KryptoAllez

I decided to start one here as well as I'm having my doubts about the other BB forum I belong to, plus it's just nice to hang out with those closer to my age and many of my online friends are here now as well. So here goes, starting it from today.

A little background first though. I started seriously bodybuilding in March of 2000. I trained for about a year and a half before I got serious with my diet. I became serious with my diet after meeting Dr. Pain on Abc. I owe 95% of what I know about diet & nutrition to him. I would certainly not have had the success I've had with my diet if it wasn't for his help. So I've been seriously dieting, writing my own diets with DP's help since August of 2001. I started out the beginning of August at 22% body fat. By about 2 weeks into the diet, I dropped down to 19% body fat and then had some photos taken. By Nov of 2001, I dropped down to 16.6% body fat and had more photos taken (amatuer of course). After that I had a few setbacks in my fat burning with the holidays and all and I feel as if I haven't made much progress since then despite my clean diet, but as DP would say, not clean as I am a protein bar junkie, lol. Not anymore though, as you will soon see!

That brings us up to today's entry, July 2, 2002.

Well, I finally got tired of writing my own diets and being stuck at the same body fat, which in itself, I'm not even sure what the heck I'm at! It's been VERY frustrating to say the least! All I know is that the amount of definition I have has looked the same for months (as far as I can tell). Back in March I had hubby measure me (with plastic calipers) and we came out with 15.8%, we remeasured at the end of May and got 19.8%! And I KNOW that can't be true since I had started fat burners since March, keeping the same strict diet, didn't experience any loss of definition, still got my 6 pack, added to the fact that 19.8% is about what I was last August! Now I KNOW I didn't just gain it all back while I've been dieting to lose (and still have my abs)! Anyway, then he measured me again about a week ago and got 17.7% so who the heck knows!! My body fat readings are all over the friggin' place! So I don't know what I am! Seems like I haven't made any real progress since my November photos. The bottom line is that I feel I've been stagnant in the fat burning department and it was time for a change. I've been at this since August of 2001 and I finally decided to just give someone else a crack at my diet.

So I am now following a diet made specifically for me by Beverly Nutrition. They've got me on a 2000 calorie diet with the goal to lose fat while retaining/gaining lean muscle.

I will post the diet I'm on in a sec. As far as my training goes, I am lifting 3-4 days a week, depending on how I split it up. I have 3 hour long intense speed skating practices twice per week, and I have added more cardio to get this darn fat burning going again. So I usually get in a total of 4-5 days of cardio (including speed skating practices) at a minimum of 20 min sessions. Besides skating for cardio, I use the elliptical trainer and the stationary bike.

As of June 28, 2002

female 5'5" 140 lbs, calipered at 17.7% body fat

Meal 1: 1 whole egg + 3 whites, 3 oz. lean beef or turkey, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2: 2 scoops Beverly Ultra Size, 2 tbsp heavy whipping cream or 1 tbsp flax oil and 12 oz. water OR 5 oz. chicken or turkey breast, 5 strawberries

Meal 3 (usually ends up being post workout): 5 oz. chicken, 4 oz. sweet potato or 1/2 c brown rice or 1 apple, 1 c green veggies or salad with 2 tbsp low cal dressing

Meal 4: Same as meal 2

Meal 5: 6 oz. lean beef, chicken, turkey, fish, or sirloin steak, 2 c green veggies, 2 tsp flax oil

Supplements: glutamine, 3 Beverly Mass aminos with each meal, 3 Beverly Liver tablets with each meal, 2 Beverly Antioxidants after training, and of course my multi-vitamin. I also take extra calcium/magnesium and fish oil tablets (which help my allergies). I also take extra potassium and B vitamins. Geesh, I do take a lot of stuff, huh, lol.

I will be following this until I stop seeing results. My first evaluation (body fat test) of how it is working will be right before I go to Nationals for speed skating so it will end up being a 3 week time frame. During the week I'm at Nationals I won't be able to follow the diet and will have to get back on it when I get back from Nationals. And as far as the skating goes, for those who may find it interesting reading about my competing in speed skating, I am going to create a separate journal for that.

