavy squats the week that I pull heavy. Speed work is typically in the 50-60% range of your 1 RM, your plan goes up to 80% for the rep work which I would consider heavy. So in a cycle like you outlined, would be something like this, stick day 1 or day 2 wherever you want in the week:

Week 1:
Day 1: speed pulls
Day 2: heavy squat

Week 2:
Day 1: heavy pulls
Day 2: speed squat (or other light lower work)

Week 3:
Day 1: speed pulls
Day 2: heavy squat

The typical Westside templates have you speed pulling and speed squatting every week, and rotating heavy pulls, heavy squats, and heavy good mornings on the other day of that week. You may want to throw in the occassional good morning, which will help both dead and squat. If you do go heavy twice per week, be sure to take a deload after 4-6 weeks to avoid overtraining.

Stewart20 · 03-26-2008, 02:29 PM

Good to get another opinion, I will keep that in mind. Another idea would be to combine my idea with your idea, so that I could do a heavy squat or deadlift only once per week, but still keep that 80, 90 and 100% rotation going, only it would be every other week instead of weekly.

something to think about

i guess doing a light speed day would allow me to do some heavy accessory work like GMs, that would be out of the question in my plan.

DLDave · 03-28-2008, 07:16 PM

No lifting today, had a major fubar at work that resulted in some folks not building a couple hundred very valuable items today. Fortunately I'm not in the line of fire, but unfortunately dealing with the fallout that surely is coming caused me to work pretty late and miss what should've been my last heavy squat day. Looks like I'll be changing things up, light lower stuff tomorrow, heavy bench Sunday, and look to get a heavy squat early next week, probably Tues with Pete. And I think I got the legs in my suit loosened up with basketballs so the damn thing seats correctly, but might be too late to give it another shot.

DLDave · 03-29-2008, 11:16 AM

3/29 DE Lower

Speed pulls, sumo stance
315 for 8 singles

Static barbell holds
4 x 15 seconds

Hip Abductor/adductor
3 sets of 15, moderate weight (each machine)

Hex dumbbell holds
5 x 30 seconds, increasing weight, each hand

Reverse wrist curls
3 sets of 12

Kept the weight light on the pulls as I was mainly looking to work on form and get good speed off of the floor. Did quite a bit of reading on the sumo stance so had a better idea of what to focus on. Depending on when and how the last heavy squat goes next week, may try to get one more moderate pull in prior to the meet, something in the 450 lb range. Aside from that, got some good grip work in and stretched the hips.

DLDave · 03-30-2008, 08:49 AM

3/30 Bench

275 x 5
315 x 3
Added loose Inzer Double Denim
405 x 1
455 x 1
505 x 1
505 x 0 (completed rep with no help, but bar dipped a bit about 1/4 way off bottom, which would've been red lighted)

Floor pin press lockouts w/ mini-band on each end looped twice around dumbbell
225 x 5
315 x 5
365 x 5
405 x 5
455 x 5
505 x 5

Standing Ab Pulldowns
4 sets of 10
1 set of 6

Last heavy bench day prior to the meet, which is 14 days out for me. May work up to an opener next week. The 455 didn't feel as fast as it has the past few weeks, which is a concern as this is what I wanted to open with. The first 505 was sloppy but finished it, and felt better than the 495 a few weeks ago. The 2nd 505 had a dip near the bottom which would've caused it to be red lighted, but I finished the rep with no help and overall it felt better than the first. I think the issue here was that I touched too high and was out of the groove. Overall, I should be good for 500 in the meet and will be pissed if I don't hit it, as the strength is there, just a matter of hitting the shirt groove properly. Convict wraps felt better as I've been wearing them on speed days to get them broken in. Pete's been watching the big guys at Lexen too much, so we threw some bands onto the floor presses, which added probably 50-70 lbs at the top. Seemed pretty effective, could definitely feel the added tension once the bands caught.

