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    Today is the day to get serious. This afternoon is Back and Biceps day using the following routine:

    Wide grip lat pulldown 3 X 10
    Close Grip lat pulldown 3 X 10
    Dumbell Row 3 X 8
    Hammer Curl 3 X 10
    EZ curl 3 X 8
    Isolation Curl 3 x 8

    For diet, I need to make some changes which I will also start today (thanks J'Bo)!

    Starting with:
    Meal #1
    4 eggwhites, 1 whole egg
    1 cup oatmeal

    Meal #2
    2 scoops protein w/ 10 oz water

    Meal #3
    Salad w/ Chicken breast -Restaurant serving

    Meal #4
    1 can Tuna & 1/2 Avocado

    Meal #5
    2 scoops protein w/ 10 oz water

    Meal #6
    1 Chicken breast and string beans sauteed in olive oil
    Last edited by joecamp4; 07-10-2002 at 12:12 PM.

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    Looks good, your on the right track. What about those essential fats though? You need more than an avacado. Try to get some flax seed oil or Udo's today. Dont forget to drink at least 5 liters of water (the mmost important ingrediant). Please edit your food and seperate into Meal one: Meal two: etc. plus add the serving sizes.

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    After refining the info received from my post in "Training", here is the routine I will follow religiously for 8 weeks. The rep structure will be 3 X 8-10:

    Monday:
    Flat Bench, Incline BB, Dumbell Flyes
    Rope Pulldowns, French Press, Dumbell Kickback

    Tuesday:
    Cardio 40 min run / Abs

    Wednesday:
    Lat pulldowns (wide grip, close grip)
    Dumbell Rows
    Cable Curls, Hammer Curls, EZ Curls

    Thursday:
    Rest

    Friday:
    Military Press, Front Raise, Side Raise, Bent-Over Rows, Shrugs
    Cardio 40 min run / Abs

    Saturday:
    Squats, Dead Lifts, Lying Leg Curl, Calf Raises

    Sunday:
    Rest
    Last edited by joecamp4; 07-11-2002 at 08:46 AM.
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    Damn...had a couple beers at lunch. Following it up with meal#4 above...tuna and avocado. I've got to get a handle on the beers.
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    Originally posted by joecamp4
    After refining the info received from my post in "Training", here is the routine I will follow religiously for 8 weeks. The rep structure will be 3 X 8-10:

    Monday:
    Flat Bench, Incline BB, Dumbell Flyes
    Rope Pulldowns, French Press, Dumbell Kickback

    Tuesday:
    Cardio 40 min run / Abs

    Wednesday:
    Lat pulldowns (wide grip, close grip)
    Dumbell Rows
    Hammer Curls, EZ Curls, Isolation

    Thursday:
    Cardio 40 min run / Abs

    Try moving this cardio day to Fridays workout after your shoulder weights

    Friday:
    Military Press, Front Raise, Side Raise, Shrugs, Bent-Over Rows
    Squats, Leg Extension, Lying Leg Curl, Calf Raises

    Do your bent over rows before your shrugs. Move your leg day to Saturdays and cut the cardio on sat. out. You should add deadlifts to your leg workouts because they target so many muscles at once. Take the leg extensions out as your quads will be worked enough with the squats. You can add the leg extensions in next routine, cause they are more for shaping rather than toning

    Saturday:
    Cardio 40 min run / Abs

    [B]Really consider cutting this cardio out, it may put you over the top. You dont want to over train.

    Sunday:
    Rest




    Otherwise this looks like a good plan for you, so make some adjustments and stick to this plan.

    You can edit/delete the last posting and so you dont have to re-post the routine once you make changes.
    Beers at lunch hey? Now i know why you werent making changes before, you naughty boy.

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    Beers at lunch hey? Now i know why you werent making changes before, you naughty boy. [/QUOTE]

    I know...backing off on the beers is going to be a tough one to overcome

    Anyways, I made the appropriate changes and will follow this routine through for 8 weeks.
    I had a great back/bi workout last night.

    I'm finding that it is difficult to get down enough calories. I know for a fact that I was not getting in enough, so yesterday I used fitday to track my diet and barely managed to get in 1700 calories with the following ratios:

    Protein 50%
    Carbs 15%
    Fats 35%

    Are these ratios alright? Am I getting enough calories?

    Thanks again for all the tips J'BO

    Joe
    Last edited by joecamp4; 07-11-2002 at 09:48 AM.
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    No you need way more carbs then that.
    Post what you ate in your journal.
    We can make some changes.

    BTW great changs to the routine, you will really like these workouts.

    Also if you want to quote a post, there is a little button on the far bottom right of every post. Just click the button and it will bring you to a new post with the quote in it.
    Last edited by J'Bo; 07-11-2002 at 09:40 AM.