Krypto's Aug & Nov 2001 BB Progress Photos

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

calalily1972

Hi KryptoAllez!

Good luck with your diet and speed skating! Lina just finished a 12 week program with Beverly. She may have some good pointers or advice with thier diets you might be interested in. She's a sweetheart!

lina

Hey Krupto

How are you? Coincidentally I was on abc last night and saw your pics there! You look great!!!! Supplement store owner, huh? Lucky gal! So everything at cost price and try all those fun samples? Jealous here!!! Looking forward to reading your journal! oops, I just noticed another journal of yours ... Is it ok to post here?

Mochy, actually did 7/8 weeks of Beverly. Had good results so far but interrupted by my upcoming vaca... Ah vel, c'est la vie but I'll continue when I get back! Thanks sweetie for the compliment!!!!! Made my day!!!

Dr. Pain

Looks Gr8 KYRPTO!


DP

KryptoAllez

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Thanks lina! Yeah, new supplement store owner, it's only been a little over a year now, supps are still expensive even from the distributors, we still end up with a good size bill by the end of the month, ack! But yeah, I do have a bad habit of trying everything new that we get in, sure doesn't help my protein bar addiction, lol!

You're fine to post here, the other journal is my speed skating journal. I just thought I'd simplify things a bit by keeping them separate since they are two separate sports/activities, feel free to post on either.

As far as the Beverly diet is going, I'm fine if I take some kind of thermo that kills my appetite. Today I didn't and I've been freaking starving all day long, it sucks!! I just knew it was going to come to this. I got as far as I could on just cleaning up my diet and not touching my calories but since I can't get any leaner, now I have to cut calories and add more cardio, drat! I was really hoping I could get as lean as I desire WITHOUT having to starve. It sucks, I'm hungry all the time, even after I just ate! How did you fare with the Beverly diet? Weren't you hungry/starving all the time? That being hungry all the time is the hardest part for me. I've never had to diet in my life, I've always eaten as much as I wanted whenever I wanted and have never had to go hungry for so long so this is new to me and let me tell ya, I'm hating it, bigtime! Any advice?

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

KryptoAllez

Thanks DP! Always nice knowing you're around to keep me in line so I don't do something crazy, like eating 8 meals a day! But darn, that was nice, eating every 2 hours. No wonder I'm starving so much on this Beverly diet, less calories, MUCH longer to go between meals, I'm hating this starving crap! AAAAAAHHHHH!!!! It sucks! If this doesn't get me cut, I'm convinced that NOTHING will! I'd better not be starving for nothing, that's all I gotta say. BPB is gonna be putting up with my grouchiness from lack of food pretty soon, it's starting to drive me crazy and it hasn't even been a week yet!

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

Dr. Pain

There is still one last option!


DP

KryptoAllez

Huh?

Yeah, like I said, I feel like this is about all I have left, is the calorie cutting til I'm starving all the time crap cause a clean diet with lifting and twice a week intense speed skating practices wasn't working to get me any leaner. This is my last option that I know of, less calories on a clean diet and more cardio. Even the fat burners seemed to only work on me for the first 2 weeks! I'll let ya know in about 3 weeks whether or not I made any progress when BPB takes my bf again. And if it is working, I just hope the week I spend at Nationals doesn't set me back too far!

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

Dr. Pain

There is one more option...we have talked about it before!

Ask BPB...he'll remember the sacrifices invovled!

DP

GardeningGrrl

Giggle....let me guess......going off the birth control pills?

Am I right, huh huh, am I? Do I get a prize if I'm right?

Dr. Pain

HC, you're damn GOOD! You're the prize!

I don't want to freak the ladies out....like I did with gum and sweetners....butt......and this is a BIG BUTT :P

Things that can stall/thwart fat loss!

1) HRT (Homone Replacement Therapy)
2) Birth Control
3) Thyroid Medication
4) Antidepressants
5) Other Prescription Medicines

and...........