DLDave · 04-01-2008, 05:44 PM

4/01 Squat

Squat w/ Predator briefs
415 X 2
505 X 1
555 x 1
595 x 1 (added knee wraps)
595 x 1 (added knee wraps)

Straight leg deads:
315 X 6
315 X 8
315 X 8

Standing ab pulldowns:
4 sets of 10

Last heavy day before meet. Will work up to an opener on bench on Saturday. Lower back has been tight, so won't be pulling again before meet. Looks like I'll be going with briefs and a singlet in the squat rather than full suit, as I can get sufficient depth in briefs and should be able to hit 600 or so. The upside of the suit would be higher, but no point in risking bombing out due to depth issues. My fault for not getting enough time in the Metal suit, so I'll be sure to get plenty of time in it over the next few months. Looks like it'll just be me and Pete from our group competing but plenty of others from Lexen competing. If I end up in the 308 class, I should finish about 600-700 pounds behind the top 2 in that class (Matt Wenning, Chuck Fought). Maybe they'll let me count 2 deadlifts?

DLDave · 04-02-2008, 05:35 PM

4/02 DE Bench

Speed bench:
185 for 8 sets of 3

Seated rear delt row:
3 plates + quarter each side, 3 sets of 10

Chest supported row:
3 plates + quarter, 3 sets of 6

Started with some moderate hammer curls and reverse wrist curls to warm up. Speed sucked today, fealing beat to hell from yesterday's squats. This shouldn't happen to a pro

DLDave · 04-05-2008, 08:54 AM

4/05 Bench

Flat bench to opener
225 X 5
315 X 3
Added Inzer double denim
365 X 1 (No touch)
405 X 1 (touch)
455 X 1 (touch)

Floor pin press lockouts:
405 X 5
455 X 5
505 X 5
555 x 3

Standing ab pulldown:
3 sets of 10
1 set of 8

Eight days out from meet, last real workout prior to then. I'll do some ab work and some other light work to keep things stretched out until middle of the week, then done. Unless something dramatically goes south between now and meet day, will likely be opening with 455. Today's 455 was somewhat slow likely due to not hitting groove, but I don't have much problem pressing this back up even when misgrooved.

Triple Threat · 04-05-2008, 11:08 AM

Good luck in the meet.

DLDave · 04-06-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Good luck in the meet.

Thanks!

PeteTheGreek · 04-06-2008, 12:51 PM

Flights are posted. You're in the flight with the 1,000 lb squatters. Better you than me.

http://ironhousezanesville.com/08%20...tries%20In.htm

DLDave · 04-06-2008, 02:51 PM

That's just great. I saw Wenning at BW3 the other day, was going to ask him to not double my squat. And somehow you don't even have Harrington either.

soxmuscle · 04-07-2008, 06:25 AM

Had a meet at my gym this past Saturday.

Purty cool.

Best of luck to you!

DLDave · 04-07-2008, 12:27 PM

Thanks sox.

4/07 Misc Light stuff

Pullthrus:
60 lb for 4 sets of 10

Hip Abductor/Adductor
4 sets of 15, light weight (each machine)

Ab Pulldowns
5 sets of 12, heavy

45 degree back raise
BW for 2 sets of 10

Except for the regular ab work, kept the weight very light today with weight that would typically what would be a 2nd warm-up set, mainly to keep stretched out and keep the blood flowing. Will hit a few upper exercises either tomorrow or Wed and then be done until the meet.

PeteTheGreek · 04-07-2008, 04:25 PM

Dave, you were mentioned on powerliftingwatch.com:

An updated lifter roster is posted for this weekend's Iron House Classic which will be held in Columbus, Ohio. The Iron House Classic traditionally attracts a number of the top lifters and this year is no exception. Included in the lineup is:

Joe Dougherty, 181
Phil Harrington, 220
Nick Roman, 275 (junior who pulled 800 in October)
Luke Edwards, 242
Dave Schwab, 275
Paul Childress, 308
Chuck Fought, 308
Matt Wenning, 308
Matt Smith, shw
Mike Wolfe, shw

DLDave · 04-07-2008, 06:19 PM

Yeah right. You forgot the part about the kid half your age in your flight with the 800 lb pull.

PeteTheGreek · 04-07-2008, 06:45 PM

Not anymore. Looks like I've been moved to the second flight and you're in the first. They're doing this to keep the strong guys together and the pathetic lifters like us in a different group.

DLDave · 04-07-2008, 06:53 PM

So they have the old guys and the skinny kids in the same flight. You have a chance to look impressive now. I was demoted to amateur, so I don't get to lift with the big guys.

