Balin's PSMF Log

Balin · 03-31-2009, 12:29 PM

I wanted to start a log to ensure greater accountability to the diet. I plan on starting on Wednesday April 1st. I guess the joke is on me

My Stats:

Male 42 yrs of age
Height 5'5" ( on my good days

)
Weight 192
Bf - 22% category 2 dieter
LBM 150

I will record my starting weight again on Wed.

I have picked up most of the essential groceries and have made a sample meal plan that looks like this.

Meal 1

2 ON Casein
1 Tsp Fish Oil
1 Tbs Psyllium Husks
2 Black coffee

P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5

Meal 2

1 Can of Tuna
100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
1 c broccoli

P 50.6g C 9.8g F 3.1g Cals 269.5

Meal 3

100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
3 oz Chicken Breast
3 c Mixed Greens
1 Tsp Fish Oil

P 48.7g C 6.8 F 8.3g Cals 296.7

Meal 4

5.5 oz Chicken Breast
½ Tsp fish oil
1/2 c broccoli

P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7

Daily Total: P 194.6g C 26.5g F 25g Cals 1109.4

Burner02 · 03-31-2009, 01:01 PM

good luck on your goals!
I'm no nutrition expert, but your cals seem low...

**Built** · 03-31-2009, 01:16 PM

They look fine to me.

Good luck!

**Built** · 03-31-2009, 01:24 PM

Your five-hour, once a week refeed will have between 225g and 450g carb, from what I see. That sound right by you?

Balin · 03-31-2009, 01:35 PM

Thats what I was planning for refeeds. I am going to schedule it for Sunday I think. I might start on the low end and see how I respond to it at first. I am pretty IR.

**Built** · 03-31-2009, 05:35 PM

Good plan. You'll find you'll be able to ramp it up as you lean out.

There are a few tricks to helping this work - one is to load creatine that day. Another is vinegar shots - I alternate between the two when I carb up - carb and shot of vinegar - carb and teaspoon of creatine - until I've consumed 20g of creatine.

Also, remain moderately active - it translocates GLUT4 and this mediates reglycogenation. Nothing too strenuous - housework is just about perfect. Plus you're usually home anyway, eating...

Balin · 03-31-2009, 06:08 PM

Well I was thinking of slamming 100g of carbs then waiting an hour then hitting the gym. Work out for a hour then have about another 100g of carbs with some protein.

At about 4 hours into the refeed then top up with 50-100g of carbs.

I am thinking of sticking to Bananas, Oats and Sweet Potato for the carb sources too. No Doughnuts or Pizza

I am a creatine non responder but I may give it a shot.

By vinegar do you mean, the white vinegar or Apple Cider Vinegar?

**Built** · 03-31-2009, 06:53 PM

Any kind of vinegar. Acetic acid enhances glucose transport.

I recommend white flour, white rice and dextrose for carbups.

The creatine also enhances glucose uptake - that's why I recommend it.

Balin · 03-31-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Any kind of vinegar. Acetic acid enhances glucose transport.

I recommend white flour, white rice and dextrose for carbups.

The creatine also enhances glucose uptake - that's why I recommend it.

Ah, so this is what you meant by trick... tools to help the partitioning. It took a while for the light bulb to go off

.

I guess I am just being carbophobic

Balin · 04-01-2009, 09:12 AM

Starting Day Stats

Morning weight - 194 lbs.

I went to the gym upon waking and had a Tanita Body Comp done. I know there is a wide variance with this machine but I just wanted to ball park my BF.

They had me at 20.8% BF so I feel better using the Category 2 calculations.

I had breakfast and its my first time using ON Casein. Man is it thick.

Balin · 04-01-2009, 08:54 PM

Day 1

I made it through my first day a with a bit of an EC buzz in the morning and a bit of a head ache in the evening

Supps - 1/2 dose EC x 3, 1g Potassium, 420mg Magnesium, thrice daily Multi, MSM and Glucosamine

Meal 1 10 am

2 ON Casein
1 Tsp Fish Oil
1 Tbs Psyllium Husks
2 Black coffee

P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5

Meal 2 2 pm

1 Can of Tuna
100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
1/2 c broccoli

P 48.3g C 5.9g F 2.8g Cals 242

Meal 3 6:30 pm - Post workout

100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
3 oz Chicken Breast
2 c Mixed Greens
1 Tsp Fish Oil