6) Just plain being metabolically resistant to fat loss efforts.....usually because of years of yo-yo dieting....and the body acclimating too quickly to your efforts


THIS FYI ONLY....DO NOT, I REPEAT "DO NOT" ALTER YOUR B/C OR MEDICATION W/O CONSULTING YOUR HEALTH CARE PRACTIONER

Sorry Kyrpto to enbed this in your Journal....I know you know this already!!


DP

lina

What kinda thermo are you taking? Are you doing any of their supps besides the UltraSize like their liver pills, amino pills, etc.?

I wasn't hungry on the first phase of my diet which was lil' higher in cals, fat, and more carbs.. On my second phase I craved the carbs and always doubting whether I had enuf cals but also not too hungry, loved the carb up days... I didn't loose any weight, but did loose fat and gained some muscle. I have no advice for you, sorry, as I'm a novice to this. I learn by doing, and I haven't been doing this for very long...

DP, had already mentioned one point that popped into my head when you say you have a hard time loosing... thyroids... but every one uses that claim when they have a hard time loosing... another is, I heard you have to cycle your thermogenics for it to be effective, is that true DP?

Anyway, good luck! Yeah, it does suck if you are hungry, maybe you need to up your fats to keep the tummy full

KryptoAllez

Must be NICE! BPB isn't starving on his diet either! Dang! Anyway, I have no carb up's in my diet, probably because they don't have my carbs low enough to warrant that. I think I'm just plain hungry all the time, starving other times cause my body WANTS to be bigger, or at least carry more body fat than it is. That is something my dad said whenever I told him I'm so hungry all the time. It makes total sense. I've always heard that everybody has a genetic setpoint of body weight and composition and I have a feeling I'm fighting mine, and especially with being on the b/c pills. I know that doesn't help. It's not my thyroid as I've had that checked before, not too long ago. It just seems that since I've been doing this that others have an easier time getting leaner. Only thing I can figure is that it is my genetics (with the setpoint thing) and the b/c pills, probably a combination of both. I will give this diet plenty of time to work and see where it gets me. If it doesn't do much even though I'm starving half the time, then I will have to attribute it to the b/c pills and in that case probably just be satisfied with where I'm at as far as leanness goes. Cause remembering the days before b/c pills, I just don't wanna go back there again!

As far as Beverly supplements go, I take their Mass Aminos, Liver tablets, Antioxidant tablets, and of course the Ultra Size. As far as Thermo's go, I'm not taking any regularly right now but I've used Met-rx Thermicore and the old Syntrax Adipokinetix, also a Worldwide Thermo drink. And I never kept taking them, always took weekends off and one day off during the week cause I won't take anything with ephedrine in it when I have to speed skate, heart rate gets up enough as it is.

The hardest times for me on this diet are the times when I'm really starving which happens if I get woken up during the night, I wake up really hungry or after speed skating practices. After speed skating practices my appetite seems to go on overdrive and it's VERY hard to not eat cheat foods (carbs) or eat too much of something. One good point so far is that I don't seem to be experiencing any lack of energy at speed skating practices unless my body is just plain spent which I HAVE noticed I am taking longer to recover on these reduced calories. For this reason, the week before Nationals there will be no working out for me so my body can recover and I can get my full strength back in time to race my best.

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

lina

I take it that BPB stands for some dude over at abc.... whose name is it?

Another question is... Beverly tells you that this is a 2000 cal diet but do you actually plug it into Fitday to make sure? They always seem to be off with me by about 200 cals...even when I count the Liver and Amino pills in...

Hang in there Krypto!!!!!! Be strong!!!!

KryptoAllez

Yeah, that's a good point, I did actually try adding up the calories (including the Aminos and Liver) and came up with only 1711!! Now I realize that I could be off some cause it was kind of difficult to figure out how much is in a certain number of oz of steak and stuff like that but geesh, I didn't figure I should be off by THAT much! This is one reason why I didn't go to Beverly earlier for a diet cause I figured they'd have me friggin starving cause I've seen the diets other women close to my stats have been on. But I got so frustrated with not seeing anymore progress that I decided what the heck, I'll give Beverly a try.