PeteTheGreek · 04-07-2008, 07:02 PM

It's for the loaders' benefit. When the second attempts start, they don't have to strip a lot of weight off the bar. So if Paul Childress is the last lifter in his flight with a 1150 lb opener, they don't have to strip 800 lbs off the bar for Joe Blow's second attempt.

What they should do is have a weight cut off. Those opening with up to 500 lbs go in the first flight, 750 lb openers go in the second flight, 900 lb openers go in the third. Saves the loaders a lot of hassle.

DLDave · 04-08-2008, 08:39 AM

I thought they arranged the flights after you provided your openers at weigh in, for the very reasons that you stated.

PeteTheGreek · 04-08-2008, 03:06 PM

They also have to keep the guys in the same weight class/division together so you know what attempts you need to pick to win.

PeteTheGreek · 04-08-2008, 03:09 PM

This meet's getting too big now. 16-18 lifters in each flight. I bet he's still getting entries. There will be 20 lifters in each flight by meet day. Minimum 25 minutes rest between each attempt.

03-25-2008, 05:10 PM	#152
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	My advice. Train conventional, pull sumo in meets
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03-26-2008, 01:12 PM	#154
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	3/26 DE Bench Speed bench w/ mini-band looped under bench 205 for 8 sets of 3 Rear delt flyes 170 x 10 210 x 10 230 x 10 Face Pulls 100 for 3 sets of 10 Lat side raises 30 x 10 40 x 10 50 x 10 Chest-assisted row 1 plate for 10 2 plates for 10 3 plates for 10 4 plates for 10 Uneventful workout, other than pulling 315 off of some HS football player, shortly after I saw him smirking at my 205 and bands. Shoulders pretty tight after pulling yesterday.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

03-26-2008, 02:08 PM	#156
Stewart20 Fat guy in little coat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: All you can eat Chinese Buffet Posts: 2,593 Photos: 2	a good plan for squats and deads question for you. What would be a good plan to incorporate the squats and deads into a weekly routine. I am really not following westside or anything else for that matter, I thought of trying something I will run by you, and you can let me know what you think. deads on mondays, and squats on fridays. right now all deads will be with the trap bar, and all squats will be slightly below parallel box squats. I want to do a 3 week rotation on each one, something like this: week 1 Deads:go for a new max Squats:6x3 with 80% of max week 2 deads: 6x3 with 80% of max squats: 7x1 with 90% of max week 3 deads: 7x1 with 90% of max squats: go for a new max and repeat. Then throw in some accessory stuff like glute ham raises and some back work. Bench work would be following the Kennelly routine on Wednesdays, and Saturday would be an optional bench accessory day with db benches and some tricep work. What do you think?
	http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

03-26-2008, 02:18 PM	#157
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	Give it a try and see how it works. Personally, outside of recently leading up to my meet, I try not to pull heavy and squat heavy in the same week as it beats me up pretty bad after a few weeks. I have followed more of the traditional Westside approach, which would be to do speed pulls only during the week that I'm squatting heavy, and no heavy squats the week that I pull heavy. Speed work is typically in the 50-60% range of your 1 RM, your plan goes up to 80% for the rep work which I would consider heavy. So in a cycle like you outlined, would be something like this, stick day 1 or day 2 wherever you want in the week: Week 1: Day 1: speed pulls Day 2: heavy squat Week 2: Day 1: heavy pulls Day 2: speed squat (or other light lower work) Week 3: Day 1: speed pulls Day 2: heavy squat The typical Westside templates have you speed pulling and speed squatting every week, and rotating heavy pulls, heavy squats, and heavy good mornings on the other day of that week. You may want to throw in the occassional good morning, which will help both dead and squat. If you do go heavy twice per week, be sure to take a deload after 4-6 weeks to avoid overtraining.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

03-26-2008, 02:29 PM	#158
Stewart20 Fat guy in little coat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: All you can eat Chinese Buffet Posts: 2,593 Photos: 2	Good to get another opinion, I will keep that in mind. Another idea would be to combine my idea with your idea, so that I could do a heavy squat or deadlift only once per week, but still keep that 80, 90 and 100% rotation going, only it would be every other week instead of weekly. something to think about i guess doing a light speed day would allow me to do some heavy accessory work like GMs, that would be out of the question in my plan.
	http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