P 47.8g C 5.2 F 8.3g Cals 285.8

Meal 4 10 pm

5.5 oz Chicken Breast
½ Tsp fish oil
1/2 c broccoli

P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7

Daily Total: P 191.4g C 21g F 24.6g Cals 1071 Fiber 19.2g

Upper Body Workout

10 min elliptical warm up

BB Bench Press 3 sets 8, 8, 5
Neutral Grip Pull ups 3 sets 8, 8, 7
DB Lateral Raises 2 sets 8, 8
Tricep Pushdowns 2 sets 10, 10
BB Curl 2 sets 10, 10

**Built** · 04-01-2009, 09:47 PM

That's way too much warmup. Just do a few progressively heavy triples before your work sets, then keep the reps lower than this. I do 3x5s on PSMF, and no cardio at all to warm up. You don't have anything to spare.

Why upper body only? This should be upper and lower.

Balin · 04-01-2009, 10:07 PM

I am doing the 3 a week work outs. Its a variation thats in the book.

Week 1
Upper rest Lower rest Upper rest rest

Week 2
Lower rest Upper rest Lower rest rest

But yes the cardio left me a bit tanked so I will take your advice with the triples to warm up.

I'll go heavier and shoot for 5s next work out.

**Built** · 04-01-2009, 10:12 PM

Oh, okay, gotcha.

The long warmup and the rep range threw me.

Carry on...

Balin · 04-01-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Oh, okay, gotcha.

The long warmup and the rep range threw me.

Carry on...

np

, thanks for keeping me in check

danzik17 · 04-01-2009, 10:42 PM

Just an FYI - supplementing with calcium has also been shown to moderately increase fat burning. Nothing to write home about but hey, every little bit helps right?

Balin · 04-01-2009, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danzik17

Just an FYI - supplementing with calcium has also been shown to moderately increase fat burning. Nothing to write home about but hey, every little bit helps right?

Thanks for the tip, I have some in the cupboard

katt · 04-02-2009, 06:40 AM

I'll have to follow along this thread

I did the PSMF a few weeks back and it worked wonders for me.. I'm still taking all the supps now, even though I'm on a modified PSMF right now.

Good luck!

Balin · 04-02-2009, 06:57 AM

Thanks Katt!! The more eyes on this thread keeps me honest

Balin · 04-02-2009, 06:28 PM

Day 2

Same food and schedule as yesterday. But the head ache is gone and I think I have dumped a ton of water. I am feeling pretty flat under this fat, lol!!

Meal 1 10 am

2 ON Casein
1 Tsp Fish Oil
1 Tbs Psyllium Husks
2 Black coffee

P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5

Meal 2 2 pm

1 Can of Tuna
100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
1/2 c broccoli

P 48.3g C 5.9g F 2.8g Cals 242

Meal 3 6:30 pm - Post workout

100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
3 oz Chicken Breast
2 c Mixed Greens
1 Tsp Fish Oil

P 47.8g C 5.2 F 8.3g Cals 285.8

Meal 4 10 pm

5.5 oz Chicken Breast
½ Tsp fish oil
1/2 c broccoli

P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7

Daily Total: P 191.4g C 21g F 24.6g Cals 1071 Fiber 19.2g

sara · 04-02-2009, 06:53 PM

I'll be following along

You never know maybe one day I'll try a similar plan

Balin · 04-02-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sara

I'll be following along

You never know maybe one day I'll try a similar plan

Hey Sara, thanks for popping in

I haven't talked to you in ages, it looks like things are going well in your journal

Balin · 04-03-2009, 06:00 PM

Day 3

Same Meals

I am up to 3 full doses of EC now at 8am, noon and 4-5 pm. Even though I am at full doses I was dragging my ass at around 3pm today and felt like I could nap

Meal 1 8 am

2 ON Casein
1 Tsp Fish Oil
1 Tbs Psyllium Husks
2 Black coffee

P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5

Meal 2 1 pm Post workout

1 Can of Tuna
100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
1/2 c broccoli

P 48.3g C 5.9g F 2.8g Cals 242

Meal 3 6:30 pm

100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese
3 oz Chicken Breast
2 c Mixed Greens
1 Tsp Fish Oil

P 47.8g C 5.2 F 8.3g Cals 285.8

Meal 4 10 pm

5.5 oz Chicken Breast
½ Tsp fish oil
1/2 c broccoli

P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7

Daily Total: P 191.4g C 21g F 24.6g Cals 1071 Fiber 19.2g

Lower Body

Squats triples for warmup, 3x6
SLDL - 3x8, weight up from last week
Standing Calf Raises 3x10
Back extensions - 2x8
Weighted Crunches - 3x10

Balin · 04-04-2009, 01:05 PM

I have never done a refeed before so I am planning ahead for tomorrow. My range is 225g - 450g of carbs. I am thinking of starting at the low end to see how I respond and tweak up for the following refeeds.