BPB is my husband, he's on here and has posted. We're also on Abc altho he is known as Big Pappa B on Abc.

I'll have to check out that Fitday site, I hear about it all the time, lots of women from other boards use it too.

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

lina

Yeah, once you get the hang of Fitday it goes pretty easily, esp. if you eat the same thing every day like me, LOL! Also make sure the amounts of food you eat is ounces before cooking... It is impt to weigh all your foods on the scale.....It's a pain, but it does make a difference..... You can get one at Walmart, Target, etc. for cheap.

BPB

Here I am Lina

Must be HUGE!!...and cut

lina

Hey Big Papa Bear!!!

Ya on the East Coast too, huh?
Up early like me?

Need some coffee....

BPB

Up early??? I've bben up since noon. At worki right now and get off at 8am. I'm way past needing SOME coffee. 1 Pot down along with a fat burner for good measure

Must be HUGE!!...and cut

lina

Oh so the graveyard shift, eh while LMB is asleep? Little Mama Bear, hehehe ! Oh, yeah coffee and a fat burner, wtg!!! Good combo...

BPB

graveyard not too bad. Working by myself,watching movies and surfing the net while YOU pay me. Ah the Air Force..a great way of life

Must be HUGE!!...and cut

lina

Your another one of those, eh? Who else in the AF around here.... Albob I think, lots of military guys on here!!!LAM used to be don't remember which branch.

I guess we pay you so we can sleep good at night!

KryptoAllez

Hey, who said you two could have a conversation on MY journal? Hehehehe, j/k, go right ahead.

Thought this would be good to post in my journal in case others run into the same problem, this has been happening to me lately:

I'm having a problem with this Beverly diet I'm on. Don't get me wrong, I do like it as I think it is working, it's been about a week since I've been on it and I've lost 2 lbs, some muscle I'm sure or at least my strength has already gone down. However, I have been getting low blood sugar symptoms on it. I get so hungry between meals that it gives me headaches, hot flashes, and several times I get to feeling nauseous, weak and shakey, and sometimes feel like I'll pass out if I push it too much. The symptoms are worse when I take a fat burner in an effort to curb my herendous appetite. And I feel like I didn't even eat anything after some of my meals. I try taking a fat burner and those low blood sugar symptoms are even worse! I felt like this earlier today about an hour after my second meal, was just doing abs and had to stop a few times for fear of throwing up or passing out. I had to forego my jump roping because of feeling like this. I felt this was really bad and knew that if I had something to eat, I wouldn't feel like this anymore, so I had a Met-Rx RTD40 while at the gym (not on my Beverly diet) and now I feel fine. So question is, what to do about this? It doesn't always happen but it seems to be happening more frequently the longer I'm on this diet. Based on these symptoms and my observations as I have a history of getting like this, I'm theorizing that my body produces too much insulin no matter what I eat and clears too much sugar out of my bloodstream causing low blood sugar and that would also explain my body's resistance to losing fat. My mom was diagnosed with hypoglycemia and I know that there is some diabetes in my family. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do? I'd really like to continue getting leaner and it seems the only way is to keep on this calorie reduction but I don't want to get like this all the time, feeling nauseous and like passing out doesn't appeal to me at all! Help!

I asked for DP's advice and he came to my aid once again, nice man that he is. And here is his response, thought this might help someone else:

So basically, since I cannot always get to bed earlier, I will continue to follow the Beverly diet with a slight variation. I will eat every 2.5 hours so if I end up having to add an extra meal, I will, and the extra meal will be one of the Beverly diet meals like chicken breast and strawberries or chicken breast and green veggies. Hopefully I can still get some good results from this diet. Will keep you posted!

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

lina

Good advice from DP and your plan sounds good!