03-28-2008, 07:16 PM	#159
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	No lifting today, had a major fubar at work that resulted in some folks not building a couple hundred very valuable items today. Fortunately I'm not in the line of fire, but unfortunately dealing with the fallout that surely is coming caused me to work pretty late and miss what should've been my last heavy squat day. Looks like I'll be changing things up, light lower stuff tomorrow, heavy bench Sunday, and look to get a heavy squat early next week, probably Tues with Pete. And I think I got the legs in my suit loosened up with basketballs so the damn thing seats correctly, but might be too late to give it another shot.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

03-29-2008, 11:16 AM	#160
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	3/29 DE Lower Speed pulls, sumo stance 315 for 8 singles Static barbell holds 4 x 15 seconds Hip Abductor/adductor 3 sets of 15, moderate weight (each machine) Hex dumbbell holds 5 x 30 seconds, increasing weight, each hand Reverse wrist curls 3 sets of 12 Kept the weight light on the pulls as I was mainly looking to work on form and get good speed off of the floor. Did quite a bit of reading on the sumo stance so had a better idea of what to focus on. Depending on when and how the last heavy squat goes next week, may try to get one more moderate pull in prior to the meet, something in the 450 lb range. Aside from that, got some good grip work in and stretched the hips.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

03-30-2008, 08:49 AM	#161
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	3/30 Bench 275 x 5 315 x 3 Added loose Inzer Double Denim 405 x 1 455 x 1 505 x 1 505 x 0 (completed rep with no help, but bar dipped a bit about 1/4 way off bottom, which would've been red lighted) Floor pin press lockouts w/ mini-band on each end looped twice around dumbbell 225 x 5 315 x 5 365 x 5 405 x 5 455 x 5 505 x 5 Standing Ab Pulldowns 4 sets of 10 1 set of 6 Last heavy bench day prior to the meet, which is 14 days out for me. May work up to an opener next week. The 455 didn't feel as fast as it has the past few weeks, which is a concern as this is what I wanted to open with. The first 505 was sloppy but finished it, and felt better than the 495 a few weeks ago. The 2nd 505 had a dip near the bottom which would've caused it to be red lighted, but I finished the rep with no help and overall it felt better than the first. I think the issue here was that I touched too high and was out of the groove. Overall, I should be good for 500 in the meet and will be pissed if I don't hit it, as the strength is there, just a matter of hitting the shirt groove properly. Convict wraps felt better as I've been wearing them on speed days to get them broken in. Pete's been watching the big guys at Lexen too much, so we threw some bands onto the floor presses, which added probably 50-70 lbs at the top. Seemed pretty effective, could definitely feel the added tension once the bands caught.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-01-2008, 05:44 PM	#162
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	4/01 Squat Squat w/ Predator briefs 415 X 2 505 X 1 555 x 1 595 x 1 (added knee wraps) 595 x 1 (added knee wraps) Straight leg deads: 315 X 6 315 X 8 315 X 8 Standing ab pulldowns: 4 sets of 10 Last heavy day before meet. Will work up to an opener on bench on Saturday. Lower back has been tight, so won't be pulling again before meet. Looks like I'll be going with briefs and a singlet in the squat rather than full suit, as I can get sufficient depth in briefs and should be able to hit 600 or so. The upside of the suit would be higher, but no point in risking bombing out due to depth issues. My fault for not getting enough time in the Metal suit, so I'll be sure to get plenty of time in it over the next few months. Looks like it'll just be me and Pete from our group competing but plenty of others from Lexen competing. If I end up in the 308 class, I should finish about 600-700 pounds behind the top 2 in that class (Matt Wenning, Chuck Fought). Maybe they'll let me count 2 deadlifts?
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-02-2008, 05:35 PM	#163
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	4/02 DE Bench Speed bench: 185 for 8 sets of 3 Seated rear delt row: 3 plates + quarter each side, 3 sets of 10 Chest supported row: 3 plates + quarter, 3 sets of 6 Started with some moderate hammer curls and reverse wrist curls to warm up. Speed sucked today, fealing beat to hell from yesterday's squats. This shouldn't happen to a pro
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-05-2008, 08:54 AM	#164
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	4/05 Bench Flat bench to opener 225 X 5 315 X 3 Added Inzer double denim 365 X 1 (No touch) 405 X 1 (touch) 455 X 1 (touch) Floor pin press lockouts: 405 X 5 455 X 5 505 X 5 555 x 3 Standing ab pulldown: 3 sets of 10 1 set of 8 Eight days out from meet, last real workout prior to then. I'll do some ab work and some other light work to keep things stretched out until middle of the week, then done. Unless something dramatically goes south between now and meet day, will likely be opening with 455. Today's 455 was somewhat slow likely due to not hitting groove, but I don't have much problem pressing this back up even when misgrooved.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-05-2008, 11:08 AM	#165
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,152 Photos: 4	Good luck in the meet.