An hour before workout:

1 ON Whey
1.25 c white rice
2 Tbs Salsa
6 oz Banana
4 oz Sweet Potato
1 TBS Olive Oil
1 Tsp Fish Oil

P 34.05 C 137.9 F 15.8 Cals 830

Then because I am not creative I would have the same after my work out

This would put my whole day intake to

P 211.7 C 291.6 F 45.7 Cals 2424.5

Does this look ok?

**Built** · 04-04-2009, 03:29 PM

I'd do this up like UD2.0 - an hour before the workout, eat a few pieces of fruit and a whey shake or some cottage cheese.

Do a tension workout, then start the refeed.

Balin · 04-05-2009, 09:36 AM

Day 4

Meals the same as the previous days. Once I use up all the chicken breasts I cooked I will change some stuff up.

Day 5 - Refeed Day

I weighed myself this morning. I am down 5 lbs from 194 to 189. I am just curious on how much I will my weight will increase from the refeed today.

I prefer only weighing myself weekly so I will resume that schedule after I see what a refeed does to me.

**IainDaniel** · 04-05-2009, 10:08 AM

How has the mood been? pretty irritable?

Balin · 04-05-2009, 10:19 AM

Good question, so I went to ask my kids,

I am not crustier than usual, but I am less patient. I take the EC at around 8am, noon and around 5pm. But for the last 2-3 days by 3-4pm I am dragging for energy levels but they bounce back after the EC and my 6pm meal.

I am just sort of antsy. I couldn't sit through a 2 hour movie on TV last night

**IainDaniel** · 04-05-2009, 10:42 AM

I don't use EC any more, I become an asshole who will snap on the stupidest shit.

Let alone being on very low cals.... equal not a very happy person

**Built** · 04-05-2009, 10:49 AM

I weigh daily lol - I find the fluctuations entertaining!

What did you end up eating for the carbup? And how did you feel while carbing up by the way?

03-31-2009, 12:29 PM	#1
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Balin's PSMF Log I wanted to start a log to ensure greater accountability to the diet. I plan on starting on Wednesday April 1st. I guess the joke is on me My Stats: Male 42 yrs of age Height 5'5" ( on my good days ) Weight 192 Bf - 22% category 2 dieter LBM 150 I will record my starting weight again on Wed. I have picked up most of the essential groceries and have made a sample meal plan that looks like this. Meal 1 2 ON Casein 1 Tsp Fish Oil 1 Tbs Psyllium Husks 2 Black coffee P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5 Meal 2 1 Can of Tuna 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 1 c broccoli P 50.6g C 9.8g F 3.1g Cals 269.5 Meal 3 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 3 oz Chicken Breast 3 c Mixed Greens 1 Tsp Fish Oil P 48.7g C 6.8 F 8.3g Cals 296.7 Meal 4 5.5 oz Chicken Breast ½ Tsp fish oil 1/2 c broccoli P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7 Daily Total: P 194.6g C 26.5g F 25g Cals 1109.4 Regards, Balin.

03-31-2009, 01:01 PM	#2
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,587	good luck on your goals! I'm no nutrition expert, but your cals seem low... Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

03-31-2009, 01:16 PM	#3
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	They look fine to me. Good luck! Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

03-31-2009, 01:24 PM	#4
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	Your five-hour, once a week refeed will have between 225g and 450g carb, from what I see. That sound right by you? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

03-31-2009, 01:35 PM	#5
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Thats what I was planning for refeeds. I am going to schedule it for Sunday I think. I might start on the low end and see how I respond to it at first. I am pretty IR. Regards, Balin.