I'll check on you when I get back and that's when your Nationals are right, around that time? So I'll be back in August and see how things are...

Take Care and yep, it's best to listen to your body....

KryptoAllez

Yep, we'll do. I never compromise my health.

Nationals is July 23-27th, I've been trying to clear my head, been feeling nervous and anxious already. And I keep having dreams that I'm late for my races! Ack!

I've been doubting myself as to whether or not I can "hang" with National caliper Standard Classic Ladies. My coach seems to think I can and he keeps telling me I need to clear my head and not worry about the others, just worry how I am skating and skate my best and whatever happens happens. He says if anything at least it will tell me where I am in comparison so I know. One thing's for sure, I will never stop trying to be better!

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

KryptoAllez

ONE WEEK UPDATE (on this current Beverly diet)

Fri night 27 June weighed in at 140 lbs
Sat morning 28 June weighed in at 139.5 lbs

Fri night 5 Jul weighed in at 138 lbs
Sat morning 6 Jul weighed in at 137.5 lbs

So I lost a total of 2 lbs so far. The lowered carb intake also has me holding less water. If I start eating a lot of carbs, I will normally hold 2-3 lbs of water weight so my morning weights would usually be less by at least 1-2 lbs.

As far as how it's going, I am ALWAYS hungry on this diet and if I don't get something to eat by the 3 hour mark, I'm ready to rip someone's head off. I am freaking STARVING by 3 hours later and I get very irritable, lose my patience real quick kind of thing. I also start getting hot flashes, my first symptom of low blood sugar so I must eat by the 3 hour mark on this diet. So even though the diet says I can only have 5 meals, you'd better believe if I'm awake too long (and it's beyond my control) I WILL be eating another meal! Now if this slows down the fat burning process then so be it cause I'm not gonna pass out from hunger!

Other than that, ~looks around to see if DP is listening cause I know what he is going to say~ either I'm losing muscle, or just the fact that I am on lower carbs, I do NOT have the strength I used to have! For chest, using dumbbells, I am not getting out as many reps at the same weight and even having to go down a weight cause I can't get enough reps out! And I KNOW it is NOT in my head cause I wasn't even thinking about it until I had to stop and wonder why the heck I couldn't push my normal weight the normal amount of reps!! This sucks! I absolutely HATE having to drop DOWN a weight from what I NORMALLY do! It's one huge ego crusher, I want to be strong too dammit! BPB keeps telling me to stop worrying about it, this is what happens when you cut and it's not like I'm trying to be a powerlifter or something and that I am strong even if I think I'm not. He tries to make me feel better, how sweet.

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

calalily1972

Hey Krypto!
Looks like your doing great. Hang in there girl! Whenever I start a serious cut of some sort I always seem to go down in weight but within a week or so I am back up to my normal weights. I don't know why that happens but I don't stress about it as long as I am lifting normal again within a week or so. Just hang in, you seem to be a strong individual with alot of willpower.

KryptoAllez

Yeah, ya know, I noticed that about myself too! Whenever I start something new, I seem to drop a few pounds the first week or two but then my weight goes right back up to 140 lbs! It even happened when I started taking a fat burner, the first two weeks the lbs just started dropping off but after 2 weeks I was back up to 140 and then never dropped any more again, even though I was still taking the fat burner! Beats me, I'm still trying to figure that one out. We'll see if it happens again on this Beverly diet. If it does, I'm convinced my body WANTS to be 140 lbs and that's all there is to it. That's fine with me as long as the fat keeps leaving!

Got any ideas on that one doc?

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).

calalily1972

LOL
Krypto - I was talking talking about your w8 lifting not your body w8. Sorry, didn't mean for the confusion.

KryptoAllez

Hehehehehehehehehe. Boy do I feel silly!

Bodybuilding isn't everything, it's just that being small, weak, and puny REALLY sucks!!

Speed Skater - Last Lap, Tight Pack, Absolutely, Positively, Most Definitely Without a Doubt, NO FEAR (not even a little bit).