04-06-2008, 12:51 PM	#167
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	Flights are posted. You're in the flight with the 1,000 lb squatters. Better you than me. http://ironhousezanesville.com/08%20...tries%20In.htm
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04-06-2008, 02:51 PM	#168
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	That's just great. I saw Wenning at BW3 the other day, was going to ask him to not double my squat. And somehow you don't even have Harrington either.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-07-2008, 06:25 AM	#169
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,546 Photos: 10	Had a meet at my gym this past Saturday. Purty cool. Best of luck to you!
	Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs. Soxmuscle Presents: Westside Training

04-07-2008, 12:27 PM	#170
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	Thanks sox. 4/07 Misc Light stuff Pullthrus: 60 lb for 4 sets of 10 Hip Abductor/Adductor 4 sets of 15, light weight (each machine) Ab Pulldowns 5 sets of 12, heavy 45 degree back raise BW for 2 sets of 10 Except for the regular ab work, kept the weight very light today with weight that would typically what would be a 2nd warm-up set, mainly to keep stretched out and keep the blood flowing. Will hit a few upper exercises either tomorrow or Wed and then be done until the meet.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-07-2008, 04:25 PM	#171
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	Dave, you were mentioned on powerliftingwatch.com: An updated lifter roster is posted for this weekend's Iron House Classic which will be held in Columbus, Ohio. The Iron House Classic traditionally attracts a number of the top lifters and this year is no exception. Included in the lineup is: Joe Dougherty, 181 Phil Harrington, 220 Nick Roman, 275 (junior who pulled 800 in October) Luke Edwards, 242 Dave Schwab, 275 Paul Childress, 308 Chuck Fought, 308 Matt Wenning, 308 Matt Smith, shw Mike Wolfe, shw
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04-07-2008, 06:19 PM	#172
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	Yeah right. You forgot the part about the kid half your age in your flight with the 800 lb pull.
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04-07-2008, 06:45 PM	#173
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	Not anymore. Looks like I've been moved to the second flight and you're in the first. They're doing this to keep the strong guys together and the pathetic lifters like us in a different group.
	Gear Whore Training Log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-07-2008, 06:53 PM	#174
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	So they have the old guys and the skinny kids in the same flight. You have a chance to look impressive now. I was demoted to amateur, so I don't get to lift with the big guys.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-07-2008, 07:02 PM	#175
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	It's for the loaders' benefit. When the second attempts start, they don't have to strip a lot of weight off the bar. So if Paul Childress is the last lifter in his flight with a 1150 lb opener, they don't have to strip 800 lbs off the bar for Joe Blow's second attempt. What they should do is have a weight cut off. Those opening with up to 500 lbs go in the first flight, 750 lb openers go in the second flight, 900 lb openers go in the third. Saves the loaders a lot of hassle.
	Gear Whore Training Log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-08-2008, 08:39 AM	#176
DLDave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 231	I thought they arranged the flights after you provided your openers at weigh in, for the very reasons that you stated.
	My log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html

04-08-2008, 03:06 PM	#177
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	They also have to keep the guys in the same weight class/division together so you know what attempts you need to pick to win.
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04-08-2008, 03:09 PM	#178
PeteTheGreek Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 460	This meet's getting too big now. 16-18 lifters in each flight. I bet he's still getting entries. There will be 20 lifters in each flight by meet day. Minimum 25 minutes rest between each attempt.
	Gear Whore Training Log: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...ining-log.html