03-31-2009, 05:35 PM	#6
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	Good plan. You'll find you'll be able to ramp it up as you lean out. There are a few tricks to helping this work - one is to load creatine that day. Another is vinegar shots - I alternate between the two when I carb up - carb and shot of vinegar - carb and teaspoon of creatine - until I've consumed 20g of creatine. Also, remain moderately active - it translocates GLUT4 and this mediates reglycogenation. Nothing too strenuous - housework is just about perfect. Plus you're usually home anyway, eating... Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

03-31-2009, 06:08 PM	#7
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Well I was thinking of slamming 100g of carbs then waiting an hour then hitting the gym. Work out for a hour then have about another 100g of carbs with some protein. At about 4 hours into the refeed then top up with 50-100g of carbs. I am thinking of sticking to Bananas, Oats and Sweet Potato for the carb sources too. No Doughnuts or Pizza I am a creatine non responder but I may give it a shot. By vinegar do you mean, the white vinegar or Apple Cider Vinegar? Regards, Balin.

03-31-2009, 06:53 PM	#8
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	Any kind of vinegar. Acetic acid enhances glucose transport. I recommend white flour, white rice and dextrose for carbups. The creatine also enhances glucose uptake - that's why I recommend it. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

04-01-2009, 09:12 AM	#10
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Starting Day Stats Morning weight - 194 lbs. I went to the gym upon waking and had a Tanita Body Comp done. I know there is a wide variance with this machine but I just wanted to ball park my BF. They had me at 20.8% BF so I feel better using the Category 2 calculations. I had breakfast and its my first time using ON Casein. Man is it thick. Regards, Balin.

04-01-2009, 08:54 PM	#11
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Day 1 I made it through my first day a with a bit of an EC buzz in the morning and a bit of a head ache in the evening Supps - 1/2 dose EC x 3, 1g Potassium, 420mg Magnesium, thrice daily Multi, MSM and Glucosamine Meal 1 10 am 2 ON Casein 1 Tsp Fish Oil 1 Tbs Psyllium Husks 2 Black coffee P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5 Meal 2 2 pm 1 Can of Tuna 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 1/2 c broccoli P 48.3g C 5.9g F 2.8g Cals 242 Meal 3 6:30 pm - Post workout 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 3 oz Chicken Breast 2 c Mixed Greens 1 Tsp Fish Oil P 47.8g C 5.2 F 8.3g Cals 285.8 Meal 4 10 pm 5.5 oz Chicken Breast ½ Tsp fish oil 1/2 c broccoli P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7 Daily Total: P 191.4g C 21g F 24.6g Cals 1071 Fiber 19.2g Upper Body Workout 10 min elliptical warm up BB Bench Press 3 sets 8, 8, 5 Neutral Grip Pull ups 3 sets 8, 8, 7 DB Lateral Raises 2 sets 8, 8 Tricep Pushdowns 2 sets 10, 10 BB Curl 2 sets 10, 10 Regards, Balin.

04-01-2009, 09:47 PM	#12
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	That's way too much warmup. Just do a few progressively heavy triples before your work sets, then keep the reps lower than this. I do 3x5s on PSMF, and no cardio at all to warm up. You don't have anything to spare. Why upper body only? This should be upper and lower. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

04-01-2009, 10:07 PM	#13
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	I am doing the 3 a week work outs. Its a variation thats in the book. Week 1 Upper rest Lower rest Upper rest rest Week 2 Lower rest Upper rest Lower rest rest But yes the cardio left me a bit tanked so I will take your advice with the triples to warm up. I'll go heavier and shoot for 5s next work out. Regards, Balin.

04-01-2009, 10:12 PM	#14
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	Oh, okay, gotcha. The long warmup and the rep range threw me. Carry on... Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

04-01-2009, 10:42 PM	#16
danzik17 Gender: MALE Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3,042	Just an FYI - supplementing with calcium has also been shown to moderately increase fat burning. Nothing to write home about but hey, every little bit helps right? Ron Paul 2012 Journal: danzik17's Log - 4-6 Week Strength/Bulk Journal: Sub 10% by April <old>

04-02-2009, 06:40 AM	#18
katt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,575 Photos: 37	I'll have to follow along this thread I did the PSMF a few weeks back and it worked wonders for me.. I'm still taking all the supps now, even though I'm on a modified PSMF right now. Good luck!

04-02-2009, 06:57 AM	#19
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Thanks Katt!! The more eyes on this thread keeps me honest Regards, Balin.