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    Here is yesterdays diet, 07/10/02:

    Meal#1
    3 egg whites, 1 whole egg
    1 cup oatmeal

    Meal #2
    2 scoops protein, 10 oz water

    Meal #3
    1 can Tuna, 1/2 avocado
    2 beers

    Meal #4
    2 scoops protein, 10 oz water

    Meal #5
    Lean Meatloaf (appx 2 cups), sauteed carrots in olive oil

    Meal #6
    1 scoop protein, 1 tbls peanut butter, 10 oz water
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    07/11/02

    Meal #1
    1 cup cottage cheese, 1 banana, 1/2 cup yogurt, 1 cup oatmeal

    Meal #2
    2 Scoops Protein, 10 oz Water

    Meal #3
    1 can tuna, 1 tbsp mayo, 1/2 avocado

    Meal #4
    1.5 cups lean meatloaf

    Meal #5
    2 scoops protein, 1 tbsb PB, 1/2 cup almonds
    Last edited by joecamp4; 07-11-2002 at 10:08 PM.
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    Originally posted by joecamp4
    Here is yesterdays diet, 07/10/02:

    Meal#1
    3 egg whites, 1 whole egg
    1 cup oatmeal


    Meal #2
    2 scoops protein, 10 oz water

    Meal #3
    1 can Tuna, 1/2 avocado
    2 beers



    Meal #4
    2 scoops protein, 10 oz water

    Meal #5
    Lean Meatloaf (appx 2 cups), sauteed carrots in olive oil



    Meal #6
    1 scoop protein, 1 tbls peanut butter, 10 oz water
    1.You need more protein- add more egg whites. 2.Obviously the beer is a NO NO 3.How lean? Try to stick with greens. carrots have alot of sugar. Steer away from cooking with olive oil. when heated it turns to saturated fats. STick with Pam. 5.Add another scoop of protein here


    I am not an expert, but I thought I'd try and help you out as much as I can. You are doing ok Joe

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    Originally posted by joecamp4
    07/11/02

    Meal #1
    1 cup cottage cheese, 1 banana, 1/2 cup yogurt, 1 cup oatmeal

    Way too many carbs this meal! Cottage cheese and yogurt are not the best foods to eat (SUGAR) Stick with the egg whites

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    Originally posted by joecamp4
    Here is yesterdays diet, 07/10/02:

    Meal#1
    3 egg whites, 1 whole egg
    1 cup oatmeal

    Need more protein in this meal. Need 3 more egg whites and 1 more yolk

    Meal #2
    2 scoops protein, 10 oz water

    Need carbs here. Piece of fruit plus flax or udos oil or 4 strawberries plus 3 tablespoons of heavy cream in your shake

    Meal #3
    1 can Tuna, 1/2 avocado
    2 beers

    Once again you need carbs here. 3/4 cup of brown rice or a sweet potato

    Meal #4
    2 scoops protein, 10 oz water

    Same as meal 2 suggestions

    Meal #5
    Lean Meatloaf (appx 2 cups), sauteed carrots in olive oil

    Add a fat. Maybe 1 tablespoon of dressing on veggies. Use another veggy carrots have too much sugar

    Meal #6
    1 scoop protein, 1 tbls peanut butter, 10 oz water
    That is natural pb? Need 1.5 scoops of protein at least. Try chicken and mayo or tuna and flax or protein shake and flax or pb

    If you make these adjustments your calorie count will be good. Minue the beer of course. How many liters of water did you have?

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    Hey Joe, you have two extremely gorgeous ladies in here helping you out, how did you do it. C'mon tell me your secret.

    Good luck, and keep with it.

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    Originally posted by joecamp4
    07/11/02

    Meal #1
    1 cup cottage cheese, 1 banana, 1/2 cup yogurt, 1 cup oatmeal
    Hey Joe, whats going on? banana=carbs, oatmeal=carbs, yogurt=carbs. Where is your protein bud? No bananas (too much carbs for a cutting diet) Cottage cheese is ok (still need more protein) No yogurt (too much sugar, plus you already had cottage cheese).

    Skip all this dairy! You need better sources of food. 6 egg whites 2 yolks (for your fats) plus oatmeal.

    Clean up for the rest of the day.
    Chuck your yogurt and cottage cheese out the window buddy. Feed your bananas to the dog.

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    BTW Craig, he got us cause he listens to us.

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    Originally posted by J'Bo
    BTW Craig, he got us cause he listens to us.

    Well Joe they know what they are talking about. Nice to look at too.

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    Originally posted by Leslie2196



    Way too many carbs this meal! Cottage cheese and yogurt are not the best foods to eat (SUGAR) Stick with the egg whites
    Got it...I guess I'm getting burnt on egg whites . Sounds like I just need to get used to them...thanks for the info
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    Originally posted by J'Bo


    Hey Joe, whats going on? banana=carbs, oatmeal=carbs, yogurt=carbs. Where is your protein bud? No bananas (too much carbs for a cutting diet) Cottage cheese is ok (still need more protein) No yogurt (too much sugar, plus you already had cottage cheese).