04-02-2009, 06:28 PM	#20
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Day 2 Same food and schedule as yesterday. But the head ache is gone and I think I have dumped a ton of water. I am feeling pretty flat under this fat, lol!! Meal 1 10 am 2 ON Casein 1 Tsp Fish Oil 1 Tbs Psyllium Husks 2 Black coffee P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5 Meal 2 2 pm 1 Can of Tuna 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 1/2 c broccoli P 48.3g C 5.9g F 2.8g Cals 242 Meal 3 6:30 pm - Post workout 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 3 oz Chicken Breast 2 c Mixed Greens 1 Tsp Fish Oil P 47.8g C 5.2 F 8.3g Cals 285.8 Meal 4 10 pm 5.5 oz Chicken Breast ½ Tsp fish oil 1/2 c broccoli P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7 Daily Total: P 191.4g C 21g F 24.6g Cals 1071 Fiber 19.2g Regards, Balin.

04-02-2009, 06:53 PM	#21
sara INK NOT MINK Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,997 Photos: 5	I'll be following along You never know maybe one day I'll try a similar plan

04-03-2009, 06:00 PM	#23
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Day 3 Same Meals I am up to 3 full doses of EC now at 8am, noon and 4-5 pm. Even though I am at full doses I was dragging my ass at around 3pm today and felt like I could nap Meal 1 8 am 2 ON Casein 1 Tsp Fish Oil 1 Tbs Psyllium Husks 2 Black coffee P 46g C 6g F 5.5g Cals 257.5 Meal 2 1 pm Post workout 1 Can of Tuna 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 1/2 c broccoli P 48.3g C 5.9g F 2.8g Cals 242 Meal 3 6:30 pm 100g Pressed Dry Cottage Cheese 3 oz Chicken Breast 2 c Mixed Greens 1 Tsp Fish Oil P 47.8g C 5.2 F 8.3g Cals 285.8 Meal 4 10 pm 5.5 oz Chicken Breast ½ Tsp fish oil 1/2 c broccoli P 49.3 C 3.9 F 8.1 Cals 285.7 Daily Total: P 191.4g C 21g F 24.6g Cals 1071 Fiber 19.2g Lower Body Squats triples for warmup, 3x6 SLDL - 3x8, weight up from last week Standing Calf Raises 3x10 Back extensions - 2x8 Weighted Crunches - 3x10 Regards, Balin.

04-04-2009, 01:05 PM	#24
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	I have never done a refeed before so I am planning ahead for tomorrow. My range is 225g - 450g of carbs. I am thinking of starting at the low end to see how I respond and tweak up for the following refeeds. An hour before workout: 1 ON Whey 1.25 c white rice 2 Tbs Salsa 6 oz Banana 4 oz Sweet Potato 1 TBS Olive Oil 1 Tsp Fish Oil P 34.05 C 137.9 F 15.8 Cals 830 Then because I am not creative I would have the same after my work out This would put my whole day intake to P 211.7 C 291.6 F 45.7 Cals 2424.5 Does this look ok? Regards, Balin.

04-04-2009, 03:29 PM	#25
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	I'd do this up like UD2.0 - an hour before the workout, eat a few pieces of fruit and a whey shake or some cottage cheese. Do a tension workout, then start the refeed. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

04-05-2009, 09:36 AM	#26
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Day 4 Meals the same as the previous days. Once I use up all the chicken breasts I cooked I will change some stuff up. Day 5 - Refeed Day I weighed myself this morning. I am down 5 lbs from 194 to 189. I am just curious on how much I will my weight will increase from the refeed today. I prefer only weighing myself weekly so I will resume that schedule after I see what a refeed does to me. Regards, Balin.

04-05-2009, 10:08 AM	#27
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,524	How has the mood been? pretty irritable? Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

04-05-2009, 10:19 AM	#28
Balin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 165	Good question, so I went to ask my kids, I am not crustier than usual, but I am less patient. I take the EC at around 8am, noon and around 5pm. But for the last 2-3 days by 3-4pm I am dragging for energy levels but they bounce back after the EC and my 6pm meal. I am just sort of antsy. I couldn't sit through a 2 hour movie on TV last night Regards, Balin.

04-05-2009, 10:42 AM	#29
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,524	I don't use EC any more, I become an asshole who will snap on the stupidest shit. Let alone being on very low cals.... equal not a very happy person Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

04-05-2009, 10:49 AM	#30
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,064	I weigh daily lol - I find the fluctuations entertaining! What did you end up eating for the carbup? And how did you feel while carbing up by the way? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

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