    Skip all this dairy! You need better sources of food. 6 egg whites 2 yolks (for your fats) plus oatmeal.

    Clean up for the rest of the day.
    Chuck your yogurt and cottage cheese out the window buddy. Feed your bananas to the dog.
    This makes sense. No problem cleaning up for the rest of the day...I have Tuna/Avocado, beef/veggies and plenty of protein powder to get me through until dinner.

    This journal is the greatest...what a way to be held accountable and to get some great advice

    Thanks for taking the time to help me out
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    Yes it took me awhile to get used to the eggs, now i just eat my breakfast meal as a function meal rather than a tasty meal. The rest of the day is for tasty foods like brown rice, hahha.

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    Originally posted by craig777
    Hey Joe, you have two extremely gorgeous ladies in here helping you out, how did you do it. C'mon tell me your secret.

    Good luck, and keep with it.

    I KNOW ...Evidentally the secret is to NOT know what you're doing
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    Plus he is from sunny california, and i need a visa.
    LOL.

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    Originally posted by craig777



    Well Joe they know what they are talking about. Nice to look at too.
    NO KIDDING ...I have a new motivation for my workout and diet now because I know if I post it, I'll get kicked the real deal from some gorgeous ladies...

    Joe
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    Per fitday, my daily intake for the 11th is as follows:

    Calories 2157
    Protein 40%
    Fat 40%
    Carbs 20%

    See foods consumed in above post...I know, meal#1 could have been better
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    Originally posted by joecamp4
    07/11/02

    Meal #1
    1 cup cottage cheese, 1 banana, 1/2 cup yogurt, 1 cup oatmeal

    You know for tommorrow what you should do here, right?

    Meal #2
    2 Scoops Protein, 10 oz Water

    Please add some fat in and fast. You also need a fruit here: peach, blueberries, strawberries, or an apple

    Meal #3
    1 can tuna, 1 tbsp mayo, 1/2 avocado

    You know that you need carbs so why arent there any in here?

    Meal #4
    1.5 cups lean meatloaf

    Repeat on the fat

    Meal #5
    2 scoops protein, 1 tbsb PB, 1/2 cup almonds
    Use 2 Tablespoons of pb instead.

    Carbs and fat are not the enemy here, its sugar. We are trying to use slow burning carbs and fat to control your insulin. If you arent consuming fat and carbs your diet wont work. Please add the fat and carbs tommorrow.

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    Starting the day off right today...5 egg whites, 2 yolks, 1/2 cup oatmeal.

    Before lunch, I will go to the store to pick up some flax seed oil, sweet potatos for my carbs, and a jar of nat PB to keep at my desk.

    Thanks again
    Last edited by joecamp4; 07-12-2002 at 08:52 AM.
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    You are doing great. Keep it up, looks good.

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    Just got back from the store with additions to what I brought to work for today:

    Flaxseed oil
    2 apples
    1 sweet potato
    heavy cream
    Nat PB

    Slowly getting this diet thing down

    Working Shoulders this afternoon

    Feeling good about everything...
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    Here is today's menu:

    MEAL #1
    5 EGG WHITES
    2 WHOLE EGGS
    1/2 CUP OATMEAL

    MEAL #2
    2 SCOOPS PROTEIN
    1 TBSP FLAXSEED OIL
    APPLE

    MEAL #3
    1 CAN TUNA, 1 TBSP MAYO
    SWEET POTATO

    MEAL #4
    2 SCOOPS PROTEIN
    1 TBSP FLAXSEED OIL
    APPLE

    MEAL #5
    MEAT
    VEGGIES
    1 TBSP FLAXSEED OIL

    MEAL #6
    2 SCOOPS PROTEIN
    1 TBSP FLAXSEED OIL

    P.S. Sorry about the all caps above...I cut /pasted it from a spreadsheet
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    Hey Joe! What are your stat. Just curious cuz you may need more protein than what your have.

    BTW - I would look into using another fat source as well as the Flax. Flax is pretty nasty and you may not want that much of it in your diet. Just a suggestion.

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    mochy,
    I've been lifting for awhile, bouncing between routines, with no gains. I finally settled on a routine that I will stick with for 8 weeks with the help of J'Bo...you can see the routine above.

    Stats:
    5'7"
    184lbs
    34"waist

    Goals - Lose fat (31 waist would be nice) and build mass

    As far as fats go, I also have Natural PB and Heavy cream to incorporate if the Flax gets nasty.

    I've been averaging about 180-200 grams of protein
    I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
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